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OnePlus one or Samsung Galaxy S5 or another phone?

Hello,
I want to buy a new phone for my self,the thing are importent to me is : camera and powerfull device (games,apps,all will run smooth and without any problems in the future),the last thing is a good quality,i mean:the phone i used so far was an iphone 5 which is a good quality phone made from Metalic thingy,oh and the last thing is the battery,i need a good battery also.
*if isn"t the right fourm please replace it*

Do some research and make the decision for yourself. These kinds of threads are pointless, all you're going to get is a bunch of conflicting opinions and then you'll be left to have the decision for yourself anyway.
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@ozal5 timmaaa is right!Read,read,read!And then make your decision!

ozal5 said:
Hello,
I want to buy a new phone for my self,the thing are importent to me is : camera and powerfull device (games,apps,all will run smooth and without any problems in the future),the last thing is a good quality,i mean:the phone i used so far was an iphone 5 which is a good quality phone made from Metalic thingy,oh and the last thing is the battery,i need a good battery also.
*if isn"t the right fourm please replace it*
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From reading reviews and feedback from users it would seem that the Oneplus One would meet your needs. I previously had the S4, moved to the HTC One M8 last month and have been considering the OPO. The M8 is a great phone with arguably the best design/build quality out there at the moment. Things which tempt me are the price, great value for money, the 64GB storage space. My M8 is 16GB which isnt great when you only have access to around 9GB, I have an sd card but you cant install apps directly to it. The fact it runs stock/custom stock android and is so easy to root/unlock/flash etc. The extra RAM and bigger battery are also advantages.
Check the below threads for further relevant discussions and have a search for anything more specific:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/buy-oneplus-one-t2912073
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/to-t2905794
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/buy-oneplus-one-t2912073

Thanks i'll check this out.
But the One is powerfull more then G3 or S5?

ozal5 said:
Thanks i'll check this out.
But the One is powerfull more then G3 or S5?
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In terms of processors they all run the Snapdragon 801 with the Adreno 330 GPU, so on paper are evenly matched, with the One also have 3GB of RAM along with the G3 (depending on model) whereas the S5 has 2GB. In the real life scenario you could say that the One has more resources to play with as its running a much leaner version of android (ie not skinned/minus bloat). The power of each device would probably be based on your own usage and expectations of 'power'. Theres plenty of videos on youtube showing side by side comparisons/benchmarks etc that are also worth a look.

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/OnePlus-One,Samsung-Galaxy-S5,LG-G3/phones/8603,8202,8347
All run SD801, CPU wise not an issue. OPO has 3GB ram vs 2GB on the others (G3 depending what model you get) OPO & S5 run 1080p screens with the G3 housing a 2K screen etc etc. They are all evenly matched, name your price choose your device.

After using OPO for 2 months, the only 2 phones I see as it's replacement now are:
1) Samsung Galaxy Note 4. Better processor, better screen, better camera. Almost the same size. Forget about Galaxy S5 But Touchwiz.... Yuk! Hate it.
2) Sony Xperia Z3. Best camera on Android (only iPhone 6 camera is better), very good battery life. And good user inteface, better than Touchwiz.

So far i can see clearly that the OPO is better,is had the same proccesor and better battery it's look like i'll choose the OPO,because if the OPO better then the S5 isn't reason to pay more (only the IPS67 is a good reason but not enough).
Thanks alot ,
i asked in another fourm im my country and people told me to buy S5 but i trust this fourm more.

gsmyth said:
From reading reviews and feedback from users it would seem that the Oneplus One would meet your needs. I previously had the S4, moved to the HTC One M8 last month and have been considering the OPO. The M8 is a great phone with arguably the best design/build quality out there at the moment. Things which tempt me are the price, great value for money, the 64GB storage space. My M8 is 16GB which isnt great when you only have access to around 9GB, I have an sd card but you cant install apps directly to it. The fact it runs stock/custom stock android and is so easy to root/unlock/flash etc. The extra RAM and bigger battery are also advantages.
Check the below threads for further relevant discussions and have a search for anything more specific:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/buy-oneplus-one-t2912073
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/to-t2905794
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/buy-oneplus-one-t2912073
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The build quality on the M8 isn't that good, speaker grills loose and not aligned, volume button loose, htc letters falling off and it marks really easy although mine was unmarked but all my phones are the same.
Ozonep said:
After using OPO for 2 months, the only 2 phones I see as it's replacement now are:
1) Samsung Galaxy Note 4. Better processor, better screen, better camera. Almost the same size. Forget about Galaxy S5 But Touchwiz.... Yuk! Hate it.
2) Sony Xperia Z3. Best camera on Android (only iPhone 6 camera is better), very good battery life. And good user inteface, better than Touchwiz.
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Iphone 6 camera better than Xperia Z2/3 lol

GTCC said:
Iphone 6 camera better than Xperia Z2/3 lol
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http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...peria-Z3-LG-G3-Galaxy-S5-Galaxy-Note-3_id3822
You have something to say? I haven't read ANY review where Xperia Z3 camera was concluded to be better than iPhone's camera. Or you're just Apple hater?

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http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...peria-Z3-LG-G3-Galaxy-S5-Galaxy-Note-3_id3822
You have something to say? I haven't read ANY review where Xperia Z3 camera was concluded to be better than iPhone's camera. Or you're just Apple hater?
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Funny, you say that the Z3 is the best android phone camera and then you link a video that shows that it's anything but the best android camera, so which is it?
The reason for my post quoting you was because you said that the iPhone 6 camera was better than the Z3 camera but that is like saying that a Mercedes F1 car is better than a McLaren F1 car, yes it is but it is not like it had a lot to be better than.
I wonder why they didn't have a Nokia in that comparison in that test.
Anyway thanks for the laugh.

GTCC said:
Funny, you say that the Z3 is the best android phone camera and then you link a video that shows that it's anything but the best android camera, so which is it?
The reason for my post quoting you was because you said that the iPhone 6 camera was better than the Z3 camera but that is like saying that a Mercedes F1 car is better than a McLaren F1 car, yes it is but it is not like it had a lot to be better than.
I wonder why they didn't have a Nokia in that comparison in that test.
Anyway thanks for the laugh.
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Don't get me wrong, I love Z2/Z3 camera. I owned Z2 for 2 months, and it's camera was superb! What I mean is - OPO's camera produces VERY mediocre photos. For example - this shot was taken on Z2 without any editing.
http://s010.radikal.ru/i312/1410/42/a43d189886f7.jpg
OPO's camera doesn't produce such good colours (at least on CM ROM, I haven't tried ColorOS). So it's kinda stupid to recommend someone OPO, if he needs good camera. Xperia Z2/Z3 suit his needs much better, and Z2 is quite cheap now, because it's not flagship anymore.

I'd probably get the note 4 if not for AT&T locking it down. Same with Verizon.
One plus is excellent though I'm quite happy with it.

I had the galaxy s5. I was hoping to put a gpe rom on it, but it never came out. I got really frustrated by touchwiz and the lag it caused. I really liked the camera and screen of the s5, but decided to give it to my sister and ordered the opo. I am still very happy with my choice. The only thing that I miss is the lte. Good luck making a decision.

ozal5 said:
So far i can see clearly that the OPO is better,is had the same proccesor and better battery it's look like i'll choose the OPO,because if the OPO better then the S5 isn't reason to pay more (only the IPS67 is a good reason but not enough).
Thanks alot ,
i asked in another fourm im my country and people told me to buy S5 but i trust this fourm more.
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The OPO is cheaper and has more RAM, thats it. Oh and tons of bugs and a yellow band at the bottom of the display and no customer service.
If you have the money, get anything else.

[QESTION][SUGGESTION] Alternative For The OnePlus 5 ?

I don't know about you guys , but i'm disappointed by the OP5 ... and regretting the fact that i waited nearly a full year for it , now i need another phone , and i think most of you do as well , it's the main reason people didn't wanna return their phones , because there are no alternatives that has :
-Stock or Stock-ish android experience ( or dev community support for custom roms and all .. )
-overall great camera ( specially dual lenses , you can do great things with a dual shooter )
-high end specs ( SD835 , at least 6GB of RAM for heavy multitasking and installing a LOT of apps , bluetooth 5 , UFS 2,1 ... it is actually faster and has a significant impact on performance etc etc ... )
-Unlocked and multiband support ( i live in algeria ... u probably never heard of it , so no verison or AT&T ... )
i don't care about a 4K display , i was very please with that FHD amoled one
i don't care about bezels ... in fact i love them , they give more grip more protection and more natural look n feel
i don't care about SD card slots , i prefer putting all my data in one partition
i don't care about iris scanners or squeeze features ... BULL**** to me
i don't care about VR ... it's useless in out era IMO
i don't care about price , as long as it is not like 1000 dollars
i don't give that much importance to water resistance ... even though it will be appreciated
i don't give that much importance to design ... i want my phone to be beautiful but i don't care that it looks like another phone
i can't live without a phone that i can't root and fully customize and flash mods on and tune my audio and everything ... i never owned a flagship , all my life been running off of chineese phones with 1GB of ram and a MTK Soc but trust me i went far with em ... now i need a good phone .
by the things i said the OP5 will be perfect , but just too much flaws man ..
i am sure a lot of people are like me so please help
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Hmm You can take a look at Motorola or xaomi are pretty close to Google stock. May i ask what flaws you have with the op5? I owned It a week now and battery / performance is awsome.
Cheers

Lackluster cameras and a jelly screen.

roba93 said:
Hmm You can take a look at Motorola or xaomi are pretty close to Google stock. May i ask what flaws you have with the op5? I owned It a week now and battery / performance is awsome.
Cheers
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Since the moment i heard about it i knew it was gonna be the PERFECT phone for me ... but the jello effect and the camera are kinda putting me dowwnn , like really

Kirahvi said:
Lackluster cameras and a jelly screen.
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Yes that is exactly what's holding me back from it

ReyTheBoss said:
Since the moment i heard about it i knew it was gonna be the PERFECT phone for me ... but the jello effect and the camera are kinda putting me dowwnn , like really
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Hmm thats to bad. Personaly i dont see the jelly effect, could be my eyes or my phone does not have it haha. Camera is fine for my needs. But Will improve alot with software updates.
I think for the same experience with better camera and no jelly it would be the Google pixel. But Its an expensive choice
Cheers

Hola
I think that I can empathize with your sentiments on this device. I also refuse to utilise any new phone that does not provide me with an unlocked bootloader and sources for their kernel or firmware, which in turn hopefully gives way to a vibrant development community.
You can consider:
1. Devices from OPPO. They do provide some decent specs for their higher tiered devices, and I understand, like OnePlus, they have a decent active development community.
2. ZTE Axon 7. Yes, last year's specifications but man those dual firing front speakers are awesome as is the screen and phone build. Development is there though only a few active developers are around. I honestly believe it was the best phone of last year for the specs it had with ability to at least get LOS and RR official support! I was using the Axon 7 before I switched to the OnePlus 5.
3. Crazy as it sounds, but the OnePlus 3T might be a decent alternative. Getting one used might be your best bet.
4. You may have to wait for the Pixel 2 series later in November / December if you want decent specs, good camera, and an proper development support.
While indeed hardware specs are super important, I have come to realise after using a number of flagship devices from Samsung and others that if the hardware doesn't have the open community behind it, IMHO the phone is a flop! Samsung Galaxy S series does have the ability to unlock the bootloader in certain regions, the hardware specs are usually top notch, but man I hate TouchWiz and the inability to utilize LOS or RR custom ROMs. Xiaomi phones are decently priced and certain phones get good community development like the Global version of the Redmi Note 4 but the hardware specs are many time mediocre. I would get a Global Redmi Note 4 as a secondary phone just in case my main phone got damaged or lost.
I am reading each and every post here on the OnePlus 5, seeing all the known issues, and the accompanying hate, but those listed issues won't be enough for me to switch yet. I am patiently waiting on our great developers to start providing some kickass custom ROMs.

roba93 said:
Hmm thats to bad. Personaly i dont see the jelly effect, could be my eyes or my phone does not have it haha. Camera is fine for my needs. But Will improve alot with software updates.
I think for the same experience with better camera and no jelly it would be the Google pixel. But Its an expensive choice
Cheers
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Not only it is expensive , but with an old chipset and less ram and the ugliest desing ever and back fingerprint sensor ... nah man
plus even if i wait for the pixel 2 ... that's gonna be like napalm for my wallet ! nah ...
if it was that easy i wouldn't have created this thread
thank you soo much for your help my friend

I think mine is dope

QAM said:
Hola
I think that I can empathize with your sentiments on this device. I also refuse to utilise any new phone that does not provide me with an unlocked bootloader and sources for their kernel or firmware, which in turn hopefully gives way to a vibrant development community.
You can consider:
1. Devices from OPPO. They do provide some decent specs for their higher tiered devices, and I understand, like OnePlus, they have a decent active development community.
2. ZTE Axon 7. Yes, last year's specifications but man those dual firing front speakers are awesome as is the screen and phone build. Development is there though only a few active developers are around. I honestly believe it was the best phone of last year for the specs it had with ability to at least get LOS and RR official support! I was using the Axon 7 before I switched to the OnePlus 5.
3. Crazy as it sounds, but the OnePlus 3T might be a decent alternative. Getting one used might be your best bet.
4. You may have to wait for the Pixel 2 series later in November / December if you want decent specs, good camera, and an proper development support.
While indeed hardware specs are super important, I have come to realise after using a number of flagship devices from Samsung and others that if the hardware doesn't have the open community behind it, IMHO the phone is a flop! Samsung Galaxy S series does have the ability to unlock the bootloader in certain regions, the hardware specs are usually top notch, but man I hate TouchWiz and the inability to utilize LOS or RR custom ROMs. Xiaomi phones are decently priced and certain phones get good community development like the Global version of the Redmi Note 4 but the hardware specs are many time mediocre. I would get a Global Redmi Note 4 as a secondary phone just in case my main phone got damaged or lost.
I am reading each and every post here on the OnePlus 5, seeing all the known issues, and the accompanying hate, but those listed issues won't be enough for me to switch yet. I am patiently waiting on our great developers to start providing some kickass custom ROMs.
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First off , in 6 months of browsing in XDA , this is the best reply i have ever recieved :victory:
i am exactly like you , i could never agree more ... but i really don't like the other choices ... hear me out
1-the latest device of oppo is the OPPO R11 plus ... which is like the ****ing deformated twin brother of the OP5 : same design look but the OP5 looks better and feels more premium ...and lower specs ( snapdragon 660 ? srsly ? )
and i've never been a fan of oppo phones and their UI that craves to be IOS like ... so i can't really go with that .
2-ZTE axon 7 is a really great phone , but last year's great phone , i wanna buy a phone that i won't swap for like 2 years , and this one is already pretty old , and i honestly can't let go of the SD835 andreno 540 , 8gigs of ram , DUAL cam , bluetooth 5 , gorilla glass 5 , front mounted fingerprint scanner etc ... i don't give much importance to the front firing speaker because i don't use it that much ... but the audio quality over the jack is verryyyyy important to me , as i said i never go with a phone without a sound mod applied , but the ZTE axon 7 just seems lacking a lot of the features here so it ain't attrackting me
3-will never consider the 3T because the 5 has everything the 3T has in a better way ... straight up
4-pixel 2 is actually my only choice except the OP5 ... but the price is gonna be radioactive , and the wait till nov/dec is really not pleasing , as i said i am running over multiple chineese phones that are loow ****ing end ... can't take it anymore i need something good
now honestly i haate the Samsung eco system ... and i hate the bother of looking for universal versions just for convinience , plus i don't trust the exynos ones i'd rather take a Snapdragon , but those are the ones that u can't do anything to ... what a shame
i am also reading all the threads about the OP5 ... and the only thing that really gets to me is the camera , i have a dslr ... but i really wanna experience one of the best phone cameras , because u can pretty much guess based on the phones i use that their camera is more than trash ... i never actually use them ... so if they fix the camera next month i will probably pick one ... if not , maybe i'll wait for the pixel 2 ...
thank you very much for your help ! :highfive:

Rebel7022 said:
I think mine is dope
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how is your experience with the camera ?

ReyTheBoss said:
if it was that easy i wouldn't have created this thread
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Newsflash! No matter what phone you choose (or wait for) there's likely going to be some aspect(s) that you don't like. There's also going to be some aspect(s) that delight you.
The design of every phone is a set of compromises. That reality also means that some people will be disappointed with some of those compromise decisions.
The only advice I can offer is to find something whose compromises you can live with. For me that happens to be the OP5--despite some of the compromises they made.

ReyTheBoss said:
how is your experience with the camera ?
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I like flashing roms and dash, I'm not into taking pics, so I don't care about the camera. I do like the camera though it's pretty good, I'm sure a dev will hook the camera up & improve it

auntyvirus said:
Newsflash! No matter what phone you choose (or wait for) there's likely going to be some aspect(s) that you don't like. There's also going to be some aspect(s) that delight you.
The design of every phone is a set of compromises. That reality also means that some people will be disappointed with some of those compromise decisions.
The only advice I can offer is to find something whose compromises you can live with. For me that happens to be the OP5--despite some of the compromises they made.
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a bit agressive here but you are right ... it is just that the camera of the OP5 was supposed to be THE "feauture" , the whole marketing point , not the biggest flaw of the device ... and it's almost a deal breaker ...
plus this thread is for all people not just for me , i am positive that a lot of people are in the same spot as me
and i know how it'll go , either i accept the OP5 or patience and time will show :good:

Rebel7022 said:
I like flashing roms and dash, I'm not into taking pics, so I don't care about the camera. I do like the camera though it's pretty good, I'm sure a dev will hook the camera & improve it
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cool my friend thank you for the reply ... i can't wait to please my flash addiction one i get my hand on it then

ReyTheBoss said:
a bit agressive here...
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It wasn't my intention to be aggressive or put anyone down. Rather it was to set expectations. You've asked a very good question. It's just that I doubt there's a good answer.
I've been looking for a replacement for my Nexus 5 for many months now. I finally decided to go with the OP5. Despite some minor quibbles, I'm keeping mine.
Yes, many people are in the same or similar situation as you. But if there was some other phone that had all of the positive features of the OP5, also addressed the negative ones, and cost no more than the OP5, I'm sure it would have been mentioned here. That it hasn't suggests either that (1) such a phone doesn't exist or that (2) everyone has their own individual set of criteria so no consensus can be reached.

ReyTheBoss said:
by the things i said the OP5 will be perfect , but just too much flaws man ..
i am sure a lot of people are like me so please help
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I feel your point, 95% I agree with your analisys.
Moreover I need a dual SIM phone, and unlocked: my job obligates me to travel around the world, and I need to put a "local SIM" in order to get everywhere an internet connection, with acceptable costs.
If not OP5................. I could get:
Xiaomi, Galaxy S8 duos , Lenovo(Motorola), some Honor/Huawei.
I am based in Europe, Italy, that means:
not all Xiaomi support Italian 4G-LTE band, it sucks
Galaxy S8 duos in Italy is an import product... with delay in delivery and possible problem with warranty
Lenovo Honor and Huawei could be OK, but personally I feel not at the same level of OP5, in specs-performance.
At the end... when I will have the OP5 in my hand (in 2 weeks) I hope it totally satisfy myself, because ATM I have NO other options.
Crossed fingers

Ale08 said:
I feel your point, 95% I agree with your analisys.
Moreover I need a dual SIM phone, and unlocked: my job obligates me to travel around the world, and I need to put a "local SIM" in order to get everywhere an internet connection, with acceptable costs.
If not OP5................. I could get:
Xiaomi, Galaxy S8 duos , Lenovo(Motorola), some Honor/Huawei.
I am based in Europe, Italy, that means:
not all Xiaomi support Italian 4G-LTE band, it sucks
Galaxy S8 duos in Italy is an import product... with delay in delivery and possible problem with warranty
Lenovo Honor and Huawei could be OK, but personally I feel not at the same level of OP5, in specs-performance.
At the end... when I will have the OP5 in my hand (in 2 weeks) I hope it totally satisfy myself, because ATM I have NO other options.
Crossed fingers
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so again it goes back to the OnePlus 5 ... and all the criticism aside , it's a ****ing great phone , i might just stop *****ing about it and start seeing the good side of it XD that implies for everybody else :highfive:

Even though you don't care about any of the features that are distinguishing many of 2017's flagships, there are some that have those features and can still fit your criteria:
1. HTC U11. It is bootloader unlockable from the factory, so you can play with it to your hearts content.
2. Sony Xperia XZ Premium. Recently was added to their developer program, which will allow you to mod it, as well.
3. LG G6 US997. If in the US, this specific model has been added to the unlockable models list and LG tends to have a healthy following (even with the dreaded bootloop issue).
4. OnePlus 3T. As good as the OnePlus 5 in many ways and better in many others (no jelly like scrolling, massive custom development scene).
5. Google Pixel. No explanations necessary.

ReyTheBoss said:
i am sure a lot of people are like me so please help
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www.kimovil.com is a pretty good page to compare and or find a phone that match your demands.
im more concerned about custom rom and developer community.

One Plus 5 or Note 8

Hi, I need some advice on which device I am going to buy. I'm going to use this I guess 3 to 5 years as I dont replace my phone that often so this thread will help A LOT. I'm basing on some reviews, speed tests, but the two seems to be on par with each other. Price is/may kind of an issue here as I would love to use some of the money (if I buy the OP5) for the after sales and some personal stuff. However if the Note 8 is really "bang for the buck" then I'll gladly go with it. I also tried to search some issues. Here's what I found so far:
One Plus 5:
GPS Issue
Bluetooth Issue
Overheating issue
Jelly Screen effect
Note 8:
Red tint in a lot of device
Light leak (lights leaking on the side of the phone not much of an issue for me)
If you have some issues with the phone, please feel free to reply. It would be appreciated a lot!
I also created Pros and Cons that might help me but I ended up more confused what to buy. Haha.
Pros for One Plus 5
Performance
Price
Dev Community as I love to mod my phone
Fingerprint Scanner placement + the scan speed is so fast
I've seen a lot of people who still uses OPO or OP2 which means that this device last long
The toggle above the volume like in iPhones
Customizable hardware buttons (I really love this one)
Cons for One Plus 5
Issues above as I really need the GPS and bluetooth, and I play heavy games.
No waterproofing
No Micro SD slot (I guess 128gb is enough but I would love to have the option of expanding more)
Pros for Note 8
SPen
Camera
Performance (but I've read OP5 has better. The 8gb ram may be the reason. But please feel free to correct me)
Display is a plus
Iris Scanner and Face Recognition (Is it accurate?)
Cons for Note 8
Samsung phones tend to slow down after months/years of using it.
Price
Body build is somewhat easy to crack due to glass body + curved edge
Samsung is a little bit strict when it comes to flashing Custom ROMS and I dont know if the SPen functionalities will be affected. (Please correct me here)
Fingerprint Scanner placement
I may be wrong with some of this but I've researched and this is what I've seen.
If this is a point to consider, I'm coming from a Xperia Z3Compact which didn't last long (I hated sony to the hell because of this) because of the digitizer issue. However, I enjoyed tweaking that phone. Now I'm forced to use my iPhone5s with jailbreak.
Note: Just to be clear, the devices in comparison are OP5 8gb/128gb and Note 8 6gb/64gb Exynos
Note: I'm posting this to each respective forum to have a fair discussion for each phone. I hope this is allowed. I also hope to help some people that have the same options with me.
Note 8 Thread: Link Here
OnePlus 5 Thread: Link Here
Thank you guys. After a long comparison, I'm going for the OP5 even with the rumors of OP5T. I just hate the back fingerprint scanner placements which is the trend now. And regarding with the bezels, I'm more into those phone with bezels on top and bottom for landscape usage. I've been trying the S8+, and some games that I play doesn't maximize or utilize the whole screen which leaves some part of the screen blank. However, the screen in the Note 8 is A1 dont get me wrong, but I'm more into the performance and the OP5's screen is enough. Thank you guys!

You are on the OP5 forum so replies can't be realistic... I prefer the OP5 anyday over any Sammy device for just one reason: the OS. I prefer a clean near stock Android OS over the bloated TW UI but that's just me. Note 8 is a great device and all of Samsung hardware is very well made, but the almost double price and the OS give my vote to the OnePlus 5.

I dont have any issues with GPS, Bluetooth and overheat since I bought OP5 til now. Best phone I ever have til now.

I have to disagree for the overheating issue. Same reason with the first reply, I like OxygenOS than TW.

+1 No issues with BT, GPS or overheating here too.

I don't have any heat issues as well. Quite the opposite: It's the coolest device I ever had, much cooler than the Galaxy S5, LG G4 and the HTC 10 which I all had before.
The question, in my opinion, is not "OP5 or Note 8" but "OP5 or HTC U11 or LG V30". But I'm very happy with the OP5!

gianton said:
You are on the OP5 forum so replies can't be realistic... I prefer the OP5 anyday over any Sammy device for just one reason: the OS. I prefer a clean near stock Android OS over the bloated TW UI but that's just me. Note 8 is a great device and all of Samsung hardware is very well made, but the almost double price and the OS give my vote to the OnePlus 5.
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I also posted this in Note 8 because I expected biased replies in the same forum. So the OS and the price is the point. Thank you sir!
chobztopz said:
I dont have any issues with GPS, Bluetooth and overheat since I bought OP5 til now. Best phone I ever have til now.
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I see, I updated the post and added the Jelly effect. Have you experienced it?
exce1ia said:
I have to disagree for the overheating issue. Same reason with the first reply, I like OxygenOS than TW.
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I think where ever I ask, its OOS > TW. Also, I updated the post and added the Jelly effect. Have you experienced it?
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+1 No issues with BT, GPS or overheating here too.
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I updated the post and added the Jelly effect. Have you experienced it sir?
RogerF81 said:
I don't have any heat issues as well. Quite the opposite: It's the coolest device I ever had, much cooler than the Galaxy S5, LG G4 and the HTC 10 which I all had before.
The question, in my opinion, is not "OP5 or Note 8" but "OP5 or HTC U11 or LG V30". But I'm very happy with the OP5!
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I've seen the HTC U11, but I'm not a fan of the shiny back and HTC as well haha. About the V30, I guess I can consider it but this bootloop issue prevents me to check on it. Also, I updated the post and added the Jelly effect. Have you experienced it?

No jelly effect on my device.

I came from a s8 and s8 plus and so far beside the screen which to me the op5 looks great screen wise obviously not as great as the s8 but still awesome. And the design of the op5 is more of a shared look with smart phones.
Beside that I am very impressed with the onep5 I do not regret the giving up my s8 for this phone. It's so damn smooth and fluid I've had no hiccups.

I have none of the issues on my oneplus 5 that you mentioned
I'm happy with it.

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Hi, I need some advice on which device I am going to buy. I'm going to use this I guess 3 to 5 years as I dont replace my phone that often so this thread will help A LOT. I'm basing on some reviews, speed tests, but the two seems to be on par with each other. Price is/may kind of an issue here as I would love to use some of the money (if I buy the OP5) for the after sales and some personal stuff. However if the Note 8 is really "bang for the buck" then I'll gladly go with it. I also tried to search some issues. Here's what I found so far:
One Plus 5:
GPS Issue
Bluetooth Issue
Overheating issue
Jelly Screen effect
Note 8:
Red tint in a lot of device
Light leak (lights leaking on the side of the phone not much of an issue for me)
If you have some issues with the phone, please feel free to reply. It would be appreciated a lot!
I also created Pros and Cons that might help me but I ended up more confused what to buy. Haha.
Pros for One Plus 5
Performance
Price
Dev Community as I love to mod my phone
Fingerprint Scanner placement + the scan speed is so fast
I've seen a lot of people who still uses OPO or OP2 which means that this device last long
The toggle above the volume like in iPhones
Customizable hardware buttons (I really love this one)
Cons for One Plus 5
Issues above as I really need the GPS and bluetooth, and I play heavy games.
No waterproofing
No Micro SD slot (I guess 128gb is enough but I would love to have the option of expanding more)
Pros for Note 8
SPen
Camera
Performance (but I've read OP5 has better. The 8gb ram may be the reason. But please feel free to correct me)
Display is a plus
Iris Scanner and Face Recognition (Is it accurate?)
Cons for Note 8
Samsung phones tend to slow down after months/years of using it.
Price
Body build is somewhat easy to crack due to glass body + curved edge
Samsung is a little bit strict when it comes to flashing Custom ROMS and I dont know if the SPen functionalities will be affected. (Please correct me here)
Fingerprint Scanner placement
I may be wrong with some of this but I've researched and this is what I've seen.
If this is a point to consider, I'm coming from a Xperia Z3Compact which didn't last long (I hated sony to the hell because of this) because of the digitizer issue. However, I enjoyed tweaking that phone. Now I'm forced to use my iPhone5s with jailbreak.
Note: Just to be clear, the devices in comparison are OP5 8gb/128gb and Note 8 6gb/64gb Exynos
Note: I'm posting this to each respective forum to have a fair discussion for each phone. I hope this is allowed. I also hope to help some people that have the same options with me.
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Well your cons for the OnePlus 5 I don't have any of them. My GPS is rock solid as I use it for work at 2+ hours a day. Locks in seconds and never see drift. Bluetooth? I connect to my 2011 Nissan with no issues and connect it to audio adapter (MPOW to stream Bluetooth Audio to my AUX port) and 2 sets of headphones... never an issue with quality or connectivity. My phone never gets hot and while gaming, i barely notice it gets slightly warm. (EX Kernel manager shows CPU temp at 98F after 30 min of asphalt 8.
Maybe you have a phone you should RMA? But there is no way in hell I'm paying $1000 for ANY smart phone when I can get a phone that's better performing, has longer battery life, faster charging, clean basically Stock Android and likely faster updates then Sammy. I used to be a big Sammy fan but not since i left my Note 4 and got a Nexus 6P and now the OP5.
This isn't a bias, these are what I look for in a phone and the things that made me choose this phone over the S8+, LG G6 and the HTC U11.
The one Phone I would look at today compared to the OP5 is the new LG V30. Simply because It will support the new 600mhz band 71 from T-Mobile. I'd have to see how the battery holds up and how well the OS is optimized cause I'm not a fan of LG and it's skinned OS and it's much slower charging speed.
Update: I forgot to mention the Jelly effect. I heard people saying it effects every phone but I got my OP5 on launch day and I can tell you more then a dozen people have looked at my phone and no one can see a "jelly effect" If mine has it it's so minimal its not noticeable. I believe the severity vary's a lot.

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Glad to hear this
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I came from a s8 and s8 plus and so far beside the screen which to me the op5 looks great screen wise obviously not as great as the s8 but still awesome. And the design of the op5 is more of a shared look with smart phones.
Beside that I am very impressed with the onep5 I do not regret the giving up my s8 for this phone. It's so damn smooth and fluid I've had no hiccups.
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Thank you for the reply! Makes me want the OP5 more hahaha
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I have none of the issues on my oneplus 5 that you mentioned
I'm happy with it.
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Thank you sir!
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Well your cons for the OnePlus 5 I don't have any of them. My GPS is rock solid as I use it for work at 2+ hours a day. Locks in seconds and never see drift. Bluetooth? I connect to my 2011 Nissan with no issues and connect it to audio adapter (MPOW to stream Bluetooth Audio to my AUX port) and 2 sets of headphones... never an issue with quality or connectivity. My phone never gets hot and while gaming, i barely notice it gets slightly warm. (EX Kernel manager shows CPU temp at 98F after 30 min of asphalt 8.
Maybe you have a phone you should RMA? But there is no way in hell I'm paying $1000 for ANY smart phone when I can get a phone that's better performing, has longer battery life, faster charging, clean basically Stock Android and likely faster updates then Sammy. I used to be a big Sammy fan but not since i left my Note 4 and got a Nexus 6P and now the OP5.
This isn't a bias, these are what I look for in a phone and the things that made me choose this phone over the S8+, LG G6 and the HTC U11.
The one Phone I would look at today compared to the OP5 is the new LG V30. Simply because It will support the new 600mhz band 71 from T-Mobile. I'd have to see how the battery holds up and how well the OS is optimized cause I'm not a fan of LG and it's skinned OS and it's much slower charging speed.
Update: I forgot to mention the Jelly effect. I heard people saying it effects every phone but I got my OP5 on launch day and I can tell you more then a dozen people have looked at my phone and no one can see a "jelly effect" If mine has it it's so minimal its not noticeable. I believe the severity vary's a lot.
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I'm really a fan of SPen but the price really kills it. I thought the price would go lower because of the Note 7 issue haha! I've read some reviews about V30 and its impressive. However I'm really not a fan of LG's OS. I tried G6 and its not for me. But I'll try V30 some other time. About the jelly effect, when I've seen the issue in youtube it made me dizzy a little bit but I dont know if I'll be affected in real life. There little to no demo phones of OP5 here in my country. Thank you for your reply!

lazygeniuslanz said:
I also posted this in Note 8 because I expected biased replies in the same forum. So the OS and the price is the point. Thank you sir!
I see, I updated the post and added the Jelly effect. Have you experienced it?
I think where ever I ask, its OOS > TW. Also, I updated the post and added the Jelly effect. Have you experienced it?
I updated the post and added the Jelly effect. Have you experienced it sir?
I've seen the HTC U11, but I'm not a fan of the shiny back and HTC as well haha. About the V30, I guess I can consider it but this bootloop issue prevents me to check on it. Also, I updated the post and added the Jelly effect. Have you experienced it?
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Well, I purchased the phone 1 week ago, and yes, Jelly Effect is presented, but it's barely to notice. So really nothing which I'd somehow annoying. And the performance and battery life of this phone are outstanding

go for oneplus5.. best device that you can get...samsung sucks

lazygeniuslanz said:
Glad to hear this
Thank you for the reply! Makes me want the OP5 more hahaha
Thank you sir!
I'm really a fan of SPen but the price really kills it. I thought the price would go lower because of the Note 7 issue haha! I've read some reviews about V30 and its impressive. However I'm really not a fan of LG's OS. I tried G6 and its not for me. But I'll try V30 some other time. About the jelly effect, when I've seen the issue in youtube it made me dizzy a little bit but I dont know if I'll be affected in real life. There little to no demo phones of OP5 here in my country. Thank you for your reply!
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Yeah I also have a theory that the when the jelly effect on a video capture, that the recording enhances the effect, especially in slow motion. I think it's far fewer people say they see then the people who say they can't see it all all.

The Note's screen is better and the S Pen is great.
I owned a Note 4 but could got tired of all bloatware and Samsung in general. I know Touchwiz has improved but it's still too much.
Super happy with the OP5. I mostly used the S Pen for navigation and I use a simpler stylus I found on Amazon on the OP5 and it works great.
No issues with GPS, bluetooth or anything else for me.

The Jelly effect is present on my device, but I don't even notice it anymore more. Very rarely.
I'd go for the OnePlus 5 just because of the price. I can't see how the Note 8's camera, screen, waterproofing and microSD slot make up for that $500 difference. The Note 8 can't even make up for the $200 difference from the S8, and those are nearly identical phones in many aspects.
I chose the OnePlus 5 for the following reasons:
- Performance
- Development community and support
- Price
Samsung tends to have issues with all 3 of the above.
The biggest difference here being the price and you really need to ask yourself "Am I really getting my money's worth?"
I highly doubt the Note 8 is $500 better than the OnePlus 5 or 2-300 better than any other Flagship launched this year.

Very cool running device... GPS issue may have been the 911 bug, but that was quite a while ago.Jelly Screen seems non existent, but people like to report it never the less (even on moto phone....) Wifi issues? Might be because using inferior x12 modem so I'm disappointed. x16 modem is much better, which is what other flagships using 835 win at. Also oneplus 5 display isn't all that great, just 1080p, it does look good, HOWEVER no support for HDR content i've so ever wanted to view. but 1080p looks very good as any screen if few inches away from.

Kinda sick of hearing the jelly effect as a negative. It's not, its more of an accent flavor. Adding life to scrolling. As for those other issues i have never seen them outside of xXx's rom. Running stock 4.5.12 right now and took a nice drive and my device had me spot on every step of the 2 hour drive. it just depends on what you want. Best hope developer support for the note 8 is more than nothing. Oneplus devices live longer than most devices out there. hell the OPO is on oreo right now. go figure.

Overheating? This phone stays cool with heavy games for more than 40 minutes. I'm not saying as a pro for op5, the note 8 snapdragon version should be the same ( I don't know if there is a snap version for the note).
Jelly is present on EVERY op5, some people see it, some people don't. When I order it I think that the first thing to do was to check the jelly issue, it came and I use it for a day, I didn't remember the jelly issue until I read it in the forum again, and when I scroll fast up and down I see it, but I have to do a fast up and down scroll and be looking for it, I don't see it normal usage. Even it costs me a little to see it intentionally.

Is it worth it? Why and why not?

I came from Angler. I lost my LCD due to some dumb reasons and was about to proceed to a repair center but turned around when I got the price for its repair (Costs 8,800 Php in the Philippines with battery replacement).
So right now I'm considering on buying a new phone. Which of course, since the Nexus family isn't continuing; I've set my eyes on OP. I know its a fantastic phone and did my research on it a lot. So my questions are:
Is it worth to get OP5? Why?
Should I wait for OP5T? (still skeptical since in the Ph the price actually skyrockets to +$200)
Is the camera better or at least as good as angler?
Lastly, does the Audio HAL/sounds are better than angler?
Please do help a buddy out on deciding. I'm currently stuck on 3 choices: repairing my angler or buying an OP5 or wait for OP5T but die because I don't have a phone in my hands atm and the price would most likely be about $600-700 in PH.
Also take note: OP doesn't have any warranty in the PH. If I destroyed it due to unknown reasons, the only repair I can guarantee is my tears. Phone costing $499 in your country always has about $50-99 more in mine due to delivery costs and stuff.
Please do help a brother out... Thanks!
 @shadowstep I will summon you

Sounds like you are in need of something right away. The regular 5 would likely be better due to price. 5T is only going to be a marginal improvement over the 5.

Digital Walker offers 1 year warranty in thr Philippines and their price is not that far from the orginal price. Have you checked that store out? I'm pretty sure they'll be selling the OP5T when it comes out.
I got my device from them.

The One Plus 5 is a good phone in terms of hardware specs and development community but it's a poor phone in terms of build quality. My headphone jack was unusable within 90 days. The USB port and buttons and alert slider are all budget phone quality. I would not buy a One Plus phone if there were no warranty or repair options because it most likely will end in tears.
To answer your questions : sound was superior on the angler. The camera hardware in the OP5 is more powerful on paper than the camera hardware in the angler but the camera app in the OP5 is crap so the angler took much better pictures. Unless you are willing to put the OP5 on a tripod and use expert mode to manually change the settings the camera hardware on the OP5 is wasted. My $150 Samsung J3 took better pictures, especially in low light. The angler is also smoother IMO, has far better speakers and a display with no jelly effect.
The OP5 has massively better battery life than the angler, runs cooler and has a more efficient processor where thermal throttling is never an issue. It also charges much faster.
With the OP5T coming out soon if you are determined to get a One Plus phone I think it would be foolish to buy an OP5 now unless the price is fantastic. The 5T will likely be a better phone and the resale value of the OP5 will drop like a rock because of the jelly effect problem.

exce1ia said:
Digital Walker offers 1 year warranty in thr Philippines and their price is not that far from the orginal price. Have you checked that store out? I'm pretty sure they'll be selling the OP5T when it comes out.
I got my device from them.
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Yes I did, unfortunately like OP3T and others, the release from them would likely be delayed for 2 months just like OP5 was released around July-August. I am in need of a phone right now especially in terms of work and family. Warranty will be voided once I do some things with OP but I'm pretty sure I can just reflash factory image to boot it up and proceed with warranty.
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To answer your questions : sound was superior on the angler. The camera hardware in the OP5 is more powerful on paper than the camera hardware in the angler but the camera app in the OP5 is crap so the angler took much better pictures. Unless you are willing to put the OP5 on a tripod and use expert mode to manually change the settings the camera hardware on the OP5 is wasted. My $150 Samsung J3 took better pictures, especially in low light. The angler is also smoother IMO, has far better speakers and a display with no jelly effect.
The OP5 has massively better battery life than the angler, runs cooler and has a more efficient processor where thermal throttling is never an issue. It also charges much faster.
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Your post makes sense. I do know that Angler takes better picture and I really think OP has a crappy software that makes the phone's camera specs wasted. +1 on angler on that but I didn't know angler has a better speaker, though I'm more concerned on Audio HAL which is the headphone's jack, which you say OP5 is better (not yet sure as some said angler was better or probably just the same).
What I'm really after with OP5 is the screen display, battery and the no-frills thermal throttle on SoC 835. Angler has a lot of issues with thermal throttling due to poor 810 but I've already done some things to remedy that. You have a great point with me waiting on OP5T but the problem again is the price, as I am in need of a phone badly. Hopefully the sale affects the seller here in PH as well (just one store) and if not, I can't wait until next year to buy one...

phantom146 said:
Is it worth to get OP5? Why?
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Whether it's worth or not is a very subjective opinion, but for me, it was worth it. I've always been a Google fanboy but with the launch of Pixels, their smartphone positioning changed from developer-friendly, not very expensive phones made for the power users to made-for-general-public, very expensive, locked down phones made for competing against the likes of Apple and Samsung flagships. Hence, I started looking for a Nexus-alternative and OnePlus fit the description best. It costed me less than what I spent on my 6P, has an amazing developer community, the battery life is just stellar and it has been a great buy overall.. totally worth it.
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Should I wait for OP5T? (still skeptical since in the Ph the price actually skyrockets to +$200)
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If you prefer fingerprint sensor on the back and no hardware keys (Nexus style), then you should go for the 5T, or else don't. If price is a major decision, then the 5 should suffice 100%. 5T isn't much of an upgrade (especially because the processor is the same). Just that the screen is bumped up (which honestly I don't mind in the 5 because it's too small a gadget for screen size to be that important for me, but that's a personal thing) and the battery will be slightly more in capacity (but that will be compensated by the bigger screen, and hence there won't be any difference as compared to the 5).
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Is the camera better or at least as good as angler?
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The stock OnePlus camera is inferior to Google Camera which was there in the 6P, but that's not because 5 has a bad camera hardware, it's just that the software processing of the picture is just average. To work around that, there is a Google Camera mod available now which enabled HDR+ on the 5 as well and I use it over the stock OnePlus camera. The results are far better with Google Camera's HDR and comparable to the 6P now. I'm satisfied.
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Frankly speaking, I do miss the front facing stereo speakers and it was a downgrade in terms of speakers when I got the 5. However, with the stereo speaker mod (which turns the front earpiece into a mini-speaker as well) along with the A.R.I.S.E sound system/V4A mod, I'm damn happy. The bottom firing speakers can really loud if you want them to (more than the 6P at times) and the quality is great with the A.R.I.S.E sound system/V4A mod. Regarding the jack, I found it similar, didn't notice a big difference because I use bluetooth earphones.
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Please do help a buddy out on deciding. I'm currently stuck on 3 choices: repairing my angler or buying an OP5 or wait for OP5T but die because I don't have a phone in my hands atm and the price would most likely be about $600-700 in PH.
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I suggest you move on from the 6P because I also had to get my screen replaced initially and it costed me a bomb! Even if you get it changed along with the battery, it still won't be as good as a new phone, so. 5 or 5T, that depends on you given the pros and cons I listed above. 5 will be cheaper now that 5T is coming, so that should also work in your favour.
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Also take note: OP doesn't have any warranty in the PH. If I destroyed it due to unknown reasons, the only repair I can guarantee is my tears. Phone costing $499 in your country always has about $50-99 more in mine due to delivery costs and stuff.
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Is there an option of taking a third-party insurance from an insurance company? If yes, you can go for it and then be at peace. Also, do remember that rooting or unlocking the bootloader on OnePlus doesn't void their warranty. And one more thing, the jelly screen issue is exaggerated in my opinion. I haven't noticed it (maybe one or twice) and it's a zero issue for me.

shadowstep said:
Is there an option of taking a third-party insurance from an insurance company? If yes, you can go for it and then be at peace. Also, do remember that rooting or unlocking the bootloader on OnePlus doesn't void their warranty. And one more thing, the jelly screen issue is exaggerated in my opinion. I haven't noticed it (maybe one or twice) and it's a zero issue for me.
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There is a legit seller here in ph but would take 2 months from OP5's release date to sell it here which is a negative for me. Based from your perspectives, I might have to eliminate Angler and go with OP also given its rich dev-base. Still, however am displeased that I am gonna throw away $500 for a phone (highest I bought was 6P for $250 from a reseller). If only I'm not in need of it immediately, I am willing to wait until its price drop.
I hope the jelly screen will be fixed on OP5T tho

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There is a legit seller here in ph but would take 2 months from OP5's release date to sell it here which is a negative for me.
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Well, two months is a lot of time, indeed.
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Based from your perspectives, I might have to eliminate Angler and go with OP also given its rich dev-base. Still, however am displeased that I am gonna throw away $500 for a phone (highest I bought was 6P for $250 from a reseller). If only I'm not in need of it immediately, I am willing to wait until its price drop.
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..and to "not be in need of a new phone immediately", you'll have to either spend on getting the 6P repaired or getting a cheap/used smartphone for the period you plan on waiting for the price drop. Either ways, it's an expenditure which you can instead put on a new phone right now. Just my two cents.
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Me too! Though like I said before, it's a non-issue for me and I've barely ever noticed it. I'm totally happy with my 5's screen.

Just last question, @shadowstep, is it worth the price of $100 increase for the 128gb one? I personally don't need the 128gb but the 8gb could be handy or could be overkill?

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Just last question, @shadowstep, is it worth the price of $100 increase for the 128gb one? I personally don't need the 128gb but the 8gb could be handy or could be overkill?
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It is overkill if you don't need it, frankly speaking. I got the 128/8 variant just because it was the higher end one. I don't use more than 10% of the space available.
Also, I've used the 64/6 variant too, and there is no as such noticeable difference in app management with 6 GB RAM too as compared to 8 GB RAM. I don't do heavy gaming or whatever it is that needs so much RAM, so it was overkill for me.

Go for the larger memory device.
In regards to which one the 5T would be the obvious choice, the 5 is a beast and the only plus side for me is the 1080p screen, it'll give a little extra performance and stamina.
But even with that in mind if I was looking to upgrade it'd be the 5T.

I'll throw my hat in here: What about the Razer Phone?

Thinking of upgrading from a Sprint Galaxy Note 4. Camera quality comparisons?

I've had my Galaxy Note 4 for four years now, and it's time for an upgrade. The only two phones I've been eyeing are the Pixel 3 XL and the Oneplus 6T. There are some other good phones out there, but the others I've looked at are unrootable. I love the camera on my GN4, and was wondering if anyone here has previously owned a GN4 and can give me a picture/video comparison with the Oneplus 6T? I've seen the reviews between the Oneplus 6T and Pixel 3, and the Pixel 3 wins easily. Sad thing about the Pixel 3 is that it's so expensive and has smaller battery, but I do love the camera results! I just have no frame of reference to compare my aging phone with the newer ones.
Thanks!

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I've had my Galaxy Note 4 for four years now, and it's time for an upgrade. The only two phones I've been eyeing are the Pixel 3 XL and the Oneplus 6T. There are some other good phones out there, but the others I've looked at are unrootable. I love the camera on my GN4, and was wondering if anyone here has previously owned a GN4 and can give me a picture/video comparison with the Oneplus 6T? I've seen the reviews between the Oneplus 6T and Pixel 3, and the Pixel 3 wins easily. Sad thing about the Pixel 3 is that it's so expensive and has smaller battery, but I do love the camera results! I just have no frame of reference to compare my aging phone with the newer ones.
Thanks!
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Honestly,if you're pleased w/all things in general with the Note 4,you're giving up a lot of features not found on newer devices.
I definitely recommend keeping the Note 4 before switching to another phone (unless you have a trade-in allowance).
If you're not going to miss an SD Card Slot/3.5 mm audio jack/I-R Blaster/LED Notifications/No Notch, then,you have the gains of more RAM & a newer phone w/better battery life/overall performance.
The OP6T is a nice phone,but,honestly,I think an OP5 or OP5T is a better choice,the former if you prefer the navigation similar to that of the Note4.
(might wanna Google search a camera comparison of the Note 4 to either/both)
Full disclosure:
This advice is coming from a serial phone switcher in recovery/remission ........................ :laugh:

KOLIOSIS said:
Honestly,if you're pleased w/all things in general with the Note 4,you're giving up a lot of features not found on newer devices.
I definitely recommend keeping the Note 4 before switching to another phone (unless you have a trade-in allowance).
If you're not going to miss an SD Card Slot/3.5 mm audio jack/I-R Blaster/LED Notifications/No Notch, then,you have the gains of more RAM & a newer phone w/better battery life/overall performance.
The OP6T is a nice phone,but,honestly,I think an OP5 or OP5T is a better choice,the former if you prefer the navigation similar to that of the Note4.
(might wanna Google search a camera comparison of the Note 4 to either/both)
Full disclosure:
This advice is coming from a serial phone switcher in recovery/remission ........................ :laugh:
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not even a comparison... get it

Logix said:
not even a comparison... get it
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I do have an OP6T, perhaps you wanted to quote the OP?
Comparing phones is subjective at best,just hitting on the features he'd be leaving behind in "upgrading" to either phone.
To some,those features are antiquated,others no so much.
Given the OP has held on to the phone for as long as he has gives me reason to believe the latter....
Too bad the prevailing trend seems to be getting less for more $$$, it's definitely a trade-off.

I've definitely compared what I would be giving up to what I would be gaining. My Sprint GN4 has been unlocked to work with domestic GSM (I have Cricket wireless now) and I have no LTE, and probably missing a few of the used frequencies (although I have never really checked). I love the screen and the camera on the GN4, but I'm stuck on Marshmallow and no security updates. I've tried Lineage OS both Nougat and Oreo, and both have so many bugs, it's not worth the headache. Not to mention it's getting harder to find batteries for it. Most I find now are "new" but end up being used. The GN4 never really did have that great of battery life, so that's one of the things that makes me want to switch to something else. Not that I'm a heavy user, but when you start using the video and taking lots of pics on the GN4, the battery tends to drain quickly. And I was hoping I would get Android Auto to work without having to plug and unplug it several times for it to connect (It's done it on Marshmallow and Lineage OS). It's almost as if it's not loading the applications fast enough for the handshake with the head unit.
I would miss my SD Card slot, that's why I was looking at the 256GB Oneplus 6T model.
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Honestly,if you're pleased w/all things in general with the Note 4,you're giving up a lot of features not found on newer devices.
I definitely recommend keeping the Note 4 before switching to another phone (unless you have a trade-in allowance).
If you're not going to miss an SD Card Slot/3.5 mm audio jack/I-R Blaster/LED Notifications/No Notch, then,you have the gains of more RAM & a newer phone w/better battery life/overall performance.
The OP6T is a nice phone,but,honestly,I think an OP5 or OP5T is a better choice,the former if you prefer the navigation similar to that of the Note4.
(might wanna Google search a camera comparison of the Note 4 to either/both)
Full disclosure:
This advice is coming from a serial phone switcher in recovery/remission ........................ :laugh:
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MrSickle said:
I've definitely compared what I would be giving up to what I would be gaining. My Sprint GN4 has been unlocked to work with domestic GSM (I have Cricket wireless now) and I have no LTE, and probably missing a few of the used frequencies (although I have never really checked).
I would miss my SD Card slot, that's why I was looking at the 256GB Oneplus 6T model.
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You're definitely in the right place for root/ROMs,OnePlus phones get a good variety of development.
One other feature I failed to address (the elephant in the room, LOL) :
Is the S-Pen something you're using a lot of on the Note4?
If not, then this is the place to be.
Guessing you're aware of the current state of things with the newer US Notes & the pros & cons of importing either version (Snapdragon or Exynos).
If nothing else, most T-Mobile US stores have working demos of the OP6T to test drive, see if it's for you. ?
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I was in your same situation. I had GN4 for 4 years and now i bought the OP6t. Honestly i didn't use the camera of smartphone so much and i cant tell you the difference right now but i will do a comparison tomorrow and post the results here
But regarding all other things, the OP6t is the winner. Better display, great battery life, fingerprint sensor is fast enough (never used on note 4 because it was unconfortable for me), there is also the face unlock and it is very fast; you will not see the lockscreen most of times.
The phone is very very fast and well optimized, no lag and didn't heat neither after an heavy usage.
Feel free to ask anything for the comparision
P.s. sorry for my bad english

The pixel 3 if you care about taking pics, rest of the hardware and value go for the 6t.

I think in the 4 years I've had the Note 4, I may have used the S-Pen maybe 10 times. It can be handy sometimes, but not really a show stopper for me.
I had looked at the International versions of the Samsung devices (GN9, GS9+) and sadly, I would be missing some frequency bands on those devices too
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You're definitely in the right place for root/ROMs,OnePlus phones get a good variety of development.
One other feature I failed to address (the elephant in the room, LOL) :
Is the S-Pen something you're using a lot of on the Note4?
If not, then this is the place to be.
Guessing you're aware of the current state of things with the newer US Notes & the pros & cons of importing either version (Snapdragon or Exynos).
If nothing else, most T-Mobile US stores have working demos of the OP6T to test drive, see if it's for you.
Sent from my SM-N960U using XDA Labs
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A good camera is important for me. Although I'm not a professional photographer, it has been one of my hobbies for a while. I've managed to capture some really good shots with my Note 4, hence my particular interest in the OP6T as a cheaper alternative to the Pixel 3 XL. I managed to get a look at a Pixel 3 XL in person today and the notch was like a slap in the face. Although, I do know it can be masked out. I don't have any T-mobile stores around that I know of, so I can't check out the OP6T in person. I'm starting to feel like Sheldon on "The Big Bang Theory" where he tries to decide between an Xbox One and PS4
Zekol said:
I was in your same situation. I had GN4 for 4 years and now i bought the OP6t. Honestly i didn't use the camera of smartphone so much and i cant tell you the difference right now but i will do a comparison tomorrow and post the results here
But regarding all other things, the OP6t is the winner. Better display, great battery life, fingerprint sensor is fast enough (never used on note 4 because it was unconfortable for me), there is also the face unlock and it is very fast; you will not see the lockscreen most of times.
The phone is very very fast and well optimized, no lag and didn't heat neither after an heavy usage.
Feel free to ask anything for the comparision
P.s. sorry for my bad english
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There are some pics of both
Note 4:
https://ibb.co/hvEMh0
https://ibb.co/emM4kL
https://ibb.co/dLD0QL
https://ibb.co/byczKf
https://ibb.co/bVjqQL
https://ibb.co/iqz75L
https://ibb.co/iwidC0
https://ibb.co/mQ4ks0
https://ibb.co/fO69Kf
https://ibb.co/hXzbX0
https://ibb.co/hOZRX0
https://ibb.co/hVbUkL
https://ibb.co/gSGjKf
https://ibb.co/jFNukL
https://ibb.co/j0R4kL
https://ibb.co/cOgn5L
https://ibb.co/nnffQL
https://ibb.co/kOBtef
https://ibb.co/nhpzkL
https://ibb.co/cMU4Kf
https://ibb.co/hOmvQL
https://ibb.co/fMnwX0
https://ibb.co/f1kfQL
OnePlus 6T:
https://ibb.co/mtgJef
https://ibb.co/gGPzkL
https://ibb.co/h2Qdef
https://ibb.co/cO5N5L
https://ibb.co/jwhukL
https://ibb.co/jGSGzf
https://ibb.co/jZNGzf
https://ibb.co/bOLmzf
https://ibb.co/ffPJC0
https://ibb.co/dUjqQL
https://ibb.co/cmG9Kf
https://ibb.co/nyTZkL
https://ibb.co/iKBgX0
https://ibb.co/dT44Kf
https://ibb.co/ipo3C0
https://ibb.co/jZmjKf
https://ibb.co/kKD3C0
https://ibb.co/dYDs5L
https://ibb.co/nwkBzf
https://ibb.co/cbn25L
https://ibb.co/i9nAQL
https://ibb.co/js4PkL
https://ibb.co/dXL8C0
As i said, i didn't use the camera of smartphone so much so probably these shots sucks :silly:
I used the auto mode on both as Note 4 doesn't have the pro mode and also i don't know how to use it on OnePlus 6T.
Well, there is also a port of the google camera for OP6t, I have to try it too, maybe i could take some better shots with it.
Hope this evening i can take some shots with low light and even try the night mode, i will update here if i can

Zekol, I can't thank you enough for those pics! Those were exactly the type of comparisons I needed! The camera's are very close in quality, except the OP6T tends to over sharpen the images just a bit, which may be able to be changed in the app or by use of another camera app. If you do happen to take some night shots, just take a few, no need to work yourself to death
Zekol said:
There are some pics of both
Note 4:
https://ibb.co/hvEMh0
https://ibb.co/emM4kL
https://ibb.co/dLD0QL
https://ibb.co/byczKf
https://ibb.co/bVjqQL
https://ibb.co/iqz75L
https://ibb.co/iwidC0
https://ibb.co/mQ4ks0
https://ibb.co/fO69Kf
https://ibb.co/hXzbX0
https://ibb.co/hOZRX0
https://ibb.co/hVbUkL
https://ibb.co/gSGjKf
https://ibb.co/jFNukL
https://ibb.co/j0R4kL
https://ibb.co/cOgn5L
https://ibb.co/nnffQL
https://ibb.co/kOBtef
https://ibb.co/nhpzkL
https://ibb.co/cMU4Kf
https://ibb.co/hOmvQL
https://ibb.co/fMnwX0
https://ibb.co/f1kfQL
OnePlus 6T:
https://ibb.co/mtgJef
https://ibb.co/gGPzkL
https://ibb.co/h2Qdef
https://ibb.co/cO5N5L
https://ibb.co/jwhukL
https://ibb.co/jGSGzf
https://ibb.co/jZNGzf
https://ibb.co/bOLmzf
https://ibb.co/ffPJC0
https://ibb.co/dUjqQL
https://ibb.co/cmG9Kf
https://ibb.co/nyTZkL
https://ibb.co/iKBgX0
https://ibb.co/dT44Kf
https://ibb.co/ipo3C0
https://ibb.co/jZmjKf
https://ibb.co/kKD3C0
https://ibb.co/dYDs5L
https://ibb.co/nwkBzf
https://ibb.co/cbn25L
https://ibb.co/i9nAQL
https://ibb.co/js4PkL
https://ibb.co/dXL8C0
As i said, i didn't use the camera of smartphone so much so probably these shots sucks :silly:
I used the auto mode on both as Note 4 doesn't have the pro mode and also i don't know how to use it on OnePlus 6T.
Well, there is also a port of the google camera for OP6t, I have to try it too, maybe i could take some better shots with it.
Hope this evening i can take some shots with low light and even try the night mode, i will update here if i can
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My Friend, you are driving a Model A, it's cool to look back on but this is a modern Corvette, AKA, a performance value able to whoop phones costing twice as much even if it is missing a few Gucci features. I type that having sent the Pixel 3 XL back and buying this phone instead.
The Note 4 was a little before Samsung really started getting good with their cameras, I'm not saying it was bad, I had one and in the day it was great but they got quite a bit more serious a couple iterations later and it shows; their stuff is top notch now. The 6T on the other hand is not top notch now, it's a second tier camera and you can really see this at night where the 6T camera is a fair bit more noise. In the day it's not bad at all though outside of pushing too much contrast outdoors in HDR; the picture will almost invariably turn out with a bright sunny sky looking darker than the reality. Overall though I doubt you will find the camera a downgrade. Portrait mode is actually useful for more than portraits, for example it can make a picture of something like a statue at a museum pop out of the background and it's a nice effect for such photos.
Performance wise this phone is going to be a whole new world of slick, no rom can make up for vastly more computing power elsewhere and you're going to feel it every time you pick up the phone and manipulate the GUI. You're also going to appreciate the little things that OnePlus has injected into the mostly stockish experience. You'll find that OnePlus tends to be an enjoyable ownership experience stock, they are the type of phone that grows on you. Dont want stock you can run dead reliable stockish roms, alternatively, greatly altered AOSP runs which may or may not be , ahem, dead reliable. But that's all part of the fun.
One thing you're going to notice is that the aspect ratio is comparatively sucktacular. The tall thin thing is great for girls but I would much rather have the older aspect ratios. It's annoying as hell when you're surfing the internet in landscape and the website header scrolls down as you scroll down because it can block as much as half the screen and with these thinner aspect ratios that doesn't leave much wihch sometimes making surfing a pain. I'd totally jump on a browser which blocked that behavior, also a phone that went back to the older aspect ratio but I'm digressing. You may not be pleased with the change, all I'm saying.
Minutia... Duel sim is an interesting capability allowing you to ditch a separate work phone, buy data from one carrier, voice and text from another, etc. I think more people would take advantage of it if they gave it a try. You'll be shedding your unholy attachment to chargers and day by day the anxiety you feel when getting too far from a power source is going to go diminish. How much you miss the S-pen will depend on how much you used it. You indicate that was seldom so it shouldln't be a problem. While you may be stepping away from many features I think like most you probably only used a small percentage of Samsung bloat and you're not actually giving up something you never used anyways. The feature thing is not so big as some make out.
All in all I think you're being silly. I don't mean that in a bad way, I mean you've clearly become much attached to what is an ancient device in cell phone terms and your attachment is clouding your judgement. New phones are substantially better in almost every way, I would be surprised if you aren't very impressed with whatever new device you decide to buy.

MrSickle said:
I've definitely compared what I would be giving up to what I would be gaining. My Sprint GN4 has been unlocked to work with domestic GSM (I have Cricket wireless now) and I have no LTE, and probably missing a few of the used frequencies (although I have never really checked). I love the screen and the camera on the GN4, but I'm stuck on Marshmallow and no security updates. I've tried Lineage OS both Nougat and Oreo, and both have so many bugs, it's not worth the headache. Not to mention it's getting harder to find batteries for it. Most I find now are "new" but end up being used. The GN4 never really did have that great of battery life, so that's one of the things that makes me want to switch to something else. Not that I'm a heavy user, but when you start using the video and taking lots of pics on the GN4, the battery tends to drain quickly. And I was hoping I would get Android Auto to work without having to plug and unplug it several times for it to connect (It's done it on Marshmallow and Lineage OS). It's almost as if it's not loading the applications fast enough for the handshake with the head unit.
I would miss my SD Card slot, that's why I was looking at the 256GB Oneplus 6T model.
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I loved my Note5 but having passed on the $500 trade in on the T-Mo Note 9 promo (still too expensive), I figured the $300 back on it for the 6T was too good to pass up. But I had many of the same concerns as you - I absolutely loved the screen on the Note5 and the picture taking quality, along with things like the headphone jack and wireless charging. But I bit the bullet because no more security updates for the Note5, no band 71, and I did notice that *maybe* Google apps were running a bit slower than they used to (figured maybe they were starting to be optimized for newer processors). But the phone was still buttery smooth otherwise.
I'm glad I did it though. It just seems so much faster, and that's saying something because I felt my Note5 was generally pretty fast.
The battery life is freaking phenomenal. That's the only reason I haven't missed the wireless charging. The screen is as good as my Note5, but the auto-brightness is not as "perfect" as it was on the Note. I read there is a tweak coming for that, but it hasn't hit the T-Mo version yet.
@krabman has it so so right with the aspect ratio. Sucktacular is a perfect way of stating it. It makes one-handed use very difficult because of how tall it is. But you get used to that part of it. Landscape is definitely less effective.
As for the pictures, I think it's kind of hit or miss. The low light is definitely better, and bright daylight is great, but I'm not convinced photos in moderate lighting is as good. I would still bite on the phone though. The prices they're getting for Samsung flagships these days are ridiculous. If you have other questions, let me know. Cheers.

Hi, I have the same dilemma and read the post, did you upgrade to op6t and have a better experience with it?