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Engadget review - it's up

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/htc-evo-4g-review/
Wrap-up
Let us be crystal clear: we love this phone. Nay, we adore it. But the fact remains that it's still very much an Android device -- which means that if you don't like Android now, odds are good that even Android executed on the most amazing hardware to date won't do much to change your opinion of it. You've also got to be concerned about upgradeability; Froyo is almost certainly around the corner now, and HTC hasn't done anything to suggest it's able to push Sense-powered updates in a timely fashion.
That said, this is truly one of the best smartphones ever made, and even spotty 4G -- a reality of a young technology that's going to take years to properly build out -- probably won't do much to hamper your enjoyment of this thing. It's reasonable to assume that phones like the EVO will ultimately come to every carrier over the next few months... but hey, if you jumped ship for Sprint to pick up this monster, we wouldn't be able blame you.
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Highlights:
-battery life seems robust
-screen seems as nice as the AMOLED on the nexus one
-HD video recording ok, not spectacular
This is going to be one solid phone. And yeah, I know engadget is not the end-all be-all of reviews, but a lot of people sure are going to be reading it as their audience is huge.
So the two weeks of waiting is now going to seem like 5 months, DAMN I want this phone. Can't wait for the first custom ROM . . .

**** i was just about to post this haha, reading now so excited!

was just about to my self, damn you!

The upgradeability issue is really the only major point that is preventing me from pre-ordering. I mean, how long is it going to be until Sense phones get 2.2? Months? It took several months for phones to get 2.1 I don't want to wait months for the supposed speed advantages that 2.2 brings.

I didn't wait months on my hero. Why did you?
Also that video is very disappointing. I don't understand why HTC cameras suck compared to what Apple uses but they need to fix it.

the video review was horrible.

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the video review was horrible.
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I disagree, I think it was one of the better reviews i've seen.

Likes & Dislikes
Likes:
1. Huge screen, thinner than my current TP2
2. Kickstand - seriously, a phone has to come with some serious balls if it has a kickstand
3. 2.1 + sense = customizable, as opposed to boring iPhone OS
4. HQ Youtube
5. Engadget's review indicates a good battery life, certainly better than i expected - several hours as a 4g hotspot?! After a couple of hours of heavy use?!?!
6. If you watched Engadget's video review, it is snappy as hell, very responsive; only lag was when turning on 4g radio.
7. Review indicates good shutter response with photos - TP2 is annoyingly slow to take a photo.
Dislikes:
1. Will have to wait 4 months for 4g (and that's according to Sprint) in my area
2. Camera lens flush with bezel, which means scratches, which sucks.
3. Mandatory accessories, like a GPS-style car dash mount and HDMI cable, will rape my wallet.
4. Video calling could not be tested in time for the review, which is a major feature for me. Hopefully Skype releases something for Android for video calls. 3g bandwidth is sufficient for Skype video calls, as i do it all the time from my embedded VZ card on my laptop. Maybe 'Skype HD for Android'? Has a nice ring to it, eh?
What does everyone else think about the review? Either way, I am sold on this device.

khov07 said:
Likes:
1. Huge screen, thinner than my current TP2
2. Kickstand - seriously, a phone has to come with some serious balls if it has a kickstand
3. 2.1 + sense = customizable, as opposed to boring iPhone OS
4. HQ Youtube
5. Engadget's review indicates a good battery life, certainly better than i expected - several hours as a 4g hotspot?! After a couple of hours of heavy use?!?!
6. If you watched Engadget's video review, it is snappy as hell, very responsive; only lag was when turning on 4g radio.
7. Review indicates good shutter response with photos - TP2 is annoyingly slow to take a photo.
Dislikes:
1. Will have to wait 4 months for 4g (and that's according to Sprint) in my area
2. Camera lens flush with bezel, which means scratches, which sucks.
3. Mandatory accessories, like a GPS-style car dash mount and HDMI cable, will rape my wallet.
4. Video calling could not be tested in time for the review, which is a major feature for me. Hopefully Skype releases something for Android for video calls. 3g bandwidth is sufficient for Skype video calls, as i do it all the time from my embedded VZ card on my laptop. Maybe 'Skype HD for Android'? Has a nice ring to it, eh?
What does everyone else think about the review? Either way, I am sold on this device.
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You do not need a expensive car mount, just get a cheap one, **** works the exact same way. Also, an hdmi cord is far from mandatory.

Only mandatory things I need is a car charger, wall charger, and usb cable

khov07 said:
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3. Mandatory accessories, like a GPS-style car dash mount and HDMI cable, will rape my wallet.
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http://www.amazon.com/Hdmi-Feet-Sup...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1274350210&sr=8-1
$2.50 for a six foot HDMI cable. That isn't exactly breaking the bank.

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http://www.amazon.com/Hdmi-Feet-Sup...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1274350210&sr=8-1
$2.50 for a six foot HDMI cable. That isn't exactly breaking the bank.
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We need a Type D micro HDMI cable, not a regular type A or mini Type C. That cable won't work.

Aridon said:
I didn't wait months on my hero. Why did you?
Also that video is very disappointing. I don't understand why HTC cameras suck compared to what Apple uses but they need to fix it.
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That's not the point. Rooting my own phone is fine, but if my mom has this phone, I don't want to deal with roms and rooting with her phone and fixing any issues that come up. You should not have to wait months for an official version update for Android.

OK, forgot to mention the car charger.
But HDMI cable is definitely mandatory - who else can plug-in their CELL PHONE into an HDTV for 720p playback? Geez, what's the point of having this device if you can't show it off!
I recall at a Sprint/HTC/Microsoft launch event of the TP2, the rep's plugged in their TP2's directly into a laptop to show off the capability of running a PowerPoint presentation from the device - like anyone plugs in their smartphones to PC's to say, 'check it out, i'm running a PP presentation from this thing'. Good thing the slides were nothing but text.
If the Evo's HDMI port's are 'standard', then I should be able to find an appropriate cable anywhere. HDMI cables that cost $30-$50 at Best Buy i can get for less than ten bucks elsewhere, same brand, same length.
Does anyone know what type of HDMI cable would be required?

If it's some sort of proprietary cable, at launch you can probably only get it from the carrier, which does rape customers with accessories.
Hopefully it's a 'standard' cable.

aldo37 said:
That's not the point. Rooting my own phone is fine, but if my mom has this phone, I don't want to deal with roms and rooting with her phone and fixing any issues that come up. You should not have to wait months for an official version update for Android.
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Just search for "mini HDMI cable" on Amazon and you'll get plenty of hits for cables under $10. Some way under $10. I would post links, but my newbie status prevents me from doing so.
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My bad. The mini HDMI cable is NOT what you want for the EVO 4G. It should be an HDMI cablewith a micro (Type D) connector. Sorry for the mis-information.

I found this one for $15
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/68786-0003/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuDGvNOpmBhkbvASizaogqN

mini hdmi cable at amazon for under 5 bucks shipped to you. Same cable is 69.99 at bestbuy. also you could just carry a HDMI to mini HDMI converter cable with you

Just remember it needs to be a TYPE-D mini hdmi cable.

Any other items?
OK, what about the rest of the review? Any other comments?
I noticed no mention of the digital compass, FM radio, or call quality/functionality.

[Q] HTC Dream vs Nokia 5800

Hi guys!
I had (well stiill have it somewhere) an old HTC wizard and i loved it, XDAdevs helped me a lot with it but well, i needed and upgrade so I bought a Nokia 5800XM. Im happy with it, but now I have the opportunity to change it for an HTC dream, and Id really like to go back to HTC and I dont like symbian very much, Id like to give droid a try.
Yes, I did use the search, i thought there would be some thread like this (since they are similar devices and were released very close) but I couldnt find any.
So, I did comparisons between their specs, and for what i see, the main differences are, dream has qwerty keyboard (big plus, i dont like touch keyboards), capacitive screen (so i guess it means multitouch, vs 5800s resistive), 500something mhz and 192mb ram (5800= 128 ram 400something processor, not big difference but it is something) and hmmm, dont know i got lost.
The 5800 is a bit smaller, has a better screen (360x640 16M, vs Dreams 320x480 65K), FM radio, 3.5 jack (i dont know what kind of plug the dream uses, i would like to know please), TV out, more battery time, better camera (carl zeiss, flash (i use it as a flashlight and works really good), and secondary camera for videocall).. and i think thats it.
Now, you guys, as users, what would you recommend? well if im asking here i guess most of you would go for the dream, but please, tell me ANYTHING, EVERYTHING i should know before making the swap..
is accelerometer good? is GPS good? (my 5800 works fine, but it takes 10 minutes to find satellites so it makes it kind of useless for short trips through the city, it might be because im in Argentina tho)
what about music/video playback? build quality?
If you think i forgot something, or that there is anything i should know before going through with the swap, please let me know! also when im doing the exchange if i decide to go through with it, what should i check is ok and test so i dont get scammed with a broken device?
Sorry if its too long, hope you read it, and that you would help me! Im counting on you guys
Thanks!

You can have the most advanced hardware in the world, but with crap software, it is still junk. Dream is BY FAR the superior.
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capacitive screen (so i guess it means multitouch, vs 5800s resistive)
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Capacitive does NOT mean "multitouch". It means it has a HARD surface designed for use with your fingers. Resistive is a SOFT surface requiring (for proper use) a stylus.
FM radio, 3.5 jack (i dont know what kind of plug the dream uses, i would like to know please), TV out, more battery time, better camera (carl zeiss, flash (i use it as a flashlight and works really good), and secondary camera for videocall).. and i think thats it.
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There is no fm radio, the 3.5 headphone jack is available if you buy a converter from HTC's weird almost-USB plug, there is no tv out (can't think of a single reason you'd want this....), all phone cameras suck -- **ALL**.
Now, you guys, as users, what would you recommend? well if im asking here i guess most of you would go for the dream, but please, tell me ANYTHING, EVERYTHING i should know before making the swap..
is accelerometer good?
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Yes.
is GPS good? (my 5800 works fine, but it takes 10 minutes to find satellites so it makes it kind of useless for short trips through the city, it might be because im in Argentina tho)
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The GPS is good... if you do NOT have a DATA NETWORK CONNECTION, it can take a while to connect. WITH a data network connection, you get assisted GPS and very fast locks.
what about music/video playback?
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Hardware accelerated.
build quality?
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Haven't broken mine yet in near 2 years, so must be ok....
If you think i forgot something, or that there is anything i should know before going through with the swap, please let me know! also when im doing the exchange if i decide to go through with it, what should i check is ok and test so i dont get scammed with a broken device?
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Make sure it turns on and boots up. If it gets stuck rather than booting up, then it could have been bricked. Some people will do stupid things, like installing 1.33.2005 SPL and end up with a non-functional device.

thank you! thats all im looking for, some reassurement
Make sure it turns on and boots up. If it gets stuck rather than booting up, then it could have been bricked. Some people will do stupid things, like installing 1.33.2005 SPL and end up with a non-functional device.
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heh yeah i know, i mean some device specific stuff like.. with my old wizard, the miniUSB soldering was very weak, and also the buttons..
You can have the most advanced hardware in the world, but with crap software, it is still junk. Dream is BY FAR the superior.
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true.
Capacitive does NOT mean "multitouch". It means it has a HARD surface designed for use with your fingers. Resistive is a SOFT surface requiring (for proper use) a stylus.
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but with a capacitive multitouch can be achieved by software, whilst imposible with a resistive.. or well thats my guessing Dream is multitouch right?
There is no fm radio, the 3.5 headphone jack is available if you buy a converter from HTC's weird almost-USB plug, there is no tv out (can't think of a single reason you'd want this....), all phone cameras suck -- **ALL**.
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yeah i already have those converters in my wishlist, but i think that it will come with one. TV out is not of great use thats true, but it is a cool feature to display pictures and videos taken with the device, and also you can watch a movie or something (not the best quality but can be handy at times).
Yeah, all phone cameras suck, but I like to capture the moment and upload it on facebook to share with friends, and even if the quality is not the best, you can at least distinguish whats happening in the picture, even in clubs at night. also the app to use the flash leds as a flashlight is really usefull, but well i guess i could use a white screen app for that.
Haven't broken mine yet in near 2 years, so must be ok....
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thats really good to hear!
Again, thanks a lot!

jinxie said:
but with a capacitive multitouch can be achieved by software, whilst imposible with a resistive.. or well thats my guessing Dream is multitouch right?
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Incorrect on all accounts.
Dream is NOT multitouch -- not really, except with some nutty hacks that *kinda* work.
And your idea about multitouch being impossible with resistive... well my ASUS T91MT tablet/netbook would disagree with you. It has a resistive multitouch panel.
yeah i already have those converters in my wishlist, but i think that it will come with one.
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Highly unlikely that it will "come with" one. They did NOT ship with those converters from the factory, and not many people bother with them.... you know, with wired headsets being totally obsolete in favor of bluetooth.
Yeah, all phone cameras suck, but I like to capture the moment and upload it on facebook to share with friends, and even if the quality is not the best, you can at least distinguish whats happening in the picture, even in clubs at night.
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The camera works not too bad all things considered. I caught some pictures of a fox snooping around my house a few months ago, turned out nice, but taken outdoors in daylight. LED flashes don't work well -- they just don't give you the same kind of output that a proper flash will, so trying to use it in a dark and psychedelic place won't be yielding very good of results.
also the app to use the flash leds as a flashlight is really usefull, but well i guess i could use a white screen app for that.
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Just turning the display ON in a pinch works OK. I wired up a circuit breaker panel that way once.... however, if you want a flashlight, you should probably buy a flashlight.

lbcoder said:
Incorrect on all accounts.
Dream is NOT multitouch -- not really, except with some nutty hacks that *kinda* work.
And your idea about multitouch being impossible with resistive... well my ASUS T91MT tablet/netbook would disagree with you. It has a resistive multitouch panel.
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I got it all wrong then :$
lbcoder said:
Highly unlikely that it will "come with" one. They did NOT ship with those converters from the factory, and not many people bother with them.... you know, with wired headsets being totally obsolete in favor of bluetooth.
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yeah but i think the guy has one.. bt headsets are expensive here in the 3rd world...
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The camera works not too bad all things considered. I caught some pictures of a fox snooping around my house a few months ago, turned out nice, but taken outdoors in daylight. LED flashes don't work well -- they just don't give you the same kind of output that a proper flash will, so trying to use it in a dark and psychedelic place won't be yielding very good of results.
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should be enough then
lbcoder said:
Just turning the display ON in a pinch works OK. I wired up a circuit breaker panel that way once.... however, if you want a flashlight, you should probably buy a flashlight.
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yeah but i wont be carrying a flashlight with me all the time lol
Thanks!

jinxie said:
yeah but i wont be carrying a flashlight with me all the time lol
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You should pick up a keyring flashlight like this:
http://www.sourcinggate.com/kaisaiw...ht-led-lamp-mini-size-keying-blue-p-7359.html

Just some words upon the topic: HTC Dream last official firmware is Android 1.6 Donut - it has no multitouch feature. But you can quite easily install Android 2.2 Froyo (CyanogenMOD e.g.) - it has such functionality. As the example, i can say that while navigating through picture gallery you can zoom in and out the image with two fingers movement - and it really works...
GPS: it takes one or two minutes outdoors to catch the satellites without AGPS.
Audioconverter HTC ExtUSB -> 3,5 audiojack costs $5 at ebay.com (item id 335ea04db3 e.g., sorry, no link due to new users policy of xda forum).

CrusaderNN said:
Just some words upon the topic: HTC Dream last official firmware is Android 1.6 Donut - it has no multitouch feature. But you can quite easily install Android 2.2 Froyo (CyanogenMOD e.g.) - it has such functionality. As the example, i can say that while navigating through picture gallery you can zoom in and out the image with two fingers movement - and it really works...
GPS: it takes one or two minutes outdoors to catch the satellites without AGPS.
Audioconverter HTC ExtUSB -> 3,5 audiojack costs $5 at ebay.com (item id 335ea04db3 e.g., sorry, no link due to new users policy of xda forum).
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thanks for replying, i already have my dream!
if a "normal" person asked me what i would recommend, i would suggest they get the 5800.
me? im happy with my g1, i just need to find the right rom for me and also a high capacity non-extended battery. im getting one of those adapters this weekend

Hi jinxie
Have you got your new battery? seems like the 1700mAh battery is the largest that conforms to the original form factor.
For myself, I'm thinking of going with a remote that has a 3.5mm headphone port, probably HTC RC E100, instead of one of those multi port USB adapters.
I'm curious to know which ROM you went with?

hey!
i am just ordering the battery right now.. but intl delivery sucks big time for latin america.. so I will tell you in a month lol
about the adapter, i wanted it because the guy who i made the trade with forgot to give me the headphones that come with the device, but now i have them, and i must say im impressed, despite the looks they fit really well (and thats an issue for me, headphones often fall from my ears, but not these), and sound quality is great, even music with heavy bass sounds good, so i think im gonna stick with these for a while..
and about the rom, im open to suggestions, havent found what im looking for yet, CM6 didnt work for me, im currently using biffmod but not happy with it neither, i wanted to try superF, but im not sure if all the issues it had are fixed yet, also i was waiting for the OTA release, so there must be some new stuff now, but actually what i was really looking for was an equivalent for the dream of the milestone's eclairless, i want the most RAM available i can get without the hack (im rethinking that), im really sick of FCs.
i might flash something today as i came to XDA today to look for a ROM, hope i find sth interesting.. what are you using?

I broke my last dream going from CM6.0.0 to biff's. I did manage to get another second hand dream, in good condition, of craig's list and i'm going to chill on rooting for now.
So, did you order a battery that requires a special back cover? For myself, I ordered the 1700mAh battery, just because I really like my case and I wouldn't be able to use my case with one of the super sized batteries that change the form factor.
I really miss having the music controls on the lockscreen and I can't seem to get that feature,at least for free, on cupcake with the stock music app, so I ordered a remote with headphones because, the stock HTC headphones, though sound awesome but are too big for my ears, and keep falling out. With this remote, since it has a 3.5mm jack, I should be able to use my favorite earbuds from sony, that is if I don't like the ones that come with my order.
I attached a picture of the remote / headphones
The most annoying thing I'm finding, is only having sixty megs or so, for apps, and not being able to remove the stock stuff included that I don't use, like Quickoffice, and such.

yeah i saw that remote, looks cool, but i heard that it might not work depending on the rom youre using.. or sth like that, look it up here in the accesories forum..
how did you "break" it? didnt you just brick it? im sure theres some way to recover it.. but tell me how you did it because i dont want to do the same.
still havent flashed anything new yet, since with the low bat life i get im not using the phone that much, but i might try the new cyanogen 6.1.. but im not sure yet..
btw yes i also ordered the 1700mah, the pohne is big and heavy as it is, with an extended battery i might aswell buy a netbook :/
chences are that you will get your bat way before i get mine, so tell me how much more juice you get from it!
edit: so finally today i flashed chromatic 3.9.1.1 (eclair)
so far so good, very fast, i changed adw launcher for launcher pro, now i want to remove all the extra stuff i dont need/use. then lets see how it goes with all my apps loaded, lets give it a few days

here's my post from the CM forum: regarding my broken Dream. I believe there is a JTAG solution, but I figured just get another used for cheap instead of taking the nonbooting dream apart, buying the necessary equipment, learning how to fix it, or getting someone else to, etc. now I'm using it as an extra charger.
The remote I order wasn't the one I really wanted, but it's coming with the earbuds I prefer, instead of the stock ones that are way too big for my ears.
If I still have this phone, I might get one of the 2850mAh batteries just to see if I can get a full days use on a single charge. But I'm thinking of getting a HTC Desire Z from bell off contract, and using it with rogers.

How is the IR blaster and the QuickRemote feature?

I am curious how the LG G2 IR blaster works as a remote control compared to the GS4 and HTC One? Is it very responsive to turning on your TV? What about for DVD/Bluray players or Air conditioners?

My good friend has an S4 and it works identical to his. Pretty much have to point the phone directly at the IR sensor. But that can also depend on the device you are controlling. But i do know the built in app, quick remote is a great app and has worked with every device I have currently. Tvs, sounds systems, dish, etc
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Xbox as a DVD player in app, my pana plasma, my Yamaha receiver, pretty much everything but my myth box. Admittedly, I haven't put in any time trying my myth box.
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it's pretty bad. there's absolutely no range. you have to literally be standing directly in front of what you're using.. not off to the side whatsoever. the gs4 had better range and angles.
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S4 works from any angle.. Tried and tested

jayochs said:
it's pretty bad. there's absolutely no range. you have to literally be standing directly in front of what you're using.. not off to the side whatsoever. the gs4 had better range and angles.
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Interesting. The LG G2's IR blaster looks like the same size as the GS4 but way smaller than the HTC One. I don't get why it would have range or angle issues compared to the GS4.

Doesn't handle complex remotes from what I've seen so far. Tried to add a WMC remote and that was fail-tastic.

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it's pretty bad. there's absolutely no range. you have to literally be standing directly in front of what you're using.. not off to the side whatsoever. the gs4 had better range and angles.
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Doesn't handle complex remotes from what I've seen so far. Tried to add a WMC remote and that was fail-tastic.
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Those are precisely my observations with the Verizon G2:
Windows Media Center 7 is next to impossible to control unless I am nearly touching the IR receiver.
My Panasonic V10 plasma is also next to impossible to control unless I am 2-3 feet from the IR receiver.
I can't get my Denon AVR to control at all.
Looks like I'm sticking with Ceton's media center app and my harmony one for a while longer.

Anyone try a different IR app?

Awesome
I had the S4 before and I love the remote on the G2. It's more basic but on my stuff it's faster and doesn't have all the watch on junk I don't care about. Also you can access it from the notification bar from anywhere and you can use it on the lock screen even with a pass code.

I find that it works, but like others have mentioned you need a pretty good direct line of sight. I have it set up for my Sony TV, Sony Blu-Ray, Pioneer Receiver and my Xbox. TBH, I haven't tested how well the xbox controlls work, but I had to manually program it using a different Xbox remote that I already had. Based on previous use w/ a physical Xbox remote, the IR sensor in the Xbox is pretty crappy, I don't expect the G2 to be any better. Bottom line: It's convenient at times, and annoying at others. total wash.

Thanks for all the responses. I don't mind that I need to be line of sight in order to use the remote control feature because who honestly is not facing the TV or what not when they are using the remote. These IR blasters are a new thing on smartphones so I am sure future generations will be better.

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Thanks for all the responses. I don't mind that I need to be line of sight in order to use the remote control feature because who honestly is not facing the TV or what not when they are using the remote. These IR blasters are a new thing on smartphones so I am sure future generations will be better.
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I was excited to try out the IR blaster on my new verizon lg g2 and was very disappointed as well. It's not that you have to be facing what you are controlling but you need to be really close. My couch is probably 8-12 feet back from the tv depending on where you sit, and it doesn't even come close to controlling anything unless i reach all the way out and lift my arm all the way up so the angle is perfectly pointing at the device. It's incredibly awkward and a complete waste of time. Oh and that is if i'm at the closest distance, anything further and it doesn't work at all no matter how I angle it. Don't get me wrong I love this phone but the IR blaster is pretty much useless. Maybe mine is defective but even during setup when i was standing 4 feet away I had to click multiple times for it to do anything. I read a lot of reviews on the device and didn't see anyone complain about it until I started digging.. All the major sites just raved that it had an IR blaster and that it worked similar to the other recent phones that have come out with IR blasters.. No mention that it has horrible range at all. I only found this thread and 1 others talking about bad range.

Could someone post the APKs? I accidentally deleted mine when I was uninstalling all of the bloat.

Same problem here...totally useless. I have 4 different brands of tv' sand I only can get it to work on one of them. Will not work with any directv boxes. Total crap.

zhzaen said:
Same problem here...totally useless. I have 4 different brands of tv' sand I only can get it to work on one of them. Will not work with any directv boxes. Total crap.
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don't know about the negative comments but it seems to work great in my house Samsung hd tv sony hi fi and humax set top box hd all work excellently ? no problems whatsoever so not sure why maybe because im using it in a small room idk but ive no negative things to say about it

Works with my directv boxes and my Samsung tv. The drawback is you need to be close or our won't work.
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I hate it to be honest because it doesn't work half the time before root and after root. That's the only thing I miss from my s4.
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IR blaster

N5 didnt have it, although kitkat supported it. I thought google will make it norm with next nexus.

devesh38 said:
N5 didnt have it, although kitkat supported it. I thought google will make it norm with next nexus.
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Well you thought wrong, apparently.

devesh38 said:
N5 didnt have it, although kitkat supported it. I thought google will make it norm with next nexus.
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I think that they're in the same boat as me in thinking it more as a novelty feature. My notes have had it as well as my G3 but they're all pretty weak on the software side and the blaster is always finicky on range and the angle at which you point it. If you want a real universal get a normal remote with a proper blaster. Unless you're trying to show off or screw around with the TVs at the bar, it's kind of pointless.

I use mine alllllll the time. I have 2 kids and 2 dogs that love to play hide and seek with them lol. I literally have all my TV's, blue ray/dvd players, cable boxes, and sound systems programed on my Note 3 and love it! I also travel (I literally am gone 6 months+ a year) and much prefer my phone over most hotels eco-remotes. I would have loved to seen this as a feature personally as well.

The best is using it at sports bars and start turning off their tv

If there a device you can connect to via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi that will convert to infrared to control TVs?
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If there a device you can connect to via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi that will convert to infrared to control TVs?
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The Peel is the only one I know of.

biggiestuff said:
If there a device you can connect to via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi that will convert to infrared to control TVs?
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Logitech Harmony Smart Control
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Control-Smartphone-Simple/dp/B00BQ5RYI4
I got it today
Works well but app is iffy

Honestly I love IR blasters and it's a shame this phone doesn't come with one! :crying:

Yeah an IR blaster would have been nice, it is actually quite useful.
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That's one thing I forgot about that I'll miss from my g2. I didn't use it often but when I did it was handy. (It's fun shutting the projectors off in classes that are boring lol.
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I liked having one on my HTC One M7 but barely used it after the first week. I also had one on my GS4 Active, but the remote software was nowhere near as good as HTC's so I never used it. It's not something that I've missed since getting rid of those phones. It would be cool to have, but it's more novelty than anything.

I have it on my Note 3. I used it once, much like multi window, to be able to say oh neato. Then never used it again. I'm glad they didn't waste time or money putting it into the N6.

There was a funding available for an IR blaster that plugs into the 3.5mm headphone jack on any phone.
http://www.pozible.com/project/181262
Just going to be an extra thing to carry with you if you're going to miss not having it built in the phone.
http://www.hi-remote.com/

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There was a funding available for an IR blaster that plugs into the 3.5mm headphone jack on any phone.
http://www.pozible.com/project/181262
Just going to be an extra thing to carry with you if you're going to miss not having it built in the phone.
http://www.hi-remote.com/
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Says only for apple devices. But that looks really nice. If I really missed it I'd buy one but probably won't miss it much
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Says only for apple devices. But that looks really nice. If I really missed it I'd buy one but probably won't miss it much
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No it's for both Android and iOS.
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Though I can't seem to find anything regarding their app on the Play Store.

Once I purchased smart ir remote in the play store, this feature is a must have. I will stick with my GPE M8 for now. May get a Nexus 6 off swappa in a few months

There ARE alternatives out there. You just need to search "3.5mm IR" on Google/Google Images and you'll find some methods. I found these as well.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=151442539783&alt=web
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=151430164069&alt=web
http://m.tinydeal.com/product/35mm-infrared-cellphone-remote-control-for-tv-ac-etc-132738

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There ARE alternatives out there. You just need to search "3.5mm IR" on Google/Google Images and you'll find some methods. I found these as well.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=151442539783&alt=web
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=151430164069&alt=web
http://m.tinydeal.com/product/35mm-infrared-cellphone-remote-control-for-tv-ac-etc-132738
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might look into that sennheiser one but do you know of any that connect to your phone via bluetooth or wifi and can transmit IR signal? I'd like to avoid having to attach a device to my phone everytime i want to use the TV. Chromecast can turn on one of my TVs but the other it can't. I wish they'd put a turn off feature in the chromecast.

Interesting that your Chromecast will turn on the TV, but you are looking for a way to turn it off. I've got a smart TV that I can't turn on by Chromecast or otherwise from my phone but I can turn it off!
I recently got a Google cardboard VR package from tinydeal that I was satisfied with. I ordered the emitter from them--it's less than a dollar, with free shipping, so I'm not out too much if it doesn't work out for me!

[Discussion] Moto Mod Ideas

Let's face it, despite it Moto Z family being modular, not a lot of its users are buying mods because of the sheer price and also cheaper solutions to the available mods. Want the speaker mod? A Bluetooth speaker is cheaper. Camera mod, a cheaper DSLR can take better pictures, etc..
Moto may not have the brightest ideas for mods, but we as users and tech enthusiasts might have. Like
a dual camera mod, a wireless charging mod, an e-Ink screen back mod, etc. What's your idea can that really take advantage of the Z's modularity? And let's hope someone from Motorola/Lenovo can make it come true.

Wireless mode already exists. E-ink is good idea! Always on, light for battery, good for reading, even web browsing..
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I think that a SSD drive mod will be spectacular, a portable disk of say 512 Gb in the back of your phone! i will buy that

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I think that a SSD drive mod will be spectacular, a portable disk of say 512 Gb in the back of your phone! i will buy that
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I would prefer sd-card that size. I already have 256 GB, the biggest I've found

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I think that a SSD drive mod will be spectacular, a portable disk of say 512 Gb in the back of your phone! i will buy that
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Yeah with extra battery and a dual speaker would make Moto Z Play a perfect media consumption device. Great for travelling long distances.

I have always wanted a storage mod which allowed for a full backup/restore (without root) of the phone as simply as possible. Slap on the mod and an app launches that allows you to do a backup/restore to the attached mod and it would probably require a tiny linux machine in the mod for an ADB backup. For all the ideas, I recommend getting a Moto Mod Development Kit and seeing what is possible. No need to wait for Motorola to make the mods, anyone can make their own and get them certified by Motorola and be a 3rd Party Moto Mod Maker.

A Mod that adds what the phones should of had to begin with!
Wireless charging.
Ant+ support.
Sure, I would love an e-ink mod. Loved my yotaphone, which had wireless charging and Ant+ support. Any mod should should include these two basic support features that cost pennies.

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Wireless charging.
Ant+ support.
Sure, I would love an e-ink mod. Loved my yotaphone, which had wireless charging and Ant+ support. Any mod should should include these two basic support features that cost pennies.
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The wireless charging mods already since inside the phone is simply impossible because of the strong magnets holding the mods. You could only make pretty much a charging cable that connects to the pins magnetically but then I don't know if that makes too much sense. A mod can charge the phone but the question would be if it is at least as fast as Qi since that is already significantly slower than over cable thanks to quick charging solutions.
An eInk display would sure be an idea. But Ant+ is simply dead. The only company I know that's still riding that dead horse is Samsung.
Otherwise, the camera mod is a good idea, but I'm surprised Hasselblad dared to put their name on it. It's a worse potato cam than what we already have, it doesn't even has any stabilization, the only thing it can deliver is optical zoom. If it would be at least as good as the Google Pixel 2 camera it would be at least worth considering, but that one is really a disgrace for a camera expert as Hasselblad.
And of course, they have to become much cheaper. Asking 25 bucks for a stupid stile mod is a joke. I'm glad I got mine for 10

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Wireless charging.
Ant+ support.
Sure, I would love an e-ink mod. Loved my yotaphone, which had wireless charging and Ant+ support. Any mod should should include these two basic support features that cost pennies.
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About wireless charging. Are you sure you'll love it? For now the technologies of wireless charging is pretty much stuck. Charging is slow & you can't touch the phone.
I prefer use cables, i can play with it even when charging and those turbopower are lightning fast!

A desktop dock (the OneCompute Moto Mod) seemed to be in the works but has not launched yet. That's what I would like to see.

A hifi dac. Or dual hifi dacs. I want an audiophile grade moto mod. A headphone out and maybe rca outs. Finally, aptx-hd for liget bluetooth streaming.

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A hifi dac. Or dual hifi dacs. I want an audiophile grade moto mod. A headphone out and maybe rca outs. Finally, aptx-hd for liget bluetooth streaming.
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Aptx-hd is implemented in upcoming 8.0 update.

Yeah true. I had a zte axon 7 with 8.x and loved the aptx-hd and ldac from Sony. Both were huge improvements.

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Yeah true. I had a zte axon 7 with 8.x and loved the aptx-hd and ldac from Sony. Both were huge improvements.
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Yeah, with good headphones noticeable difference. As well as lossy mp3 compression

I heard from a Module which will make your Moto Z Waterproof and will let you use the device under water. That's it!
I can not post links yet. It means "Waterproof MotoMod" or "Adventure Mod".

Holohelge said:
I heard from a Module which will make your Moto Z Waterproof and will let you use the device under water. That's it!
I can not post links yet. It means "Waterproof MotoMod" or "Adventure Mod".
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like a case? cause the front speaker grill isn't waterproof

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like a case? cause the front speaker grill isn't waterproof
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No, a complete housing to dive with. Similar to action cams. The mod could, for example, have an extra light.

I have some Moto Mod ideas:
- Extra battery with rechargeable battery by solar energy.
- Virtual Reality Headset Mod.
- Style Shell with LED. It will change color when there are new notifications.
- Style Shell with mechanical watches behind.
- A mod can receive radio waves.
- A mod with secondary screen.
Need someone make they come true

malangthang113 said:
I have some Moto Mod ideas:
- Extra battery with rechargeable battery by solar energy.
- Virtual Reality Headset Mod.
- Style Shell with LED. It will change color when there are new notifications.
- Style Shell with mechanical watches behind.
- A mod can receive radio waves.
- A mod with secondary screen.
Need someone make they come true
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- I saw it as startup. Solar panels are not very efficient, unfortunately. And phone is not on the sun enough to gain much
- How your idea should look like?
- Also saw it as startup, maybe is available already
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- Do you mean to listen radio? Not so long time ago, mobile phones had that function built in
- What would be the purpose of secondary screen?

Have one with FM radio and ir blaster and laser rangefinder and night camera.......