Hi all,
do you use the mouse pad f.e. in Chrome browser (other apps as well)? My is working so bad.
Most time its scrolling the page, but I dont want to scroll. And I dont know why its scrolling because I didnt make a double tap or something else.
How do you use it? Is it working fine?
If your page is scrolling, you probably hit the spacebar. It takes getting used too, but it is definitely serviceable.
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If your page is scrolling, you probably hit the spacebar. It takes getting used too, but it is definitely serviceable.
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Ok, what is the right way to scroll? For example how do you scroll down and up in Chrome with mousepad?
You can't. I use the touchscreen or the arrow keys.
Space bar acts same as the dedicated "page down" key. "Page up" key takes you in the other direction. For fine granular line by line scrolling, use the dedicated cursor arrow keys. My Logitech Bluetooth mouse scroll wheel does proportional up and down scrolling.
I wish the onboard touchpad was multitouch and could do scrolling nicely, but it does not at the moment. Fingers crossed it's software fixable.
I use the arrow keys for keyboard scrolling. You might need to install chrome beta instead of the normal version.
I think the hardware supports multi touch, but it might be software related.
If you two finger hold in apps that support it, it does a right click. So it supports multitouch for sure. Major oversight not to have two finger scrolling, but I suspect it will come in time. My understanding is the windows version has it already.
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If you two finger hold in apps that support it, it does a right click. So it supports multitouch for sure. .
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Hi, what Android apps support that? I want to try it. Thanks!
I noticed it in crossover on the yoga book, but I feel like I've used it in other apps previously on other Android devices.
Just now played with the Windows 10 version of the Yoga Book and it's touchpad supports 2 finger scrolling in Windows explorer for sure.
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Just now played with the Windows 10 version of the Yoga Book and it's touchpad supports 2 finger scrolling in Windows explorer for sure.
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Yes, with the Windows Book you can use scrolling with two fingers. But with Android its not possible
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Yes, with the Windows Book you can use scrolling with two fingers. But with Android its not possible
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Such a pity as I know RemixOS flavor of Android supports touchpad 2 finger scroll and pinch to zoom.
Its worth noting too that if you activate the drawing pad you can use the pen to make the drawing pad a giant touch pad.
That's true, and it allows you to "hover" over menus in chrome. Identically to the S-pen on various Samsung Note devices. Makes me wonder why the mouse doesn't support it.
I don't know if I'm the only one to forget, but you can adjust the mouse pointer speed in settings under language and input.
Unlike the Android version at the moment, I found the Win10 Yoga book touchpad implementation also does pinch to zoom. No surprise if all Win 10 modern touchpad multi gestures are there too. I don't expect many people care so much about the omission from Android outside of us Android Yoga Book users.
Thought I'd let you guys know that someone posted a program some guy made to make some minor modifications to the touch-pad (only in Windows 10 though.. ) if you don't like how it feels/works. I also put it in my Megathread.
2 finger scroll works in the latest update!
With the last update to version 170519 the mousepad works mostly perfect.
old thread to me, but if you haven'tchunked it out the window, i found the expalanation - it is designed by lenovo not to work when typing- until you tap the white circle/dot in the middle. once i got that into my brain, it completely removed that aggravation of why it seemingly randomly got stuck.
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Hi, I've been seeing a lot of development for the Touch line of phones and they all have awesome programs for gesturing the capacitive screen.
I really hope Xperia stays popular long enough to have some pro do something like this for the optical stick. Such as using optical stick to zoom in and out; I'd really like to see that functionality in opera, instead of page scrolling.
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Hi, I've been seeing a lot of development for the Touch line of phones and they all have awesome programs for gesturing the capacitive screen.
I really hope Xperia stays popular long enough to have some pro do something like this for the optical stick. Such as using optical stick to zoom in and out; I'd really like to see that functionality in opera, instead of page scrolling.
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Lol. Who uses optical joystick? I tonly comes in ur way when you want to navigate with they hardwarekeys.
optical joystick works better than using finger to scroll in opera mobile. not as good in other browsers
I used to want the option to zoom using the trackpad, however, that has really changed. I use the trackpad to scroll, I keep it set to the fastest setting, and I'm able to flick through menus and opera pages extremely quickly. It works really well for me, I can't imagine not having it...its a pretty good jog dial replacement imo.
We all know that multitouch is capable on the popular G1 and myTouch. Now I was wondering if adding such a feature onto the virtual keyboard is a can-do. All for the sake of exponentially increasing text insertion speed.
I don't see a reason to use multitouch for text input. What should happen if you enter 2 keys at the same time?
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I don't see a reason to use multitouch for text input. What should happen if you enter 2 keys at the same time?
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the point of multi-touch on the vk is to increase the speed of texting meaning u can press a key directly after another without fear of the keys not registering. it really helps when holding the phone sideways because when text i start texting too fast and keys dont register correctly. thats y im still partial to the hard keyboard.
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I don't see a reason to use multitouch for text input. What should happen if you enter 2 keys at the same time?
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The reason for multi-touch is simple... take a look at the iPhone, if you hit one key and then before releasing it hit another it registers both hits. So that way you can type much quicker! Try this on the android/htc/better keyboards and you'll see that if you hit two keys at the same time, it will register a key that is almost always half-way in between the two.
However, I think Google is having a hard-time coding for not simultaneous taps but for timing. Meaning that if you hit both the 'K' and the 'N' keys at the same time while trying to type the word 'KNOW', the software not only has to recognize that 2 keys were hit; but has to resolve which one was hit first or was likely meant to be hit first. So that way, it can say
"hey, he hit the 'K' and the 'N' at virtually the same time; BUT, because he hit the 'K' .00002 seconds before the 'N' I'll put register and display the 'K' before the 'N'"
Multi-touch in the browser is probably not easy to code for but it certainly is much easier than the keyboard because pinching only requires the software to recognize that two fingers are on the screen, not that one was there before the other.
But, I think Google needs to work on the usability of the keyboard first. The screen-size on the magic and keyboard might restrict them somewhat but damn the virtual keyboard layout is verry bad... I always hit the "M" key when trying to hit the "DELETE" key.. And why not auto-popup the keyboard when you enter messaging? and why is there the "smiley" key in messaging? WASTE OF SPACE?!?
I thought the HTC keyboard sorta-of had multi-touch support, no?
How does one "sorta" have multi-touch support?
I would love to see this. My biggest problem is not registering a space in between words because I hit it too quickly and then the autocorrect can't fix the issue. Maybe a 3rd party keyboard developer would be interested in incorporating this into their app?
I believe better keyboard has multi touch.
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I believe better keyboard has multi touch.
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It does not, unfortunately.
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How does one "sorta" have multi-touch support?
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I think I only got it working with the bottom row of keys.
I can't fathom how one would get the Dream/Magic (G1/myTouch3G) to have a fully functional multitouch keyboard. The multitouch capacity of these devices is hackish to say the least; if the horizontal or vertical coordinates of the touched points coincide to within a rather wide range (comparatively speaking) then the device is incapable of registering more than one touch -- and it wouldn't necessarily be /either/ of the points originally touched.
That would seem to me to be a game-breaker.
Unless I misunderstand? Perhaps the Droid or Cliq are different.
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The multitouch capacity of these devices is hackish to say the least; if the horizontal or vertical coordinates of the touched points coincide to within a rather wide range (comparatively speaking) then the device is incapable of registering more than one touch -- and it wouldn't necessarily be /either/ of the points originally touched.
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Reading this got me curious so I went back to Luke Hutchison's blog posts on the matter and played around with his multitouch demo apps here and it looks like there are indeed problems. I then found this post which explains his observations on the matter.
Even with these limitations, though, it's hard to say if there would be much of an issue. I think this "rather wide range" you speak of is small enough. The QWERTY keyboard layout was designed to spread out keys to minimize "jams" of neighboring keys. This works in our favor, making the distance between possible close-to-simultaneous keypresses rather large on average. If I play with the virtual keyboard a little bit, I notice that if my fingers are hitting neighboring keys I don't have problems with simultaneous presses because I have to move my first finger out of the way to make room for the second. I do have unusually large fingers, but give it a try yourself.
Who knows though...it may indeed be too inaccurate.
Also, it looks like there's a similar thread to this one over here.
The trouble, as I understand it, is that you could not touch two points on the same horizontal "read" line of the device, at the same time. You could probably do top row and bottom row as multitouch, but not middle row and anything else. (Assuming three rows total.)
It's not just about touching two keys simultaneously but that if the same capacitors are triggered horizontally, then the device will read this as one -- confused -- input. And if the same capacitors are triggered horizontally, the same will occur.
It is my understanding that the Motorola Milestone's Eclair keyboard is multi-touch. Can anyone confirm that?
i can conform that there is a multi-touch keyboard. Ive actually tested it out. They rebuild the keyboard and made capable of it. I think its called HTC VK keyboard. And yes i can press 2 keys at the same time too.
I have a t mobile Touch pro 2, love the keyboard but i would rather go back to android. Its almost new if anyone is interested let me know in a pm. thanks.
If I'm not mistaken, the HTC Keyboard on the hero has multitouch.
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If I'm not mistaken, the HTC Keyboard on the hero has multitouch.
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sorry but you are mistaken. the hero does not even have real multitouch in the driver. one finger gives a small dot, while a second finger would increase the dot size that is reported from the driver, the bigger the distance between fingers the bigger the dot size. this way the pinch-to-zoom works, but it does not actually detect a second touch.
you can see this with various application that show the touch graphically, for example cracked screen or steamy window.
Then I stand corrected. Just relaying something I heard. But doesn't mulititouch have to be written into the program? Like how Picsay had multitouch on the Droid whereas other apps didn't? Just throwing things out there.
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sorry but you are mistaken. the hero does not even have real multitouch in the driver. one finger gives a small dot, while a second finger would increase the dot size that is reported from the driver, the bigger the distance between fingers the bigger the dot size. this way the pinch-to-zoom works, but it does not actually detect a second touch.
you can see this with various application that show the touch graphically, for example cracked screen or steamy window.
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Dunno about the Hero, but the Eris definitely does have it.
Also- multitouch DOES have to be coded into the application. The driver isn't important at all if the application itself only supports one input.
Interesting new tweet by cyanogen:
@paracycle multitouch is built into keyboardview on eclair. i've backported this for the next CM-4.2 release.
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ok so htc gave us a capacitive screen no stylus anymore. So can someone tell me how for god sake can i scroll down in my notes ? you know this very useful built in app that you can write and view notes sunchronized with outlook. now with my HD2 I cant scroll down in notes. instead when tryinv gestures it insists on marking the text rather than scrolling within it.
There's a scrollbar on the right-hand side of the screen.
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There's a scrollbar on the right-hand side of the screen.
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Thanks. while inside a note it's ineffective, as the scrolling is not seen while it moves. Makes the built in app useless.
I too have this problem. If there are multiple pages to the Notes, scrolling in a smooth manner is not possible.
Is there a fix that allows one to scroll like in Word and other applications?
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when in a note, you can use teh arrows below the standard keyboard to scroll, or if you use swype, jump to the tex edit/arrows page and use those arrows. Not perfect, but works.
Is there an alternative app that reads notes and also updates them to outlook like the builtin notes app?
I rely heavily on notes and it is painful to keep use the scroll bar thing as it's not as smooth as it should be. I find myself trying to make micro movement to move up a little bit!
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Is there an alternative app that reads notes and also updates them to outlook like the builtin notes app?
I rely heavily on notes and it is painful to keep use the scroll bar thing as it's not as smooth as it should be. I find myself trying to make micro movement to move up a little bit!
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Try OneNote Mobile. Its preinstalled in the Start Menu under Office 2010
Honeycomb 3.1 brought us a lot of minor tweaks and fixes, but I'm finding the new Quick Controls in the stock browser really addictive! Holding the tablet in landscape view, it's just soooo easy to slide in my right (or left) thumb and navigate backward, forward, to favorites, or refresh the page. Almost effortless - as if I needed to expend even less energy in the recliner browsing the web
Regardless of the little annoyances (like that infamous keyboard lag in some form boxes), I'm sticking with the stock browser for that feature alone.
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Honeycomb 3.1 brought us a lot of minor tweaks and fixes, but I'm finding the new Quick Controls in the stock browser really addictive! Holding the tablet in landscape view, it's just soooo easy to slide in my right (or left) thumb and navigate backward, forward, to favorites, or refresh the page. Almost effortless - as if I needed to expend even less energy in the recliner browsing the web
Regardless of the little annoyances (like that infamous keyboard lag in some form boxes), I'm sticking with the stock browser for that feature alone.
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Quick controls rock. I love that feature.
The only thing I miss is there doesn't seem to be a way to close/kill a tab if you enable quick controls.
Anyone know how to do this ?
i dont really like it because everytime i go to scroll i always end up poping that thing up instead from the side, u also cant use the slide bar with it which sucks. but each there own its just my own opinion
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Quick controls rock. I love that feature.
The only thing I miss is there doesn't seem to be a way to close/kill a tab if you enable quick controls.
Anyone know how to do this ?
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I just use Quick Controls to open that tab (if it's not already) and then the 'X' to close it ... two thumb clicks
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I just use Quick Controls to open that tab (if it's not already) and then the 'X' to close it ... two thumb clicks
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Doh! I hadn't realised that those keys were + for new tab and x to close tab.
I assumed they were for zoom or something.
Good call
Yeah, I've been using the quick controls, they're great except the tab switching could be better.
I like quick controls when using the device in tablet mode, but it makes it impossible to use the browser when docked using the track pad and keyboard.
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Honeycomb 3.1 brought us a lot of minor tweaks and fixes, but I'm finding the new Quick Controls in the stock browser really addictive! Holding the tablet in landscape view, it's just soooo easy to slide in my right (or left) thumb and navigate backward, forward, to favorites, or refresh the page. Almost effortless - as if I needed to expend even less energy in the recliner browsing the web
Regardless of the little annoyances (like that infamous keyboard lag in some form boxes), I'm sticking with the stock browser for that feature alone.
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been using it since the 3.1 update, absolutely love it... no address bar, no bookmarks, no buttons... love it.
Love it from day one with 3.0 now could they fix the lag!
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I like quick controls when using the device in tablet mode, but it makes it impossible to use the browser when docked using the track pad and keyboard.
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It's not impossible. Just click and hold within a few pixels of the screen edge (either side) then use another finger on the touchpad to navigate around the quick control arc.
Would be cool if the browser would swap back to normal when docked
Always used them with 3.0, loved it. Hate it in 3.1, mainly the way tabs are done. I wish it was like 3.0 quick controls
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Always used them with 3.0, loved it. Hate it in 3.1, mainly the way tabs are done. I wish it was like 3.0 quick controls
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Agreed. 3.0 implementation was much better. Tab management stinks in 3.1 because it's an extra step to switch to a tab and then close it. It also isn't easy to differentiate between tabs as you move your finger up and down the little windows.
The touch input in this device is so bad i have to use my stylus pen to browse webs(i can never touch the back page button on google chrome instead it touches the forward page button instead),close programs(touch the top of the screen and pulling it down never works), opening the charm bar(swiping my finger from the right of the screen to the left never works too).
I tried calibrating it by searching calibrate on the charm bar's search feature but they doesn't work as well.
Any way to fix this? Its getting so annoying because i can't use the touch screen feature at all because its not precise.
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The touch input in this device is so bad i have to use my stylus pen to browse webs(i can never touch the back page button on google chrome instead it touches the forward page button instead),close programs(touch the top of the screen and pulling it down never works), opening the charm bar(swiping my finger from the right of the screen to the left never works too).
I tried calibrating it by searching calibrate on the charm bar's search feature but they doesn't work as well.
Any way to fix this? Its getting so annoying because i can't use the touch screen feature at all because its not precise.
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Dont have one myself, but I played with one at Frys, and I gotta say I didnt see any of these issues at all! Maybe you got a bad one???
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The touch input in this device is so bad i have to use my stylus pen to browse webs(i can never touch the back page button on google chrome instead it touches the forward page button instead),close programs(touch the top of the screen and pulling it down never works), opening the charm bar(swiping my finger from the right of the screen to the left never works too).
I tried calibrating it by searching calibrate on the charm bar's search feature but they doesn't work as well.
Any way to fix this? Its getting so annoying because i can't use the touch screen feature at all because its not precise.
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Make sure your navigation gestures start from the black bezel of the Vaio then onto the touchscreen. You can use the calibration tool, change pen and touch settings, and change double clicking of objects to single tap to make the experience better. I'm not sure if the registry change to make touch more responsive for surface rt applies to your Intel tablet.
I'm with @vinscuzzy on this one... generally speaking I detest Sony products, but this sounds like a defective unit more than anything else. I'm not sure what you mean by "calibration doesn't work as well" (grammar, people: it conveys meaning). but if you can't fix this yourself, I would definitely suggest you take it back to wherever you got it.
When i use the calibration settings whenever i try to touch the cross it shows the input to be slightly on the right. i can't even close apps or use the multitasking. Closing tabs is hard or even clicking on links on google isn't accurate at all.
I bought this machine overseas and it isn't even out in my country so replacing it is too much of a hassle.
I almost considered it. But found there is a problem with the drivers, especially with Photoshop supposedly MS and Sony are using a specific driver but its not compatible with certain apps that use a different format of driver like Photoshop for touch.
The driver developers as far as I'm aware via googling don't seem interested in fixing this issue due to cost and/or it being niche market. Maybe try other software, I hope you don't have faulty system
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