should i bother with the limited selection of roms? which one is also good?
drckml said:
should i bother with the limited selection of roms? which one is also good?
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It's all pretty much the same for me. Just different interface/some customizations, battery life between stock rom and CM13/LineageOS.
I flashed pretty much most of them stock, Cm13, Google Edition, Turbo rom. It depends what you like I think, everyone is different.
I like Cm13 by the Spainish team this tread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/how-to/cm13-0-lex720-team-superluminal-t3523391
I am running this rom I found it good: T.A.R.S-Dev-23S by Steve: http://tars-lepro3.blogspot.com.es/2017/02/tars-23s-beta-dev-para-lepro3-x720.html.
And Turbo rom I flashed few of them maybe the K6 was good, not sure you can still download it as the tread been closed.
7.1 Rom just one available I haven't try it yet. The custom roms are better than stock I think for speed,performance, sound etc.
Lineage or Turbo
drckml said:
should i bother with the limited selection of roms? which one is also good?
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Compared to the overbloated stock, I would also say that all custom roms are an improvement. I started with Cydras google edition, 2 Turbo versions but for the longest time and still am on the official lineage which has it's flaws, but all combined is not far from great.
Imo this could still be consolidated, there are some obviously very skilled developers involved but they do - to me as a noob - not seem to fully benefit from each others discoveries. Why would you need more than one great marshmallow and one great nougat rom(at some point in the future when they manage to get the camera working) which can then, as it always could, be customized to a very far extend?
I hope that at some point they will do some combined version - looking at what different parts and functions some of them managed to exceed expections, if that was combined... Well, I like to dream about it ...
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Hi all,
I have had my one for a while now and have been lurking around the forums for the most part. I have done S-OFF, Rooting, Recovery and many other tweaks. Now that 4.2.2 is hitting the rom scene for us I am wanting to dive into a rom but I am feeling a bit overwhelmed at the options.
Obviously the ROMS fall into 2 categories of sense and vanilla and there is obvious advantages to both sides. I want to try a more factory build so I have been considering flashing the recent dump of the GE One but there are some things like Pie control and custom DPI settings that I very much want to use and would like it if they were baked in rather than needed me to side load.
I am hoping that you all can give me some advice on some good 4.2 Vanilla roms to try out. Maybe Kang, Paranoid, CM... and I know there is a lot of other well known ROM makers around here with ROMS I do not recognize the names of (Carbon, Viper, Revolt). So if you have any recommendations I would love to hear them.
I am on the verge of the GE rom but going to wait for stock 4.2.2 then decide after if that helps
madasahat said:
I am on the verge of the GE rom but going to wait for stock 4.2.2 then decide after if that helps
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Yeah I wouldnt mind waiting but I dont mind flashing back and have been looking forward to trying out stock or AOSP on the one for a while just not sure where the various AOSP roms stand right now as far as ease of use, bugs, and general smoothness.
Just try out a few and see which ones you like
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Just try out a few and see which ones you like
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This.
Once you've got the hang of flashing ROMs and using titanium backup to move your apps across them, you'll have no problem changing between ROMs regularly. Once you find something that works for you, stick with it for a while then see if anything else grabs your attention.
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I am currently using ViperOne ROM, and love it. Its very smooth and offers a huge amount of customization options.
Aside from the above, I also can highly recommend Android Revolution HD, and TrickDroid. Both are very smooth, stable, and have large followings with great dev support right here on XDA. On a side note, Viper and TrickDroid do have close ties from a developer standpoint. Viper is the ROM intended to offer total customization, where as TrickDroid is a more stock ROM.
Either way, Ive tried a lot of ROMs on my One but the above three have really stood out to me.
Hope that helps you in some way. Were pretty lucky in that our device has a lot of excellent devs working with it. :victory:
We generally don't allow best ROM threads or ROM comparison threads because they are usually very subjective. Try them all and choose what you think is the best, not what others think is the best Thread closed.
Ok so cyanogenmod.org got all moto devices listed and they said moto g series getting cyanogen 14.1 but moto g4 plus not anywhere in cyanogenmod.org list:crying:
I hate unofficial buggy ROMs
mayank.bhola1 said:
Ok so cyanogenmod.org got all moto devices listed and they said moto g series getting cyanogen 14.1 but moto g4 plus not anywhere in cyanogenmod.org list:crying:
I hate unofficial buggy ROMs
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Official roms are buggy too if you ever tried nightlies or snapshots. And we will see, maybe official will come until cm statet it comes not
They didn't say all G family, they post this list:
falcon, peregrine, titan, thea, osprey
They are 1st 2nd and 3rd Gen.
FlaminisRex said:
They didn't say all G family, they post this list:
falcon, peregrine, titan, thea, osprey
They are 1st 2nd and 3rd Gen.
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If it's not in the list, it will be added, thats possible.
@mayank.bhola1:
No need to scared and say it will never come. If you didn't have a proof, don't open such scaring threads "no official cyanogen 14.1" that's really annoying to others, because some people trust it and won't buy the device maybe(just an opinion)
I avoid anything cm based. Always worse on battery life.
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I avoid anything cm based. Always worse on battery life.
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That's not true that all cm based has "always" worse battery life. On my galaxy's I got more battery compared to Samsung roms(official or mod) and also on my other devices cm gives me more battery life then stock, even to aosp! Maybe you encountered bad experiences, but it totally depends on the device tree, drivers, modem, source, etc etc... And the knowledge of the dev :angel:
My experience with CM was that a lot of the features added where useless to me and they just added battery drain and new bugs. And when a bug was fixed in a nightly, there was a good chance that another two bugs would pop up.
Not cool if you really need to use your phone as a phone. Maybe OK if you don't have a job or you stay at home all the time.
SoNic67 said:
My experience with CM was that a lot of the features added where useless to me and they just added battery drain and new bugs. And when a bug was fixed in a nightly, there was a good chance that another two bugs would pop up.
Not cool if you really need to use your phone as a phone. Maybe OK if you don't have a job or you stay at home all the time.
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So you concluding that we must stick to stock ROMs ??
Depends of what you do for living... and if need a reliable phone line for that.
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Depends of what you do for living... and if need a reliable phone line for that.
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I knew a device which stock cos rom is the hell on earth(random reboots, bugs, freezes) compared to cm and nearly all people saying wow after flashing cm instead of staying on stock. CM is widely available for devices and always a chance to get more out of your device when the manufacturer gives up the development after launching the device or won't fix bugs in acceptable time.
Not the case here. Moto firmware is stable and not bloated.
CM is best after OEM leaves device support. I had Asus Zenfone 5 earlier but no official CM so developers made unofficial one but Asus had serious issues with bootloader unlock as no developer was able to resolve screen freeze issues. So running custom ROMs on that device was hell bad.
If you think making cm and make it official is easy then do it urself, we really want to see. Things are not same as 1st,2nd &3rd. The chipset are way different than the previous gen. So stop posting useless things. Dont open thread for you own satisfaction.
Just my $0.02 : The premise behind getting a custom ROM is that it's for those who have an above average idea about OS, customizations, working on a system level and such.
The whole argument about stability, and what one does for their living is a bit too far fetched in context of using a device that is dependable. Stock ROMs are made by OEMs keeping a novice end-user in view, who may or may not have sufficient time, knowledge or inclination of going beyond what the device came shipped with.
Custom ROMs and development is undertaken almost completely as a voluntary exercise by the devs, mostly on cost of their own resources and go far as to offer their work off forum threads which they'd personally support. Those flashing and modding devices are ones testing the work undertaken by devs, and even after a ROM gets official status, work on development continues with feedback from users and updating security, porting features from other devices, expanding customization et al.
Battery use, smoothness of UI, connectivity, stability, obviously are essential to one's experience of using their phone, but are highly dependent on how well one's put to use the abilities of their custom ROM, apart from what applications or settings one's gotten on, and that would come about only with experimenting, learning and keeping oneself updated with their device's software.
Stock ROMs, barring the few odd ones which run stock Android are almost always crammed with bloatware, uncustomizable UI/features and locked in to a mesh of regulatory compliances, OEM/vendor/third party interests and above all marketing the device as a product - which means you're good to go for just about as long as the OEM cares, and that isn't usually long enough given they'd obviously be focused on selling newer products.
So, it's just that mileage may vary but if you're willing to stick around to learn and experiment, customizing is the only way to truly own your phone.
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Stock ROMs, barring the few odd ones which run stock Android are almost always crammed with bloatware, uncustomizable UI/features and locked in to a mesh of regulatory compliances, OEM/vendor/third party interests and above all marketing the device as a product - which means you're good to go for just about as long as the OEM cares, and that isn't usually long enough given they'd obviously be focused on selling newer products.
So, it's just that mileage may vary but if you're willing to stick around to learn and experiment, customizing is the only way to truly own your phone.
Sent from my Moto G4 Plus using XDA Labs
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I think the G4 is close to AOSP. Using Xposed you can get many fancy features found in custom roms. GravityBox gives you much of what CM offers.
Security features make it much more difficult to customize a phone. Pay by phone, i.e. "Wallet" will become important.
Custom roms are used more now for keeping old phones current. Not that much happening with new phones. Look at CyanogenMod https://download.cyanogenmod.org/ to view this.
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I think the G4 is close to AOSP. Using Xposed you can get many fancy features found in custom roms. GravityBox gives you much of what CM offers.
Security features make it much more difficult to customize a phone. Pay by phone, i.e. "Wallet" will become important.
Custom roms are used more now for keeping old phones current. Not that much happening with new phones. Look at CyanogenMod https://download.cyanogenmod.org/ to view this.
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If you're considering using Xposed for the 'fancy features' and use wallet, and yet vouch for stock Roms I'm not sure what you're on to. You'd need for more mods running on a stock ROM which would anyways take months or even years to get updated to run latest Android versions. Some times you'd just stick around with frequent updates which are still two SDK versions behind the current official release, basically cycling through bloat, partner apps and constant rooting, modding to just keep your phone worth it's use.
As for new phones, it takes a fair amount of time, effort and understanding to access available sources and build a device tree from which custom ROMs are built.
Besides, not many users, unless they've specifically bought the new device to work on development, adopt customization till about several months after their purchase. As for CyanogenMod site they list the official ROMs, which are painstakingly built after months of testing. What you see on there are mostly devices which are either usually a year old or are stock Android - both being fitting scenarios for system level modifications to drive both performance and customization. You'd be hard pressed to find Android OEMs updating devices or even offering security patches for long.
Also, do remember MIUI, Oxygen and several other OEM ROMs that run across some of the most successful phones evolved from the custom ROMs community development.
And yeah, there's the custom kernels as well which almost always need a custom ROM.
Unless you've hit upon a groundbreaking counter claim to all the benefit of custom ROMs you would be among a tiny minority of informed users who ascribe to that idea. I would really like to benefit from what you can share about it, I am sure I can hit up the devs in my subscribed threads and help them make better decision with their time and efforts.
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Hello,
is there a fully functional Nougat rom for my beloved S4?
Thanks
I think all the roms will be stable and useable as a daily driver, but as someone who hasnt tryed any out, i cant recommend any
"fully functional" and "stable" are very subjective words.
What is fully functional for me might not be fully functional for you.
I don't really use the camera and Bluetooth on my phone, so if those don't work on a certain ROM, then I still consider the ROM to be fully functional for me. Since I don't use them, I don't have a problem with them not working.
That being said, there are various models of the S4 and all have different part revisions. This makes it impossible to have a 100% bug-free experience on any custom ROM, and even TouchWiz ROMs suffer from this problem.
And even if you find what you call a "fully functional ROM", a future update may bring a bug or may break something.
The custom ROM world is an adventure, sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad. People can only recommend ROMs that work or have worked great for them, but that doesn't necessarily mean they will work great for you.
I suggest you find a ROM that appeals to you and try it. If you don't like it, get another one. If none suit your needs, then go back to TouchWiz.
Remember, behind a custom ROM there's usually only one person that does all the work in the free time. While big companies such as Google, Samsung etc, have entire teams that work every day to make their ROM as bug-free as possible, and sometimes even they fail to do it.
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Hello,
is there a fully functional Nougat rom for my beloved S4?
Thanks
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not 100%, there's minor bugs here and there, but very much a usable daily,
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...m-optimized-cyanogenmod-14-0-t3479888/page308
this ones the best in my Opinion, super smooth/fast, credits to Side and his dev team.
regards
I do understand all the attachments that go with a custom rom! By fully functional I meant that, like you said, BT, camera, audio, video, NFC, etc are all working.
I will try your suggestion, raziel123.
Thanks!
In all this time I've had my SM-T230, I've seen many ROMs. I've seen Smooth ROMs, I've seen Prism's Barebones... But never have I seen a ROM on this device that is an actual port. I've had a custom ROM in the works for awhile now, combining 3 separate ROMs, and haven't released it just because I'm hoping for a new port to work on.
I'm really wanting to tempt fate.
An idea struck me, today. I was watching a video about the SM-T235 CyanogenMod 13.1 ROM. Yet, between that device and the SM-T230, I believe (for I am no genius, and could hardly call myself a real dev) that the only difference is a slight one. I have no idea where, but a slight problem should not be so insurmountable that it isn't passed for almost 3.5 years.
I may wish to delve into the differences and try flashing a modified version I make onto my SM-T230.
Yet, I need a starting point. Any suggestions on what to look at? Is it even possible to port said ROM?
Apologies for my obliviousness, and my thanks in advance.
Can I test your ROM's?
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Can I test your ROM's?
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I'm not so sure that's a good idea. I've not had much experience. The only ROM I've made so far is one combining the bootanimation.zip support of emoboy's Everything Google ROM, Smooth ROMs, and Prism Barebones' lightweight resources. I don't own any of the credit. Just patched a very surprisingly stable ROM together.
EDIT: I might post my ROM once it has more originality. I would feel bad undermining all the work of the creators of the ROMs I used.
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I'm not so sure that's a good idea. I've not had much experience. The only ROM I've made so far is one combining the bootanimation.zip support of emoboy's Everything Google ROM, Smooth ROMs, and Prism Barebones' lightweight resources. I don't own any of the credit. Just patched a very surprisingly stable ROM together.
EDIT: I might post my ROM once it has more originality. I would feel bad undermining all the work of the creators of the ROMs I used.
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I can look at it, I make a lot for the Tab 4.
I'd love to get some totally un-biased views here, including pros and cons. This will probably also help others given the current circumstances and wading through old threads containing up to 4000 posts is a real PIA. Current info condensed into one new thread would be great and not introduce clutter in the ROM threads.
Given that even if we get Oreo, there will most likely be no further official updates, just wondering, from all of you who have used many ROMs, what is an honest view of which ROMs are nearly bug free? Are any bug free? For me stuff like call and camera issues are a total deal breaker. I use my phone for personal and work, including interstate and minor overseas travel. Not going to even install any ROM that is compromised in some way.
I put OmniROM MM on my Oppo Find 7 and that was fantastic. It even got updated to Nougat and I think still has updates so I reset it to a non rooted, stock (Omni) state and passed it on to my eldest daughter. It's being enjoyed and well used still.
I'd really like to get that kind of service life from my Axon 7 as it is a very good phone still.
I reccomend Oreo AEX,although i heard that dualsim is not currently working
Just like asking "what are the best headphones?", or "what are the best speakers?", the only real way to tell how well a certain ROM will work for YOU on YOUR PHONE is to try it. Even between phones of the exact same model, there will always be different experiences across users. Backup, wipe, flash & see if the features/performance you find are what work for you.
Well that won't be happening. I use it for work. Can't be flashing it all the time. Just needs to work and leave it alone.
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Well that won't be happening. I use it for work. Can't be flashing it all the time. Just needs to work and leave it alone.
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I'd use raystef's stock based roms then, check them out.
Most are nougat, one is oreo beta, pick your poison.
I've had really good experiences with Official lineageOS. It has been a seamless process without any hitches. I'm personally waiting for the official release of lineageOS 15.1 (if and when it comes out). I've installed lineage on various devices and have been super happy with all of them. My Moto G Titan feels like a new phone after I've installed it.
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I've had really good experiences with Official lineageOS. It has been a seamless process without any hitches. I'm personally waiting for the official release of lineageOS 15.1 (if and when it comes out). I've installed lineage on various devices and have been super happy with all of them. My Moto G Titan feels like a new phone after I've installed it.
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It's very device specific though. Sometimes a custom ROM (such as LOS, OMNI etc) will work well on one type of phone and be buggy on a different one. Not all phones work the same on them and I think the Axon 7 is one of those that ends up with buggy ROMs. The camera and DAC are complications that can be hard to get running well, also dual SIM can be an issue and I use it all.
If it's a choice between custom with bugs or stay on stock Nougat I would stay stock.
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If it's a choice between custom with bugs or stay on stock Nougat I would stay stock.
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The feedback on LOS doesn't seem to be too bad and I do understand that since I am also still stock but the problem is that the stock ROM is filled with bugs aswell. The screen brightness bug I get sometimes, the call bug, my Google play store crashes often, my GPS doesn't work properly etc etc. Those are all bugs the stock ROM itself has.