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LeeDroid VS Revolution

What are your thoughts on the best sense roms at the min?

Threads about what is the better ROM are not liked much on XDA. This is because the quality of a ROM is about personal preference.
Also, debating what ROM is best can discriminate some developers that are working hard, just because some people like their ROM less. Other people won't try it out then, while maybe the ROM suits them best.
Besides that, it's just not nice towards the devs. It's like having two artists both comming to you with a painting and then telling to one his/her painting isn't good and to the other his/her painting is much better, while your knowledge about art isn't even so good (at least not so good as the artists).
I do get you want to know what ROM (if that is the case) to choose, but then just look at what the devs say about their ROM and the recent reactions from users. Then you get an idea what to expect. Also, it can't hurt to try them out .

Speaking honestly, when I first joined XDA, I too used to ask questions like the OP. However, my views have changed. Each "Chef" cooks his own rom in a different way, as their roms are aimed at different target groups. Thus each rom will have its own advantages, disadvantages and more, making each rom taste "unique". The only way you know what you like is by trying something new everyday or when the opportunity arises. The same goes with flashing. Download both roms (and more) flash them, spend a few days and see how it feels for you. If you like it, keep it. On the other hand, if you can't be bothered to even flash...why are you on XDA?
Good day, and I don't want to see another post where flaming could occur.

Agreeing with both of the guys/girls..presuming guys, while your intentions are good, its all personal preference.

So people won't answer because its not fair on the dev? I hardly think so, basing a question on personal preference wouldn't harm any support a dev would get from followers
If anything its a positive being compared
Its not like I'm asking for faults, one will have different features not necessarily better just different, all I wanted to know is what made people choose the rom

Maybe a better question would be - what are the main differences between LeeDroid and Revolution? Then you could make an informed decision as to which to try (or which to try first at least).
I'm using LeeDroid now, but I'm curious as to how Revolution differs and if I should give that a shot as well. Doing a bit of a scan of the Revolution thread doesn't show anything obvious, but I'm sure there are differences.

I myself have been browsing both threads as just rooted my DHD & unsure which to give a try first.
Gonna wait for their next updates & see which appears to be the most solid.
Not to sure if I wanna go Sense or NoSense, possibly the latter.

Yes please, i do agree with the comparison making devs feels bad and stuff...
But all some of us wants to know is what are the differences? like lees is targeted at what kind of users? Revolution is more for who... and stuff like that...
Its like some likes the PSP and some the NDS... PSP for more mature and action gamers while NDS is more for the kids and ladies... and of course there are exceptions and thats where flashing both roms comes... but first we just wanna know, what is what?. . .
Pretty please ?

LEEDROID no doubt about it

So what's better? Big Mac or Quarter Pounder? Well it depends who you ask.
Anyway you left out RcmixHD. Which is an equally good rom just different. Some people prefer vanilla ice cream.
Leedroid and Revolution are the most popular but that isn't strictly the same as being the best.
Someone swyped my idea.

Anyone who can explain what the main differences are between the 2 roms?
I am about to flash a custom rom for this phone (first time flash on my dhd)
And i looked at the threads but i dont see the differences.
though here i see there are differences but they arent mentioned.
anybosy wanne explain them?
(not looking for a "who is better" answer, just to know the differences so i can deside what would suit me better)
Thanks!

There is no major differences between ARHD and Leedroid because they both support the ideea of "close to stock as much as possible" ideea but with many optimizations and custom kernels which also gives more battery life and a very smooth experience.
The only thing i would say that differs is the kernels but no major differences i would say because ARHD uses Apache kernel and Leedroid uses his own kernel which has some things from Apache kernel but Apache has some things from lee`s kernel and so on.
Personally i am with Leedroid since 1.1 version and i`m more than satisfied, i found him more experienced but it`s just matter of prefference.

You're best bet is really just to test them
Flash one, make a backup in recovery, use it for a few days and see how you like it.
Flash the other, make another backup, use it for a few days and see how you like that one.
If you like 2nd one best you don't need to do anything else, but if you decide you like the 1st one best just restore the backup.
No one should ever feel tied into one ROM as it's so easy to flash and test others. I used to try 3 or 4 a week on my Hero back when chef's were knocking them out in quick succession
Personally I've only ever used ARHD on my DHD but am keen to try LeeDroid and VillainROM too (I was a big Villain fan on Hero). Problem for me is finding the time!

thanks!
i think i will go with revolution first because i found everything i need for that.
the site for leedroid is a little unclear to me..

I've been using Leeroid for a couple of days. I was hoping for better battery consumption over stock, but the difference isn't substantial. I also find that the auto-brightness is too low for my liking. And there seems to be a couple of transition glitches, as far as I can tell. I plan to use it for a week before trying out Revolution.
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Definitely Shadowline ROMS.
Wait, is this the Topaz forum?

DeathJester said:
Definitely Shadowline ROMS.
Wait, is this the Topaz forum?
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Haha, 2009 just called and said hello

LeeDroid it s better for the look but Revolution it s faster than LeeDroid

I have tried LeeDroid only once and it is crap..
I really recommend Android Revolution HD 2.0.12, it is REALLY fast! And ARHD's developing speed is fast. You will get updates almost every week, some times twice... It will include much themes and if you don't like Sense, you can install NoSense mod. I recommend!
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Question answered as far as I know.....thanks you for participating.
Thread closed....and, please...do not re-open
Regards,
M_T_M

Whats up with the roms lately?

I just wanted to get a feel/consensus on peoples opinion of the third party rom scene for the EVO. I started my XDA days back with a tilt, and have been loyal to HTC since then.
The EVO is simply the best phone out there at the moment, IMO. But the roms seem to be very lacking in actual substance and it's a bit disappointing.
Almost every rom I've looked at here has been so customized and themed they are really just eyesores. It was normal on all my other devices to have some of the roms that were being produced be like this, but not all. I've been really impressed in the past with HTC roms. Dutty is one of my favorites.
The only 2 current exceptions I've found are CM and Fresh, and since some of us refuse to use sense, it really only leaves one choice.
CM is awesome, and the work that goes into it is really really amazing. There isn't a bunch of customization to the UI, it's left up to you what you want to do for how your phone looks. It's a rock solid foundation to build upon, and it would be awesome to see more roms in that form.
Thoughts? Am I missing something?

This is the wrong section, the General section would be the appropriate section for this.

this should be in general, but i agree it seems that lots of roms out there are just customizations of existing roms, a color change here and there. There really isnt anything major to differentiate between sense roms, except for 3 or 4 big ones, and then there is CM rom, and the roms based of CM seem like just themed version of CM, but who knows i mean im not a developer, maybe theres only so much one can do as far as development.

easedrop said:
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The EVO is simply the best phone out there at the moment, IMO. But the roms seem to be very lacking in actual substance and it's a bit disappointing.
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Thoughts? Am I missing something?
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Better get started developing.

What else do you want the ROM's out there to do?:
OC: Check
Undervolt: Check
AOSP Builds: Check
Open Source 4G: Check
De-odex: Check
Wide Variety of Themes: Check
Open Source FM Radio: Check
Wireless Tether: Check
Wired Tether: Check
Gingerbread: Check
AND THE LIST GOES ON...
What I'm trying to say is, unless your speaking specifically about HDMI, there's really not a lot left to be desired that can't be had from these phones until Honeycomb hits.
I mean, CM even supports SIP accounts natively...among the millions of other small details that are so amazing.
Even DLNA can be had through a simple app...what's left for you to want so badly that your phone cannot do already?
My point is, is that most devs are not going start over from scratch just for the heck of it, when something so close to optimum potential has already been reached.
Sent from my 4G-Toting, Lightning Smoking, Gingerfied, Cyanogenmodded EVO: Please stand back!

Itotally disagree. I mean, some, yeah, you're right, but look at the mods done to the more popular roms. Not just theming but tweaks, custome apps, etc.
What more do you want form a ROM?
And while, true, some people are married to CM, some are more into Senseui, some Miui.
Everyone has different tastes, and from what I se eon here, there's something for just about everyone.

Thread moved to General.
As per your questions, devs make roms based on their personal taste and, in many cases, general feedback from the users. There are many plain, stock rooted roms out there, and many tutorials in case you want to make your own as well. Also, you can easily theme any rom to your liking. I hope this answers your concern.

i think the ROM's on the evo are pretty strong. My criteria is, do the majority if not all ROM's improve upon stock? Yes. Do the majority if not all the dev's support their ROM's and upgrade in a timely manner? Yes Do the majority if not all the dev's have themes/mods available for their ROMS? Yes. Are there more than one style of ROM's to choose? YES 1. Sense 2. AOSP - MIUI 3. AOSP - CM 4. AOSP - Liquid metal

easedrop said:
I just wanted to get a feel/consensus on peoples opinion of the third party rom scene for the EVO. I started my XDA days back with a tilt, and have been loyal to HTC since then.
The EVO is simply the best phone out there at the moment, IMO. But the roms seem to be very lacking in actual substance and it's a bit disappointing.
Almost every rom I've looked at here has been so customized and themed they are really just eyesores. It was normal on all my other devices to have some of the roms that were being produced be like this, but not all. I've been really impressed in the past with HTC roms. Dutty is one of my favorites.
The only 2 current exceptions I've found are CM and Fresh, and since some of us refuse to use sense, it really only leaves one choice.
CM is awesome, and the work that goes into it is really really amazing. There isn't a bunch of customization to the UI, it's left up to you what you want to do for how your phone looks. It's a rock solid foundation to build upon, and it would be awesome to see more roms in that form.
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There are way more. Click my signature and you'll see
my EVO is way cooler than yours

Except your link is broken...

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Yes. MIUI.

the OP ... is expectiong way too much....
you do relize for most.. this is a good little hobby..
so is done around free time...
you want more... you do it! I dont have the skills to even try.
I do appreciate the ones that can... and do.
there are a lot of phones out in the market. and not all phones even have a dev community.. and if they do, it aint that big.
so there are different levels of dev support from phone to phone.
EVO, is way up there in the level of quality devs and community support.

Fixed my sig, forgot i changed the link. But there are a Sh*t ton of choices, my count is at 144 thus far

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Yes. MIUI.
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+1... this.

I've had 4 Android phones:
Evo
G2
MyTouch 3g Slide
Moto Cliq
This forum has more roms, kernels, mods, themes, etc than all 3 of my prior phones combined. Every time I hit the dev section I'm a kid in the candy store. There's fully functioning roms that work with everything and a few that I'm excited to see get better, like MIUI getting 4g.
There's very few phones out there with this much dev support, my friend has an LG vortex. Go find the LG vortex section of the forums. They don't exist.
My point, you have to do some digging but there's something here for everyone. If there isn't, make it! We could always use another dev to try to topple the big dogs.

ROM recommendations?

I love the stock ROM so far. Coming from a rooted Sammy 10.1 that had the full tablet UI, but I think with the 7" for factor the stock feels rgt for a change. I still would like to root and get whatever helpful mods on here that I can. An OC kernel with better battery life is always great too. What choices do you guys recommend for what I'm after?

Rooted with stock is working fine for me at the moment. I wanted root just to get otg thumb drive support for more space for my 8 Gig rig. I could not pass up that $200 price tag and still get some 64 gig loving Lol.
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Can I use a custom kernel with rooted stock? Will it work as well? Maybe a bad question.

Most ROMs and kernels are so early along that you better be prepared for stability issues.
My recommendation is that you go look around the Android Development forums and the Original Development forums. Everyone has their different preferences and styles in their choices, so nobody here will be able to tell you exactly what to use.

ThePerson98 said:
Most ROMs and kernels are so early along that you better be prepared for stability issues.
My recommendation is that you go look around the Android Development forums and the Original Development forums. Everyone has their different preferences and styles in their choices, so nobody here will be able to tell you exactly what to use.
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Yeah. I read around and it does seem early bit the kernels look good so far. 1.5 with some undervolting seems stable. But the hybrid Roms aren't what I'm looking for. Maybe a cm10 when its ready.

ThePerson98 said:
Most ROMs and kernels are so early along that you better be prepared for stability issues.
My recommendation is that you go look around the Android Development forums and the Original Development forums. Everyone has their different preferences and styles in their choices, so nobody here will be able to tell you exactly what to use.
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That statement is very misleading, as there are several ROMS with zero known issues whatsoever, and kernels too. Sure, most of them are unstable, but you only really need one of each to be stable. For example Trinity is totally stable, never an issue with that Kernel. CM10 is stable as far as I have heard, I have not tried it. But I have used AOKP and encountered not the first issue since installing that wasn't cause by apps not liking JellyBean(which would have happened on stock). My advice is, root then backup stock. Then toss on a few ROMS and see how you feel about it. Can always go back. It's the rooting itself that voids your warranty. Once done there is really no reason not to try on a few ROMS. If it's stability you need stick to CM10 and AOKP in my opinion. Most other ROMS are simply based on these with more things added, and that is where your stability problems usually lie anyway.

Paranoid Android. It has everything I wanted that wasn't included in the stock image.

charliexavier said:
Paranoid Android. It has everything I wanted that wasn't included in the stock image.
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I loved PA but i had major problems with it, sadly, that required me to move on to another ROM.

Landara said:
That statement is very misleading, as there are several ROMS with zero known issues whatsoever, and kernels too. Sure, most of them are unstable, but you only really need one of each to be stable. For example Trinity is totally stable, never an issue with that Kernel. CM10 is stable as far as I have heard, I have not tried it. But I have used AOKP and encountered not the first issue since installing that wasn't cause by apps not liking JellyBean(which would have happened on stock). My advice is, root then backup stock. Then toss on a few ROMS and see how you feel about it. Can always go back. It's the rooting itself that voids your warranty. Once done there is really no reason not to try on a few ROMS. If it's stability you need stick to CM10 and AOKP in my opinion. Most other ROMS are simply based on these with more things added, and that is where your stability problems usually lie anyway.
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I've used Trinity Kernel a few times now and have had stability issues, even without overclocking. I think it has something to do with deep sleep, but whatever it is, it's frustrating. I'm gonna wait a few weeks to let the problems get ironed out before using it again. I'm on CM10 at the moment, and for the most part it seems rather stable, but I do have random issues here and there, and I don't know if they're related to the ROM or not. The only reason I'm on it is because I'm a bit flash happy, and just find the nightly updates exciting.
For most users, my recommendation persists, stick with stock and give the development a bit more time. If a user is feeling adventurous, then your advice definitely applies: Get a good backup, and explore with a multitude of ROMs, for everyone has different tastes and preferences.

Well dear all the people talking about stability issues:
Not flaming, just expressing my opinion:
Morfic's trinity kernels are still experimental releases, I wouldn't be expecting stability because they are not classed as 'stable'
I used earlier versions of his kernels and faced no problems at all
So it depends on which kernel/kernel version as to whether or not its stable
I am on AOKP build 1 and using Faux's 008 mainline kernel, it works very well, super stable and super quick
No issues at all here, I guess because I am on two stable and tested releases

Best N7 ROMS?

Looking to get a N7 soon when the price drops start. Was wondering what do you guys think the best ROMs out so far are. Looking for silky smooth usage for the most part. Mainly will be used for web surfing, so whatever can make web pages load faster would be nice!
Will be using a different kernel that will allow better battery life as well.
So opinions on best ROMs? Would be nice if you've tried many recent ROM's to provide feedback on

If its mainly for surfing then stay on stock, install aosp browser as chrome is slow and switch to franco kernel.
A rom will not make amything faster only a kernel can. You can turn off animations to speed it up but even stock rom can do that.
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I still want a different ROM. Such as Glazed Jelly bean, Paranoid or whatever they were. They were visually a lot more pleasing, and the ROMs themselves I believe were leaner as well?
Just wanted to see what everyone was using as their main ROM atm.

I really can't say there is a best ROM or even best kernel.. When I was new to Android a few years back I was a flashaholic.. OMG NEW ROM!!! AND IT HAS A COOL TITLE AND SLOGAN! MUST [email protected]!#@!! :laugh: Now a days... I pick a ROM, I pick a kernel that looks like it's frequently updated, well maintained and has an engaging developer and stick with it. There really is no best.. Just the one that suites your needs.. Speed.. Eh.. Unless you're a benchmark or FPS junkie almost any ROM on the N7 is going to fly.. This tablet is a beast..
Just read the threads in development.. Look to see what's up to 4.1.2 standards, see what is frequently updated, see what users feedback is, see how the dev responds to feedback, look at the features... Pick three and try them out.. I guarantee one will trap you and that's the one for you.. It'll just hit you.. A ROM that is the `best' for me may not necessarily be the best ROM for you.

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I really can't say there is a best ROM or even best kernel.. When I was new to Android a few years back I was a flashaholic.. OMG NEW ROM!!! AND IT HAS A COOL TITLE AND SLOGAN! MUST [email protected]!#@!! :laugh: Now a days... I pick a ROM, I pick a kernel that looks like it's frequently updated, well maintained and has an engaging developer and stick with it. There really is no best.. Just the one that suites your needs.. Speed.. Eh.. Unless you're a benchmark or FPS junkie almost any ROM on the N7 is going to fly.. This tablet is a beast..
Just read the threads in development.. Look to see what's up to 4.1.2 standards, see what is frequently updated, see what users feedback is, see how the dev responds to feedback, look at the features... Pick three and try them out.. I guarantee one will trap you and that's the one for you.. It'll just hit you.. A ROM that is the `best' for me may not necessarily be the best ROM for you.
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This is great advice! I've lost count of how many ROMs have been on my n7 now. I settle on one for a week or so, then get itchy feet and try another ;p Grass is always greener and all that!

I recommend stock rom ，stablet

I am using paranoid android. The screen looks much bigger in tablet mode + the option of expanded desktop. Combined with franco kernel its a winner. I use my device for gaming and now franco has gpu freq change on the fly so it suits me well.
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I'm running cyanogenmod with Franco kernel, after having a lot of trouble from another rom. My advice is to make sure a rom has been out a a day or so and read the thread to make sure there are no major problems.
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Guys, isnt there a similar thread already - > Which ROM are you running?

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There is no "best" ROM for a individual user. Different ROMs offer pro and cons, so it best for users to read the Development threads and make the own informed decision based on there needs. People often get a little over passionate about there preferred ROM, so these type of threads are best closed before the flames begin. The only exception to this is poll threads to determine the number of users using different ROMs.​

[Q] Looking for advice on S4 ROM

Hi all,
I once more turn to XDA gurus for some advice and also questions. Let me start with saying that I have very basic experience with android phones: my main phone is an iPhone but I love to play with Android devices to fill in the iOS blanks. I own a Samsung Infuse (with a custom ROM but very unstable) and briefly had an HTC One but returned it.
Anyway, I bought an AT&T S4; it's unlocked and works great. However I'm in Canada on Rogers and couldn't care less about the bloatware installed on it. Here come the questions:
- Does anyone know of a way to install the stock Rogers ROM on this phone (more like where to get it)?
- Alternately, would you recommend to install another ROM?
Here's the thing: a week after I bought mine, Google announced the Google editions; would have known I would have waited to get that.
- Would it be recommendable to flash the Google ROM on my phone?
- Would there be a way to install some of the Samsung SPKs on such a ROM (I could never seem to do it on my Infuse)?
I know how to flash a ROM, and it's well documented in the Forums. I'm more after opinions; my experience with flashing ROMs on my Infuse has been spotty at best. Seems like no matter what I did, the phone would become unusably unstable after a while. This scares me because it seems like the Infuse is one of the most modded phones out there... The S4 is very impressive and I don't want to hinder it's performance in any way.
If none of this is doable/recommendable, then I might sell this one and pay the extra $100 and get the Google edition.
I appreciate any input!
Thanks

Well, I know it's not polite to bump your own post, but I would really appreciate some feedback.
And actually I'll add a bit more to it: let's say I either try the Google ROM or decide to buy a Google Edition, there are some pretty cool apps included with the Samsung version (such as multi window and air gestures). Is it possible to have those available on the Google Edition/ROM?
Thanks and sorry again for my lack of knowledge in the area...

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Well, I know it's not polite to bump your own post, but I would really appreciate some feedback.
And actually I'll add a bit more to it: let's say I either try the Google ROM or decide to buy a Google Edition, there are some pretty cool apps included with the Samsung version (such as multi window and air gestures). Is it possible to have those available on the Google Edition/ROM?
Thanks and sorry again for my lack of knowledge in the area...
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Consensus with the GE ROMs for the S4 are that they're WAY too stripped down in comparison to other AOSP options (of which GE is NOT, it's actually TW disguised as AOSP). I, personally, would avoid using GE and instead opt for something like AOKP if you want that same feel. I just flashed FoxHound and really like the hybrid aspect of it in the fact that you keep all the gimmicky TW features (the hover and voice stuff as well as multi-window), the menu structures are similar, but it brings all the bonuses that having an AOSP ROM does. There are some extra steps involved which @Axman has taken his time to explain (you have to manually input your APN), but the end result is worth it.
Good luck and read around.
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well spoken my friend. Thanks

Thank you very much for the clarification. I was actually in the process of reading Axman's posts. To be honest I'm totally overwhelmed. I didn't imagine it to be so complicated; I'm really torn between ROM and keeping stock because of the TW cool stuff... I will keep reading around as all good n00b should.
Thanks!

technosinner said:
Thank you very much for the clarification. I was actually in the process of reading Axman's posts. To be honest I'm totally overwhelmed. I didn't imagine it to be so complicated; I'm really torn between ROM and keeping stock because of the TW cool stuff... I will keep reading around as all good n00b should.
Thanks!
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It's much less complicated than it seems, but you do need to follow the steps as outlined or you could end up with anything from a borked flash to a bricked phone depending on what you're trying to do. I recommend playing with a i337m ROM that is TW-based for your first, just to get the hang of things as it'll provide the least steep learning curve. Go for these steps at first:
1. Enable Developer Options (go to Settings/About/tap on build until it says they're enabled)
2. Run one click root/recovery from Adam Outler
3. Transfer and flash ROM of your choice
Just know that people flash for different reasons ranging from wanting less bloat to more battery life to a morbid case of flashaholism (such as myself and @TheAxman). There's nothing saying you have to go balls to the wall here and you may find yourself completely happy with the stock ROM and a better kernel. Just read up and it'll make perfect sense.
Last word of advice: have Odin and the stock ROM on hand so you can flash back to stock if necessary. Some ROMs don't play well when flashed on top of others, even if you do a full wipe.
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I was actually in the exact same situation as you.
However, I decided to flash a TW based ROM to keep all the cool Samsung features.
I'd recommend any of the Stock Based ones here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312444
Just do your research and look for the features you need.

Thanks a lot guys! I'll be doing some reading but at least I know where to look.
One last thing: I keep seeing this loki thing around. Since I'm on an att version I got that I need it, but what exactly is it and where can I get it? I see a lot of references to it, but I can't seem to find a download link or a tutorial on it...
Thanks again!
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Don' t take the loki thing and run with it..if you are rooted and have recovery installed, flash the rom of choice and use a att kernel that already has been loki'ed.
Simple. That way you will never go wrong.
The Ax says this is my method of choice. Could care less about loki.

I recommend cm10.1 . It is aosp based, tins of features, fast, and just nice to use. I use it on my att sgs4 right now. It is nightly release but it is VERY STABLE. Ge is just tw with an aosp fanboy shirt on .lol.
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