Forget the BlackBerry. There will be an Indiegogo Campaign for a Moto Z slider keyboard. The best form factor including Ctrl and Tab https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/physical-keyboard-slider-mod-for-moto-z/coming_soon
Finally!
Update (03.03.2017):
The campaign is going to start today at 12:00 noon UK time. (GMT +0).
It will cost 60 USD for Super Early Birds and the regular price after Indiegogo will be 120 USD. The keyboard will be flippable as well.
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HibikiTaisuna said:
Forget the BlackBerry. There will be an Indiegogo Campaign for a Moto Z slider keyboard. The best form factor including Ctrl and Tab https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/physical-keyboard-slider-mod-for-moto-z/coming_soon
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That would be a killer!!!
Oh yes! I knew I bought this phone for a reason
This is going to be interesting. I was hoping for something like this when I bought the phone. I am just wondering if it is better for the keyboard to slide from the side or just from the bottom like in the BB Priv.
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This is going to be interesting. I was hoping for something like this when I bought the phone. I am just wondering if it is better for the keyboard to slide from the side or just from the bottom like in the BB Priv.
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IMHO it is much more useful from the side. A vertical slider doesn't make much sense as you already have much vertical space on your display to read a message history f.e.. As soon as you hold your phone horizontally more than half of the display is blocked by the keyboard and on many phones you can't even browse your past messages without closing the keyboard. With a physical horizontal keyboard you can still read mails and/or messages - thinking of split screen with mail on one side and Signal, Threema or Google Search on the other - and type in each app by selecting it.
Landscape sliders can be incredibly useful, especially when they tilt. This one doesn't tilt yet, but the devs said they'd consider it. Once you add tilt to the mix, the keyboard becomes a media stand for netflixing et al, a insanely good ereader (lock the reader app in portrait, hold the phone like a book with your thumb over the arrow keys and use them to turn pages), and of course, more ergonomic for normal typing use and less annoying in re: glare. Having multitasking now, as hibiki mentions, is all the more reason for one. I hope this one turns out great. I do wish they'd offset the keys as the best of the last generation of landscape sliders did (HTC touch pros and droids) rather than just a grid like that, but if it tilts, I'll overlook that.
Also, what's good for any QWERTY enthusiasts is probably good for them all. If this one sells well, you can bet other form factors, including the treo/BB style portrait boards, will eventually be made as well. The first thing I thought of when I saw the Moto Z for the first time was a keyboard renaissance.
fortunz said:
Landscape sliders can be incredibly useful, especially when they tilt. This one doesn't tilt yet, but the devs said they'd consider it. Once you add tilt to the mix, the keyboard becomes a media stand for netflixing et al, a insanely good ereader (lock the reader app in portrait, hold the phone like a book with your thumb over the arrow keys and use them to turn pages), and of course, more ergonomic for normal typing use and less annoying in re: glare. Having multitasking now, as hibiki mentions, is all the more reason for one. I hope this one turns out great. I do wish they'd offset the keys as the best of the last generation of landscape sliders did (HTC touch pros and droids) rather than just a grid like that, but if it tilts, I'll overlook that.
Also, what's good for any QWERTY enthusiasts is probably good for them all. If this one sells well, you can bet other form factors, including the treo/BB style portrait boards, will eventually be made as well. The first thing I thought of when I saw the Moto Z for the first time was a keyboard renaissance.
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Just posting to completely agree with this. I have zero interest in a portrait physical keyboard, but always liked landscape sliders.
While this maybe a nice idea, am I the only one that notices the fatal flaw... there is no way of ever using the camera while the keyboard is in the retracted mode. The only way would be, to have to pull out the keyboard to allow the lens to be exposed.
Jimi Mack said:
While this maybe a nice idea, am I the only one that notices the fatal flaw... there is no way of ever using the camera while the keyboard is in the retracted mode. The only way would be, to have to pull out the keyboard to allow the lens to be exposed.
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Opening the keyboard doesn't feel like much of a chore for me, and it's not like the keyboard has to be attached at all times. If lots of pictures need to be taken for a while, toss the mod for a few hours. Fatal flaw? Different strokes I guess.
There's someone floating an eink mod right now with a short screen so as to not cover the lens. Personally I'd just as soon have it cover the camera and be a decent sized-screen.
The campaign is going to start today at 12:00 noon UK time. (GMT +0).
It will cost 60 USD for Super Early Birds and the regular price after Indiegogo will be 120 USD. The keyboard will be flippable as well.
will it fit on Moto Z Play? I think so...
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will it fit on Moto Z Play? I think so...
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It would be surprising if not, as it is a Moto Z line compatible Mod.
Dann schauen wir mal.....
The campaign looks promising. The keyboards checks all boxes for me. Tiltable, backlit and horizontal slider. I wish I could afford the special edition though. That cyan looks really smexy
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/physical-keyboard-mod-for-moto-z/x/16122878#/
It's live now. Thank you for all the support!
I backed it. They added tilt and I'm over the moon. I haven't seen a keyboard this good since 2010.
Backed it! Finally, a good 5 row slider keyboard for a high end phone! This project must succeed, spread the word!
I'm gonna support it. I already bought two. Ive been wanting a new phone w/ a physical keyboard for so long. My last phone before this one was the Droid 4
I voted to buy but only for the camera hole version.
I have my favorite keyboard....
Edit, I would be on fence til I demo'ed it.
My KB is the Bomb!
Editing features as good as these would be a must
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71059858&postcount=1
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UPDATE 2/14/09- HAHAHA!! I LAUGH AT THE VERY FIRST COMMENT POSTED!!!! IT SEEMS OUR DREAMS ARE COMING TRUE WITH THE NEW HTC MODELS LEAKED!!!!! So i guess all of our hard work and wishfull thinking has finally paid off. The only thing to really worry about now is whether HTC will hold true to the leaked hype and deliver to ATT a touch Hd variant with a full qwerty in true Iphone killer fashion. I WILL BE CHECKING ALL WEBSITES FOR ANY NEWS ON MOBILE WORLD CONGRESS '09 NEWS AND HTC-RELATED PRODUCTS. If we dont see this screen on the leaked models at MWC 09 then im definitly saving up for the Toshiba TG01!! keyboard or not, a 4.1" screen with full divx support outta the box!!? now thats an end all to smartphones for sure!! keep ya posted on all the new pics if we get any. Plus ill try to create some better quality Photoshop pics of the leaked HTC phones so we may be able to have a better resolution. thanks all for the poll responses!!!
Update!!! Ok so ive been working on the 3D model for this concept. I finished pretty much everything i wanted to do. The look is there. hopefully someone over at HTC is checking these pics out. It took me a total of about 3 days to model out this phone. and it was fun to decide the final look. overall i would say it should be no thicker than the tilt. hopefully with new tech it will be thinner. aside from that i thought it would great if the front buttons were only visible when the screen was on, seeing as how they are not physical buttons. and maybe they could all be configurable to different icons, almost as if they were on a small led screen so you could give them a custom look. the camera is now flush with the back, which is how i think it should always be. maybe physical limitations are to blame for the official design. i hope all you guys like it. I might consider putting together some models of other concept phones in the future. maybe an Iphone with a slide out QWERTY k/b!! hehe. just kidding. who knows. hope you all like them.
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For me it is a fake PS and this model will never happens.
I do not think that they are will release a qwerty model as it is directly competing against the iphone and they do not want it to be thick.
I'm hoping you're wish will become true...
But we always want more... : http://www.mobilecowboys.nl/mobilerumours/8263
they are fake, I made them!! just wishing they will come true. someone needs to make thinner keyboard hardware and thinner slide-out hardware. my tilt still feels like a brick. and the touch pro? that is a joke. too thick for me. thats why i made these. my Dreams!
Thats clearly Photoshopped
I think a HD, with Qwerty will just become to bulky to be really really attractive..
Lord.Bachus said:
Thats clearly Photoshopped
I think a HD, with Qwerty will just become to bulky to be really really attractive..
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ofcourse it is. he made them just to show us and talk about it....
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I'm hoping you're wish will become true...
But we always want more... : http://www.mobilecowboys.nl/mobilerumours/8263
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More infor about the T8290 here.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1378
Surur
And after they got the keyboard attached they will add a fingerprint scanner, tv-tuner, wimax, surround sound speakers and hdmi.
I think this is already one of the best phones HTC ever built if it is as good as it looks. The only true iPhone-killer so far I think. Of course they can build a phone that suits everyone's needs but first of all they need to beat the competitiors before experimenting. I will probably buy it next year.
By the way, on the second picture in the lower part of the picture the keyboard is wider than the phone, so when you close it the keyboard will stick out on the other side.
Great tazbo28!!!
As a happy Universal user I always have been looking for a REAL succesor of the best PDA ever made!: Universal
And this work you done it´s exactly what I call the PERFECT uni succesor!!
I don´t know if this will become real or not but I´m having hope!!!!
Congrats!!!
That's the phone I'm waiting for. Why would the iphone have anything to do with holding back production of this type of phone. They could have the best of both worlds with the Touch HD (iphone killer for those people wanting it to be dead so bad) and the Touch HD Pro (for those people who really don't want to give up the use of a physical keyboard). That's how you could kill more than just the iphone. I'll be waiting.......hopefully this will be born someday.
It would probably sell but....
anyhow, your lighting is all wrong which is why it looks very fake.
It'd be good to see the Touch HD have a QWERTY keyboard.
You tried but u didn't photoshopped it well
I just hope this could happen in reality...it would be an all round iphone killer + a wonderful piece of device.
Oh Jesus! my post got hijacked and now, the whole world wide web is filled with your mock up picture of HTC Touch HD Pro and rumours that the PPC might be coming... damn,this is what the WWW could do
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.......hopefully this will be born someday.
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I saw this on at least one other website and I don't recall them recognizing it was faked by way of wishful thinking.... doesn't take much to "start" a rumor does it.
i had a wizard and a trinity. My conclusion: the keyboard is not used all the times, and anyway too small for real typing. I bought a bluetooth keyboard but never used it....
The best PDA Fake I ever saw was done with a HP 4200 I think. They detached the touch screen from that tablet PC and hooked it up to the Dell X51v's VGA-out and claimed that HTC got a new supersize pocketpc / tablet-whatever thing. Very funny fake since they did it on video which made it look even more realistic.
If they would make a foldable version they could compete with the E90, that's a very very solid pda in that part of the business world: weight doesn't matter, just quality, size and funtionality.
It is true..why cant HTC make a ppc with keyboard just like the E90 - i mean the one that closes and not slide :-?
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It is true..why cant HTC make a ppc with keyboard just like the E90 - i mean the one that closes and not slide :-?
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See HTC Universal.
Surur
It's a great fake ^_^ A Touch HD with keyboard, should be street priced about $1200 LOL
Anyone have a screenshot of the vibrant texting in landscape mode?
I have yet to see a real Vibrant, only dummy phones. I am used to a physical keyboard, but really want to give the Vibrant a chance. I want to see what the virtual qwerty keyboard looks like in landscape mode. I have yet to find a picture of it, everyone shows us what the swype looks like in portriat mode.
I had the same ideas about physical keyboard. Swype + 4" keyboard is REALLY simple and i prefer it over a physical keyboard (G1).
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Thanks for the quick reply. I will order one tomorrow and put my G1 away in the cellphone museum.
Rick
others since swype isnt for everyone
Samsung
Android
Custom HTC_ime
I wondered the same thing before I bought the phone... Swype is great
In portrait; even enough to forget physical KB by itself. All the KB in landscape are super sensitive and MT supported so its almost like having a physical KB.
Vibe the XDApp
Well right now I am on my vibrant in portrait mode and this took less than one minute to type. Oh and by the way before I got mine I went to the immobile store and they let me test it out.
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All~G1 said:
I wondered the same thing before I bought the phone... Swype is great
In portrait; even enough to forget physical KB by itself. All the KB in landscape are super sensitive and MT supported so its almost like having a physical KB.
Vibe the XDApp
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Yeah I use Swype on portrait. It's really accurate and not even worth switching to landscape to do it. I've tried Swype on my G1 and it was really nice and all that but sometimes it would be difficult due to the limitations on the screen size. 4" definitely makes it a lot easier.
I had a G1 since '08 and T-Mobile let me buy the Vibrant for 2 years for $164.99 when it first came out Contract wasn't even ended haha
A couple bought ones from the Android Market
Smart Keyboard Pro
My personal favorite right after HTC_IME
Better Keyboard
ok thats it , Better keyboard is customizable (Butt load of themes both free and payed on the market) and Smart Keyboard pro has some themes built in (i was showing the iDont aka iPhone style on the pic).
Theres a bunch of options so if you dont like the ones it comes with you can always get some on the market both free and payed
Hey i would advice you also check out the droid x keyboard. Takes up a lot of keyboard real estate but it is super accurate. It also seems to be a whole lot more effective in landscape mode. No lie, on a good streak i can probably hit up to 20 words per minute. Mind you this is also the first phone without a hardware keyboard i am using. The autocorrect is also a thing of beauty.
Edit: just found out that you cannot do that with tasker. If anyone knows a workaround to allow this plz let me know.
Btw: i sent this msg from my vibrant using the droid x keyboard.
Also.immediately you get your phone replace the stock browser with dolphin hd. I feel it beats all other browsers out there. Getting a program like tasker and settiglng a rule where it switches your keyboards when screen orientaton changes would be a great idea. Swype for portrait and droid x for landscape.
I never thought I'd ever buy a smartphone without a real keyboard, but Swype really has me converted. I find it much quicker and easier to swype in portrait mode rather than landscape since the distance to travel is shorter.
I've been using better keyboard since my G1. I've tried others and still find better keyboard to be the best out of any keyboard. I love it, full multitouch support as well.
I placed my order for a new Vibrant for myself and a new white MyTouch Slide for my wife.
I will probably keep my G1 as a backup, and then get rid of my wifes original MyTouch on ebay.
Thanks for the posts. It made my choice easier. I don't know if I will be able to give up the physical keyboard or not, but if worse comes to worse I can always swap the Vibrant pretty easily for a new MyTouch Slide, right?
Rick
speoples20 said:
I've been using better keyboard since my G1. I've tried others and still find better keyboard to be the best out of any keyboard. I love it, full multitouch support as well.
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Its like an ex-girlfriend that you just keep running back to, yeah i always end up going back to Better keyboard too, it was one of the original replacement keyboards that not a lot of people had anything bad to say about
every time i get irritated with the rest of the keyboards i just go right back
I just received a text from t-mobile this morning saying that the g2 is
coming to tmobile. along with a link.
g2.t-mobile.com where you can sign up for updates in the up coming weeks.
I know there's been talk of a g2 for a while now, I was just wondering is
anyone knows anything about this.
Thanks
Just went to your link and tried to sign up, put in my name, email address, said I'm currently on t-mobile, and then it asked for my phone number. I put it in and clicked submit and I got an error as though my phone number was wrong. That changed the other fields, too.
It became
First name: ekmer
Last name: flores
E-mail address: [email protected]
Confirm e-mail address: [email protected]
What is going on?!
EDIT: Refreshed the page, tried again, it worked.. weird though.
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I just received a text from t-mobile this morning saying that the g2 is
coming to tmobile. along with a link.
g2.t-mobile.com where you can sign up for updates in the up coming weeks.
I know there's been talk of a g2 for a while now, I was just wondering is
anyone knows anything about this.
Thanks
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Ah, that would be the HTC VISION
Specifications are mostly subject to speculation, however we DO know that it gets a REAL KEYBOARD and has track-dot (whatever they're called -- rather than a mechanical ball), and should have some MIND BLOWING specifications, possibly including a DUAL CORE CPU (and we KNOW that Qualcomm has been shipping them to HTC) and probably 3G-world so that the same actual hardware will run on ALL the different networks (i.e. tmobile/wind AND att/robbers).
i will be happy if it has a full qwerty kb, 5 row. none of this nonsense 4 row kbs.
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Looks a lot like this:
Just looking at the pictures, they both have the same placement on the camera key on the left, and also the same style rounded corners. Plus they seem to be of similar thickness. I hope that I'm mistaken though, I would much rather hope for the keyboarded vision then a big screen mytouch.
I'm actually thinking my G1's successor will be the myTouch 3G HD, unless they mess it up. Last I heard, it'll have Espresso Sense.. but I may be able to put up with that. I don't think I'd mind not having a hardKB anymore.
John5788 said:
i will be happy if it has a full qwerty kb, 5 row. none of this nonsense 4 row kbs.
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A fifth row is irrelevant.
The problem with crap keyboard layouts isn't in the number of rows, it is in the key placements. The idiot layouts with the QAZ keys directly in-line vertically are horrid. As long as the key offsets are correct, the board will be fine.
And FYI: the fifth row is just for the numbers. Some special reason you can't push "alt"?
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A fifth row is irrelevant.
And FYI: the fifth row is just for the numbers. Some special reason you can't push "alt"?
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I can. I prefer not to.
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I can. I prefer not to.
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QFT.
and yes, the other requirement is to have properly offsetted keys. not a fan of the droid keyboard layout with everything perfectly aligned.
All bow to the prefferences and wishes of the ragin' cajun
I'm dissapointed to see the successor for the G1 has been keyboardless for the second time around, first the hero (g2 in europe) and now that ugly thing...
Nope, check engadget, phandroid, gizmodo...they all got the same pictures. the G2 will be the nexus one enterprise that was shown like a year ago..such a dissapointment really. The G1 was such a game changer, was hoping its successor would be also.
to everyone that hates on the 4 row keyboard, hit alt twice, put the numbers in, hit it once more and move on. and enjoy having keyboard keys bigger than an 1/8th of an inch. /rant.
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Nope, check engadget, phandroid, gizmodo...they all got the same pictures. the G2 will be the nexus one enterprise that was shown like a year ago..such a dissapointment really. The G1 was such a game changer, was hoping its successor would be also.
to everyone that hates on the 4 row keyboard, hit alt twice, put the numbers in, hit it once more and move on. and enjoy having keyboard keys bigger than an 1/8th of an inch. /rant.
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Just to cash in on the keyboard thing, the G1's keys aren't tiny, they're pretty much perfect. I've never been happier with a phone keyboard. It's all in design though. These new phones are all 3 or 4 row because they don't have the design of the G1, which uses pretty much the entire size of the phone for its keyboard.
Back more on topic though, I just checked out the new pics of it. Another odd keyboard mechanism, probably one of the only similarities between the G1 and G2 xP
I'm pretty confident that this is the phone in question.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/20/t-mobile-g2-again-this-time-with-less-mr-blurrycam/
I believe the g2 will be a dumped down nexus one with keyboard. And that's mainly because its going to be tmobile branded. But we will see what happens. I'm still trying to get a nexus tho
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Just to cash in on the keyboard thing, the G1's keys aren't tiny, they're pretty much perfect. I've never been happier with a phone keyboard. It's all in design though. These new phones are all 3 or 4 row because they don't have the design of the G1, which uses pretty much the entire size of the phone for its keyboard.
Back more on topic though, I just checked out the new pics of it. Another odd keyboard mechanism, probably one of the only similarities between the G1 and G2 xP
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I can palm a basketball no problem, the G1's keys are tiny to me.
This G2 actually uses the whole length of the phone, much more area than the G1, hence the bigger keys. If this is stock 2.2(or higher) i might, might replace my g1
Updated links for the g2
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/21/is-the-t-mobile-g2-a-worthy-successor/
This was seen on walmarts website and one major thing that people seem to be missing is that it says it's going to include HTC Sense.
What's everyone's thoughts?
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http://androidspin.com/2010/08/21/is-the-t-mobile-g2-a-worthy-successor/
This was seen on walmarts website and one major thing that people seem to be missing is that it says it's going to include HTC Sense.
What's everyone's thoughts?
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I like sense alot, so that would be great if it came with it. But i wish that it would come with a dual core processor. Or atleast a 1.2 ghz so it can atleast revolutionize the jump again. G1 did with first android, N1 did with first 1ghz, now hopefully the G2 can bump something up aswell. and yeah no front facing camera? damn... i'll probably wait for the project emerald if so.
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I like sense alot, so that would be great if it came with it. But i wish that it would come with a dual core processor. Or atleast a 1.2 ghz so it can atleast revolutionize the jump again. G1 did with first android, N1 did with first 1ghz, now hopefully the G2 can bump something up aswell. and yeah no front facing camera? damn... i'll probably wait for the project emerald if so.
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Project emerald is either the mytouch 3g HD which is nice looking or the htc sidekick twist
I am trying my best to like this new keyboard but can't get used to it. I used to be able to quickly type on the old one but this new one is giving me issues. Is there a learning curve or something?
Yeah, it's called Smart Keyboard Pro
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what google did was copy the keyboard from the droid x and just made the keys much smaller, which was their single biggest mistake and which explains some inaccuracy problems that people have been having, especially those with bigger/fatter fingers.
i use keyboard pro instead because i can adjust the size of the keys through the height adjustment feature. (yeah i have big hands/fingers). you can also adjust the multitouch sensitivity on it as well.
you can also download swype as an alternative from swype's website.
They need to make the space bar longer, and remove the period key. Pressing the space bar twice takes care of the period anyway.
I actually love the new android keyboard. I find it much more accurate than the froyo one. idk maybe its just me.
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I agree with the spacebar being too small so i switched to swiftkey pro. If the spacebar was bigger i would switch back
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what google did was copy the keyboard from the droid x and just made the keys much smaller
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Really? I always thought they copied the iPhone keyboard.
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But I see the hint of Droid X in it. And some iPhone too. Only slight button changes along the bottom.
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Yeah, it's called Smart Keyboard Pro
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Ya I downloaded and that is a whole lot better!
jaker.the.skater said:
I actually love the new android keyboard. I find it much more accurate than the froyo one. idk maybe its just me.
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Ditto. Gingerbread keyboard is the best one yet, imo.
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Ditto. Gingerbread keyboard is the best one yet, imo.
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I agree. I don't have as much errors on this one and it's the closest one to the iPhone keyboard (which was my favorite). On that 3.5" screen I was able to type out long text messages in portrait mode.
I think the oversensitivity of the Nexus S screen contributes to a lot of typoes and errors as well. Ever try holding your finger just above the screen, but not actually touching it? It'll register as a press. I'm sure when fast thumbs are glazing over the keyboard while typing, it causes mis-hits and repeated hits (like tthis or thiss - something that always happens to me). Oddly enough, sometimes the complete opposite will happen, when it doesn't register hits despite knowing I've hit the key (it'll have the popup preview). This happens especially with the keyboard (resulting in ths or tis, or things likethis). All annoying.
I've always been very critical of the Android typing experience. It's one of the few sore spots of the Android experience in general. Gingerbread stock is without question better than previous iterations, but it still pales in comparison to typing on an iPhone (or even an iPod touch). Anyone who has typed extensively on one would know the difference. I'm sure it's a combination of both hardware and software that makes it so successful; I can type with utter confidence on an iPhone/iPod Touch.
I wish I could say the same for Android. I'm hoping Blindtype will be implemented soon and change all this. I'm also hoping they'll grow a brain and depart from Apple by including features like Custom Auto-Correction. Until then, alternatives help. The new "optimized for Gingerbread" Better Keyboard 8 is quite good. Smart Keyboard Pro is good too (love the Custom Auto-Correction feature).
Menace II Society said:
Really? I always thought they copied the iPhone keyboard.
But I see the hint of Droid X in it. And some iPhone too. Only slight button changes along the bottom.
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yeah moreso the droid x then the apple one, check the pic out. i always used the droid x apk on my older android devices and i thought this new one would be the same or an improvement. i guess i thought wrong but hey that's just my opinion.
The 2.3 keyboard is just too small. Measure it to smart keyboard or swift key and you will see what I mean.
I'm using swype and love it.
I use it, I have to admit... I am still learning how to hit the keys just right. However, it is an amazing keyboard, love it.
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Menace II Society said:
I agree. I don't have as much errors on this one and it's the closest one to the iPhone keyboard (which was my favorite). On that 3.5" screen I was able to type out long text messages in portrait mode.
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Adding a vote for the Gingerbread keyboard too. Everytime I have to go back to the Froyo keyboard on friends' devices or my work phone, I find it much harder to type on than my Nexus S. I used to always need the haptic feedback turned on with the Froyo keyboard too, but I haven't bothered turning it on with this keyboard.
I like the gingerbread keyboard. I type a wee bit faster than I did with the froyo KB.
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jaker.the.skater said:
I actually love the new android keyboard. I find it much more accurate than the froyo one. idk maybe its just me.
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I'm also in love with the new Android keyboard. It may be smaller but it is more accurate than froyo. I don't have the biggest hands in the world but my hands are not small either.
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So I was on the fence about switching from my iPhone 6+ to the Note5 and when I tried it in the store, one feature sealed the deal. Amazingly, I haven't seen it mentioned in ANY review I've read or watched all over the web. Samsung should be focusing on this in their marketing efforts too. I'm referring to the one handed REDUCE SCREEN SIZE mode. With a simple triple tap of the home button, the entire screen shifts down into what is likely fully one hand operable by almost hand size. This is genius to me and a world more useful on a (let's face it) huge phone than Apple's stupid and awkward Reachability thing which just shifts the interface halfway down the screen.
Am I crazy for thinking this is such a big deal??
maybe because it's been around on a number of Androids for a while now. it's not really a new thing. it's one of the features i give iPhoners as a reason to switching over to larger-screened Androids since before the G2 and N3.
i just recently mentioned it here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3191803
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You are right and this is quite useful for me especially since I spend half of my commute to work in a crowded train where i can really use just one hand
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triple tap on home button doesnt work for me....
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triple tap on home button doesnt work for me....
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Never having owned an iPhone till my company gave me a 6, i can understand why nixonx loves this.
The iPhone ui puts the back arrow waaaay in the upper left of the screen. What a completely dumb thing since they dont have a back button built in at the bottom like android does.
Yeah this is a good feature for using the phone while driving, to quickly reply to email or text. (Not recommended to use your phone while driving)
iPhone has same "feature" called reachability. Not new for either device.
S5 has a similar feature too (one handed mode)
Apple with their obsession to be retard-friendly, with 1 button on their smart devices and 1 button computer mouse...
DAvid_B said:
Never having owned an iPhone till my company gave me a 6, i can understand why nixonx loves this.
The iPhone ui puts the back arrow waaaay in the upper left of the screen. What a completely dumb thing since they dont have a back button built in at the bottom like android does.
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I agree, but I've since learnt that there's a left-swipe gesture you can use to go back on iOS which is pretty effective
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The note 4 also had a one handed mode where you can adjust screen size
I don't post often but this thread is just ridiculous. First off, the iPhone also has this feature called "Reachability" starting with the iPhone 6. It's not pressing the iPhones home button but rather "tapping" on the home button twice. This brings down the screen to use in one handed mode.
djrbx said:
I don't post often but this thread is just ridiculous. First off, the iPhone also has this feature called "Reachability" starting with the iPhone 6. It's not pressing the iPhones home button but rather "tapping" on the home button twice. This brings down the screen to use in one handed mode.
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Is there an echo in here?
i think most phablets have one handed mode thesedays anyway
Ya if your new to notes its pretty neat. Its been on the last couple notes though. U just got to it a different way but same concept
If ur use to half ass iphone concepts like the accesability feature when u double tap the home button it seems like this is a more realistic one handed feature
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iPhone has same "feature" called reachability. Not new for either device.
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djrbx said:
I don't post often but this thread is just ridiculous. First off, the iPhone also has this feature called "Reachability" starting with the iPhone 6. It's not pressing the iPhones home button but rather "tapping" on the home button twice. This brings down the screen to use in one handed mode.
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Is there an echo in here?
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As someone who switched from an iPhone 6+ (8 months with the device) to a Note 5, I can attest that Apple's 'Reachability' feature is a fairly half ass effort at improving one handed usability and no where near as useful as reducing the entire screen to thumb reachable. First of all, activating it is hit or miss experience that led me to rarely attempting it because the 'double light tap' needs to be done pretty perfectly for it to work the first time. From a usability standpoint, it doesn't bring things on the far side of the screen any closer to your thumb horizontally, it merely brings them lower, meaning you still have to reach to the far side. It was also not always predictable as to when it would jump the screen back up to normal mode and it always felt more like a bug than a feature and many reviewers felt the same about this.
As for it being available on the Note 4, I find the home button triple press to be a faster and 100% reliable activation method.
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As someone who switched from an iPhone 6+ (8 months with the device) to a Note 5, I can attest that Apple's 'Reachability' feature is a fairly half ass effort at improving one handed usability and no where near as useful as reducing the entire screen to thumb reachable. First of all, activating it is hit or miss experience that led me to rarely attempting it because the 'double light tap' needs to be done pretty perfectly for it to work the first time. From a usability standpoint, it doesn't bring things on the far side of the screen any closer to your thumb horizontally, it merely brings them lower, meaning you still have to reach to the far side. It was also not always predictable as to when it would jump the screen back up to normal mode and it always felt more like a bug than a feature and many reviewers felt the same about this.
As for it being available on the Note 4, I find the home button triple press to be a faster and 100% reliable activation method.
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I agree that it isn't like Sammy's implementation of reaching things, but there were some aspects of it that I did like, which mostly had to do with being able to add additional apps to utilise that open space, such as Carpe Diem and Reach App.
as far as not being able to reach the far corner, there was an app called MyReachability that brought the opposite corner closer to your thumb. it's kind of lousy though. and yeah, the light double-tapping to actually take was a bit annoying.
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i have used the feature a handful of times, but I think it should be slightly larger. The size that it shrinks down to feels even smaller than the iPhone 4's screen size.... I think it should be just ever so slightly larger.
I second that.
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