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Epic 4G Game Pad mod

Hey guys,
After a month of planning and waiting, I finally went ahead and modded the physical keyboard on my Epic 4G.
If you want the entire story you can read it on my blog here:
http://www.brainlazy.com/article/technology/epic-4g-game-pad-mod/
However, if you just want to see the end result, you can check it out on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2407W5bIae8
Or if you don't want to click any of the links and just want to know how it came out?
Presentation: 5 out of 10
Performance: 9 out of 10
Hope you guys like the mod.

Nice work Did u take out the other keys u don't use out or u covered them
How come the evo cant do this? Sorry i could not resist
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I took out the other keys. It's actually pretty easy to take the keys out too. Just get an exacto knife and it will slide right underneath. The keys are only held together in the center, not all around.

wow man. I must say that i'm impressed.
I really like it. you seem more than adept with your epic gaming system!

thephawx said:
I took out the other keys. It's actually pretty easy to take the keys out too. Just get an exacto knife and it will slide right underneath. The keys are only held together in the center, not all around.
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Ouch that sounds??? Not good...I don't think I could do that...Maybe there's a way to cover those buttons that are not in use, and also disable them

OMG dude.. i am HIGHLY IMPRESSED! Would you think about starting a service, performing this task on other phones?
How difficult/time consuming is it? If we can workout the terms, i would love to have this done to my phone? Also, how likely would it be for us to raise the keys a bit? They arent very pronounced.

I couldn't do it but it defintely works fine. Glad your happy!

@Phen0m
Originally, I wanted to create a replacement keypad. Instead of having the keyboard, you'd open up the Epic and insert the new game pad.
I suppose I could continue work on that, this way I could sell the gamepad by itself to users so they could install it themselves.
But, I don't know how many people would honestly be interested in buying that.

If my effing proxy at work would cooperate I could view it. The website is blocked, but youtube isn't...funny how that works.

that is pretty cool unfortunatly i use my keypad too much and i cant find a free copy of the full droidemu, as iv no credit card to buy off the market.

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@Phen0m
Originally, I wanted to create a replacement keypad. Instead of having the keyboard, you'd open up the Epic and insert the new game pad.
I suppose I could continue work on that, this way I could sell the gamepad by itself to users so they could install it themselves.
But, I don't know how many people would honestly be interested in buying that.
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I'd be interested... as I've been thinking of ways to pull this off myself. The keyboard in it's default state isn't that great for gaming.

diablo
please tell me how to do this
where to get it and what program to use
thanks

@<3me
psxdroid and diablo psx rom

Thank you very much!
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@<3me
psxdroid and diablo psx rom
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I saw this on engadget. You could have waited for the gamegrip being developed for the Epic...

@Xhyperion
The game gripper isn't for me. I was looking for more of a PSPgo type of device. I'm not a fan of add-ons and stuff that I have to carry around.
For example, as soon as the Seidio battery extender comes out, I'm picking that up. I don't want to carry around additional batteries. I'm willing to deal with a little extra bulk if it means that my phone lasts twice as long.
Even though it's not for everyone, this is now the perfect device for me.

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@Xhyperion
The game gripper isn't for me. I was looking for more of a PSPgo type of device. I'm not a fan of add-ons and stuff that I have to carry around.
For example, as soon as the Seidio battery extender comes out, I'm picking that up. I don't want to carry around additional batteries. I'm willing to deal with a little extra bulk if it means that my phone lasts twice as long.
Even though it's not for everyone, this is now the perfect device for me.
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I use that keyboard setup on a normal computer and ive tried it with the epic but the other buttons do get in the way sometime so I can see how this can make gaming better I just don't wanna mutilate my baby.

Xhyperion said:
I use that keyboard setup on a normal computer and ive tried it with the epic but the other buttons do get in the way sometime so I can see how this can make gaming better I just don't wanna mutilate my baby.
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Very cool, I do agree with Xhyperion tho. I dont want to make my baby look crummy with out keys. plus i use the keyboard for alot of things.

Hey, what's your take on the keyboard skipping key presses, as discussed over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782203
Obviously it looks like your keyboard is registering every press. Do you know if you had any problems before you modded it?

thephawx said:
@Phen0m
Originally, I wanted to create a replacement keypad. Instead of having the keyboard, you'd open up the Epic and insert the new game pad.
I suppose I could continue work on that, this way I could sell the gamepad by itself to users so they could install it themselves.
But, I don't know how many people would honestly be interested in buying that.
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Well, im not sure either, but i know i would purchase one. I dont use my keypad for typing at all.. only gaming, and the extras keys.. are just that..extras. Definitely keep us posted!

Who misses the old Android keyboard?

I am trying my best to like this new keyboard but can't get used to it. I used to be able to quickly type on the old one but this new one is giving me issues. Is there a learning curve or something?

Yeah, it's called Smart Keyboard Pro
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what google did was copy the keyboard from the droid x and just made the keys much smaller, which was their single biggest mistake and which explains some inaccuracy problems that people have been having, especially those with bigger/fatter fingers.
i use keyboard pro instead because i can adjust the size of the keys through the height adjustment feature. (yeah i have big hands/fingers). you can also adjust the multitouch sensitivity on it as well.
you can also download swype as an alternative from swype's website.

They need to make the space bar longer, and remove the period key. Pressing the space bar twice takes care of the period anyway.

I actually love the new android keyboard. I find it much more accurate than the froyo one. idk maybe its just me.
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I agree with the spacebar being too small so i switched to swiftkey pro. If the spacebar was bigger i would switch back

ryan562 said:
what google did was copy the keyboard from the droid x and just made the keys much smaller
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Really? I always thought they copied the iPhone keyboard.
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But I see the hint of Droid X in it. And some iPhone too. Only slight button changes along the bottom.

c_licious said:
Yeah, it's called Smart Keyboard Pro
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Ya I downloaded and that is a whole lot better!

jaker.the.skater said:
I actually love the new android keyboard. I find it much more accurate than the froyo one. idk maybe its just me.
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Ditto. Gingerbread keyboard is the best one yet, imo.

brianbrain said:
Ditto. Gingerbread keyboard is the best one yet, imo.
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I agree. I don't have as much errors on this one and it's the closest one to the iPhone keyboard (which was my favorite). On that 3.5" screen I was able to type out long text messages in portrait mode.

I think the oversensitivity of the Nexus S screen contributes to a lot of typoes and errors as well. Ever try holding your finger just above the screen, but not actually touching it? It'll register as a press. I'm sure when fast thumbs are glazing over the keyboard while typing, it causes mis-hits and repeated hits (like tthis or thiss - something that always happens to me). Oddly enough, sometimes the complete opposite will happen, when it doesn't register hits despite knowing I've hit the key (it'll have the popup preview). This happens especially with the keyboard (resulting in ths or tis, or things likethis). All annoying.
I've always been very critical of the Android typing experience. It's one of the few sore spots of the Android experience in general. Gingerbread stock is without question better than previous iterations, but it still pales in comparison to typing on an iPhone (or even an iPod touch). Anyone who has typed extensively on one would know the difference. I'm sure it's a combination of both hardware and software that makes it so successful; I can type with utter confidence on an iPhone/iPod Touch.
I wish I could say the same for Android. I'm hoping Blindtype will be implemented soon and change all this. I'm also hoping they'll grow a brain and depart from Apple by including features like Custom Auto-Correction. Until then, alternatives help. The new "optimized for Gingerbread" Better Keyboard 8 is quite good. Smart Keyboard Pro is good too (love the Custom Auto-Correction feature).

Menace II Society said:
Really? I always thought they copied the iPhone keyboard.
But I see the hint of Droid X in it. And some iPhone too. Only slight button changes along the bottom.
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yeah moreso the droid x then the apple one, check the pic out. i always used the droid x apk on my older android devices and i thought this new one would be the same or an improvement. i guess i thought wrong but hey that's just my opinion.

The 2.3 keyboard is just too small. Measure it to smart keyboard or swift key and you will see what I mean.

I'm using swype and love it.

I use it, I have to admit... I am still learning how to hit the keys just right. However, it is an amazing keyboard, love it.
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Menace II Society said:
I agree. I don't have as much errors on this one and it's the closest one to the iPhone keyboard (which was my favorite). On that 3.5" screen I was able to type out long text messages in portrait mode.
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Adding a vote for the Gingerbread keyboard too. Everytime I have to go back to the Froyo keyboard on friends' devices or my work phone, I find it much harder to type on than my Nexus S. I used to always need the haptic feedback turned on with the Froyo keyboard too, but I haven't bothered turning it on with this keyboard.

I like the gingerbread keyboard. I type a wee bit faster than I did with the froyo KB.
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jaker.the.skater said:
I actually love the new android keyboard. I find it much more accurate than the froyo one. idk maybe its just me.
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I'm also in love with the new Android keyboard. It may be smaller but it is more accurate than froyo. I don't have the biggest hands in the world but my hands are not small either.
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Any new keyboards?

I have been using the stock Honeycomb keyboard and wanted to try something better ( well I think it's the fact that the Honeycomb keyboard has similar issues that the Gingerbread keyboard suffers from as well). I am right now typing this on my Xoom using the Thumb Keyboard 4.0 beta. I have tried the Tablet Keyboard on the market but it's just too slow and there is no multitouch compared to the Honeycomb keyboard. However the Thumb Keyboard Aldo lacks multi touch. Anyone know of an underground keyboard that no one knows of that I could try? I'm open to any other keyboard than the ones I have named. Preferably I would like something like the stock keyboard, thumb keyboard is great but it has a pretty big learning curve.
Thanks
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Unfortunately the swift key beta is private and I was lucky enough to sign up for it when I had the chance and I can say it's awesome. When it comes out I think you'll be pleased.

Here I will type with the Android keyboard right now, it works great and I love it but sometimes when I type words such as back, it will repeat the CK at the end, which getts pretty annoying. I love this keyboard because it has the ease of access of smilies, comma, apostrophe, period, and dash plus forward slash. That's why I hate thumb keyboard. It doesn't have quick access to these, so it feels like a very unnatural experience when I type.
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I'm not trying to sway you but Thumb Keyboard has easy access to all the things you just mentioned...
I've also tried Tablet Keyboard, it's like a free version of Thumb Keyboard. It's good but, to me, not as nice as TK.

burden010 said:
I'm not trying to sway you but Thumb Keyboard has easy access to all the things you just mentioned...
I've also tried Tablet Keyboard, it's like a free version of Thumb Keyboard. It's good but, to me, not as nice as TK.
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Well, it's just on the Android Stock Keyboard, you get access to all of that right there on the lower right hand corner of the keyboard, you don't need to tap onto the symbols button to access the rest. I like Android Keyboard, I enjoyed the Tablet Keyboard, but it's just so lacking in features. Are there really no more keyboards available for Android? Anyone here making one? I would be willing to beta test.
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I think it takes some getting used to
the thumb keyboard looks good for when you are holding the xoom at the same time - so you can access all the letters with just the thumbs!
my main gripe with it was the lack of long-press-numbers from the front keyboard layout - but holding the num button and pressing a key works alright

Thumb Keyboard is by far the best keyboard for Android Tablets. As stated before...it does take a little getting used to...but once you do you can type 2x to 3x faster then with stock...atleast that is how it is for my wife and I (we each have a Xoom).
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+1 for Thumb Keyboard. Getting so used to it I don't think I'll ever use a different layout.

Thumb KB all the way. Very customizable
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Same here re: Thumb Keyboard. I love it. Don't need to go to the symbols layout for those characters; just need to long-press the right keys.

I really wouldn't mind thumb keyboard if it also had a full regular QWERTY keyboard lay out, because sometimes I use my Xoom on my lap and it's just very fast and comfortable to type with a full keyboard.
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I know you've tried it and it's not what you're looking for but Tablet Keyboard has that option. Would like to see some more development of Tablet Keyboard actually, it's a good project. I might donate.

burden010 said:
I know you've tried it and it's not what you're looking for but Tablet Keyboard has that option. Would like to see some more development of Tablet Keyboard actually, it's a good project. I might donate.
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I actually tried the Tablet Keyboard again, it works well and I would be willing to learn and get used to it but the fact is that it has no multi touch, and the biggest downside is that there ate no auto correct options. It's a great keyboard but just not worth getting the time to get used to it. So far the Android keyboard is the best one to me, and thhat is sad considering that it makes mistakes like the one I just typed, and it sometimes auto double spaces for somme reason. Honestly we need a better keyboard, I still might have hope with Swift Keyboard, it actually looks pretty good.
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Try the new SwiftKey beta. To get in the beta follow them on twitter and they'll send you a code to register.
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vincentm said:
Try the new SwiftKey beta. To get in the beta follow them on twitter and they'll send you a code to register.
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Lol?
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Smokexz said:
I really wouldn't mind thumb keyboard if it also had a full regular QWERTY keyboard lay out, because sometimes I use my Xoom on my lap and it's just very fast and comfortable to type with a full keyboard.
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umm I thought TK had a full qwerty, at least mine does, though no numbers, unless that is what you are referring to. In that case disregard my post.
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https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/kaPGkUvxYIKKkSbBIkhkphtW0tPWiatBjvlr7cjhhtM?feat=directlink

Thumb Keyboard! It's the best money I've spent on the Android Market so far. It takes a few minutes to get used to, and the number keys are a bit of a stretch, but other than that, it's great.
I just installed WritePad too but mostly for kicks and giggles. I don't think there's any chance that WritePad will be faster or more efficient than Thumb Keyboard.

I like Thumb, used it for a week (the beta)
but Swiftkey is just awesome. If you're lucky enough to have access to their vip forum... get it!

I use Thumb keyboard. Its the best
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[DISCUSS] What keyboard do you use?

Hey I was just wondering what keyboard you use.
Post the keyboard you use and screenshots If possible. Also tell us why.
I use SwiftKeyx because it was 10p and its awesome.
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Smart Keyboard Pro, easily the best of the 'normal' keyboards. Gives that almost psychic correction that the iPhone has.
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Smart Keyboard Pro.
Works best with 190 dpi, and has a nice feel to it.
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Old and great Better Keyboard 8, unfortunately unavailable to get from the market now
Fast, reliable, I just can't use any other keyboard. On my previous phone - X8 it was just perfect.
I hate keyboards like swype or predict-like where you can't switch it off, because I'm very very VERY fast typer and I mistype very rarely so I don't need any help in entering text.

I just use the stock keyboard, i see no reason why it would need replacing

TouchPal. Looks like the iPhone keyboard but has swype and better options.

Swiftkey x. Best keyboard I've ever used on any phone EVER. Better than any other Android keyboard and certainly better than the autocorrect failure on IOS.

I use one of the "Ice Cream Sandwich" Keyboards and love it:
https://market.android.com/details?id=inputmethod.latin.ported
Hold Option Hardware Button for minimize the Keyboard every time...
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+1 To swift key ... Used swype and the default keyboard before but they werent as good with tap-to-type for obvious reasons + swiftkeys predictions are much better.

Been using Swype pretty much since day 1 of my Xperia Play.
I got mine themed. And it's looking gooood.

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Swiftkey x. Best keyboard I've ever used on any phone EVER. Better than any other Android keyboard and certainly better than the autocorrect failure on IOS.
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Assume you don't appreciate how the apple one works then, a lot of people don't.
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Sweet checking out some of the mentioned keyboards. Seems SwiftKeyx is quite popular
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Assume you don't appreciate how the apple one works then, a lot of people don't.
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There is nothing for me to "appreciate". I have used it for many hours and I struggle to type as accurately and as quickly as I can using the popular android keyboards. The auto correction is absolutely atrocious and the key calibration is garbage. Zero customisability too.

I absolutely love the stock one but it lacks the microphone feature.
So i wanted something that had microphone and swype. I ended up choosing Go Keyboard and I'm pretty satisfied with it except there is a small part at the bottom of the screen which is not reactive, hard sometimes to hit space because of that.

I use thumb keyboard
i think they took it off the market tho. have to find the apk somewhere :\
it rocks tho, so easy to use

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There is nothing for me to "appreciate". I have used it for many hours and I struggle to type as accurately and as quickly as I can using the popular android keyboards. The auto correction is absolutely atrocious and the key calibration is garbage. Zero customisability too.
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I was right then!
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Keep them coming
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I used to use swiftkey x. but found a better one (at least for me) ULTRA KEYBOARD. it has the option to use swipe or not. you can also use gestures to enter symbols or hide the keyboard or delete words etc. several dictionaries. copy/paste/delete. suggestions (on/off) replacements (if I type tkvm it writes thank you very much (and you can personalize the suggestion)). themes.every one that is in the market. translator,... lots of more things... i recommended it

I use Swype because I'm super fast with it compared to regular touch typing. In certain apps I found the auto correction to be annoying though so it's disabled.
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The official 2.3.4 R800a FW for NA has a extra configuration key that shortens my space bar compared to AT&T 2.3.3 R800at FW. How do I get rid of it or switch back to the one with a bigger space bar? I backed eveything up with Titanium Backup and loaded the keyboard backup but I don't see an option for it.

Moto Z keyboard Mod coming to Indiegogo!!!

Forget the BlackBerry. There will be an Indiegogo Campaign for a Moto Z slider keyboard. The best form factor including Ctrl and Tab https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/physical-keyboard-slider-mod-for-moto-z/coming_soon
Finally!
Update (03.03.2017):
The campaign is going to start today at 12:00 noon UK time. (GMT +0).
It will cost 60 USD for Super Early Birds and the regular price after Indiegogo will be 120 USD. The keyboard will be flippable as well.
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interesting

HibikiTaisuna said:
Forget the BlackBerry. There will be an Indiegogo Campaign for a Moto Z slider keyboard. The best form factor including Ctrl and Tab https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/physical-keyboard-slider-mod-for-moto-z/coming_soon
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That would be a killer!!!

Oh yes! I knew I bought this phone for a reason

This is going to be interesting. I was hoping for something like this when I bought the phone. I am just wondering if it is better for the keyboard to slide from the side or just from the bottom like in the BB Priv.

ponde said:
This is going to be interesting. I was hoping for something like this when I bought the phone. I am just wondering if it is better for the keyboard to slide from the side or just from the bottom like in the BB Priv.
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IMHO it is much more useful from the side. A vertical slider doesn't make much sense as you already have much vertical space on your display to read a message history f.e.. As soon as you hold your phone horizontally more than half of the display is blocked by the keyboard and on many phones you can't even browse your past messages without closing the keyboard. With a physical horizontal keyboard you can still read mails and/or messages - thinking of split screen with mail on one side and Signal, Threema or Google Search on the other - and type in each app by selecting it.

Landscape sliders can be incredibly useful, especially when they tilt. This one doesn't tilt yet, but the devs said they'd consider it. Once you add tilt to the mix, the keyboard becomes a media stand for netflixing et al, a insanely good ereader (lock the reader app in portrait, hold the phone like a book with your thumb over the arrow keys and use them to turn pages), and of course, more ergonomic for normal typing use and less annoying in re: glare. Having multitasking now, as hibiki mentions, is all the more reason for one. I hope this one turns out great. I do wish they'd offset the keys as the best of the last generation of landscape sliders did (HTC touch pros and droids) rather than just a grid like that, but if it tilts, I'll overlook that.
Also, what's good for any QWERTY enthusiasts is probably good for them all. If this one sells well, you can bet other form factors, including the treo/BB style portrait boards, will eventually be made as well. The first thing I thought of when I saw the Moto Z for the first time was a keyboard renaissance.

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Landscape sliders can be incredibly useful, especially when they tilt. This one doesn't tilt yet, but the devs said they'd consider it. Once you add tilt to the mix, the keyboard becomes a media stand for netflixing et al, a insanely good ereader (lock the reader app in portrait, hold the phone like a book with your thumb over the arrow keys and use them to turn pages), and of course, more ergonomic for normal typing use and less annoying in re: glare. Having multitasking now, as hibiki mentions, is all the more reason for one. I hope this one turns out great. I do wish they'd offset the keys as the best of the last generation of landscape sliders did (HTC touch pros and droids) rather than just a grid like that, but if it tilts, I'll overlook that.
Also, what's good for any QWERTY enthusiasts is probably good for them all. If this one sells well, you can bet other form factors, including the treo/BB style portrait boards, will eventually be made as well. The first thing I thought of when I saw the Moto Z for the first time was a keyboard renaissance.
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Just posting to completely agree with this. I have zero interest in a portrait physical keyboard, but always liked landscape sliders.

While this maybe a nice idea, am I the only one that notices the fatal flaw... there is no way of ever using the camera while the keyboard is in the retracted mode. The only way would be, to have to pull out the keyboard to allow the lens to be exposed.

Jimi Mack said:
While this maybe a nice idea, am I the only one that notices the fatal flaw... there is no way of ever using the camera while the keyboard is in the retracted mode. The only way would be, to have to pull out the keyboard to allow the lens to be exposed.
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Opening the keyboard doesn't feel like much of a chore for me, and it's not like the keyboard has to be attached at all times. If lots of pictures need to be taken for a while, toss the mod for a few hours. Fatal flaw? Different strokes I guess.
There's someone floating an eink mod right now with a short screen so as to not cover the lens. Personally I'd just as soon have it cover the camera and be a decent sized-screen.

The campaign is going to start today at 12:00 noon UK time. (GMT +0).
It will cost 60 USD for Super Early Birds and the regular price after Indiegogo will be 120 USD. The keyboard will be flippable as well.

will it fit on Moto Z Play? I think so...

klofisch said:
will it fit on Moto Z Play? I think so...
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It would be surprising if not, as it is a Moto Z line compatible Mod.

Dann schauen wir mal.....

The campaign looks promising. The keyboards checks all boxes for me. Tiltable, backlit and horizontal slider. I wish I could afford the special edition though. That cyan looks really smexy

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/physical-keyboard-mod-for-moto-z/x/16122878#/
It's live now. Thank you for all the support!

I backed it. They added tilt and I'm over the moon. I haven't seen a keyboard this good since 2010.

Backed it! Finally, a good 5 row slider keyboard for a high end phone! This project must succeed, spread the word!

I'm gonna support it. I already bought two. Ive been wanting a new phone w/ a physical keyboard for so long. My last phone before this one was the Droid 4

I voted to buy but only for the camera hole version.
I have my favorite keyboard....
Edit, I would be on fence til I demo'ed it.
My KB is the Bomb!
Editing features as good as these would be a must
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71059858&postcount=1