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http://www.thoughtgadgets.com/2007/11/game-over-3-reasons-why-google-android.html
Ok, so this is of course old news, I just stumbled over the article by accident a few minutes ago and thought I'd share because of the hilarity of it all. It was a pretty laughable article in 2007, but even more so now when Android is in full swing and is getting better by the month and more and more manufacturers joins the OHA.
Hindsight 20/20 and all that, but most of us hardcore Androiders knew Android would not fail, despite what a few self-proclaimed experts said on their blogs. We knew it even as far back as 2007/2008. Ben Kunz obviously didn't, though.
Lol just read this Ben Kunz what a MOD EDIT
think of your choice of wording when you post.
thank you
I remember reading this a long time ago. I laughed then, but it is even funnier now. The comments are almost equally funny.
To answer Ben Kunz article
Android to grow faster than iPhone in 2009?
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/05/11/android.to.grow.900pc/
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Android to grow faster than iPhone in 2009?
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/05/11/android.to.grow.900pc/
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It's heartening news, but you gotta consider that percentage growth is one of those marketing spin numbers. A platform that is selling 1M units in 2008 experiencing a 900% growth sells an additional 9M. A platform selling 10M units in 2008 only has to grow 90% to experience the same increase in sales growth.
Well, to be honest, if the G1 looked like that prototype picture...I wouldn't have bought it. That is one seriously ugly looking phone with a tiny ass screen.
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Well, to be honest, if the G1 looked like that prototype picture...I wouldn't have bought it. That is one seriously ugly looking phone with a tiny ass screen.
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True, but as a self-proclaimed expert on all things tech he should of course have known Android is not about hardware (let alone about prototype hardware). Android is about software.
I knew that as soon as I first heard and read about Android back in 2007, I bet you knew that, and I also bet most people on this forum knew that -- we knew the possibilities was and is almost endless. Ben Kunz, however, did not. And he wrote a downright stupid article about it, showing off his ignorance.
It did bring us lots of amusement though, so kudos to Ben for making a fool out of himself
Think about google as a company. Starting with a school project and growing to what is now. Everything google owns is destined to succeed. They have a huge master plan and everything they do/own is tied into each other in one way or another.
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Think about google as a company. Starting with a school project and growing to what is now. Everything google owns is destined to succeed. They have a huge master plan and everything they do/own is tied into each other in one way or another.
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You mean they have synergy? LOL
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Well, to be honest, if the G1 looked like that prototype picture...I wouldn't have bought it. That is one seriously ugly looking phone with a tiny ass screen.
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I've got one of the prototype phones for testing... while its no G1, the keyboard is a lot nicer to use. For folks who just want a simple lightweight texting phone, I can see it being pretty attractive.
Some pix:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jashsu/EXCA300?authkey=Gv1sRgCMjAkfWGiaD0Tw#
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I've got one of the prototype phones for testing... while its no G1, the keyboard is a lot nicer to use. For folks who just want a simple lightweight texting phone, I can see it being pretty attractive.
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"Main screen turn on" -- That's absolutely brilliant!
1 reason why that article fails.
Android is awsome.
Nuff' said.
Sure won't turn to them for marketing advice lol.
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Sure won't turn to them for marketing advice lol.
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Well, maybe you could ask him for advice and then always do the exact opposite. I bet that would be a pretty effective strategy.
Sounds like he was one of the kids that mommy wouldn't buy him a RAZR so now he is having a temper tantrum. lol
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I've got one of the prototype phones for testing... while its no G1, the keyboard is a lot nicer to use. For folks who just want a simple lightweight texting phone, I can see it being pretty attractive.
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I hear what you are saying, but lets...for arguments sake...equate a cell phone to a woman (no offense to women...but its the best modern day analogy I can make at the moment).
Okay, men (in this case the generic term "men" means "customers") look for a woman, they want it all...sexy, intelligent, and able to do a lot of things (interpret that as you see fit).
A G1 fits most of that. A G1, while not the sexiest in the world, is decent enough looking...but what she lacks in looks she makes up for by being highly intelligent and capable of performing a variety of tasks you may hope she can do...as a woman.
The Android prototype in the picture may be able to do a lot of tasks, but she can't do everything...and, while intelligent, she is seriously to fat (wide), to short (squat and square) and way too fricken ugly to really be considered anything more than a friend (like when you look at your buddies cell phone that was a free give-away for signing a contract).
Now, to really get the whole package, Android phones need to take a page from Apple's book and make something super sexy like an iPhone with all the other Android and tech components in the G1...only with longer battery life.
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Well, maybe you could ask him for advice and then always do the exact opposite. I bet that would be a pretty effective strategy.
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Haha yeah that might work huh?
Honestly, I'm not too attracted to the iphone. It's plane, too skinny to be comfy, has one button, not my type. Maybe if she was the last girl in the bar at the end of the night i'd take her home, but i'd leave before she woke up and deny it to my friends..
The exact reason why Android based phones are going to blow away Apple and Blackberry.
http://www.googleandblog.com/adobe-...d-at-mobile-world-congress-in-barcelona/3785/
HAHA at "not even close".... suckers.
Apple did a good job selling it's next product, as usual. it announced a product and with it a firm release date in the very near future.
In contrast, Google screwed up the FroYo release as much as they possibly can. Google I/O announced FroYo on May 20th, with no firm date for release. That was just a few days short of three weeks ago.
Okay, so I am not worried about it to the point that I am ready to go all iPhone on your butts, I am just pointing out that Google has a lot to learn about rolling out a product.
They absolutely do.
Google is acting like a bunch of freaking amateurs.
I'm not the least bit interested in the iPhone, but I am jealous that they guys running Apple seem more professional and capable than do the folks running Google/Android.
It's embarrassing.
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Apple did a good job selling it's next product, as usual. it announced a product and with it a firm release date in the very near future.
In contrast, Google screwed up the FroYo release as much as they possibly can. Google I/O announced FroYo on May 20th, with no firm date for release. That was just a few days short of three weeks ago.
Okay, so I am not worried about it to the point that I am ready to go all iPhone on your butts, I am just pointing out that Google has a lot to learn about rolling out a product.
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Honestly, I feel the same way. Google I/O was great, but it was all just fluff. We didn't get anything solid. Nothing. Google can take some lessons here about giving people something they can hold on too. "Few Weeks" is not enough. I think one of the main reasons that people aren't out in front of Google with pitch forks and torches is that they "leaked" a 2.2 early release so we have a taste of it and something to play with.
All in all, I agree with you 100%, Google has a lot to learn.
On the flip side -
Apple introduced iAds today like they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. Well, hold the phone (lousy pun intended - deal), those little banners consume data. No biggie data is unlimit- whoa wait. Not it's not. Not anymore on Apple's carrier of choice in the USA.
I don't care how little data those little banners use - to promote a system that not only allows their use but encourages it at the expense of a user locked into a tiered data plan is reprehensible. Does anyone else see an ethical problem with this?
Then there is the practical issue - a user is at the hairy edge of his allotment without buying more data - well except for those pesky little banners that put him over the top. Nice job, Steve Jobs, you butthole.
Likewise, I think any Android PAID app should have all ad banners removed. I know this is a common practice, but it should be a rule. No app with banners should be available at all without a paid counterpart without banners, IMO.
Well sure we don't have a solid release date yet... but we also get more updates then 1 per year. Think on the bright side. At least Froyo 2.2 is already out, if not officially. I don't understand your complaining. Android can already do what the iPhone is just not catching up to.
If our Androids ran on Apple time... we wouldn't see 2.2 until next January. Again, be happy you don't have to wait that long. Be lucky we get what we get. Plus 2.1 runs great anyway.
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we wouldn't see 2.2 until next January. .
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at the rate Google is going.....
player911 said:
Well sure we don't have a solid release date yet... but we also get more updates then 1 per year. Think on the bright side. At least Froyo 2.2 is already out, if not officially. I don't understand your complaining. Android can already do what the iPhone is just not catching up to.
If our Androids ran on Apple time... we wouldn't see 2.2 until next January. Again, be happy you don't have to wait that long. Be lucky we get what we get. Plus 2.1 runs great anyway.
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No, not complaining, stating some facts.
Apple = Solid release dates announced
Google = Vague mentions to releases that are coming "soon".
What should Google do? Follow the Apply model? Announce it 4 months ago, which is what Apple did, then wait until you release a new phone (which actually have hard dates) to launch the new OS... so if Google did this, we would be waiting until the Nexus2 to get FroYo. Sounds great guys! Not...
Take a nap or something.
pjcforpres said:
What should Google do? Follow the Apply model? Announce it 4 months ago, which is what Apple did, then wait until you release a new phone (which actually have hard dates) to launch the new OS... so if Google did this, we would be waiting until the Nexus2 to get FroYo. Sounds great guys! Not...
Take a nap or something.
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They should have STFU until they had a hard release date.
Period.
And they sure as hell shouldn't have released it to the freaking press who didn't pay a dime for their Nexus.
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They should have STFU until they had a hard release date.
Period.
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Stop whining please.
It makes the rest of us Nexus One owners look bad.
Talderon said:
No, not complaining, stating some facts.
Apple = Solid release dates announced
Google = Vague mentions to releases that are coming "soon".
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Simple facts...
Apple= Announcing new phone!
Google= Software update
Two different things. Google gave a firm date for the Nexus One.
And when has Apple ever given a firm date for a software update/bug fix? Oh, wait, they haven't... they have only ever given firm dates for new phone releases, and then said the exact same stuff Google has, that the new OS will be available shortly for other models.
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Stop whining please.
It makes the rest of us Nexus One owners look bad.
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Dude you're responsible for yourself. I'm not going to shut up because you are insecure.
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Well sure we don't have a solid release date yet... but we also get more updates then 1 per year. Think on the bright side. At least Froyo 2.2 is already out, if not officially. I don't understand your complaining. Android can already do what the iPhone is just not catching up to.
If our Androids ran on Apple time... we wouldn't see 2.2 until next January. Again, be happy you don't have to wait that long. Be lucky we get what we get. Plus 2.1 runs great anyway.
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I am just saying that Apple has their act together when it comes to product launches. Google does not. People had a much better understanding of what's coming and when with Apple's Keynote than they did at Google's. It left a lot less speculation and release anxiousness on the table. That makes for happier customers.
No doubt I'd rather be using the version of FroYo we are already looking at than iOS4. That wasn't my point.
Since Apple is now in the ad business (some vague 60% number thrown out there), why not get into the hardware business google?
HTC is a good manufacturer but lacks the innovation needed. Sony designs well but moves at a snails pace and makes horrible decisions.
....10char
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Very true. And on the flip side of that - Your responsible for yourself as well. So act like an adult instead of getting everyone tense on the forum with childish behavior.
I wouldn't be upset really. Tom Petty did say it best when he said "waiting is the hardest part". However if Froyo isn't finished, then we need to sit back and chill for a little while longer. I would be really mad if we get it (example) July 4th weekend and absolutely nothing has been added or changed.
Looks like we are all in wait and see mode..
Google needs to get it's act together on android. Microsoft is going to come after them, not apple not RIM. Microsoft and Google are aiming for OEMs and OEMs have already complained about google's way of releasing android updates.
I was shocked when Andy Rubin said that they don't have road-maps for version release. Google needs to look at Mozilla for their planning.
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Very true. And on the flip side of that - Your responsible for yourself as well. So act like an adult instead of getting everyone tense on the forum with childish behavior.
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Rather than try and start a flame war, just post your opinion like I did and move one. If you cannot handle an opposing opinion, the internet may not be for you. If you're getting tense reading my posts, take a valium, but I will post any way I want(within forum rules of course).
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piss off, pantload.
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It's ok attn1... I know if I was always screaming "the sky is falling the sky is falling" about the release of Froyo I'd be a little tense too
Bashing the Moto X's "dated, me-too" Design and second rate in-hand feel... compared to the iPhone 5s
LOL
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-littman/no-more-motogoogles-not-s_b_4293432.html
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Bashing the Moto X's "dated, me-too" Design and second rate in-hand feel... compared to the iPhone 5s
LOL
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-littman/no-more-motogoogles-not-s_b_4293432.html
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why are you surprised, the auther owns stock in Apple, was the first editor of Mac Week, and is routinely invited to speak at apple related events. So don't let a fanboi's article get you upset.
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why are you surprised, the auther owns stock in Apple, was the first editor of Mac Week, and is routinely invited to speak at apple related events. So don't let a fanboi's article get you upset.
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I'm surprised because he singled out a phone that is widely praised for it's design... one that actually has better ergonomics and feels better in hand than not only the iPhone he praises... but any other phone currently available.
Here's the comment I posted over there(that will likely never get approved):
This article is hilariously off-base from every other article being written lately about the MotoX... It is THE Android phone right now... Besting the HTC One, Galaxy S 4 and Nexus 5 in real world usage....
It is also widely praised for it's design and ergonomics... you know... exactly what the blocky, sharp-edged, iPhone lacks.
http://www.zdnet.com/attention-to-d...d-the-moto-x-a-place-in-my-pocket-7000023426/
http://blog.laptopmag.com/motorola-game-changer-2013
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I'm surprised because he singled out a phone that is widely praised for it's design... one that is actually has better ergonomics and feels better in hand than not only the iPhone he praises... but any other phone currently available.
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Ok, so you are surprised that an unabashed apple fanboi has negative things to say about an Android device.
This is the line that got me:
The Moto X flunked, flopped and tanked, and has already been dubbed the most disappointing smart phone of the year.
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By who? Most of the reviews I've seen have been positive. If anything about the Moto X has been a failure, it was how the launch was handled. Fumbling with Moto maker was their biggest mistake. This is because of its AT&T exclusivity. Prospective buyers would pass on the phone for other carriers because it appeared inferior. But bad sales figures does not a bad device make.
Design with a capital D is what is winning over Apple cohorts --that subtle combination of materials, weight, lines, and how it feels in your hand.
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This is an interesting thing to say, since the design of the 5S is almost completely unchanged from the 5. One could argue the "if it ain't broke" angle, but evolution is not revolution. Apple did not reinvent, it maintained.
In addition, "winning over Apple cohorts" goes against the earlier derision of "obedient bloggers." Are "Apple cohorts" not also in a camp of followers?
So yeah, Apple-happy post by Apple-happy person. Nothing to see here.
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Ok, so you are surprised that an unabashed apple fanboi has negative things to say about an Android device.
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no, I'm surprised by the arguments he chose to base his derision on... I mean, he specifically chose to argue fallacies.
It would be like me arguing that:
Android devices are over-piced, the iPhone and, in fact, all apple products are far less expensive that their non-apple competition.
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In addition, the lack of popularity of Apple products gives the user status as a trend setter. In fact, if you own one, you may very likely be the only person you know who owns one and may never see another iPhone.
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Also, the small screens available on android phones can't compare to the gigantic movie theater like display of the iPhone.
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And the sky is plaid.
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There ARE things you can pick on about the Moto X... and android in general... specifically in comparison to the iPhone... but the Moto X's design, ergonomics and in-hand feel... are not among them.
"Jonathan Littman was the first news editor of Mac Week magazine. He owns Apple stock and is the co-author of the Art of Innovation and Ten Faces of Innovation and founder of Snowball Narrative."
Apple fanboy
What a pathetic article. What really amazes me is why people bother to even read tech news on huffington post. Why?
aooga said:
What a pathetic article. What really amazes me is why people bother to even read tech news on huffington post. Why?
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Whats Huffington post? :silly:
But seriously think I read one article by them and was like... yea waste of time, lack of research, writting skills etc etc
Just another sheep lost in its own herd. Quite sad honestly lol
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Just another sheep lost in its own herd. Quite sad honestly lol
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I don't generally like to throw the 'fanboi' ball around so I won't.
No matter what you think of huffington post there's one thing they are really good at. Writing articles (and especially headlining them) for SEO and maximum traffic.
He has an opinion. HP gave it a great SEO headline. "digital divide"? really? Usually that means something else, but that doesn't matter if the hits keep coming in. Still it's just on person's opinion.
While I disagree with his opinion and love the design, feel and just about everything about my moto X there's one thing he's right about. This phone has not sold well. Certainly the roll out had an effect. Google saying it would be cheaper or there's a cheaper version coming didn't help. There were lots of reasons to hesitate... BUT I am not sure google/moto built this phone to be a hit. This phone is about the future of google, android and moto, and moto's reputation. Sometimes it takes a product cycle or two. Did anyone think Samsung would take over the world when the galaxy S was new? Hell I think for most of them the GPS didn't work.
When I bought my X it was between moto and apple. I can't say the design of either is bad. Apple is really good at design. They are also good at getting the most out of hardware. A lot of companies follow their lead. The moto x was the only phone out there trying to do something different and (IMO) doing it well.
Its just click bait and the 1/2 mil sold was only for the 3rd quarter
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Its just click bait and the 1/2 mil sold was only for the 3rd quarter
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Yes, but most phones do their best at the beginning of the product cycle. Prior to the release the buzz was that moto was going to release some crazy game changer that would fly off shelves and give samsung a run for their money. That's not this device. I think the X will be one of those phones five years from now that people will look back at and remember as the start of something.
True but then again all the pre-release everyone thought it was going to be a mid-tier phone and to just wait for the N5. The ATT exclusive didn't help either but I have to agree with you about the start of something
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Just another sheep lost in its own herd. Quite sad honestly lol
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Not sad at all! Quite funny actually. Such write ups make my day. I dont want him to state facts. I know that the Moto X kicks ass, I dont need some guy who doesnt have a clue to confirm it.
Now, if someone would be kind enough to point me to the youtube channel where some kid keeps spewing **** like his mother bought him an imac that has a touchscreen etc. Came across it a few years ago, but was foolish not to subscribe. Some said he was stupid while some thought he did it on purpose.
Yeah, I tweeted back to the guy that he didn't know what he was talking about. I just hate that articles like this one could hurt the Moto X sales and make Google/Motorola go another direction. Other articles also making a big deal about 500,000 sales in 3rd quarter being bad. Well - the phone was only out for 5 weeks or the 3rd quarter and was only on AT&T at the time. So you cannot compare that to worldwide sales of Apple and Samsung devices. What an idiot.
brian Marshall said:
While I disagree with his opinion and love the design, feel and just about everything about my moto X there's one thing he's right about. This phone has not sold well.
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Its just click bait and the 1/2 mil sold was only for the 3rd quarter
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Yeah, I tweeted back to the guy that he didn't know what he was talking about. I just hate that articles like this one could hurt the Moto X sales and make Google/Motorola go another direction. Other articles also making a big deal about 500,000 sales in 3rd quarter being bad. Well - the phone was only out for 5 weeks or the 3rd quarter and was only on AT&T at the time. So you cannot compare that to worldwide sales of Apple and Samsung devices. What an idiot.
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http://www.unwiredview.com/2013/11/...o-x-is-a-big-success-for-google-and-motorola/
It DID sell well.
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It DID sell well.
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Yeah, but nearly every news outlet is saying it did poorly. Oh, the guy in the article also gave them crap for making a low cost (Moto G) phone - "racing to the bottom". What a sensationalist jerk.
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Yeah, but nearly every news outlet is saying it did poorly. Oh, the guy in the article also gave them crap for making a low cost (Moto G) phone - "racing to the bottom". What a sensationalist jerk.
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The news outlets dont realize they are comparing the global sales of other flagships to US only moto X sales
and yea jerks be jerks :|
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I don't generally like to throw the 'fanboi' ball around so I won't.
No matter what you think of huffington post there's one thing they are really good at. Writing articles (and especially headlining them) for SEO and maximum traffic.
He has an opinion. HP gave it a great SEO headline. "digital divide"? really? Usually that means something else, but that doesn't matter if the hits keep coming in.
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Precisely. This is a site that advocates against vaccination, so I find it hard to take anything they write seriously.
As for the sales, be careful with the 500,000 "shipped" number - that doesn't necessarily mean 500,000 "sold" - i.e. we don't know how many are sitting in storage.
Damn. Andy Rubin announced that the company is for sale and design for PH2 Will be terminated.
Very sad. I really love this device.
And all the sheeple line up to pay double for their Scamsungs and Crapples.
He should've made at least three attempts, goddamnit. I guess I'll try one plus maybe
I was disappointed when I learned the news. We have a really great phone. I wouldn't have paid $500+ for it though. I the high end phone market must be a tough market to crack into...
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I was disappointed when I learned the news. We have a really great phone. I wouldn't have paid $500+ for it though. I the high end phone market must be a tough market to crack into...
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Think how we early adopters feel for paying full price and then got a measly coupon for which many of us never even used it ourselves. I still love the phone though, just hope the custom rom community will continue to support if they ever stop.
I'm disappointed with this.
I wish I had seen another attempt....I think it was a beautiful phone.
Definitely feels like a let down but the initial reports are they are just stopping development. Maybe they will honor the 3 year patch and 2 year OS upgrade promise. I love this phone, flaws and all. If the company sells and the patent portfolio goes, I have zero confidence in any new accessories for this phone. Great idea, poor execution.
While Rubin says Essential will still be around in some form or another, it makes me wonder how much longer they will offer OS/security updates for the phone?
Que triste
chiadrum said:
Damn. Andy Rubin announced that the company is for sale and design for PH2 Will be terminated.
Very sad. I really love this device.
And all the sheeple line up to pay double for their Scamsungs and Crapples.
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Rumors.
From Andy:
"We always have multiple products in development at the same time and we embrace canceling some in favor of the ones we think will be bigger hits. We are putting all of our efforts towards our future, game-changing products, which include mobile and home products."
Where does that say the company is closing or that PH-2 is dead?
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Rumors.
From Andy:
"We always have multiple products in development at the same time and we embrace canceling some in favor of the ones we think will be bigger hits. We are putting all of our efforts towards our future, game-changing products, which include mobile and home products."
Where does that say the company is closing or that PH-2 is dead?
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It's all over the news. Sad news indeed...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...hone-maker-essential-is-said-to-consider-sale
https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/24/a...nd-has-cancelled-work-on-its-next-smartphone/
https://www.slashgear.com/andy-rubin-essential-phone-2-cancellation-smart-home-comment-25531970/
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It's all over the news. Sad news indeed...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...hone-maker-essential-is-said-to-consider-sale
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From Bloomberg " according to people familiar with the matter."
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This article refers to the Bloomberg article. --- See above
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"Smartphone maker Essential, Andy Rubin’s project to reinvent the Android phone, has axed development of its second device and is considering selling itself off, according to a new report. "
See the first URL.
One story, unconfirmed, and people have lost their minds.
I'll wait for an official source.
Bloomberg ---> " according to people familiar with the matter."
Means rumors and FUD.
i stopped reading at Bloomberg.
JD
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i stopped reading at Bloomberg.
JD
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Exactly.
https://wccftech.com/andy-rubin-email-essential-not-shutting-down/
Hope lives!
Google seems to be forgetting that they have their own Pixel line up and these days we hear other phones getting severity updates before us and now this. What is the point of paying so much for a Google phone??
Much hyperbole here.
Last month, Google if I recall correctly went off script and released the factory images and OTA updates for the Pixel devices on the first of the month, rather than the first Tuesday of the month. So no, Google hasn't forgotten the Pixels and just looking at the factory image or OTA pages would reveal this. Now, what is the point of paying so much for a Google device? There isn't much point to it since Google routinely discounts their devices, beginning about a month after launch. After all it's just a smartphone. However, the people who tend to purchase Pixels are early adopters or people wanting Android as Google intended it, unaltered by a device manufacturer or carrier. I fall into the second category, as I waited six months before buying mine.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Much hyperbole here.
Last month, Google if I recall correctly went off script and released the factory images and OTA updates for the Pixel devices on the first of the month, rather than the first Tuesday of the month. So no, Google hasn't forgotten the Pixels and just looking at the factory image or OTA pages would reveal this. Now, what is the point of paying so much for a Google device? There isn't much point to it since Google routinely discounts their devices, beginning about a month after launch. After all it's just a smartphone. However, the people who tend to purchase Pixels are early adopters or people wanting Android as Google intended it, unaltered by a device manufacturer or carrier. I fall into the second category, as I waited six months before buying mine.
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No sir not really. I'm talking about features as well as updates. One plus got it before pixels last month if I'm not wrong.
I think people buy Pixel because of the get the updates first, new features by Google first, has an amazing camera, stock Android and many more reasons. The reason is not just limited to stock Android. Also every manufacturer discounts their phones over the time. Google is no different and of course pixels don't have the success Google hoped. There are so many reasons for that. Anyway that's a topic for another day
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No sir not really. I'm talking about features as well as updates. One plus got it before pixels last month if I'm not wrong.
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You're wrong. Your post is hyperbole because of it.
100rabh7791 said:
I think people buy Pixel because of the get the updates first, new features by Google first, has an amazing camera, stock Android and many more reasons. The reason is not just limited to stock Android. Also every manufacturer discounts their phones over the time. Google is no different and of course pixels don't have the success Google hoped. There are so many reasons for that. Anyway that's a topic for another day
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Your opinion is noted. Having owned Google devices for four years now the updates are a big part of it, but the other part of it is having Android as Google intended it. Note, I do NOT say "stock" because Pixel devices are skinned and have their own UI not found in AOSP.
Which feature are you talking about?
blacklisted.rock said:
Which feature are you talking about?
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It's in the title of the thread.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You're wrong. Your post is hyperbole because of it.
Your opinion is noted. Having owned Google devices for four years now the updates are a big part of it, but the other part of it is having Android as Google intended it. Note, I do NOT say "stock" because Pixel devices are skinned and have their own UI not found in AOSP.
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Okay agreed lol to some extent. I might be over reacting probably because i liked the ambient mode so much.
Yeah true not stock but Google version of Android. But will have to wait for this feature to come to Pixel devices now as Google said somewhere in future they will provide it. Doesn't make any sense to me though
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Which feature are you talking about?
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Check this out
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...on-more-phones-brings-smart-display-features/
Would like to know your thoughts about it as well.
100rabh7791 said:
Check this out
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...on-more-phones-brings-smart-display-features/
Would like to know your thoughts about it as well.
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Pixel 4 = NEW PHONE, latest security updates and features before other new phones
Pixel 2 = 2 YEAR OLD PHONE, latest security updates and features before other 2 year old phones
So they haven't forgot us.
lywyn said:
Pixel 4 = NEW PHONE, latest security updates and features before other new phones
Pixel 2 = 2 YEAR OLD PHONE, latest security updates and features before other 2 year old phones
So they haven't forgot us.
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Isn't that obvious that Pixel is suppose to get all these updates first but things are changing and i was talking about this ambient feature.
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Isn't that obvious that Pixel is suppose to get all these updates first but things are changing and i was talking about this ambient feature.
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Your Pixel is 2 years old, I think the Pixel 3 owners should be first in line to moan they are not getting things new phones get
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Your Pixel is 2 years old, I think the Pixel 3 owners should be first in line to moan they are not getting things new phones get
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So what ?? I mean if it was some other OEM i wouldn't really be bothered, Google competes with ios. So the standards should be same.
Lets moan together lol but i heard 3xl got the Live caption as well, which is really good. I wish 2xl gets it maybe sometimes in the future.