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according to this blog post by Sony: http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
We will make Android 7.0, Nougat available for: Xperia Z3+, Xperia Z4 Tablet, Xperia Z5, Xperia Z5 Compact, Xperia Z5 Premium, Xperia X, Xperia XA, Xperia XA Ultra and Xperia X Performance
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najodleglejszy said:
according to this blog post by Sony: http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
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If that’s true, unless an Xperia play 2 comes out, I won’t buy a Sony phone again.
z3 will get Nougat,since even Z got it's Lollipop 5.1 updates
Bye sony hello new nexus...
YongJeah said:
z3 will get Nougat,since even Z got it's Lollipop 5.1 updates
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it won't, sorry for that. Announced by Sony developers
Sebasmt said:
Bye sony hello new nexus...
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Same here
Wtf the Z3 gets dev preview but doesn't get official update,that is the bigger bulls*it ever
Hold your [email protected], people...
I think it's not a final word from them... remember that original Xperia Z received the updates being 2 years old. Just relax and wait, maybe they'll change their mind.
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I don't see it having developer builds and not the final one
What option do we have for longtime support for Z3 Compact? There is no official Cyanogen mod support either?
This sucks. Just bought another z3 because I smashed the screen on my last one. Still my all time fave Android phone.
i used sonymobile 3 product
play no upgrade to 4
SP no upgrade to 4.4
and last z3c no upgrade to 7 due to use cpu 32 bit
i think next mobile is Nexus Sailfish
but i waiting see xperia XR if it has speed shutter
may be buy sony again hahahaha
This is from concept google+ community:
Regarding Nougat Android 7.0 update
We know that you all hoped for a N release and we really wanted to give you one but instead we have to tell you that we won't be able to.
The reasons are both technical and legal. If you followed the N Developer Preview program you know that we didn't release the final DP5. That program ran into some unforeseen limitations (1) that could not be resolved.
This is the reason that both concept and official won't be upgraded to Android N (2).
(1) https://developer.sony.com/2016/07/...ed-for-xperia-z3/comment-page-2/#comment-1025
(2) http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
pekingG said:
This is from concept google+ community:
Regarding Nougat Android 7.0 update
We know that you all hoped for a N release and we really wanted to give you one but instead we have to tell you that we won't be able to.
The reasons are both technical and legal. If you followed the N Developer Preview program you know that we didn't release the final DP5. That program ran into some unforeseen limitations (1) that could not be resolved.
This is the reason that both concept and official won't be upgraded to Android N (2).
(1) https://developer.sony.com/2016/07/...ed-for-xperia-z3/comment-page-2/#comment-1025
(2) http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
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must sux for the sony devs. looks like they tried to pull it off but execs came and said no.
Please read again the link, it says and i quote,
"We’ve been working hard to bring this major update to as many of our devices as possible, as quickly as we can. We’re really excited about the new Sony features & functionality and the improvements we’ve made to the user experience – and we’ll be sharing more soon… so stay tuned to the blog and @SonyMobileNews for all the latest news on timings and features."
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/...id-7-0-nougat/
Seems that Google removed the support for Snapdragon 800/801 from the Kernel, that's what they call unforeseen limitations (the Nexus 5, Snapdragon 800 don't get the update either).
Such an unpopular decision for a very popular device, like z3(c).
difto said:
Seems that Google removed the support for Snapdragon 800/801 from the Kernel, that's what they call unforeseen limitations (the Nexus 5, Snapdragon 800 don't get the update either).
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pekingG said:
This is from concept google+ community:
Regarding Nougat Android 7.0 update
We know that you all hoped for a N release and we really wanted to give you one but instead we have to tell you that we won't be able to.
The reasons are both technical and legal. If you followed the N Developer Preview program you know that we didn't release the final DP5. That program ran into some unforeseen limitations (1) that could not be resolved.
This is the reason that both concept and official won't be upgraded to Android N (2).
(1) https://developer.sony.com/2016/07/...ed-for-xperia-z3/comment-page-2/#comment-1025
(2) http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
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Can someone please pin these in the main post?
Maybe its because of chipset is X86
Yasin.Dogan said:
Maybe its because of chipset is X86
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Well.... Z3 and Z3 Compact doesn't use any X86 chipset, it uses a arm-based chipset (Snapdragon 801 namely), and the reason Sony can't bring the upgrade to the Z3 and Z3 Compact is becuase Google removed support for the Snapdragon 801.
Ya a bad notice on the new Nougat update... check reddit for more info, i can't post links :crying:
What the hell. The Nexus 6p with the exact same chipset has Vulkan
Yes, alas. I don't believe it'd be better anyway if we had it, meaning the bugs we'd face with the drivers otherwise.
Still, +shame on Google+ proudly announcing their nougat = vulkan support -- not having discussed the matter with at least most prominent market players in advance. As to the QC, they never promised anything I gather.
Never again htc
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Never again htc
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Do buy Samsung then, there's full vulkan support for Nougat, s7 & edge.
Check out S.Team M9 rom thread. The dev announced a new HTC 10 Nougat rom port with vulkan support ?
Sooo, Snapdragon 801 devices "couldn't" receive official nougat because the SoC can't support Vulkan and it's required to pass CTS, and then wild M9 appears and receives official Nougat without Vulkan support and nothing happens. Yeah...
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i saw at the beta android O got cool improvement
if not 8 i hope will get at least lastest version 7.1.2
No, I don't think so..
I am absolutely sure we will get android o.
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I don't think so either
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Absolutely not. The best you could hope for is 7.1.1 or 7.1.2.
no. probably android 7.1 android 8
never
No, sony is just retarded.
the best news will be Z5 WONT get Android 8.
Z5 with 3gb ram, the best build so far has been Android 6 - 32.2.A.5.11 , it was the last build on Android 6.
ever since on android 7, the device overheats and battery life is a bit shorter and ram usage is high.
YES i agree sony has ditched Z5 poorly after announcing that Z project has been discontinued and z5 was never properly distributed or marketed (atleast not in my country)
the same goes for the upcoming builds where they are focusing more on X series and when in Jan2017 X got android 7, z5 also prompted for an update to 7.
I will be downgrading my z5 to 32.2.A.5.11 and will keep it there for good!
It would be nice, let see what demands will it have
I too tried nougat, no go without xposed, sticking with rock solid marshmallow
Yes - there's a very active development community - OP never stated from $ony
Z2,Z3--> 6.0.1
Z3+,Z5-->7.1.1/7.1.2
Sony makes devices as pair...
You guys know that nougat was planned for z3, and it even had developer preview build, but google or qualcomm messed up with some drivers or requirements, so all snapdragon 801 devices didnt get nougat update.
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Official Android O? Sony tried to update the Z3 to Nougat (it would have gone 4.4 -> 7.0) and were only stopped by Qualcomm/Google/driver issues. No reason for the Z5 to not get 8.0
may be 8.0 requires Vulcan which z5 lacks ??????????????????
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may be 8.0 requires Vulcan which z5 lacks ??????????????????
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*Vulkan
I think we won't get O as our update support ends soon, the 2 years of update support is soon on EOL and I'm sure Sony is waiting for that so they don't have to update anymore.
Well I have an Z5 Premium but the whole kitakami series (Z3+ to Z5) gets nearly same updates.
I would be happy if Sony wouldn't mess up FWs like they did with Nougat but well I'm sure they did that because This series should die to replace it with the messy X series.
So don't expect too much guys. You also don't need to expect so much that we get 7.1.2
When XZ1 and so on are released we also can say goodbye to our devices finally because Sony will dead patch them like they did with Z3 (look battery life between 5.1.1 and 6.0.1)
So my hope goes to OnePlus 5 for now
Your PDesire
I just bought this device a week ago. I'm not worried about not getting Android O. But rather worried about not getting a stable version of Nougat.
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zer0se7en said:
I just bought this device a week ago. I'm not worried about not getting Android O. But rather worried about not getting a stable version of Nougat.
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Don't worry, latest Nougat (.33) is stable
nreuge said:
Don't worry, latest Nougat (.33) is stable
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I'm not sure.I think it's still not stable...
In case someone has missed it, the Z4 Tablet is not on Sonys list with devices that will get the update. Since it is Sonys last tablet and still one of the best Android tablet I think it would have made sense to keep it updated.
It runs okay with stock 7.1.1 but some of the Oreo updates would be nice to have, like improved multi window support and picture-in-picture.
I guess there will be some custom ROMs to try out, but in this case I actually like Sonys UI better, with the keyboard support (shortcuts and start menu etc.).
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In case someone has missed it, the Z4 Tablet is not on Sonys list with devices that will get the update. Since it is Sonys last tablet and still one of the best Android tablet I think it would have made sense to keep it updated.
It runs okay with stock 7.1.1 but some of the Oreo updates would be nice to have, like improved multi window support and picture-in-picture.
I guess there will be some custom ROMs to try out, but in this case I actually like Sonys UI better, with the keyboard support (shortcuts and start menu etc.).
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Source for the Z4 tablets not getting Oreo?
Aredubu said:
Source for the Z4 tablets not getting Oreo?
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https://blogs.sonymobile.com/2017/08/31/xperia-android-8-0-oreo/
Wow, that sucks.
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This is the latest tablet in Sony portfolio.
No Oreo = I will never again buy Sony device.
Howgh.
Without sources It's hard to make custom oreo rom. But it definately possible as it is with xiaomi redmi note 2, for example.
Since z5 itself it not getting oreo then it was obvious the tablet as well. If sony do as always then we will have AOSP release from them for this tablet and z5
Very disappointed ?
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From what I understand there will be no BSP for Oreo on the 810 processor based SOC. It's tough to blame Sony for this one, IMHO this lands on Qualcomm.
No. It's Sony responsibility to push Quallcomm.
Most sony devices use mediatek now so probably Qualcomm no longer is a good partner for Sony
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From what I understand there will be no BSP for Oreo on the 810 processor based SOC. It's tough to blame Sony for this one, IMHO this lands on Qualcomm.
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There are phones with 810 SOC that has gotten Oreo already so that is false.
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There are phones with 810 SOC that has gotten Oreo already so that is false.
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...such as?
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...such as?
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Nexus 6P and maybe others.
Any other examples?
I'm not sure which kernel is running on 6p on oreo, but on my nexus 5x (oreo 8.1) it's 3.10. This is a violation of google policy that for oreo kernel must be at least 4.4.
So i would suspect that 6p is an exception confirming the rule.
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Any other examples?
I'm not sure which kernel is running on 6p on oreo, but on my nexus 5x (oreo 8.1) it's 3.10. This is a violation of google policy that for oreo kernel must be at least 4.4.
So i would suspect that 6p is an exception confirming the rule.
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That's not really correct, according to Google's kernel version requirements:
- All SoCs productized in 2017 must launch with kernel 4.4 or newer.
- All other SoCs launching new Android devices running Android 8.0 must use kernel 3.18 or newer.
- Regardless of launch date, all SoCs with device launches on Android 8.0 remain subject to kernel changes required to enable Treble.
-Older Android devices released prior to Android 8.0 but that will be upgraded to Android 8.0 can continue to use their original base kernel version if desired.
Source: https://source.android.com/devices/architecture/kernel/modular-kernels#core-kernel-requirements
I think even the Pixel / Pixel XL is running Oreo on 3.18 kernels.
Its like when the snap 801 devices didnt get nougat all over again. Google are good at killing worthy devices. All 801 devices were perfectly fine and capable of running nougat but it was never offically supported. Its also like the Sony SmartWatch 3 how they killed that with no AW 2.0 update. It has nfc which can be used for Android pay but is now useless without AW 2.0. Also the SmartWatch 3 has WiFi and alot of other things some android wear 2.0 devices dont have. Google just keep killing our devices with less updates to make us buy new ones.
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Its like when the snap 801 devices didnt get nougat all over again. Google are good at killing worthy devices. All 801 devices were perfectly fine and capable of running nougat but it was never offically supported. Its also like the Sony SmartWatch 3 how they killed that with no AW 2.0 update. It has nfc which can be used for Android pay but is now useless without AW 2.0. Also the SmartWatch 3 has WiFi and alot of other things some android wear 2.0 devices dont have. Google just keep killing our devices with less updates to make us buy new ones.
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Why do you keep blaming Google for this? Google did update their own devices with the same chipset as Sony Tablet Z4 (Nexus 6P) or lower spec (Nexus 5X) to Oreo.
The Nexus and even Pixels runs 3.x kernels too so Google is not stopping Sony from updating the Z3+/Z4/Z5-series to Oreo!
Regarding the SmartWatch 3, again why blame Google for this? It has the Snapdragon 400 chipset which is compatible with Wear 2.0 (LG updated their G-watches with SD400 to Wear 2.0).
Instead it was Sony that stated something like "SwartWatch 3 runs better with it's current version of Wear". The same BS excuse that Sony and other OEMs often use when they abandon fully capable products.
Google can't force OEMs to update their devices, the just give them the tools to do it. Which in these cases Sony don't want to use.
According to xperiablog, SONY just sold 18300 Z4 Tablets. I am pretty sure the customer wants to use a current OS with security patches.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2018/01/26/french-police-make-huge-order-for-sony-xperia-devices/
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According to xperiablog, SONY just sold 18300 Z4 Tablets. I am pretty sure the customer wants to use a current OS with security patches.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2018/01/26/french-police-make-huge-order-for-sony-xperia-devices/
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According to the article they will run a (modified) stock version of Android. The demo unit in the photo seems to be running Jelly Bean or KitKat!
Do you guys think that the xperia x compact will get the update to Android P?
No. Z5 compact didn't get oreo, so X compact will not get P. Maybe we will get 8.1.
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Do you guys think that the xperia x compact will get the update to Android P?
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Probaly yes. Sony’s official Android upgrade policy, it that premium devices are supported for two years after the device has launched. X compact will complete two years in the end of this year, so probaly yes!
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Probaly yes. Sony’s official Android upgrade policy, it that premium devices are supported for two years after the device has launched. X compact will complete two years in the end of this year, so probaly yes!
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And how can you explain that Z5C, released in late Sept. 2015, didn't get oreo, released in Aug. 2017? Support means security updates and not new Android versions.
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No. Z5 compact didn't get oreo, so X compact will not get P. Maybe we will get 8.1.
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Maybe germans will get x compact oreo update? Its a farce. I think P update only for XZ...
kullino said:
Maybe germans will get x compact oreo update? Its a farce. I think P update only for XZ...
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I don't understand. X compact already has oreo 8.0. Maybe it will get 8.1., but not P (9.x).
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And how can you explain that Z5C, released in late Sept. 2015, didn't get oreo, released in Aug. 2017? Support means security updates and not new Android versions.
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Well, first of all, Sony did not have a clear policy of commitment to update the software for a certain period, and decided to adopt two years, endorsing the line of updates made by Google.
In addition, Sandar Pichai, CEO's Google, during Pixel 2's presentation on October 4 last year, has ensured that it will take the necessary steps for manufacturers to make updates for the same period, encouraging frequent updates to the Android system, which is largely not the case yet.
About Z5 and the Z5 compact, I can not say specifically. For example, the Z3 compact did not receive the Android Nougat because of a technical issue related to some unforeseen limitations of the platform that did not allow updating. These include the need for updated devices to have graphics that support Vulkan and OpenGL ES 3.1. Thus, devices running Adreno 3XX graphics - present on Snapdragon 800 and Snapdragon 801 - can not be upgraded, since processors only support OpenGL ES 3.0. As I said earlier, Google has committed to ensure that these contingencies will be reduced within two years period. Thus, it is likely, however, not certain that Sony will be authorized to upgrade its devices to Android P, and following the internal policy of the company to carry out the updates.
So, let's hope
OK, you are obviously better informed than me. So let's see...
also it's worth mentioning that Sony was not very kind to z5 series in terms of upgrading and X series were much better, however let's not forget that X compact has the same processor as the X so it's either they update both these phones to P or they update neither of them because X was released 6 months before Xc (if Im not mistaken) so the support would be over soon if not already...
They did update the Xperia Z to lollipop 5.1, almost 2 and a half years after it was launched, so maybe the X will get Android P as well; then again, 5.1 wasn't a huge update from 5.0, so, the probability is quite low that either the X Compact or the X will get the update.
Let's hope there won't be a performance dip if we do get the update tho.
I don't think so.
I can't be sure, it's more a sensation.
Maybe we'll get 8.1.
Or worse, left to "patched" 8.0.