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Redmi 3S pro or 3 pro

I am looking to buy a new phone and right now I am split between the Redmi 3 pro and Redmi 3S pro. I love the way they look on paper. The battery, the lack of a 1080p screen is a pro (I find 1080p screens on <6" phones useless, 900p should be the norm here), the size, the price, the RAM.
The only difference I know is in the SoC. The one in 3S looks more future-proof (Adreno 505), but it's useless to be future proof if no one is taking advantage of that.
I know I should give it time, but the only people talking about the 3S are "thanks" commenters on the miui forums. Google searching that phones yields results for the Redmi 3. It has no global ROM. There are 3 threads about it on XDA, none having a reply.
Which one should I go for?

man what are you talking about.720p is more than enought for redmi 3.why do you want to waste battery and performance for just a 1080 p screen which is useless in real life.redmi 3 has very good screen.ya 3s is futureproof and redmi 3 does not has global rom bt i am happy with chinese stable cause its more stable than global rom + it gets update faster.and its not too hard to install plastore ya know.

Sorry, all that's mentioned there were pro's. I personally HATE that they need to put 1080p screens on everything, 440 dpi is overkill...
What about MIUI killing apps in the background? I read about that a lot.

miui killing background app? just lock that app in task manager then it will stay there till u kill the app urself

Anything you get will be great. All the phones you are considering are just as good. So if you can find one of the phones at a better price, get it. You won't be disappointed. However I find that development is lacking on the Redmi 3. While there are a lot of ROMs, they have their bugs. This is a pretty new phone so it will get updates on MIUI. As long as you like the skin, you will be good.
I personally can't stand MIUI so I'm glad I got the Mi4c. You should consider it too. It's got a 1080p display and a better processor (SD 808) but only 3000mah battery (which still gets me 6 hours SOT) and no SD card.

My vote would be for the 3S and hope it gets some dev support.

Just ordered a Redmi 3s

Mi4c was my first option before some local retailer advertised Redmi 3S and I found about them. Still, Redmi 3S it's like 70% of the price of the Mi4c here and that battery.... That battery. I dislike miui too, but global ROM is coming.

Snapdragon 430 supports quick charge 3.0 so I assume it is supported by the 3S model. This is a good reason for choosing 3S

7X Does Serious Damage To Xiaomi's New Redmi Note 5 Pro !

Ok... 1 Down.. 1 To Go...
Honor has now impressed me with this Honor 7X.
The 7X is already going Head to Head with the shiny new Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro.
And it's Kicking It's Ass.
ROUND 1: Memory Management ... Winner The Honor 7X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKDhb1CZ29M
ROUND 2: Camera Comparison... Winner The Honor 7X ( For Outside Shots.. IMO ) Inside? you may chose the N5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VULfz1LXFxY
Round 3: Screen: Winner Note 5 Pro * ( If you like saturation, there is a little more in the N5... you can see it in the screen icons in the Memory Management Vid )
Round 4: Style Points... Winner Honor 7X.. Bezels are clearly slimmer...
Winner 3 Rounds To 1... * The Honor 7X*.. :highfive:
Now..... Let's See What The Moto G6 Plus Will Bring To The Party.

I agree I've been a Xiaomi fan for a while but swapped to a 7x a month or so ago.
Glad I did, it's more stylish smaller slimmer and lighter than the 5 pro & I got a 64gb for the same price.
Sent from my Honor 7x using Tapatalk

That's Great..
nickzeptepi said:
I swapped to a 7x a month or so ago.
Glad I did, it's more stylish smaller slimmer and lighter than the 5 pro & I got a 64gb for the same price.
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Good Deal Sir...
You will not get the same Developer Support you had with the Xiaomi.. but I feel this is the 1st phone I've owned that does not required Root Access..
I personally don't see any apps that I would use that I'm not using right now without root.. Now A Days, with No Root Adaway, Themes with Customized Theme Managers, Extreme Battery Saving options, Screen Tempeture adjustments, DPI adjustments, Floating Docs etc.. nothing else is needed.
It's a new day.. times have changed.. Customization as well as Personalization can be had right out of the box.
Enjoy Your 7X Man... You scored a great deal.

I've rooted mine. But I agree I always had to put cyanogen or lineage to replace MIUI but with this EMUI its nice and with root it fills in a few gaps that a full Lineage would provide.
If OpenKirin team release AOSP or lineage I probably won't replace EMUI

Kool..
nickzeptepi said:
I've rooted mine. But I agree I always had to put cyanogen or lineage to replace MIUI but with this EMUI its nice and with root it fills in a few gaps that a full Lineage would provide.
If OpenKirin team release AOSP or lineage I probably won't replace EMUI
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Did They Ever Get That One Running At Full Capacity?
Since I 've chosen not to Root, I don't follow the thread.
I know they were having some Bluetooth & Camera issues...
I wish the team the best!
It's nice for you guys that have rooted to have something to play with.. enjoy.

my root a twrp runs fine. no issues.
rot for adaway titanium backup, even got Xposed running

RaiderWill said:
Ok... 1 Down.. 1 To Go...
Honor has now impressed me with this Honor 7X.
The 7X is already going Head to Head with the shiny new Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro.
And it's Kicking It's Ass.
ROUND 1: Memory Management ... Winner The Honor 7X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKDhb1CZ29M
ROUND 2: Camera Comparison... Winner The Honor 7X ( For Outside Shots.. IMO ) Inside? you may chose the N5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VULfz1LXFxY
Round 3: Screen: Winner Note 5 Pro * ( If you like saturation, there is a little more in the N5... you can see it in the screen icons in the Memory Management Vid )
Round 4: Style Points... Winner Honor 7X.. Bezels are clearly slimmer...
Winner 3 Rounds To 1... * The Honor 7X*.. :highfive:
Now..... Let's See What The Moto G6 Plus Will Bring To The Party.
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Can I know the name of the Theme of you are using ?
I can change the navigation bar , icons , settings style and locations but I'm unable to change the position of the status bar icons .
If it's a personalized theme can you upload the theme or atleast systemui file please :angel:

RaiderWill said:
Ok... 1 Down.. 1 To Go...
Honor has now impressed me with this Honor 7X.
The 7X is already going Head to Head with the shiny new Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro.
And it's Kicking It's Ass.
ROUND 1: Memory Management ... Winner The Honor 7X
ROUND 2: Camera Comparison... Winner The Honor 7X ( For Outside Shots.. IMO ) Inside? you may chose the N5
Round 3: Screen: Winner Note 5 Pro * ( If you like saturation, there is a little more in the N5... you can see it in the screen icons in the Memory Management Vid )
Round 4: Style Points... Winner Honor 7X.. Bezels are clearly slimmer...
Winner 3 Rounds To 1... * The Honor 7X*.. :highfive:
Now..... Let's See What The Moto G6 Plus Will Bring To The Party.
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But am shifting to note 5 pro because of the processor and HUGE DEVELOPER SUPPORT....i have been waiting for the support for this device and cant wait anymore...no oreo update still....even note 5 pro wont get oreo update any time soon but developers somehow work very hard for mi devices....i have seen huge support for note3,note4 and A1 devices. So BYE Honor forever

Can't Blame You..
kiran G. said:
But am shifting to note 5 pro because of the processor and HUGE DEVELOPER SUPPORT....i have been waiting for the support for this device and cant wait anymore...no oreo update still....even note 5 pro wont get oreo update any time soon but developers somehow work very hard for mi devices....i have seen huge support for note3,note4 and A1 devices. So BYE Honor forever
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Hey Kiran.. Hate To See You Go...
But.. I understand why you are making the switch to the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro.
YES.. in time..( you'll still need Kernel Source or a port of Project Treble ) Developer Support will outstrip the 7x 5 to 1...
There Really Is NO Guarantee The 7x Will Get Anymore Than Base Support.
It's funny how everyone just assumes...
People rooting their devices left and right... throwig their warranty out the window and don't even have a stock image to flash should they need it.. or like you are ready to move on from it.. and need to return it to stock.
At first, I thought root and rom for the 7x was still the way to go..
But this is 2018.. And if a person does their research, they'll see there is NOTHING one can't now do / have with the stock setup that a Custom ROM can do.. Especially when it comes to the 7x.. Outside of just being different to be different.. ( And YES That Is What XDA Is All About )
I wish you all the best with the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro.. That Snapdragon 636 is GUARANTEED to get LOTS of attention.
For Me *100% Stability & Functionality* are the PARAMOUNT requirment at this stage of the game.
I did not pay hard earned dollars to see Exclamation Screens & "Android has stopped unexpectedly" Screens along with hearing there's a fix coming for this and a fix coming for that...
No Thanks.
Only stock ROM's (even debloated.. don't really care for Deodexed.. slows things down just a wee bit..) are the way to go for the forseeable future IMO..
Again especially with the 7x.. it's just feature rich right out of the box..along with so many mods now that don't even require root.
It's been weeks now since the 1st B192 (Face Unlock / AR) update was released.. and only 20% of the planet has gotten it.. at this pace.. full rollout of B192 and EMUI / OREO 8.0 won't be completed until Mid / Late Summer.
Anywho..
Goodbye & Goodluck with your Xiaomi Mr. K !

One Final Question..
kiran G. said:
shifting to note 5 pro because of the processor and HUGE DEVELOPER SUPPORT....i have been waiting for the support for this device and cant wait anymore... BYE Honor forever
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Hey Kiran.. 1 Question Sir,
Did you root? if so, are you going to sell it as a "Rooted Device" ?
And... If you did root.. don't you have to go through some proceedure with Honor to get a code to unlock the bootloader? so now there is no warranty.. and it's been Permenantly registered with Honor as a unsecured device?
Just wondered if facing these possible conditions, will it cause you to lower your selling price if selling publicly.
Thanks if don't mind sharing.. Feel Free To P. M. Me If you Like...

Mi Max 3 is out. Will you upgrade?

Specs here
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-max-3-specifications-pricing-availability/

battery is great. sd625 works good enough for me. may be mi max 4. for now I'll stick with max 2.

word, same here plus, we have custom roms, something the MM3 will have to wait for for at least half a year.
himanshu_atrix2 said:
battery is great. sd625 works good enough for me. may be mi max 4. for now I'll stick with max 2.
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jbmc83 said:
word, same here plus, we habe custom roms, something the MM3 will have to wait for for at least half a year.
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Maybe it will not take so long for custom roms.
The Mi Max 3 specs state it will come with Android 8.1.
If this is true it will be factory "treble-enabled" and custom roms will show up a lot faster.

this is china model, right? any issue using it oustide china (apart from frequencies).
i mean google play will be available just fine, correct?

erwinsie said:
this is china model, right? any issue using it oustide china (apart from frequencies).
i mean google play will be available just fine, correct?
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Wait for the global model. Will be available most likely with in 2 weeks of release of this one

ayush4261 said:
Wait for the global model. Will be available most likely with in 2 weeks of release of this one
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ok. thanks will wait.
this would be my first xiaomi. cant use < 6" phone anymore, they are tiny!

in theory, yes. as long as the devs are willing to haul ass and use treble for custom roms
svbarbosa said:
Maybe it will not take so long for custom roms.
The Mi Max 3 specs state it will come with Android 8.1.
If this is true it will be factory "treble-enabled" and custom roms will show up a lot faster.
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not buy anymore. big screen but little update.

tom.android said:
not buy anymore. big screen but little update.
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me also slow very update. i have also redmi note 5 and like it more because every week or next always update

Mi Max 2 is still new. It's specs are still wonderful.
MM2 custom ROM scene has just matured.
I see no reason to upgrade just yet.
Never understood the urge to upgrade as soon as something new is released, especially when the current one working well.

I have had a mi max 1 and a mi max 2. Just ordered a mi 8, want to try a high spec phone for a change

No need to upgrade now even if max 3 is better than max 2 in many ways
1) 5g enabled chipsets will be available next year, around mid 2019 so it will be a waste to buy a phone now that will become old in just 6-10 months
2)its a personal preference but i hate the new aspect ratio designs the old 16:9 is the best as content available now is mostly by default in this ratio
3) Snapdragon 625 is more than adequate for any task / 636 is a very good upgrade but i want more power efficiency than performance. ie i want it to give more battery life than get performance
4) would love if the max series drops the LCD screen and opt for an AMOLED, more battery man?
5) as we are talking about replacing the display also remove the abomination called hybrid sim tray **** hybrid i want 2 sim and a card like the good old days of cell phones not this *****y pile of ****

kaku1992 said:
No need to upgrade now even if max 3 is better than max 2 in many ways
1) 5g enabled chipsets will be available next year, around mid 2019 so it will be a waste to buy a phone now that will become old in just 6-10 months
2)its a personal preference but i hate the new aspect ratio designs the old 16:9 is the best as content available now is mostly by default in this ratio
3) Snapdragon 625 is more than adequate for any task / 636 is a very good upgrade but i want more power efficiency than performance. ie i want it to give more battery life than get performance
4) would love if the max series drops the LCD screen and opt for an AMOLED, more battery man[emoji6]
5) as we are talking about replacing the display also remove the abomination called hybrid sim tray **** hybrid i want 2 sim and a card like the good old days of cell phones not this *****y pile of ****
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agree with all of the above haha although i doubt that 5g networks will be operational anytime soon, especially not in a manner that has sufficient coverage (i.e. outside of capital / major cities).
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk

No. No sense xD

Thanks to Mi Max 3, I just bought a Max 2 as my secondary device, my main one is HTC U11. Amazing battery life !!

amgreenhawk said:
Mi Max 2 is still new. It's specs are still wonderful.
MM2 custom ROM scene has just matured.
I see no reason to upgrade just yet.
Never understood the urge to upgrade as soon as something new is released, especially when the current one working well.
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Agreed, given that:
1/ Xiaomi has promised to deliver MIUI 10 for total 28 devices (some released back in 2015)
2/ Mi max equipped with Snapdragon 625, which also built in a plentiful of Xiaomi devices in 2017 and also 2018 (Redmi note 4, mi max 2, Redmi note 4X, Redmi 5 plus, Redmi 6 pro (Mi A2 lite), Mi5X (Mi A1), Redmi Y2, redmi 4 prime etc..)
I'm strongly believe that Xiaomi has a very good way of optimizing the Snapdragon 625 and the Max 2 will have the support for years to come.

For the new Mi Max 3, Xiaomi screwed up with the anti-rollback issue and disabling the flashing of Global rom on a Chinese rom phone and vice versa. It can brick if someone does it. There is a workaround posted in the guide section of Max 3 by omer919, but you can't use normal OTA updates anymore. Not sure how long this method will be supported, since it's not a custom-ROM based solution.
Global market (Mi Max 3) phones do NOT come with 6GB/128GB configuration. (At least so far that I know of.)
Big screen, very generous battery and infra-red are the only reason I like the Mi Max series, but the latest Xiaomi policy to prevent using exchanged ROM in the Max 3 puts me off.
So, after all these, are people STILL interested in getting the Max 3?

amgreenhawk said:
For the new Mi Max 3, Xiaomi screwed up with the anti-rollback issue and disabling the flashing of Global rom on a Chinese rom phone and vice versa. It can brick if someone does it. There is a workaround posted in the guide section of Max 3 by omer919, but you can't use normal OTA updates anymore. Not sure how long this method will be supported, since it's not a custom-ROM based solution.
Global market (Mi Max 3) phones do NOT come with 6GB/128GB configuration. (At least so far that I know of.)
Big screen, very generous battery and infra-red are the only reason I like the Mi Max series, but the latest Xiaomi policy to prevent using exchanged ROM in the Max 3 puts me off.
So, after all these, are people STILL interested in getting the Max 3?
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well this sux big time. did some research into this and its understandable why xiaomi is doing it, but also veeery annoying for enthusiast users... one more reason to love the hardware but refrain from flashing MIUI. just update the firmware and run custom AOSP based ROMs aside from that the MM3 is basically the only phone id consider buying, aside maybe from the poco f1...
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greetings
just received my new mi max 3 (64/4 GB chinese version with latest china developer rom) and im thinking of keeping my lovely max 2 guys
build quality is a step back in many way:
feels noticeably heavier and thicker in hand than max 2
power and volume buttons are a little hard to press
screen is bright more than u need+washed out colors = max 2 screen quality is way better for me
its notification LED is a joke! so smaller and poor light and still white color only!not visible and usable at all in days
full screen gestures always has annoying stutter even with more powerful chipset
battery life is a bit shorter than max 2 (overall one hour less SOT for my daily use)
no scratch resistent screen = scratched mine in just one day!
the only thing is about cameras and new chipset .really a huge upgrade in picture quality+video recording with EIS + selfie camera with LED light

Redmi Note 7 or Mi A2 : Which one to buy?

So I am willing to buy a new phone and the Mi A2 (4gb/64gb) and Redmi note 7(3gb/32gb - the one with SD 660 and 48mp camera, a.k.a. Redmi note 7s in India) are almost identical in price in my region .They both fit perfectly into my budget and are great devices. So I am confused about which one to choose. Hence I request you guys to help me in deciding which one to buy.

note 7. bigger battery, bigger screen, has headphone jack, ir blaster and microsd card slot (mitigates the smaller storage on the n7), also newer so will get updates for longer.
xiaomi android one has been notorious for buggy updates too...:silly:

The Note 7 might not get updates for longer since the A2 is an Android One device with guaranteed updates of two major versions. I went for the Note 7 anyway since it has a headphone jack, gcam support, and an amazing camera for the price. I fully expect great things from custom roms by the time Xiaomi stops updating the Note 7

I used Mi A2 before and now 7s
7s advantage
1. Better LCD screen
2. Better Battery
3. Head phone jack
4. Better camera
5. Gcam
6. Better built
7. MIUI
8. Availability of custom ROM ( close to Android one Roms )
A2 advantage
1. Android one
So except Android one RN 7s is better and there are pixel experience roms to match the android one Rom on A2
Cheers
Karthi

smallmj said:
The Note 7 might not get updates for longer since the A2 is an Android One device with guaranteed updates of two major versions. I went for the Note 7 anyway since it has a headphone jack, gcam support, and an amazing camera for the price. I fully expect great things from custom roms by the time Xiaomi stops updating the Note 7
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android one doesn't mean anything in terms of update duration. all oems are supposed to abide to 2 years of android version updates and 3 years of security updates from when the phone is launched, of which xiaomi does well with most of its phones. it's really just a simple rule of whichever phone is newer gets updates until a later time.

I'm watching the comments and can see where this is going. Btw do you guys think the difference in storage and ram should be considered while making the decision cuz its 4gb/64gb (a2) vs 3gb/32gb (rn7) for the same price?

Mi Mix 3 5G or K20 Pro (9T Pro) or Mi Note 10 (CC9 Pro)

undecided which one to buy what are your suggestion
at least how does the Mi Mix 3 5G compare with the K20 pro
if the Mi note 10 would had snapdragon 855 without thinking i would have got that one

9T Pro for sure, it gets a lot of development while Mi Mix 3 is cool and all but development wise it's getting forgotten very fast and it's kind of heavy.
Mi Note 10 on the other hand seems to have great cameras and should be even better whith Gcam but the speakers are poor and it's got a mid end SOC.
All 3 are good but that's just my opinion.

The K20 Pro is getting treated like it's a flagship by Xiaomi, even though Redmi is supposed to be a second tier brand. Almost everyone on the K20 test group has Android 10 MIUI 11 and they got it before any of the other global devices got MIUI11. That's a real slap in the face when you are walking around with the "flagship" product in your pocket.
I see a LOT of people complaining about the CC9T and problems with the software in the global beta groups. I can't speak to the Mi Note 10 as I haven't had any note products. I have the Mix 3 CN 8/256, and the only other Xiaomi device I have is a Mix 2s (which has a broken cellular modem). I think Xiaomi makes cool hardware, and it's been fun messing with MIUI on a truly working device now for almost two years. However, I would say at this point if you don't need dual sim or something else they bring to the table, the best Android experience is Google Pixel. I have all 3 of the XL models as well, and they are hands down the best. I have really been enjoying carrying a single device with my work and personal SIMs in it, but having to fight with Google Pay and Airwatch for work (I can fix Pay with Magisk, but that deletes my work profile no matter what I do on every reboot), is making me seriously consider going back to a two device setup.