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X722 Any Problems? (buying decision X722 vs Mi A1)

Hello Guys,
I need a new phone, because my Umi Super died (long story short: it didn't like beer).
At first i thought the x722 would be a no brainer. Such nice specs for so little money.
But with the Umi Super i had other annoying problems like bad GPS and Camera etc.
Do you guys have similar experiences on the X722?
I am thinking of buying the X722 or the Xiaomi Mi A1. Great Hardware vs Great Software Support.
What would be your decision?
Thanks in advance!

If I were you, I'd buy the Xiaomi Mi A1. The Mi A1 has way more support, official updates and custom ROMs. But it's around $200 USD. The Pro3 Elite (x722) can usually be had for around $150 USD, but will never get any updates from LeEco. So it depends on how much you want to spend. Also, the LeEco Pro3 Elite doesn't have a headphone jack or expandable storage like the Mi A1 does.
I would never use the x722 as my daily driver, that's for sure. I only use mine as a media consumption device and nothing else. ROMs for the device are in development, but there are no completely bug-free Oreo or Nougat ROMs for the device, as no official ROM past 6.0 exists for it. LeEco has yet to release kernel sources for this specific device, and I doubt they ever will.
All of that said, if you're looking for a sole Android gaming device, then the LeEco Pro3 Elite is the phone for you. Especially for people who play a ton of online gacha games like Love Live, FE:Heroes, FGO, etc. The only minus is that the stock ROMs don't pass SafetyNet so you may run into some issues. I know some games only check for root, like FGO, but IDK about others. I play Japanese FGO and I've yet to see any stuttering or frame drops. Battery life is excellent, with 4000mAh to spare. I get 5+ SoT easily on my debloated 20s Banggood ROM.
Definitely way better gaming than what you'd get with the Snapdragon 625 in the Mi A1, even on a crappy Marshmallow ROM. The camera will also be better on the x722 than the Mi A1, since it has an IMX298 and not some random Omnivision sensor. But do note that camera software > camera sensor in many cases. There's no decent software support for the x722's IMX camera on the stock ROM and you have to root for the modded Gcam apk.
Also note that you might end up with an Omnivision sensor on your x722, as it's been reported that LeEco used different sensors for the phone, while still passing it off as an IMX phone... sigh.

Le Pro 3 for sure. Bigger battery, better SoC and UFS 2.0 storage. In terms of software support, the X722 is getting attention and development has picked up recently. For those reasons I ordered the phone a few days ago, don't know about GPS performance. In terms of photo quality, you need to do some research of your own to compare https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/comparison/25e2d4ae4

I was thinking of changing my secondary phone, and the Letv Pro3 LeEco Le Pro3 Dual AI got my attention, the phone looks nice with dual camera, 4GB RAM, Helio x27 processor, and affordable price of around $150, my only concern is the updates, the company has challanges now, bankrupted and looks like there will be no more support for the phone, should I go for the phone and forget any future updates ?

firstknight_eg said:
I was thinking of changing my secondary phone, and the Letv Pro3 LeEco Le Pro3 Dual AI got my attention, the phone looks nice with dual camera, 4GB RAM, Helio x27 processor, and affordable price of around $150, my only concern is the updates, the company has challanges now, bankrupted and looks like there will be no more support for the phone, should I go for the phone and forget any future updates ?
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Don't go for AI edition, it's in all means worse than normal X720 or X722. Dual camera means nothing and does nothing, all those phones have 4GB of RAM, and you can't even compare Helio X27 to Snapdragon 8xx. I'm 100% sure that you won't ever get any updates. It won't definitelly go from LeEco, and it won't go from the users either. If you'll go with X722, you can get it for 133 euros on Banggood right now, and there's already a fully functioning Android 8.1. AICP made by users. It's a no brainer for me really.

AleRx8 said:
Don't go for AI edition, it's in all means worse than normal X720 or X722. Dual camera means nothing and does nothing, all those phones have 4GB of RAM, and you can't even compare Helio X27 to Snapdragon 8xx. I'm 100% sure that you won't ever get any updates. It won't definitelly go from LeEco, and it won't go from the users either. If you'll go with X722, you can get it for 133 euros on Banggood right now, and there's already a fully functioning Android 8.1. AICP made by users. It's a no brainer for me really.
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I think I will go for the x722 almost same price, but has the support of the community, any other recommendations?

firstknight_eg said:
I think I will go for the x722 almost same price, but has the support of the community, any other recommendations?
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If you're buying a phone in this price category, you don't have that many choices. In the end it'll probably end with Xiaomi vs LeEco. If you want a large battery, go for Redmi Note 4X (with 4GB of RAM), but you have to like MIUI, and I don't. The most recommended phone is Mi A1, because it has that original Android and you just put it out of the box and have a complete phone. If you don't mind playing around with the phone and also have some experience, the Le Pro 3 is the best option out there, bang for the buck is great, and now with community ROMs the ratio is even higher.

AleRx8 said:
If you're buying a phone in this price category, you don't have that many choices. In the end it'll probably end with Xiaomi vs LeEco. If you want a large battery, go for Redmi Note 4X (with 4GB of RAM), but you have to like MIUI, and I don't. The most recommended phone is Mi A1, because it has that original Android and you just put it out of the box and have a complete phone. If you don't mind playing around with the phone and also have some experience, the Le Pro 3 is the best option out there, bang for the buck is great, and now with community ROMs the ratio is even higher.
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I already have MI MIX as a primary device, so for sure no need for another MI, will definitely look at the Le Pro 3
Thanks alot

I have both Lex722 and Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (same as Mi A1). If you want battery life go for Mi A1 or Redmi Note4. If you want more performance go for LeEco but everyday use is almost the same. LeEco with custom rom 7.0/8.0 you can also tweak for more battery. Can't go wrong for both of them. Xiaomi make pretty good phone/excellent battery life with stock rom it's fats and fluid Sd625.

Moon75 said:
I have both Lex722 and Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (same as Mi A1). If you want battery life go for Mi A1 or Redmi Note4. If you want more performance go for LeEco but everyday use is almost the same. LeEco with custom rom 7.0/8.0 you can also tweak for more battery. Can't go wrong for both of them. Xiaomi make pretty good phone/excellent battery life with stock rom it's fats and fluid Sd625.
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RN4 has a 4100mah battery while A1 has a 3080mah battery. So, they are not the same in terms of battery life!

camztouch said:
Hello Guys,
I need a new phone, because my Umi Super died (long story short: it didn't like beer).
At first i thought the x722 would be a no brainer. Such nice specs for so little money.
But with the Umi Super i had other annoying problems like bad GPS and Camera etc.
Do you guys have similar experiences on the X722?
I am thinking of buying the X722 or the Xiaomi Mi A1. Great Hardware vs Great Software Support.
What would be your decision?
Thanks in advance!
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Buy the Le Pro 3 from Amazon. It was $178 the last time I checked. There are many great custom ROMs for this device and the specs are stellar.

Should i buy a Xiaomi Mi A1?

Hello guys. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 5. Its 1.5 years old. I want to change my phone because of updates. İt wont take any updates after Nougat. And i decide i dont like Touchwizz after this phone. I will give my Note 5 to my father and take a phone. In my mind, there is three choice. First one is Xiaomi Mi A1. Its Android One phone and will take Android P too. Other hand i can take a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro. But i dont like 18:9 screen. I like MIUI but it wont take updates longer. Third one is Xiaomi Mi A2. Someone says, it will have Surge S2 processor. So i cant trust new cpus. Qualcomm is old in this world and its trustable. What do you think about ? What should i do ?

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Hello guys. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 5. Its 1.5 years old. I want to change my phone because of updates. İt wont take any updates after Nougat. And i decide i dont like Touchwizz after this phone. I will give my Note 5 to my father and take a phone. In my mind, there is three choice. First one is Xiaomi Mi A1. Its Android One phone and will take Android P too. Other hand i can take a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro. But i dont like 18:9 screen. I like MIUI but it wont take updates longer. Third one is Xiaomi Mi A2. Someone says, it will have Surge S2 processor. So i cant trust new cpus. Qualcomm is old in this world and its trustable. What do you think about ? What should i do ?
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ThePscho said:
Hello guys. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 5. Its 1.5 years old. I want to change my phone because of updates. İt wont take any updates after Nougat. And i decide i dont like Touchwizz after this phone. I will give my Note 5 to my father and take a phone. In my mind, there is three choice. First one is Xiaomi Mi A1. Its Android One phone and will take Android P too. Other hand i can take a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro. But i dont like 18:9 screen. I like MIUI but it wont take updates longer. Third one is Xiaomi Mi A2. Someone says, it will have Surge S2 processor. So i cant trust new cpus. Qualcomm is old in this world and its trustable. What do you think about ? What should i do ?
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I also had a Samsung Note 5 and I exchanged it with Mi A1 on olx. And I'm pretty happy with the device. RAM management and performance is at par with the Note 5. My note 5 didn't have a good battery backup and I had to charge it at least two times in 24 hours, but with this Mi A1 one full charge lasts me for over 24 hours.
The only thing I have felt was better on the Note 5, is the front facing camera. But that is just a small trade off!

hamzam4lik said:
I also had a Samsung Note 5 and I exchanged it with Mi A1 on olx. And I'm pretty happy with the device. RAM management and performance is at par with the Note 5. My note 5 didn't have a good battery backup and I had to charge it at least two times in 24 hours, but with this Mi A1 one full charge lasts me for over 24 hours.
The only thing I have felt was better on the Note 5, is the front facing camera. But that is just a small trade off!
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What do you think about roms of A1? And will someone port MIUI for this device ? I want to use Xiaomi with stock android and Miui. I love both.

ThePscho said:
What do you think about roms of A1? And will someone port MIUI for this device ? I want to use Xiaomi with stock android and Miui. I love both.
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It will take a while for miui to happen. if you are gonna flash a rom, flash nougat for now

ThePscho said:
What do you think about roms of A1? And will someone port MIUI for this device ? I want to use Xiaomi with stock android and Miui. I love both.
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Then Redmi note 4 is a better option for you.( I'm not suggesting Redmi note 5 as ROM development has not yet begun) It has MIUI preloaded, and there are many custom ROMs available for it. There's lineage os with treble support for it too.( Pixel Experience is also there, if you want stock). Mi a1 and redmi note 4 have the same hardware. The only difference is camera and battery.

Buddy I switched to mi a1 from Galaxy S5 after 4 years of using it. It's a different world, 10x better even though I had the best available custom software for S5. Now I'm on stock out of the box Mi a1 and I love it. Just get it from a store, go on Google and search for price comparison website for your country and get it with warranty for at least 12 months.
Have in mind, it's a budget phone, you won't pay much, you'll get a great quality phone in Android One program, but it won't function as a 1k iPhone, or 500$ flagship Android, but it will "get the job done" and it does it pretty well IMO.
When it comes to roms, if you want out of the box device with no problems and no need for modifing the system , mi a1 and A1 program is the perfect solution. When it becomes boring/slow, you can always modify it as much as you want since there are and there will be dozens of roms for mi a1, and this phone as a brand won't die out anytime soon, it's as been on unbox therapy just recently.
Conslusion, it's a good choice, but get a valid warranty, don't ask me why, you can ask both Google and this forum for an answer on that question.

Mi Max 3 is out. Will you upgrade?

Specs here
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-max-3-specifications-pricing-availability/

battery is great. sd625 works good enough for me. may be mi max 4. for now I'll stick with max 2.

word, same here plus, we have custom roms, something the MM3 will have to wait for for at least half a year.
himanshu_atrix2 said:
battery is great. sd625 works good enough for me. may be mi max 4. for now I'll stick with max 2.
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jbmc83 said:
word, same here plus, we habe custom roms, something the MM3 will have to wait for for at least half a year.
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Maybe it will not take so long for custom roms.
The Mi Max 3 specs state it will come with Android 8.1.
If this is true it will be factory "treble-enabled" and custom roms will show up a lot faster.

this is china model, right? any issue using it oustide china (apart from frequencies).
i mean google play will be available just fine, correct?

erwinsie said:
this is china model, right? any issue using it oustide china (apart from frequencies).
i mean google play will be available just fine, correct?
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Wait for the global model. Will be available most likely with in 2 weeks of release of this one

ayush4261 said:
Wait for the global model. Will be available most likely with in 2 weeks of release of this one
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ok. thanks will wait.
this would be my first xiaomi. cant use < 6" phone anymore, they are tiny!

in theory, yes. as long as the devs are willing to haul ass and use treble for custom roms
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Maybe it will not take so long for custom roms.
The Mi Max 3 specs state it will come with Android 8.1.
If this is true it will be factory "treble-enabled" and custom roms will show up a lot faster.
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not buy anymore. big screen but little update.

tom.android said:
not buy anymore. big screen but little update.
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me also slow very update. i have also redmi note 5 and like it more because every week or next always update

Mi Max 2 is still new. It's specs are still wonderful.
MM2 custom ROM scene has just matured.
I see no reason to upgrade just yet.
Never understood the urge to upgrade as soon as something new is released, especially when the current one working well.

I have had a mi max 1 and a mi max 2. Just ordered a mi 8, want to try a high spec phone for a change

No need to upgrade now even if max 3 is better than max 2 in many ways
1) 5g enabled chipsets will be available next year, around mid 2019 so it will be a waste to buy a phone now that will become old in just 6-10 months
2)its a personal preference but i hate the new aspect ratio designs the old 16:9 is the best as content available now is mostly by default in this ratio
3) Snapdragon 625 is more than adequate for any task / 636 is a very good upgrade but i want more power efficiency than performance. ie i want it to give more battery life than get performance
4) would love if the max series drops the LCD screen and opt for an AMOLED, more battery man?
5) as we are talking about replacing the display also remove the abomination called hybrid sim tray **** hybrid i want 2 sim and a card like the good old days of cell phones not this *****y pile of ****

kaku1992 said:
No need to upgrade now even if max 3 is better than max 2 in many ways
1) 5g enabled chipsets will be available next year, around mid 2019 so it will be a waste to buy a phone now that will become old in just 6-10 months
2)its a personal preference but i hate the new aspect ratio designs the old 16:9 is the best as content available now is mostly by default in this ratio
3) Snapdragon 625 is more than adequate for any task / 636 is a very good upgrade but i want more power efficiency than performance. ie i want it to give more battery life than get performance
4) would love if the max series drops the LCD screen and opt for an AMOLED, more battery man[emoji6]
5) as we are talking about replacing the display also remove the abomination called hybrid sim tray **** hybrid i want 2 sim and a card like the good old days of cell phones not this *****y pile of ****
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agree with all of the above haha although i doubt that 5g networks will be operational anytime soon, especially not in a manner that has sufficient coverage (i.e. outside of capital / major cities).
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No. No sense xD

Thanks to Mi Max 3, I just bought a Max 2 as my secondary device, my main one is HTC U11. Amazing battery life !!

amgreenhawk said:
Mi Max 2 is still new. It's specs are still wonderful.
MM2 custom ROM scene has just matured.
I see no reason to upgrade just yet.
Never understood the urge to upgrade as soon as something new is released, especially when the current one working well.
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Agreed, given that:
1/ Xiaomi has promised to deliver MIUI 10 for total 28 devices (some released back in 2015)
2/ Mi max equipped with Snapdragon 625, which also built in a plentiful of Xiaomi devices in 2017 and also 2018 (Redmi note 4, mi max 2, Redmi note 4X, Redmi 5 plus, Redmi 6 pro (Mi A2 lite), Mi5X (Mi A1), Redmi Y2, redmi 4 prime etc..)
I'm strongly believe that Xiaomi has a very good way of optimizing the Snapdragon 625 and the Max 2 will have the support for years to come.

For the new Mi Max 3, Xiaomi screwed up with the anti-rollback issue and disabling the flashing of Global rom on a Chinese rom phone and vice versa. It can brick if someone does it. There is a workaround posted in the guide section of Max 3 by omer919, but you can't use normal OTA updates anymore. Not sure how long this method will be supported, since it's not a custom-ROM based solution.
Global market (Mi Max 3) phones do NOT come with 6GB/128GB configuration. (At least so far that I know of.)
Big screen, very generous battery and infra-red are the only reason I like the Mi Max series, but the latest Xiaomi policy to prevent using exchanged ROM in the Max 3 puts me off.
So, after all these, are people STILL interested in getting the Max 3?

amgreenhawk said:
For the new Mi Max 3, Xiaomi screwed up with the anti-rollback issue and disabling the flashing of Global rom on a Chinese rom phone and vice versa. It can brick if someone does it. There is a workaround posted in the guide section of Max 3 by omer919, but you can't use normal OTA updates anymore. Not sure how long this method will be supported, since it's not a custom-ROM based solution.
Global market (Mi Max 3) phones do NOT come with 6GB/128GB configuration. (At least so far that I know of.)
Big screen, very generous battery and infra-red are the only reason I like the Mi Max series, but the latest Xiaomi policy to prevent using exchanged ROM in the Max 3 puts me off.
So, after all these, are people STILL interested in getting the Max 3?
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well this sux big time. did some research into this and its understandable why xiaomi is doing it, but also veeery annoying for enthusiast users... one more reason to love the hardware but refrain from flashing MIUI. just update the firmware and run custom AOSP based ROMs aside from that the MM3 is basically the only phone id consider buying, aside maybe from the poco f1...
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greetings
just received my new mi max 3 (64/4 GB chinese version with latest china developer rom) and im thinking of keeping my lovely max 2 guys
build quality is a step back in many way:
feels noticeably heavier and thicker in hand than max 2
power and volume buttons are a little hard to press
screen is bright more than u need+washed out colors = max 2 screen quality is way better for me
its notification LED is a joke! so smaller and poor light and still white color only!not visible and usable at all in days
full screen gestures always has annoying stutter even with more powerful chipset
battery life is a bit shorter than max 2 (overall one hour less SOT for my daily use)
no scratch resistent screen = scratched mine in just one day!
the only thing is about cameras and new chipset .really a huge upgrade in picture quality+video recording with EIS + selfie camera with LED light

Upgrade from Redmi Note 5 Pro?

Considering I can sell my RN5PRO to atleast 120€, should I go for RN7?
It's only 200€, so there are 80€ difference..

Honestly I have to give my RN5pro away to a family member (since her phone is broken). It's not such a noticable upgrade, sure the bezels are thinner and the camera is better (especially in low light).
Hard decision to make but if you are a camera enthusiast (and you don't want to spend 500€ on a phone like I do) then just go for it! Otherwise (in case you are an average user) I really wouldn't since RN5pro is still amazing and offers a lot of modding support.

Nah, don't do it. Still an amazing phone.

Despite mixed opinions, I still think that if you can control your budget, get the RN7. But take your workload to context, f.i gaming - get the RN7,bit's a great deal, normal task and want to have custom ROM - keep it since supporr for RN7 is limited 'till now, rather than waiting, save up some more for the Mi 8 or others :fingers-crossed:

Doesnt make sense, As SDM660 is nothing but an overclocked CPU / GPU of SDM636.
with this upgrade you will just get a more modern phone and nothing more.

I like technology and smartphones and so the other day I bought the Redmi Note 7 for 161 euros, even though I already had the Redmi Note 5 Pro Whyred.
The Redmi Note 5 is a great phone and with the Pixel Experience it guarantees an excellent user experience, but I never really thought of using it as a daily driver, basically because it has a really poor camera compared to other phones.
Instead, I find the room of the Redmi Note 7 really good and so I'm really excited about this phone and for me it was worth the upgrade!

Redmi Note 5 pro has 636 whereas Note 7 has 660, It's not a major upgrade from redmi not 5 pro to note 7 But SD 660 has better performance and graphics for gaming.

Kheppy said:
Considering I can sell my RN5PRO to atleast 120€, should I go for RN7?
It's only 200€, so there are 80€ difference..
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Yes it's a good upgrade.

Mi Mix 3 5G or K20 Pro (9T Pro) or Mi Note 10 (CC9 Pro)

undecided which one to buy what are your suggestion
at least how does the Mi Mix 3 5G compare with the K20 pro
if the Mi note 10 would had snapdragon 855 without thinking i would have got that one

9T Pro for sure, it gets a lot of development while Mi Mix 3 is cool and all but development wise it's getting forgotten very fast and it's kind of heavy.
Mi Note 10 on the other hand seems to have great cameras and should be even better whith Gcam but the speakers are poor and it's got a mid end SOC.
All 3 are good but that's just my opinion.

The K20 Pro is getting treated like it's a flagship by Xiaomi, even though Redmi is supposed to be a second tier brand. Almost everyone on the K20 test group has Android 10 MIUI 11 and they got it before any of the other global devices got MIUI11. That's a real slap in the face when you are walking around with the "flagship" product in your pocket.
I see a LOT of people complaining about the CC9T and problems with the software in the global beta groups. I can't speak to the Mi Note 10 as I haven't had any note products. I have the Mix 3 CN 8/256, and the only other Xiaomi device I have is a Mix 2s (which has a broken cellular modem). I think Xiaomi makes cool hardware, and it's been fun messing with MIUI on a truly working device now for almost two years. However, I would say at this point if you don't need dual sim or something else they bring to the table, the best Android experience is Google Pixel. I have all 3 of the XL models as well, and they are hands down the best. I have really been enjoying carrying a single device with my work and personal SIMs in it, but having to fight with Google Pay and Airwatch for work (I can fix Pay with Magisk, but that deletes my work profile no matter what I do on every reboot), is making me seriously consider going back to a two device setup.