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Redmi 3S pro or 3 pro

I am looking to buy a new phone and right now I am split between the Redmi 3 pro and Redmi 3S pro. I love the way they look on paper. The battery, the lack of a 1080p screen is a pro (I find 1080p screens on <6" phones useless, 900p should be the norm here), the size, the price, the RAM.
The only difference I know is in the SoC. The one in 3S looks more future-proof (Adreno 505), but it's useless to be future proof if no one is taking advantage of that.
I know I should give it time, but the only people talking about the 3S are "thanks" commenters on the miui forums. Google searching that phones yields results for the Redmi 3. It has no global ROM. There are 3 threads about it on XDA, none having a reply.
Which one should I go for?

man what are you talking about.720p is more than enought for redmi 3.why do you want to waste battery and performance for just a 1080 p screen which is useless in real life.redmi 3 has very good screen.ya 3s is futureproof and redmi 3 does not has global rom bt i am happy with chinese stable cause its more stable than global rom + it gets update faster.and its not too hard to install plastore ya know.

Sorry, all that's mentioned there were pro's. I personally HATE that they need to put 1080p screens on everything, 440 dpi is overkill...
What about MIUI killing apps in the background? I read about that a lot.

miui killing background app? just lock that app in task manager then it will stay there till u kill the app urself

Anything you get will be great. All the phones you are considering are just as good. So if you can find one of the phones at a better price, get it. You won't be disappointed. However I find that development is lacking on the Redmi 3. While there are a lot of ROMs, they have their bugs. This is a pretty new phone so it will get updates on MIUI. As long as you like the skin, you will be good.
I personally can't stand MIUI so I'm glad I got the Mi4c. You should consider it too. It's got a 1080p display and a better processor (SD 808) but only 3000mah battery (which still gets me 6 hours SOT) and no SD card.

My vote would be for the 3S and hope it gets some dev support.

Just ordered a Redmi 3s

Mi4c was my first option before some local retailer advertised Redmi 3S and I found about them. Still, Redmi 3S it's like 70% of the price of the Mi4c here and that battery.... That battery. I dislike miui too, but global ROM is coming.

Snapdragon 430 supports quick charge 3.0 so I assume it is supported by the 3S model. This is a good reason for choosing 3S

[DISCUSSION] What phone do you buy next time and why?

My biggest reasons to leave Samsung is because of the updates and features that doesn't come to older devices like features of the s7 to the s6. I'm really really sick of samsungs updates always late.
I just want to know what phone you gonna buy next time and why?
1.) OnePlus 5
2.) Nokia 8
3.) LG G6
4.) Samsung Galaxy s8
5.) Pixel 2
6.) Huawei p10
7.) Sony Xperia XZ Premium

the S8 is the #1 phone in my mind, hope they do something new, the pixel is ugly, the V20 is an LG...which i hate...and their UI is the worst, the iphone is......no need to say.....so the S8 might be the only phone for me....

I'm actually switching to the iPhone 7[emoji1] . Definitely away from Samsung!

No idea really. Want to go back to stock so won't be a Samsung. The OP3 is too big, 5.1 is ideal. Pixel is too expensive. There's nothing, atm.

xiaomi for me. maybe the successor to the mi5/mi5s. preferrably one with strong aosp support so I can test out miui and aosp roms

OP3. AOSP is a must, and this time I want to buy atleast 5.5" screen. OP3 has better design, battery, performance, and software.

Probably S8 or Note 8. I really like new Grace UX and the design of their hardware.

Most likely S8 but will see what is available when I can extend my phone contract again.
Haven't really had a reason yet to leave the Galaxy S line (S2, S4, S6). But if I switch it most likely will be because of the support for custom roms.

I'm thinking 1+3 but not really sure. Something with a high XDA forum threads count and stable AOSP roms.

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babanasor said:
My biggest reasons to leave Samsung is because of the updates and features that doesn't come to older devices like features of the s7 to the s6. I'm really really sick of samsungs updates always late so do guys think we are getting the grace ux to the s6?
And i hope i can get the new pixel so i have the latest features and updates of android.
I just want to know what phone you gonna buy next time and why?
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I will go for note 8 if they releas..

Before my s6e I had a HTC m7 with AOSP and that was really good, now with my s6e I just think that much power (cpu power) is a little useless (at least for me). I'm looking for a better battery phone and not that expensive like s7e or note series. So probably getting a xiaomi redmi 4 prime.

Wyzp said:
Before my s6e I had a HTC m7 with AOSP and that was really good, now with my s6e I just think that much power (cpu power) is a little useless (at least for me). I'm looking for a better battery phone and not that expensive like s7e or note series. So probably getting a xiaomi redmi 4 prime.
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maybe OP3 its cheap and has high end specs???

babanasor said:
maybe OP3 its cheap and has high end specs???
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Maybe, but I'm thinking about the redmi 4 prime because the battery is freaking awesome.

Wyzp said:
Maybe, but I'm thinking about the redmi 4 prime because the battery is freaking awesome.
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if it is somthing you really want just do it

Might go for S7 Edge after the release of S8 haha. Thought of Redmi 4 prime too, but camera department on Xiaomi is sad Was thinking of Mi Note 2, but for 50€ more, I can get S7 Edge ...

I really love my S6 but the battery is really bad for me and I'm always struggling getting through the day. So, I'm intensively checking my options, escpecially all those new Chinese phones like ZUK Z2 Pro, LeEco Le Pro 3 which provide quite some bang for the buck. But all those phones have one or more disadvantages like bad camera, no IR blaster (I actually use that a lot) that I can't accpet.
I spent less than 400€ getting my S6 new about 14 months ago and I don't want to spend more on the next phone I get. I think currently the Oneplus 3 is probably the best option considering the good XDA support and ok camera. But it is still not nice enough for me to spend the 399€ that it would cost (no used phones around here in Germany).
So, I think I have to live with my S6 a little longer. Currently searching the best ROM and kernel to get at least the best out of the battery that is possible.

Most likely something what is NOT from Samsung but I'll see...
I'm quite open to different brands since anyone can create a great device.
For now I'm thinking about either Pixel or even an iPhone (I can barely believe I said it )

if ever i leave my s6 and samsung,i want to own iphone again,maybe 6s plus or 7 if only have money,in most situation i always found that iphone has lesser factory defect than samsung,and the updates is awesome,very fluid and optimized o.s ,downside is very expensive,cant afford ?

Google Pixel 2 maybe !

DoO37 said:
Google Pixel 2 maybe !
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OOOWHHH YES BABY !!!! sorry about that but yes i want that one to even the pixel i want to buy if i have money to buy it

Zenfone 3 Development

Hello guys.
I currently own a Zenfone 2 ZE551ML running CM13.
I fell in love with the ZE552KL (I wanted to buy the Zenfone 3 deluxe version but its way out of budget)
I can acquire the ZE552KL for fairly cheap but what's setting me back from getting one is the possibility of not having Lineage OS support since I don't like the bloated ASUS ROM although there is a custom debloated version in here.
Also the ZF2 was an X86 phone and the community support was quite big, so I assume that the successor with a Snapdragon will have an even bigger community
The question is: Can I buy it and expect a RR or LOS ROM in the future or not ?

This is a big issue, at the moment we do not have custom rom yet. I hope Lineage OS will support our device, I tried it on my Nexus 7 2013 and it is really good.

Possibly, possibly not. Keep in mind that ROM developers are hobbyists developing ROMs in their spare time. It just so happens that there isn't a very large developer community for the Zenfone 3 compared to the Zenfone 2. The Zenfone 2 had a huge amount of publicity behind it - really decent specs for a really great price, in an age where budget phones were getting really good, but still had slow low-end processors. The Zenfone 2 got covered by every major tech website, and was largely received pretty well by enthusiasts. And thus, it had a decent dev community. Issues with the Zenfone 2 started to crop up before long though, and the hype died down pretty much as fast as it came in. Nowadays the only reference you'll find to the Zenfone 2 on forums and around the internet was that it was a phone with great specs, but terrible quality assurance, even worse software, and very bad update support to boot. Because of all this, the enthusiast crowd that the Zenfone 2 aimed to cater to mostly drifted away from the ASUS brand over to OnePlus, Motorola, and Xiaomi - just to name a few. It's a shame, since the Zenfone 3 mostly fixes the problems the Zenfone 2 had and is actually a really nice phone. And it's unlikely that ASUS is going to get the enthusiast crowd back - at least not any time soon. The Zenfone 3 is just not priced competitively in most markets. In the U.S. for example, the phone costs almost as much as the OnePlus 3T, a device with tons of developer support and much higher specs. In some markets it's priced better (it's a steal here in Canada), but it won't be enough to draw back the enthusiast crowd for the foreseeable future.
As it stands now, the user base of the Zenfone 3 is relatively small. With most of the enthusiast market gone (they fled the ASUS brand after the disaster that was the Zenfone 2), all that's really left is a small group of dedicated fans. So far all the ROM development for this phone have been lightly modified versions of the stock ROM, and there is no sign of any other ROMs being in development right now. Unless you can deal with the stock ROM - which, for what it's worth, has gotten much better in Android Nougat - I wouldn't recommend this phone if you're hoping for custom ROM support. Maybe this'll change in the future, but for right now, I wouldn't place any bets on there being any more custom ROMs released in the foreseeable future.

I was reluctant to buy the Zenfone 3 given that there are no custom ROMs available yet. I was also was very interested in a phone from OnePlus or Xiaomi, but the price difference was just too high. However, I just could not find any other phone with the specs that I wanted without spending at least $150 more (in Canada).
Although I am hoping for LineageOS for the Zenfone 3, I find the stock software tolerable. My old Zenfone 2 was the first phone that I have had that I could live with the stock ROM. The Zenfone 3 is marginally better and the battery life is the best I have experienced (even compared to my work iPhone).
One the one hand, I want to encourage people to get this phone (the more users, the more likely custom ROMs will be made). On the other hand, I am reluctant to recommend this phone as there is no certainty that LineageOS will ever be made for it.
BTW. The NewEgg deal on eBay is really good. To me, hands down the best value phone currently in Canada.

What made think of buying a Zenfone 3 is the fact that if I settle for an used it it will cost half of the One Plus 3
Sent from my Asus ZenFone 2 using XDA Labs

PedroCaseiro said:
What made think of buying a Zenfone 3 is the fact that if I settle for an used it it will cost half of the One Plus 3
Sent from my Asus ZenFone 2 using XDA Labs
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That's probably not a bad deal then, again if you can tolerate ZenUI. The hardware is much improved over the Zenfone 2, the build quality is suddenly amazing. Specs in the ZE552KL actually are about the same as in the Zenfone 2 ZE551ML though when you look at pure performance. Battery life is great, and the camera suddenly doesn't suck either. The fingerprint reader is fast, too. The lack of NFC is unfortunate, and the camera app is still pretty much unchanged from the Zenfone 2 (so, slow in other words). Still, I'd say for the price it's pretty good, and certainly a better phone overall than the Zenfone 2.

What's gonna be your next phone after the Mi Max 2?

The large phone segment is small so there aren't many options for those of us who like these large phone. I personally love large phones like the Max 2 because no notch and I love big screens, big battery, and I don't keep my phone in my pocket (I keep it in my purse ).
The only downside on phones in this segment are software and camera since neither of Google, OnePlus or Nokia make such large phones. But I am currently running the Pixel Experience ROM on the Max 2 which I have been enjoying.
So I am wondering, what's the next phone upgrade folks here are looking forward to or are planning to upgrade to?

daubh said:
The large phone segment is small so there aren't many options for those of us who like these large phone. I personally love large phones like the Max 2 because no notch and I love big screens, big battery, and I don't keep my phone in my pocket (I keep it in my purse ).
The only downside on phones in this segment are software and camera since neither of Google, OnePlus or Nokia make such large phones. But I am currently running the Pixel Experience ROM on the Max 2 which I have been enjoying.
So I am wondering, what's the next phone upgrade folks here are looking forward to or are planning to upgrade to?
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well ill be sticking to my MM2 for a while, but if i were on the market for a new phone, it would most likely be one of the following:
Mi Max 3 (natural choice as the MM2 successor)
Pocophone F1 (compromise of smaller display and battery but very high end hardware and well supported in the community, total OnePlus 6(T) competitor if u ask me!)
Mate 20 (Pro) (awesome specs and style, but sadly locked bootloader. so just a choice for those who could live without any AOSP custom roms)

I think the biggest potential going forward will be the foldable phones/tablets. Imagine a 5-incher AMOLED unfolded into a 7-plus inch tablet.
The manufacturers will need to get this right.

Shaolian said:
I think the biggest potential going forward will be the foldable phones/tablets. Imagine a 5-incher AMOLED unfolded into a 7-plus inch tablet.
The manufacturers will need to get this right.
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ooor, as in the case of the mi max class: a 7 inch phone unfoldable into a 10-12 inch tablet
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk

Well, if you ask me I will this time buy a last year's (or maybe even two years old flagship device). I really love modding and flaghisps seems to be getting the best of it as most developers get either flaghisps or few mid-range high selling devices. Max series are sepcific device, and even though I like the big screen I think not so many people are interested in it; including: regular people, developers and even Xiaomi People due to releasing incomplete sources Plus, I think that with flagships you are investing even better in the future. You can sell it easier, you get way better hardware and if you don't get time to modd it and actually get to love the device you can keep it for years as hardware has evolved so much and has potential to last for years to come. This is my two cents on this topic
Sooo, my next device, if in 1-2 years it gets enough of developers love (and they most probably will) will be one of these (has to have official bootloader unlocking method):
- Mi Mix 3,
- Mi Mix 2s,
- OnePlus 6T or
- if they get to 6,4+ no notch screens maybe something from Mi 8,9,10 series

Enjoying my Mi Max 3 since I dropped my Mi Max 2 and no one stocks a screen for it. Repairmen look at me like I have 2 heads! ?

Mi Max 2 replacement
First of all, Mi Max 2 is just really awesome. I will use it some more time before replacing with a newer one. But, Here are the mobiles that I might prefer for replacement:
Huawei Mate 20X- My only gripe is the FHD+ display given the price tag. Otherwise, an excellent device.
Honor Note 10
Pocophone F1
Mi Max 3
Honor 8x Max
I would like to know what others think of mate 20xx

SaiTejVejju said:
First of all, Mi Max 2 is just really awesome. I will use it some more time before replacing with a newer one. But, Here are the mobiles that I might prefer for replacement:
Huawei Mate 20X- My only gripe is the FHD+ display given the price tag. Otherwise, an excellent device.
Honor Note 10
Pocophone F1
Mi Max 3
Honor 8x Max
I would like to know what others think of mate 20xx
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mate 20 is really awesome, but as i said before: honor and huawei phones are out of the question now because u cant unlock their bootloader, that means no custom roms ever for those devices!
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk

Yeah, the Mate 20 X sounds absolutely superb but the bootloader kills it stone dead for me. I'd love a Mi Max Pro with amoled and 845, it would be an instant buy.

I already bought Samsung galaxy note 9 but to tell you the truth I have a hard time letting go of mi max 2. The note 9 screen feels tiny compared to mi max and I keep thinking that maybe I made a mistake in buying the note 9 . Also I found that the mi max 2 combined with the gcam mod of pixel 3 produces better pictures in low light with night mode than note 9. I know that it might sound unrealistic but it is the truth. The one only things that I prefer in note 9 is the qi charging, the USB c to hdmi capability and the better speakers. All in all keep enjoying your mi max 2 and Dont rush into a new smartphone.

Well the mate 20 x can now be bootloader unlocked and rooted so possibly going to be moving there in the next month if nothing else interesting crops up. The Note 10 will probably be great but the screen is too narrow for my liking.

Elementstv said:
I already bought Samsung galaxy note 9 but to tell you the truth I have a hard time letting go of mi max 2. The note 9 screen feels tiny compared to mi max and I keep thinking that maybe I made a mistake in buying the note 9 . Also I found that the mi max 2 combined with the gcam mod of pixel 3 produces better pictures in low light with night mode than note 9. I know that it might sound unrealistic but it is the truth. The one only things that I prefer in note 9 is the qi charging, the USB c to hdmi capability and the better speakers. All in all keep enjoying your mi max 2 and Dont rush into a new smartphone.
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Could you please share with us which gcam mod of pixel 3 you're using on you Max2, tks.

ne0t said:
Could you please share with us which gcam mod of pixel 3 you're using on you Max2, tks.
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I installed this rom, which has the google camera app already installed. It is great. It's the only way I could find, in order to use pixel 3 google camera on mi max 2. You will be impressed with the results.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-2/development/rom-lineageos-16-0-t3874986

mi max 4 ?
I have low vision.

probably galaxy note 9

Phone is good at least for the next 2 Jears i guess

FlamingGoat said:
Well the mate 20 x can now be bootloader unlocked and rooted so possibly going to be moving there in the next month if nothing else interesting crops up. The Note 10 will probably be great but the screen is too narrow for my liking.
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Unlock codes ain't free for Huawei.

I am bit worried which phone to get next. There is not any hurry though because this is still working pretty good.
Mi Max 3 has been unable to attract large development community (at least on XDA forums). I am afraid that the same is going to happen to Mi Max 4. Specially after Xiaomi made life of enthusiastists more difficult with recent decisions.
I wouldn't want to have any of those ridiculously small phones that seem to be the only other options.

wwwwe said:
I am bit worried which phone to get next. There is not any hurry though because this is still working pretty good.
Mi Max 3 has been unable to attract large development community (at least on XDA forums). I am afraid that the same is going to happen to Mi Max 4. Specially after Xiaomi made life of enthusiastists more difficult with recent decisions.
I wouldn't want to have any of those ridiculously small phones that seem to be the only other options.
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Phone ist good for 2 more years. I stay to it.
But after, no more Huawei, they are not political correct and i do not give my money to them anymore.

Mi Max 3 or 4. I dont think my eyes and hands will want anything smaller. I came from a very small phone (xperia z5 compact) to this very large phone. Just like moving from a mini cooper to a hummer!
Besides the pricing is just right, i dont need all the power of SD 845, nor the picture quality of a Canon.

[Q] Is it worth to buy?

I don't know if I'm right to post it here, but I have one single doubt before choosing between Le Pro3 or something like Redmi 7 (that is really slightly cheaper). I was looking at this device's xda forum and found some people reporting that their phones got suddenly hard bricked. I wanna know how common is this issue. Could I buy it or probably some unexpected death will haunt my phone usage?

No, stick with Redmi. Too many risks involved with this one in particular. It wasn't released outside of China. The x720 and x722 are total bang-for-your-buck devices though. If you can get them for like $120 USD or something, then go for it

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I don't know if I'm right to post it here, but I have one single doubt before choosing between Le Pro3 or something like Redmi 7 (that is really slightly cheaper). I was looking at this device's xda forum and found some people reporting that their phones got suddenly hard bricked. I wanna know how common is this issue. Could I buy it or probably some unexpected death will haunt my phone usage?
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I completely agree with @sk8223
Absolutely the Le pro3's with the Snapdragon 821 or 820 processors are a fantastic phone without a doubt. The problem is that some of those bargains at $120 and actually refurbished units and I have heard stories about the quality not being as good as the original.
Meanwhile the Redmi Note 7 Pro comes with a Snapdragon 675 and an excellent camera, modern bezels and if you buy the global version the software is excellent.
Yes, there are many great Roms for the Le Pro 3. However, the Le pro 3 will always be stuck with using an old kernel 3.18, and unfortunately updating kernel any further is a monumental task that is simply not going to happen. So in my opinion, I also feel that you are much better off with a New Redmi Note 7 pro

Biggest issue with the LePro3 is the usb port burning out and the battery wearing out. Both are replaceable but it's an involved process that requires a heat gun to remove the screen.
The parts are cheap though. I got the usb board for $5, a replacement battery for $20 and replacement screen for about $17. These are cheaper than iPhone parts!
Other than that, 4 GB of Ram and Snapdragon 821 cpu is great.

Have any Le Pro 3 owners switched to a Note 7? My Le Pro 3 Elite is working fine but I have been thinking that the Redmi might be a worthy upgrade.

I've owned the Pro 3 x727 since release. The USB port and battery are fine, it can still hit 8+ hours of SOT. Would I suggest the Pro 3 to someone in 2019? No. It's easy to find nicer phones at a similar price. For example, the 3a was going for ~150 after trade in.
Some newer phones have better thermals- which allows them to maintain their peaks longer. If you play games this is obvious. Let's say you're playing PUBG @60fps and recording, the Pro 3 will heat up and throttle. That 60 will soon turn into a stuttery mess.
Then you have to consider sensors. Pro 3 lacks a wide angle and telephoto lens. Thus, limiting the type of images a user can capture. In addition, 64GB doesn't provide much room, at least not for me.
The Note 7 has an SD slot, modern design, and a taller display. Seems like a no-brainer.

One thing I would keep note of it whether the redmi has the band's you need for lte. I know it depends on the cell provider and carrier. But a lot of these international version phones tend not to have the same extended bands needed for indoor coverage in the US