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Zenfone 3 Development

Hello guys.
I currently own a Zenfone 2 ZE551ML running CM13.
I fell in love with the ZE552KL (I wanted to buy the Zenfone 3 deluxe version but its way out of budget)
I can acquire the ZE552KL for fairly cheap but what's setting me back from getting one is the possibility of not having Lineage OS support since I don't like the bloated ASUS ROM although there is a custom debloated version in here.
Also the ZF2 was an X86 phone and the community support was quite big, so I assume that the successor with a Snapdragon will have an even bigger community
The question is: Can I buy it and expect a RR or LOS ROM in the future or not ?

This is a big issue, at the moment we do not have custom rom yet. I hope Lineage OS will support our device, I tried it on my Nexus 7 2013 and it is really good.

Possibly, possibly not. Keep in mind that ROM developers are hobbyists developing ROMs in their spare time. It just so happens that there isn't a very large developer community for the Zenfone 3 compared to the Zenfone 2. The Zenfone 2 had a huge amount of publicity behind it - really decent specs for a really great price, in an age where budget phones were getting really good, but still had slow low-end processors. The Zenfone 2 got covered by every major tech website, and was largely received pretty well by enthusiasts. And thus, it had a decent dev community. Issues with the Zenfone 2 started to crop up before long though, and the hype died down pretty much as fast as it came in. Nowadays the only reference you'll find to the Zenfone 2 on forums and around the internet was that it was a phone with great specs, but terrible quality assurance, even worse software, and very bad update support to boot. Because of all this, the enthusiast crowd that the Zenfone 2 aimed to cater to mostly drifted away from the ASUS brand over to OnePlus, Motorola, and Xiaomi - just to name a few. It's a shame, since the Zenfone 3 mostly fixes the problems the Zenfone 2 had and is actually a really nice phone. And it's unlikely that ASUS is going to get the enthusiast crowd back - at least not any time soon. The Zenfone 3 is just not priced competitively in most markets. In the U.S. for example, the phone costs almost as much as the OnePlus 3T, a device with tons of developer support and much higher specs. In some markets it's priced better (it's a steal here in Canada), but it won't be enough to draw back the enthusiast crowd for the foreseeable future.
As it stands now, the user base of the Zenfone 3 is relatively small. With most of the enthusiast market gone (they fled the ASUS brand after the disaster that was the Zenfone 2), all that's really left is a small group of dedicated fans. So far all the ROM development for this phone have been lightly modified versions of the stock ROM, and there is no sign of any other ROMs being in development right now. Unless you can deal with the stock ROM - which, for what it's worth, has gotten much better in Android Nougat - I wouldn't recommend this phone if you're hoping for custom ROM support. Maybe this'll change in the future, but for right now, I wouldn't place any bets on there being any more custom ROMs released in the foreseeable future.

I was reluctant to buy the Zenfone 3 given that there are no custom ROMs available yet. I was also was very interested in a phone from OnePlus or Xiaomi, but the price difference was just too high. However, I just could not find any other phone with the specs that I wanted without spending at least $150 more (in Canada).
Although I am hoping for LineageOS for the Zenfone 3, I find the stock software tolerable. My old Zenfone 2 was the first phone that I have had that I could live with the stock ROM. The Zenfone 3 is marginally better and the battery life is the best I have experienced (even compared to my work iPhone).
One the one hand, I want to encourage people to get this phone (the more users, the more likely custom ROMs will be made). On the other hand, I am reluctant to recommend this phone as there is no certainty that LineageOS will ever be made for it.
BTW. The NewEgg deal on eBay is really good. To me, hands down the best value phone currently in Canada.

What made think of buying a Zenfone 3 is the fact that if I settle for an used it it will cost half of the One Plus 3
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PedroCaseiro said:
What made think of buying a Zenfone 3 is the fact that if I settle for an used it it will cost half of the One Plus 3
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That's probably not a bad deal then, again if you can tolerate ZenUI. The hardware is much improved over the Zenfone 2, the build quality is suddenly amazing. Specs in the ZE552KL actually are about the same as in the Zenfone 2 ZE551ML though when you look at pure performance. Battery life is great, and the camera suddenly doesn't suck either. The fingerprint reader is fast, too. The lack of NFC is unfortunate, and the camera app is still pretty much unchanged from the Zenfone 2 (so, slow in other words). Still, I'd say for the price it's pretty good, and certainly a better phone overall than the Zenfone 2.

Should i buy a Xiaomi Mi A1?

Hello guys. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 5. Its 1.5 years old. I want to change my phone because of updates. İt wont take any updates after Nougat. And i decide i dont like Touchwizz after this phone. I will give my Note 5 to my father and take a phone. In my mind, there is three choice. First one is Xiaomi Mi A1. Its Android One phone and will take Android P too. Other hand i can take a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro. But i dont like 18:9 screen. I like MIUI but it wont take updates longer. Third one is Xiaomi Mi A2. Someone says, it will have Surge S2 processor. So i cant trust new cpus. Qualcomm is old in this world and its trustable. What do you think about ? What should i do ?

ThePscho said:
Hello guys. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 5. Its 1.5 years old. I want to change my phone because of updates. İt wont take any updates after Nougat. And i decide i dont like Touchwizz after this phone. I will give my Note 5 to my father and take a phone. In my mind, there is three choice. First one is Xiaomi Mi A1. Its Android One phone and will take Android P too. Other hand i can take a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro. But i dont like 18:9 screen. I like MIUI but it wont take updates longer. Third one is Xiaomi Mi A2. Someone says, it will have Surge S2 processor. So i cant trust new cpus. Qualcomm is old in this world and its trustable. What do you think about ? What should i do ?
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Yes
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ThePscho said:
Hello guys. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 5. Its 1.5 years old. I want to change my phone because of updates. İt wont take any updates after Nougat. And i decide i dont like Touchwizz after this phone. I will give my Note 5 to my father and take a phone. In my mind, there is three choice. First one is Xiaomi Mi A1. Its Android One phone and will take Android P too. Other hand i can take a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro. But i dont like 18:9 screen. I like MIUI but it wont take updates longer. Third one is Xiaomi Mi A2. Someone says, it will have Surge S2 processor. So i cant trust new cpus. Qualcomm is old in this world and its trustable. What do you think about ? What should i do ?
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I also had a Samsung Note 5 and I exchanged it with Mi A1 on olx. And I'm pretty happy with the device. RAM management and performance is at par with the Note 5. My note 5 didn't have a good battery backup and I had to charge it at least two times in 24 hours, but with this Mi A1 one full charge lasts me for over 24 hours.
The only thing I have felt was better on the Note 5, is the front facing camera. But that is just a small trade off!

hamzam4lik said:
I also had a Samsung Note 5 and I exchanged it with Mi A1 on olx. And I'm pretty happy with the device. RAM management and performance is at par with the Note 5. My note 5 didn't have a good battery backup and I had to charge it at least two times in 24 hours, but with this Mi A1 one full charge lasts me for over 24 hours.
The only thing I have felt was better on the Note 5, is the front facing camera. But that is just a small trade off!
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What do you think about roms of A1? And will someone port MIUI for this device ? I want to use Xiaomi with stock android and Miui. I love both.

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What do you think about roms of A1? And will someone port MIUI for this device ? I want to use Xiaomi with stock android and Miui. I love both.
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It will take a while for miui to happen. if you are gonna flash a rom, flash nougat for now

ThePscho said:
What do you think about roms of A1? And will someone port MIUI for this device ? I want to use Xiaomi with stock android and Miui. I love both.
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Then Redmi note 4 is a better option for you.( I'm not suggesting Redmi note 5 as ROM development has not yet begun) It has MIUI preloaded, and there are many custom ROMs available for it. There's lineage os with treble support for it too.( Pixel Experience is also there, if you want stock). Mi a1 and redmi note 4 have the same hardware. The only difference is camera and battery.

Buddy I switched to mi a1 from Galaxy S5 after 4 years of using it. It's a different world, 10x better even though I had the best available custom software for S5. Now I'm on stock out of the box Mi a1 and I love it. Just get it from a store, go on Google and search for price comparison website for your country and get it with warranty for at least 12 months.
Have in mind, it's a budget phone, you won't pay much, you'll get a great quality phone in Android One program, but it won't function as a 1k iPhone, or 500$ flagship Android, but it will "get the job done" and it does it pretty well IMO.
When it comes to roms, if you want out of the box device with no problems and no need for modifing the system , mi a1 and A1 program is the perfect solution. When it becomes boring/slow, you can always modify it as much as you want since there are and there will be dozens of roms for mi a1, and this phone as a brand won't die out anytime soon, it's as been on unbox therapy just recently.
Conslusion, it's a good choice, but get a valid warranty, don't ask me why, you can ask both Google and this forum for an answer on that question.

Mi Max 3 is out. Will you upgrade?

Specs here
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-max-3-specifications-pricing-availability/

battery is great. sd625 works good enough for me. may be mi max 4. for now I'll stick with max 2.

word, same here plus, we have custom roms, something the MM3 will have to wait for for at least half a year.
himanshu_atrix2 said:
battery is great. sd625 works good enough for me. may be mi max 4. for now I'll stick with max 2.
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jbmc83 said:
word, same here plus, we habe custom roms, something the MM3 will have to wait for for at least half a year.
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Maybe it will not take so long for custom roms.
The Mi Max 3 specs state it will come with Android 8.1.
If this is true it will be factory "treble-enabled" and custom roms will show up a lot faster.

this is china model, right? any issue using it oustide china (apart from frequencies).
i mean google play will be available just fine, correct?

erwinsie said:
this is china model, right? any issue using it oustide china (apart from frequencies).
i mean google play will be available just fine, correct?
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Wait for the global model. Will be available most likely with in 2 weeks of release of this one

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Wait for the global model. Will be available most likely with in 2 weeks of release of this one
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ok. thanks will wait.
this would be my first xiaomi. cant use < 6" phone anymore, they are tiny!

in theory, yes. as long as the devs are willing to haul ass and use treble for custom roms
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Maybe it will not take so long for custom roms.
The Mi Max 3 specs state it will come with Android 8.1.
If this is true it will be factory "treble-enabled" and custom roms will show up a lot faster.
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not buy anymore. big screen but little update.

tom.android said:
not buy anymore. big screen but little update.
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me also slow very update. i have also redmi note 5 and like it more because every week or next always update

Mi Max 2 is still new. It's specs are still wonderful.
MM2 custom ROM scene has just matured.
I see no reason to upgrade just yet.
Never understood the urge to upgrade as soon as something new is released, especially when the current one working well.

I have had a mi max 1 and a mi max 2. Just ordered a mi 8, want to try a high spec phone for a change

No need to upgrade now even if max 3 is better than max 2 in many ways
1) 5g enabled chipsets will be available next year, around mid 2019 so it will be a waste to buy a phone now that will become old in just 6-10 months
2)its a personal preference but i hate the new aspect ratio designs the old 16:9 is the best as content available now is mostly by default in this ratio
3) Snapdragon 625 is more than adequate for any task / 636 is a very good upgrade but i want more power efficiency than performance. ie i want it to give more battery life than get performance
4) would love if the max series drops the LCD screen and opt for an AMOLED, more battery man?
5) as we are talking about replacing the display also remove the abomination called hybrid sim tray **** hybrid i want 2 sim and a card like the good old days of cell phones not this *****y pile of ****

kaku1992 said:
No need to upgrade now even if max 3 is better than max 2 in many ways
1) 5g enabled chipsets will be available next year, around mid 2019 so it will be a waste to buy a phone now that will become old in just 6-10 months
2)its a personal preference but i hate the new aspect ratio designs the old 16:9 is the best as content available now is mostly by default in this ratio
3) Snapdragon 625 is more than adequate for any task / 636 is a very good upgrade but i want more power efficiency than performance. ie i want it to give more battery life than get performance
4) would love if the max series drops the LCD screen and opt for an AMOLED, more battery man[emoji6]
5) as we are talking about replacing the display also remove the abomination called hybrid sim tray **** hybrid i want 2 sim and a card like the good old days of cell phones not this *****y pile of ****
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agree with all of the above haha although i doubt that 5g networks will be operational anytime soon, especially not in a manner that has sufficient coverage (i.e. outside of capital / major cities).
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No. No sense xD

Thanks to Mi Max 3, I just bought a Max 2 as my secondary device, my main one is HTC U11. Amazing battery life !!

amgreenhawk said:
Mi Max 2 is still new. It's specs are still wonderful.
MM2 custom ROM scene has just matured.
I see no reason to upgrade just yet.
Never understood the urge to upgrade as soon as something new is released, especially when the current one working well.
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Agreed, given that:
1/ Xiaomi has promised to deliver MIUI 10 for total 28 devices (some released back in 2015)
2/ Mi max equipped with Snapdragon 625, which also built in a plentiful of Xiaomi devices in 2017 and also 2018 (Redmi note 4, mi max 2, Redmi note 4X, Redmi 5 plus, Redmi 6 pro (Mi A2 lite), Mi5X (Mi A1), Redmi Y2, redmi 4 prime etc..)
I'm strongly believe that Xiaomi has a very good way of optimizing the Snapdragon 625 and the Max 2 will have the support for years to come.

For the new Mi Max 3, Xiaomi screwed up with the anti-rollback issue and disabling the flashing of Global rom on a Chinese rom phone and vice versa. It can brick if someone does it. There is a workaround posted in the guide section of Max 3 by omer919, but you can't use normal OTA updates anymore. Not sure how long this method will be supported, since it's not a custom-ROM based solution.
Global market (Mi Max 3) phones do NOT come with 6GB/128GB configuration. (At least so far that I know of.)
Big screen, very generous battery and infra-red are the only reason I like the Mi Max series, but the latest Xiaomi policy to prevent using exchanged ROM in the Max 3 puts me off.
So, after all these, are people STILL interested in getting the Max 3?

amgreenhawk said:
For the new Mi Max 3, Xiaomi screwed up with the anti-rollback issue and disabling the flashing of Global rom on a Chinese rom phone and vice versa. It can brick if someone does it. There is a workaround posted in the guide section of Max 3 by omer919, but you can't use normal OTA updates anymore. Not sure how long this method will be supported, since it's not a custom-ROM based solution.
Global market (Mi Max 3) phones do NOT come with 6GB/128GB configuration. (At least so far that I know of.)
Big screen, very generous battery and infra-red are the only reason I like the Mi Max series, but the latest Xiaomi policy to prevent using exchanged ROM in the Max 3 puts me off.
So, after all these, are people STILL interested in getting the Max 3?
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well this sux big time. did some research into this and its understandable why xiaomi is doing it, but also veeery annoying for enthusiast users... one more reason to love the hardware but refrain from flashing MIUI. just update the firmware and run custom AOSP based ROMs aside from that the MM3 is basically the only phone id consider buying, aside maybe from the poco f1...
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greetings
just received my new mi max 3 (64/4 GB chinese version with latest china developer rom) and im thinking of keeping my lovely max 2 guys
build quality is a step back in many way:
feels noticeably heavier and thicker in hand than max 2
power and volume buttons are a little hard to press
screen is bright more than u need+washed out colors = max 2 screen quality is way better for me
its notification LED is a joke! so smaller and poor light and still white color only!not visible and usable at all in days
full screen gestures always has annoying stutter even with more powerful chipset
battery life is a bit shorter than max 2 (overall one hour less SOT for my daily use)
no scratch resistent screen = scratched mine in just one day!
the only thing is about cameras and new chipset .really a huge upgrade in picture quality+video recording with EIS + selfie camera with LED light

What's gonna be your next phone after the Mi Max 2?

The large phone segment is small so there aren't many options for those of us who like these large phone. I personally love large phones like the Max 2 because no notch and I love big screens, big battery, and I don't keep my phone in my pocket (I keep it in my purse ).
The only downside on phones in this segment are software and camera since neither of Google, OnePlus or Nokia make such large phones. But I am currently running the Pixel Experience ROM on the Max 2 which I have been enjoying.
So I am wondering, what's the next phone upgrade folks here are looking forward to or are planning to upgrade to?

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The large phone segment is small so there aren't many options for those of us who like these large phone. I personally love large phones like the Max 2 because no notch and I love big screens, big battery, and I don't keep my phone in my pocket (I keep it in my purse ).
The only downside on phones in this segment are software and camera since neither of Google, OnePlus or Nokia make such large phones. But I am currently running the Pixel Experience ROM on the Max 2 which I have been enjoying.
So I am wondering, what's the next phone upgrade folks here are looking forward to or are planning to upgrade to?
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well ill be sticking to my MM2 for a while, but if i were on the market for a new phone, it would most likely be one of the following:
Mi Max 3 (natural choice as the MM2 successor)
Pocophone F1 (compromise of smaller display and battery but very high end hardware and well supported in the community, total OnePlus 6(T) competitor if u ask me!)
Mate 20 (Pro) (awesome specs and style, but sadly locked bootloader. so just a choice for those who could live without any AOSP custom roms)

I think the biggest potential going forward will be the foldable phones/tablets. Imagine a 5-incher AMOLED unfolded into a 7-plus inch tablet.
The manufacturers will need to get this right.

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I think the biggest potential going forward will be the foldable phones/tablets. Imagine a 5-incher AMOLED unfolded into a 7-plus inch tablet.
The manufacturers will need to get this right.
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ooor, as in the case of the mi max class: a 7 inch phone unfoldable into a 10-12 inch tablet
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Well, if you ask me I will this time buy a last year's (or maybe even two years old flagship device). I really love modding and flaghisps seems to be getting the best of it as most developers get either flaghisps or few mid-range high selling devices. Max series are sepcific device, and even though I like the big screen I think not so many people are interested in it; including: regular people, developers and even Xiaomi People due to releasing incomplete sources Plus, I think that with flagships you are investing even better in the future. You can sell it easier, you get way better hardware and if you don't get time to modd it and actually get to love the device you can keep it for years as hardware has evolved so much and has potential to last for years to come. This is my two cents on this topic
Sooo, my next device, if in 1-2 years it gets enough of developers love (and they most probably will) will be one of these (has to have official bootloader unlocking method):
- Mi Mix 3,
- Mi Mix 2s,
- OnePlus 6T or
- if they get to 6,4+ no notch screens maybe something from Mi 8,9,10 series

Enjoying my Mi Max 3 since I dropped my Mi Max 2 and no one stocks a screen for it. Repairmen look at me like I have 2 heads! ?

Mi Max 2 replacement
First of all, Mi Max 2 is just really awesome. I will use it some more time before replacing with a newer one. But, Here are the mobiles that I might prefer for replacement:
Huawei Mate 20X- My only gripe is the FHD+ display given the price tag. Otherwise, an excellent device.
Honor Note 10
Pocophone F1
Mi Max 3
Honor 8x Max
I would like to know what others think of mate 20xx

SaiTejVejju said:
First of all, Mi Max 2 is just really awesome. I will use it some more time before replacing with a newer one. But, Here are the mobiles that I might prefer for replacement:
Huawei Mate 20X- My only gripe is the FHD+ display given the price tag. Otherwise, an excellent device.
Honor Note 10
Pocophone F1
Mi Max 3
Honor 8x Max
I would like to know what others think of mate 20xx
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mate 20 is really awesome, but as i said before: honor and huawei phones are out of the question now because u cant unlock their bootloader, that means no custom roms ever for those devices!
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Yeah, the Mate 20 X sounds absolutely superb but the bootloader kills it stone dead for me. I'd love a Mi Max Pro with amoled and 845, it would be an instant buy.

I already bought Samsung galaxy note 9 but to tell you the truth I have a hard time letting go of mi max 2. The note 9 screen feels tiny compared to mi max and I keep thinking that maybe I made a mistake in buying the note 9 . Also I found that the mi max 2 combined with the gcam mod of pixel 3 produces better pictures in low light with night mode than note 9. I know that it might sound unrealistic but it is the truth. The one only things that I prefer in note 9 is the qi charging, the USB c to hdmi capability and the better speakers. All in all keep enjoying your mi max 2 and Dont rush into a new smartphone.

Well the mate 20 x can now be bootloader unlocked and rooted so possibly going to be moving there in the next month if nothing else interesting crops up. The Note 10 will probably be great but the screen is too narrow for my liking.

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I already bought Samsung galaxy note 9 but to tell you the truth I have a hard time letting go of mi max 2. The note 9 screen feels tiny compared to mi max and I keep thinking that maybe I made a mistake in buying the note 9 . Also I found that the mi max 2 combined with the gcam mod of pixel 3 produces better pictures in low light with night mode than note 9. I know that it might sound unrealistic but it is the truth. The one only things that I prefer in note 9 is the qi charging, the USB c to hdmi capability and the better speakers. All in all keep enjoying your mi max 2 and Dont rush into a new smartphone.
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Could you please share with us which gcam mod of pixel 3 you're using on you Max2, tks.

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Could you please share with us which gcam mod of pixel 3 you're using on you Max2, tks.
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I installed this rom, which has the google camera app already installed. It is great. It's the only way I could find, in order to use pixel 3 google camera on mi max 2. You will be impressed with the results.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-2/development/rom-lineageos-16-0-t3874986

mi max 4 ?
I have low vision.

probably galaxy note 9

Phone is good at least for the next 2 Jears i guess

FlamingGoat said:
Well the mate 20 x can now be bootloader unlocked and rooted so possibly going to be moving there in the next month if nothing else interesting crops up. The Note 10 will probably be great but the screen is too narrow for my liking.
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Unlock codes ain't free for Huawei.

I am bit worried which phone to get next. There is not any hurry though because this is still working pretty good.
Mi Max 3 has been unable to attract large development community (at least on XDA forums). I am afraid that the same is going to happen to Mi Max 4. Specially after Xiaomi made life of enthusiastists more difficult with recent decisions.
I wouldn't want to have any of those ridiculously small phones that seem to be the only other options.

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I am bit worried which phone to get next. There is not any hurry though because this is still working pretty good.
Mi Max 3 has been unable to attract large development community (at least on XDA forums). I am afraid that the same is going to happen to Mi Max 4. Specially after Xiaomi made life of enthusiastists more difficult with recent decisions.
I wouldn't want to have any of those ridiculously small phones that seem to be the only other options.
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Phone ist good for 2 more years. I stay to it.
But after, no more Huawei, they are not political correct and i do not give my money to them anymore.

Mi Max 3 or 4. I dont think my eyes and hands will want anything smaller. I came from a very small phone (xperia z5 compact) to this very large phone. Just like moving from a mini cooper to a hummer!
Besides the pricing is just right, i dont need all the power of SD 845, nor the picture quality of a Canon.

Mi Mix 3 5G or K20 Pro (9T Pro) or Mi Note 10 (CC9 Pro)

undecided which one to buy what are your suggestion
at least how does the Mi Mix 3 5G compare with the K20 pro
if the Mi note 10 would had snapdragon 855 without thinking i would have got that one

9T Pro for sure, it gets a lot of development while Mi Mix 3 is cool and all but development wise it's getting forgotten very fast and it's kind of heavy.
Mi Note 10 on the other hand seems to have great cameras and should be even better whith Gcam but the speakers are poor and it's got a mid end SOC.
All 3 are good but that's just my opinion.

The K20 Pro is getting treated like it's a flagship by Xiaomi, even though Redmi is supposed to be a second tier brand. Almost everyone on the K20 test group has Android 10 MIUI 11 and they got it before any of the other global devices got MIUI11. That's a real slap in the face when you are walking around with the "flagship" product in your pocket.
I see a LOT of people complaining about the CC9T and problems with the software in the global beta groups. I can't speak to the Mi Note 10 as I haven't had any note products. I have the Mix 3 CN 8/256, and the only other Xiaomi device I have is a Mix 2s (which has a broken cellular modem). I think Xiaomi makes cool hardware, and it's been fun messing with MIUI on a truly working device now for almost two years. However, I would say at this point if you don't need dual sim or something else they bring to the table, the best Android experience is Google Pixel. I have all 3 of the XL models as well, and they are hands down the best. I have really been enjoying carrying a single device with my work and personal SIMs in it, but having to fight with Google Pay and Airwatch for work (I can fix Pay with Magisk, but that deletes my work profile no matter what I do on every reboot), is making me seriously consider going back to a two device setup.