I might have been sloppy with my searching, but I haven't found any threads dedicated to reception issues by Yotaphone 2. Mine constantly loses signal and drops calls even though I'd never had such problems with my previous phones in the same places. I have tried every possible setting (limiting to UMTS, even GSM) to no avail. Reception isn't exactly amazing where I live, but it's definitely good enough to provide stable and reliable service to any average mobile phone. Not with a Yotaphone though.
I also did a side-by-side test using my wife's LG G2 Mini and Network Cell Info Lite. Both phones used the same provider, same base transceiver tower, same sector, channel, every single ID was identical. I took about 50 measurements on both phones in different rooms, out on the street etc. And the Yotaphone had a 10.5 decibels weaker signal on average, which is just insane: 10x less power received by the antenna than the G2 Mini's.
I'm running Lollipop RU 134 on a YD206 (deduced from the 35969 IMEI, despite the About menu saying YD201 due to the firmware). I am aware a better choice would have been CN due to the different bands but during this comparative test I was using a channel that is supported by the RU radio too, so I'm afraid this is an antenna hardware issue which no firmware update would help.
I welcome you to post your own experience with signal reception. I still wonder if this is due to a faulty unit or a more widespread issue. I'd also welcome any solutions you are aware of that have been proven to work.
You have answered your question by yourself. Install CN-Radio.
That's good to hear. One problem though: I just ran yota flasher and saw there was no 5.0 CN release so I'm not entriely sure how to do it. If I flash it with the Hong Kong version (5.0 HK.1.66) will that do the trick too? I'm too novice to perform a radio-only flashing, I know I'd end up bricking my phone.
EDIT: So if I get this right, even old 4.4 CN firmwares have radio that can be paired with a 5.0 RU. My only question is, because I haven't seen this mentioned in the sticky, do I have to do the power+volume down dance when I'm flashing radio only?
This is very helpful for yotaphone beginners:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/yotaphone-one/help/guide-everything-to-yotaphone2-t3547194
I have flashed the CN radio. My baseband version is S01_003_3034_CN1_M05 now.
As it turns out, it didn't help my situation one bit. Signal is as poor as ever, still the same 10 decibels lower than the G2 and sometimes cutting out altogether. The CN radio may have added an LTE band or two but ultimately it's like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. This antenna can barely hold a 3G signal, let alone access 4G where I live. Thanks anyway.
Exactly the same problem with my YD206. I run a Russian rom and the phone shows its YD201, but I know it's YD206. I tried changing the radio from the Russian 1.1.134 rom to CN radio - S01_003_3034_CN1_M05, no improvement, tried S01_003_4240_RU1_M05 radio, still no improvement, will try all the others these days and will post the results. Also GPS reception is terrible, almost unusable.
I have just as good reception with my samsung as my 206, so i guess something is not as it should be with your yota.
From my own experience with a former phone, messing with the radio can cause lasting problems. I got rid of mine om my Motorola by nothing less then leaving it with the battery out for some time and then going straight into download to reinstall the radio before it booted.
Would running the yota dry to perform a similar operation help? I don't know, it could be just your phone having antenna problems or something completely different. But i quess there is no harm in trying.
You could also try flashing HK radio.
if you purchased the aluminium bumper, remove it...
I also have the YD206 and reception is good with my phone, I use the radio from the latest HongKong Lollipop, it's different in size from Russian and China ones, and since my phone came from HongKong I decided to use that one and indeed seemps better. Yyou cand flash only the radio and try yourself, just put your phone in flash mode and with the correct radio folder in the yotaflash installed folder, flash with the following commands:
fastboot flash modem firmware\radio\NON-HLOS.bin(ENTER)
fastboot flash sbl1 firmware\radio\sbl1.mbn(ENTER)
fastboot flash rpm firmware\radio\rpm.mbn(ENTER)
fastboot flash tz firmware\radio\tz.mbn(ENTER)
cvzalez said:
I also have the YD206 and reception is good with my phone, I use the radio from the latest HongKong Lollipop, it's different in size from Russian and China ones, and since my phone came from HongKong I decided to use that one and indeed seemps better
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No it's not different to the Russian one, HK.1.1.66 and RU.1.1.124 have the same radio. I just ran an md5 checksum on both, and all files are dead identical. The only thing worth trying is 4.4.3-S01-003-HK1.0.3.61A which is different both from both the RU and CN radio. If it doesn't work, I'm giving up and accept that I received a defective unit.
I tested 4.4.3 HK radio, no improvement. I'm afraid it's the end of the road, I don't see anything else left to try. Since I don't believe in black magic, I'm not going to bother with running the battery dry before flashing, but if someone does it with success, I'd love to hear about it.
I'm so sad. I love the device, I love the e-ink display, battery life is fine as well. If only it worked as a cell phone... Perhaps I was just unlucky and could order another one which may work but I think I'll just cut my losses here.
paipa said:
I tested 4.4.3 HK radio, no improvement. I'm afraid it's the end of the road, I don't see anything else left to try. Since I don't believe in black magic, I'm not going to bother with running the battery dry before flashing, but if someone does it with success, I'd love to hear about it.
I'm so sad. I love the device, I love the e-ink display, battery life is fine as well. If only it worked as a cell phone... Perhaps I was just unlucky and could order another one which may work but I think I'll just cut my losses here.
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Whats your phone model, where are you using your phone (Country and network) and what type of network? LTE, 3g, GSM?
cvzalez said:
Whats your phone model, where are you using your phone (Country and network) and what type of network? LTE, 3g, GSM?
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YD206, Germany, E-Plus on 3G (LTE is crappy where I live anyway). While E-Plus is the worst provider, this is definitely, 100%, without a shadow of doubt not a provider issue. I've been with E-Plus for several years and none of my phones had any problems whatsoever. As I had written previously, the problem isn't the bands, it's the crappy signal no matter the channel. Repeatedly measured and confirmed to be 10 dB weaker than a 3 year old, low-end G2 Mini.
AFAIK nobody has done signal strength tests on the Yotaphone on this forum. I'd be interested to see if this is an isolated issue or if Yotaphone's antenna does in fact suck. It's not something you think about if service is good around you, but full bars don't mean much on their own, as the range is huge: the bottom end of full bars is 20 dB lower (100x weaker) than a really good -70dBm signal, and 300x weaker than a perfect -65 dBm.
paipa said:
YD206, Germany, E-Plus on 3G (LTE is crappy where I live anyway). While E-Plus is the worst provider, this is definitely, 100%, without a shadow of doubt not a provider issue. I've been with E-Plus for several years and none of my phones had any problems whatsoever. As I had written previously, the problem isn't the bands, it's the crappy signal no matter the channel. Repeatedly measured and confirmed to be 10 dB weaker than a 3 year old, low-end G2 Mini.
AFAIK nobody has done signal strength tests on the Yotaphone on this forum. I'd be interested to see if this is an isolated issue or if Yotaphone's antenna does in fact suck. It's not something you think about if service is good around you, but full bars don't mean much on their own, as the range is huge: the bottom end of full bars is 20 dB lower (100x weaker) than a really good -70dBm signal, and 300x weaker than a perfect -65 dBm.
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Well, I have to test that in real life (moving often), but Lollipop have lot of bugs with radio control, network and Wifi, Marshmallow should not take long to be released officially from Yota, lets hope.
lthaler said:
if you purchased the aluminium bumper, remove it...
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I have same problem as @paipa, tried this, nothing changed, therefore I think aluminum bumpers have nothing to do with it.
64 dBm ... and 23 asu before with HK firmware 4.4 and CN radio
107 dBm ... and 3 asu now with RU firmware 5.0 and RU radio
Celular network type HSPA
queser.info said:
64 dBm ... and 23 asu before with HK firmware 4.4 and CN radio
107 dBm ... and 3 asu now with RU firmware 5.0 and RU radio
Celular network type HSPA
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64 dBm is lot better than 107 dBm for signal, so you should flasg HK/CN radio on your RU firmware 5.0, you can flash the radio only.
check your correct files (HK/CN radio files) location and the location of fastboot command and do as following:
fastboot flash modem firmware\radio\NON-HLOS.bin(ENTER)
fastboot flash sbl1 firmware\radio\sbl1.mbn(ENTER)
fastboot flash rpm firmware\radio\rpm.mbn(ENTER)
fastboot flash tz firmware\radio\tz.mbn(ENTER)
Yes, but after that I will have the proximity sensor problem, I saw someone from forum lose the sensonr, because was allways online :|
YD206 all the same?
queser.info said:
Yes, but after that I will have the proximity sensor problem, I saw someone from forum lose the sensonr, because was allways online :|
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As it seems that's truth, I have wrote this about it:
I discovered that I also have this problem, I was with the wrong radio, had to flash the Chinese radio and it suddenly appeared, this is what I have found I have an YD206, YD201 also seems affected with the same problem after a chat with a Spanish user with original YD201 Russian Lollipop and Russian Radio :
On YD206:
With wrong radio. radio (Russia xx versions) on YD206 , in KitKat or Lollipop ROMs the proximity sensor is OFF by default BUT, as soon you turn ON an app that uses it, it won't turn off again, it keeps blinking even if you force kill the app that started. However it will turn off if the screen is off, after 5 seconds after. Also it's important to acknowledge that 2G only with this radios fails. On Lollipop Wifi won't turn off automatically, just manually.
YD206 With the correct radio. radio S01_003_3034_CN1_M05 2G 3G (UMTS) and 4G (LTE) all work and with better reception, but as soon the screen is ON, the proximity sensor starts working, does not matter what app you have open, when you turn OFF the screen the proximity sensor will turn OFF in about 5 seconds. If you are using the EPD screen the proximity sensor will turn OFF faster than 5 seconds, but as soon you touch the EPD it will turn ON for 3 seconds or so. On Lollipop Wifi won't turn off automatically, just manually.
So the problem acts differently when you flash a different radio, I am not sure where's the bug comes from, but it seems there's also a bug with YotaRom. There's a Xposed module to disable proximity sensor in specific apps, I haven't tried that, I also would like to know how this behaves with the Marshmallow Beta.
(For the ones that are not aware of this problem, keep in mind that to see this problem you need to be on a dark place to see the very faint red light of the proximity sensor.)
Best regards,
This problem is also being discussed here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/yot...tive-t3520013/
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I recently purchased a used XDA in good condition. The seller mentioned it has been flashed with WM2003.
It has a ROM version of 3.04.ee ENG
ROM Date : 06/12/2002
Radio Version M.E1
Protocol version : 324e4
I have not been able to find out if the Radio version is new or extremely old.
I reside in Canada and use FIDO GSM network and I can connect with their GPRS network and surf the net etc etc.
GPRS seems a bit slow where my Sony Ercisson phone can connect to GPRS from the exact same physical location and I can surf on it faster than on the XDA...kindda weird
Also, I notice that my GSM signal strength meter also hovers around 1 or 2 bars....where my Nokia or Ericsson show full signal...again weird
Can anyone shed some light on what I got (software ), and maybe should I upgrade to something better?
Thanks,
guru
If the radio works, regardless of the release number, I would suggest leaving it alone, also the bars for signal are in my opinion not very accurate. Radio stack upgrading is extremely risky, a phone with 2 bars is better than a paperweight/brick.
cruisin-thru said:
If the radio works, regardless of the release number, I would suggest leaving it alone, also the bars for signal are in my opinion not very accurate. Radio stack upgrading is extremely risky, a phone with 2 bars is better than a paperweight/brick.
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Thanks for your response.
I am happy with the unit overall, I would rather have it working than a paper weight.
Too bad this unit isn't designed to acept external hardware thru the SD port.
guru
Here are the files which brought some people's Touch Cruise back to life.
Warning: Don't forget to HardSPL before using these!!!
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This is all the stuff you need:
Murata Radio-ONLY ROM:
http://rapidshare.com/files/141524518/Radio_Murata_PPAS_1.58.21.23.rar
Custom RUU (by udK) to avoid hardreset after flashing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376119
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Optional links for reading if you are interested:
Original shipped ROM by Murata Electronics:
Warning: This ROM will change your language to Russian, if you have only reception problems, use Radio-ONLY ROM above!
http://rapidshare.com/files/141527497/RUU_Polaris_HTC_RUS_1.25.411.1_radio_sign_25.65.30.04_1.58.21.23_polaris_murata_Ship.exe
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if you have 4 bars in 2G mode, then nothing is wrong with your reception level. 3G mode is completely different from 2G mode all together. having 2-3 bars in 3G mode is perfectly normal. 3G coverage is week in general. You have nothing to be concerned about really.
In my situation I was having 1-2 bars in 2G mode and 1-2 bars in 3G mode. (Polaris). Also, in 3G mode signal frequently was degrated to the level where radio would automatically fallback to 2G mode and stay there. We have practicaly entire HTC range at our disposal. Every single HTC phone that has been manufactured Himalaya inclusive. As soon as I have noticed week GSM signal on Polaris, I have checked few others for the same issue, namely:
Kaiser, Wings, Niki, Excalibur, Cavalier, Himalaya, Pharos, Hermes, Trinity, VOX, Herald and few others.
Also, please note: Kaiser, Wings, Niki and Polaris were running indentical radio: stock standard 1.58.21.23. we keep our handsets consistent accross the board as much as we can.
Kaiser, Niki and Wings produced excellent reception quality results with full 3-4 bars in 2G and 3+ bars in 3G mode.(UMTS 2100 and HSDPA).
I have tested on 3 GSM networks in total.
At the same time, Polaris demonstrated very concerning results in both 2G and 3G mode. (see above).
That is why I have decided to further investigate this issue.
After flashing Murata PPAS radio, Polaris receives 3-4 bars in GSM mode indoors, full 4 bars outdoors, 3 bars indoors and 3-4 bars outdoors. This is perfectly in line with other phones based on the same hardware platform: Kaiser, Niki and Wings.
I hope it helps.
P.S. At this stage I come to conclusion that there are Polaris handsets that have issue and others that have not. No matter what radio they being flashed to. This is perfectly possible if manufacturer replaced some electronic chip in newer batches of phones. This is common practice for mass production. Therefore we have conflicting reports in both polls.
bottom line is: if your Polaris has no issues with GSM reception after non-Murta radio upgrade, then it will likely to keep good reception level with any radio.
Murata radio seems to address the issue with support for specific chip only in handset and will not improve reception level for every single Polaris out there.
Please accept my appologies for such a long winded post.
mavvy4ever said:
Hi guys,
I stumbled across this thread... and it seems that there are already a few people who tried to flash the Russian ROM and after that flushing a WWE ROM without radio and they reported that their Polaris was working again after that...
I am currently a little too anxious to try out myself with my Orbit 2 but I thought it would be an idea to point this possible solution in a separate thread and for those who have tried it, please vote so we have a better overview if this is a fix or not...
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I tried the Radio-only first (after I did the HardSPL flash) but I still get only 2 bars 3G signal strength. Only outdoors it's 4 bars and when walking it's changing between 3 and 4 bars. 2G (GSM) is always at 4 bars inside and outside.
After that I flashed the complete Russian ROM but everything stays the same. Also after hardresetting the device. Even after flashing it again and again :|
Now I think I tried every option which I found on this xda forums several times... maybe any1 has another idea?
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No need for apologies well it gives me a better feeling that my Orbit2 is not really that bad, though I remember I had better reception in original state. Currently I'm trying to figure out why TomTom does not get any satellites. I have updated latest data with QuickGPS and chose Built-In GPS...
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took about half an hour to get the initial first gps fix... but from then on, it gets the first fix within 3-5 seconds... nice
its working again
Hi guys, i flashed the radio "Radio_Murata_PPAS_1.58.21.23.rar" and since its back to full strength!
i also lost all my data cuz updating the radio also hard resets ur device;-)good luck folks and dont throw ur polaris away!
Works greaaat ! Thank you so much guys!!
Ok here is my story... I bought a Cruise but the first thing I did was to unlock it (without testing it before!). So when I tried it I thought "what this piece of ****... the reception is so bad!!" but thought it was normal so I was already thinking about selling it on eBay Then I found this forum....
I've just flashed it with Radio_Murata_PPAS_1.58.21.23 and it works like a charm now, so thank you very much!
ps: before finding this post I tried each rom radio I found! thx again!
You guys are great! I flashed the radio only Murata, and it fixed everything.
I'm an US expat working in China. The entire import industry for the Polaris shutdown these few weeks because of this problem. There will be many happy Chinese HTC dealers tomorrow. Wooohooo!
Hearty, hearty thanks!!!!!
superduper said:
if you have 4 bars in 2G mode, then nothing is wrong with your reception level. 3G mode is completely different from 2G mode all together. having 2-3 bars in 3G mode is perfectly normal. 3G coverage is week in general. You have nothing to be concerned about really.
In my situation I was having 1-2 bars in 2G mode and 1-2 bars in 3G mode. (Polaris). Also, in 3G mode signal frequently was degrated to the level where radio would automatically fallback to 2G mode and stay there. We have practicaly entire HTC range at our disposal. Every single HTC phone that has been manufactured Himalaya inclusive. As soon as I have noticed week GSM signal on Polaris, I have checked few others for the same issue, namely:
Kaiser, Wings, Niki, Excalibur, Cavalier, Himalaya, Pharos, Hermes, Trinity, VOX, Herald and few others.
Also, please note: Kaiser, Wings, Niki and Polaris were running indentical radio: stock standard 1.58.21.23. we keep our handsets consistent accross the board as much as we can.
Kaiser, Niki and Wings produced excellent reception quality results with full 3-4 bars in 2G and 3+ bars in 3G mode.(UMTS 2100 and HSDPA).
I have tested on 3 GSM networks in total.
At the same time, Polaris demonstrated very concerning results in both 2G and 3G mode. (see above).
That is why I have decided to further investigate this issue.
After flashing Murata PPAS radio, Polaris receives 3-4 bars in GSM mode indoors, full 4 bars outdoors, 3 bars indoors and 3-4 bars outdoors. This is perfectly in line with other phones based on the same hardware platform: Kaiser, Niki and Wings.
I hope it helps.
P.S. At this stage I come to conclusion that there are Polaris handsets that have issue and others that have not. No matter what radio they being flashed to. This is perfectly possible if manufacturer replaced some electronic chip in newer batches of phones. This is common practice for mass production. Therefore we have conflicting reports in both polls.
bottom line is: if your Polaris has no issues with GSM reception after non-Murta radio upgrade, then it will likely to keep good reception level with any radio.
Murata radio seems to address the issue with support for specific chip only in handset and will not improve reception level for every single Polaris out there.
Please accept my appologies for such a long winded post.
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Yeah I extensively tested my Orbit 2 this weekend. I think I have no more problems now with it. So my vote to my own poll is actually wrong now... should be "... my 3G reception is back to normal and at full strength"
Thanks to everyone involved on Xda Dev!
At home with original rom I had 2 bars, after to Raramomo SFR and 1.64.08.21
still 2/1 bars in 3G, I have tested Murata and always 2/1 bars, so I have decided to keep 1.64.02.21 because I known its battery's drain and I known nothing about Murata.
Thanks a lot for you works
Murata radio is a life saver for wm6.1..awesome full 4 bars reception...highly recemmended for anyone have reception problems after updated their radio ..awesome
Just to clarify on this issue with low reception for some Polaris handsets:
Manufacturer has replaced some micro electronic components in some batches of Polaris.
Stock standard radio 1.58.21.23 and others has no support for those new components and therefore new handsets suffer low reception level issue.
1.58.21.23 radio Murata has support for new components included and maintains backward compatibility to earlier shipped handsets.
this radio will not affect ( improve or otherwise) reception quality for phones in older batches.
P.S. Radio is genuine.
Heyyooooo
Thank you VERY VERY VERY MUCH guys
My Polaris was born again
SecureGSM said:
1.58.21.23 radio Murata has support for new components included and maintains backward compatibility to earlier shipped handsets.
this radio will not affect ( improve or otherwise) reception quality for phones in older batches.
P.S. Radio is genuine.
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So all new radios should be reconstructed from begining with these or similar settings?
harmsuploe said:
You guys are great! I flashed the radio only Murata, and it fixed everything.
I'm an US expat working in China. The entire import industry for the Polaris shutdown these few weeks because of this problem. There will be many happy Chinese HTC dealers tomorrow. Wooohooo!
Hearty, hearty thanks!!!!!
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Great news, but too bad my dealer hadn't heard about it when I picked mine up. Can you please point to where you downloaded that rom and what you used to flash it? I tried the first of the two links above and the RUU is unreadable (??????)...
Thanks.
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Stock standard radio 1.58.21.23 and others has no support for those new components and therefore new handsets suffer low reception level issue.
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My question is, why my (I got it early, I guess I have an old model) Polaris came shipped with 1.58.23.21 where the Murata Radio reads version number 1.58.21.23 which is lower and thus I assume older?
SecureGSM said:
Just to clarify on this issue with low reception for some Polaris handsets:
Manufacturer has replaced some micro electronic components in some batches of Polaris.
Stock standard radio 1.58.21.23 and others has no support for those new components and therefore new handsets suffer low reception level issue.
1.58.21.23 radio Murata has support for new components included and maintains backward compatibility to earlier shipped handsets.
this radio will not affect ( improve or otherwise) reception quality for phones in older batches.
P.S. Radio is genuine.
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I think you are incorrect, I had other radio work on my polaris for little while in 3g before they dont work, I think it is got something to do with mty
Thank you for the great discovery. This Murata thing is working! I wanted to go with this device to the warranty, but i said to give this a shot, because my TC had the same simptoms discribed (only that i tested in GSM, i use 3g only for net).
Where i had signal between 70-80% (2-3 lines) now i have 100% (i use this percentage because i have batterystatus program that tells me in percentage). Where one hour ago my TC didn't discover any signal now it has 70% (2-3 lines).
I tested with dslreports.com/mspeed before and after:
GSM/GPRS: 29kbits before - 40kbits after
3g: 141kbits before - 200kbits after
My device information:
ROM VERSION: 1.25.405.1 WWE
ROM dare: 12/11/07
Radio Version: 1.58.21.23 (it writes the SAME version i had before, no murata no nothing)
Protocol version: 25.65.30.04W
I have to mention one thing: on my box (the box with the htc touch cruise in it), where it has the bar code, it writes Rev. A (from Revision A). I think maybe all devices with revision A will benefit from this radio and other revision not... please specify what it writes on your package.
Thanks again! Now I can say I am sattisfied with my investment (If you look in my posts I baught a s-h htc tytn I with battery drain problems... now is for sale for just 180 Euro in Romania... i can ship it if someone wants it)
thanks you for your help.
I had a bad reception in GSM mode.
I downloaded this rom.
Now in my room my reception is full (after 2-3 lines).
And my touch cruise detect a 3g area (no before this radio rom).
I try in my office this morning (no signal with the original rom).
I'am enjoy and this Rom resolve my problem.
Hello, im also expiriencing same reception problems, but in my system alredy says that i have radio rom 1.58.21.23, the phone never got flashed, can be alredy the murato radio rom ?!
If not, can i try the murato radio rom with the "original" installed rom that came with de device ?
Anyone knows where can i get this current rom i have or maybe back it up if i want to roll it back ?
Some users expirienced some attery drains after flash with murato... what about you guys ?
Regards, Ricardo.
yrsmart said:
Hello, im also expiriencing same reception problems, but in my system alredy says that i have radio rom 1.58.21.23, the phone never got flashed, can be alredy the murato radio rom ?!
If not, can i try the murato radio rom with the "original" installed rom that came with de device ?
Anyone knows where can i get this current rom i have or maybe back it up if i want to roll it back ?
Some users expirienced some attery drains after flash with murato... what about you guys ?
Regards, Ricardo.
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did you buy "second-hand" so it might have been already used with a rom and been restored to "original" state before sold to you?
you can overwrite the rom even if it has the same version number.
i have no battery issues with the murata radio only rom.
I had purchased a second hand o2 xda neo. It had wm 5 on it . I updates it with wm 6.1 roms available here.I find that the gsm reception is very poor inside my home.I dont know whether this happened after the update. In my office it is quite good. Even when I am outside i have no problem. Only in my home the signal is very weak. can this be corrected by some registry tweaks or some software. or is it a hardware problem. and if so can i get it repaired. pls help...
what rom are you using and what radio was recommended for use with it. Sounds like a radio issue to me but plz tell me rom and radio. you can experiment using different radios found on the wiki to see whatworks best.
you can flash different radios without loosing data on the device.
I have tried with 2.19, 2.47, 2.69 roms. but no effect. I am trying today 2.07 let me see if that helps. Does IPL/SPL effect the singnal strength?
mmm it might be just one of those things, in that there is interferance within your house (my house is made from granite so reception is very poor), if recpetion is good elsewhere it is unlikely to be radio.
Is there 3G network there? The quality of service on 3G can be unpredictable at best of times.
Signal is not effected by IPL/SPL to my knowledge.
The results of 2.07.20 radio rom. It shows good signal but i feel that it does not update it when the signal is poor. In my office signal is good. So it showed full strength. I went home. There too it showed full strength. when i did soft rest to clear my doubt the signal was poor as in previous roms. Do you think that the antenna has some problem. Can it be replaced. i find an opening above the mirror( near the camers lens) for car antenna. Can this help? if so how?. 3G network is not available in my country(INDIA)
hey,
i think u might have to accept that the signal is just crap in your house... a bummer i know, but if youve tried various radios and signal is good elsewhere, it cant be the internal ariel.
have u tried flashing another rom, more recent build?
Not sure it will help but you never know... at the end of the day, signal is never constant in any one place.
But friend. The signal is good in other phones. If the signal is crap then it should affect other phones too.
I should have also said that the signal is never constant betwenn too phones in the same place. It depends on antenna hardware and the location of it, like signal is reduced whislt making a call if you place your hand and fingers in the wrong place.
I think it unlikely that is a hardware issue if your signal is fine in other areas. Sorry my friend i dont know what else to suggest having tried radios and roms.
The prophet is getting a little long in the tooth now, so be time for an update?
I'm on the 3 network in Australia and I find my reception is quite poor.
I understand 3's network coverage isn't as amazing as Telstra or Optus, but it is meant to be strong around the CBD, which mine isnt. Other friends on the network using non-htc handsets have perfect reception in places I don't. This leads me to believe it might be my radio. Even when roaming reception will drop out occasionally.
I have Radio-3.22.20.17. Are there any other Australian 3 users here? What radio are you using? How is your reception? Would a 6.35 radio be better? I've searched XDA, Google, etc and couldn't find decent radio information for the Magic, only found some for the Hero.
Thanks,
Anyone able to help?
i don't know much about the radio side of things, but is there anything else that could be affecting your reception?
do you have a cover on your phone?
does reception improve if it's removed?
have you contacted 3 to see if there might be a fault with your phone?
I have a cover, but reception isn't affected with it on or off. I've also had the phone checked and its fine.
I want to test a new radio/rom to see if it improves but I don't want to go back to Android 1.5 and there are no 100% working 2.1 roms, so I'll have to wait.
Are there any threads similar to this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563757
Hi there,
I'm from Australia as well. I used to use the new radio to be able to flash the cursorsense rom and it works great. Inside my office, most of the time I didnt get any reception at all but with the new radio, it did.
i switched back to the old radio to use another rom though. (at that time, rom for the new radio is not that much). at the moment, my mobile phone is roaming
you might want to try the new radio (I believe this takes more space than the old radio as my internal space just disappeared). however be careful with that, i think it's the error in flashing of radio n spl that can cause you to brick your phone.
lagu805 said:
Hi there,
I'm from Australia as well. I used to use the new radio to be able to flash the cursorsense rom and it works great. Inside my office, most of the time I didnt get any reception at all but with the new radio, it did.
i switched back to the old radio to use another rom though. (at that time, rom for the new radio is not that much). at the moment, my mobile phone is roaming
you might want to try the new radio (I believe this takes more space than the old radio as my internal space just disappeared). however be careful with that, i think it's the error in flashing of radio n spl that can cause you to brick your phone.
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I ended up trying CursorSense. I hate Sense UI so I removed it, but I didn't notice any signal difference. I also ran Before and After speedtests numerous times and averaged them and the new radio was slower for me
so sorry to hear that...
well, at least i finally found someone from australia using magic and a member of xda as well..
I've not used my Magic on 3, but I can relate to your signal issues on their network. The only contract phone I ever had was with them and I regretted it, call drops and poor signal no matter where I was, I used to work in the stock exchange building, you'd think a phone would have awesome signal there but I'd be stuck on 1-2 bars Sorry to say it, but I think you can blame 3, not your phone.
Hello Optimus 7 owners,
My Optimus 7 already went in warrancy repair for the infamous "reboot issue" and now the problem is gone but... it seems that data connection is absolutely unstable. I wanted to understand if I'm the only one with this problem or if it's a common one.
The data connection constantly switch from max power H to one bar of G, then 3 bar of 3G, then one bar of H and so on without a rule and many times switching even to the "no signal" icon, then resuming in one second. (if it's unclear I can make a video and post it to youtube)
I'm on Vodafone Italy and it's not an operator signal issue because my wife phone (an old Motorola V3) don't has such strange Behavior, and my old HTC Touch HD worked as expected too!
That behaviour translate to an unstable data connection, many time I see timeouts or long wait time before data start to works in apps that use internet.
The strange thing is that if I speak with phone there seems to have no problem...
I'm alone or someone is in my same boat??? What do you think about this strange Behavior?
Here my versions:
SO version: 7.0.7392.0
Firmware version: 1.0.1.10
Hardware version: 1.0.0.0
Radio sw version: 1.0.1.10
Radio hardware version: 0.3.5.0
Bootloader version: 1.5.0.0
SOC processor version: 0.30.2.0
The phone has it's original firmware, I've never done strange things
Thank you in advance to all kind people that will answer
No one with data connection switching between 3G, H, G and no signal like me? I'm the one in the world with this problem??? I can't believe that...!
I have partly observed that behaviour on my set, I tend to have some signal issues as in always very few bars (say one or two) where others using same carrier have full connection.
Not sure if it's a firmware problem, read something about a pending fix from LG but I can't find the article anymore so it might have been bogus.
This can cause the phone to rapidly switch from 3G to E (Edge) to H at times.
It's not such a big problem for me so I guess I really don't think about it much.
/J
I'm thinking about sending my phone again to repair... :'(
Sent from my LG-E900 using Board Express
This is the same for me as well - i live in a bad signal area anyway which doesnt help but the phone will go from full signal to no signal back to decent signal.
A Dell Streak on the same network has much more stable signal.
Must say it has improved slightly in Mango although not that much
Well..... I don't know if I have the same issue. I work in a large building and I know I have a weak signal inside. So most of the day it stays on G, sometimes E if I just pull it out of my pocket from behind something.
The issue I have is that when I know there is a better connection, it doesn't seem to jump on it. I either have to go into the cellular selection in settings or simply reboot it and it will find, display, and fully use H connection. Which I am more than pleased with the performance.
Trouble is, both the office and the house have weak signals so as long as it's G or 3G I'm happy. The only time I get to H is if I'm traveling around town and get to play with it.
Vodafone Branded on AT&T
Forced Update
OS : 7.10.7220.68
Firmware: 1.0.13.10
Hardware: 1.0.0.0
Radio Software: 1.0.12.10
Radio Hardware: 0.3.5.0
Bootloader 1.5.1.0
Chip SOC 0.30.2.0
I might have a newer firmware version, though in the other chat, I know there are other users with newer ones. I didn't notice the version it came with, so I can't tell if you if updated with the mango push or not
Posted problem to youtube
I've created a video on youtube that shows the problem as it occur. It's written in italian language but I'm sure you'll understand what's happening whitout problems
Please whatch the video and tell me if you have the same/similar issue as I have (switching between 3G and H with very unstable data transfer / stuck)
energywave said:
I've created a video on youtube that shows the problem as it occur. It's written in italian language but I'm sure you'll understand what's happening whitout problems
Please whatch the video and tell me if you have the same/similar issue as I have (switching between 3G and H with very unstable data transfer / stuck)
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This is my first post so I would like to greet the entire XDA community.
I'm facing the same issue (instable 3G connection). With my previous smartphone, a Sony Experia X1 with Win Mobile 6.5 + Manila ROM (thanks XDA!!), 3G connection works like a charm. I think that poor connection performance have as side effect the excessive battery drain (12-16 hr with push email disabled).
My cell infos:
LG E900 Optimus 7 WIND-IT reflashed with VOD-IT ROM (22 sep 2011)
SIM H3G-IT
SO: 7.10.7720.68
Firmware: 1.0.16.10
hardware: 1.0.0.0
sw radio: 1.0.16.10
hw radio: 0.3.5.0
bootloader: 1.5.1.0
I have a similar issue. I live in spain, and it seems that the connection here is an option.
Anyways, like I said, the connection is bad, but many times, the phone switches off the data connection alone for a randoom time. then it comes again.
I used the Word switch off, because, although data connection is off, I can make and recieve calls.
This makes me obviously nervious, because I don't want to call trough phone-line, I want to call through Tango!!!! and chat through whatsapp instead of sms
Can you post system info of your LG Optimus 7?
Particularly OS version, brand and SIM operator. I wonder if it happens when brand of smartphone and SIM are different.
Thanks.
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Can you post system info of your LG Optimus 7?
Particularly OS version, brand and SIM operator. I wonder if it happens when brand of smartphone and SIM are different.
Thanks.
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If you want mine you can read them in my signature. Previously I had TIM-IT ROM with Vodafone IT SIM and I had same problem. Today I have reflashed with Vodafone IT ROM and a Vodafone IT SIM, same problem.
I don't know what to do... I don't believe a LG service can fix the problem.... Or yes? Is anyone that sent device to service for that problem??? Please tell us your story!
This is very noticeable on mine - so much so im using a Wildfire S that holds signal perfectly well in the same place (not as good a phone though). Will try and see if locking it to 3G only will help.
Hopefully LG release a firmware update for this.
Some new considerations. Usually I work in an office with poor 3G signal strength (max 2 bars) where I have instable data connection (and voice calls too). Yesterday I worked all day long in another location with good 3G signal strength (at least 4 bars) and I haven't had any connection problem: email (Exchange and Gmail accounts), IE, Market Place etc. always available.
Now I am at my usual office and once again I have an instable data connection. No reset/restart/switch off/fw update in the last three days.
Is it possible that it is only a "bad reception" issue?
How many bars do you have when instable data connection issue occurs?
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Some new considerations. Usually I work in an office with poor 3G signal strength (max 2 bars) where I have instable data connection (and voice calls too). Yesterday I worked all day long in another location with good 3G signal strength (at least 4 bars) and I haven't had any connection problem: email (Exchange and Gmail accounts), IE, Market Place etc. always available.
Now I am at my usual office and once again I have an instable data connection. No reset/restart/switch off/fw update in the last three days.
Is it possible that it is only a "bad reception" issue?
How many bars do you have when instable data connection issue occurs?
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It's very difficult to tell you how much signal there is at my home (where I've recorded the youtube video) because my LG Optimus 7 is reporting a value from 0 to 5 bars.... Normally it stays at 4 of 5, if I configure not to use 3G it stays to 5 of 5 bars. In My Nokia E65 I've used to compare loading times, the signal is at 100% of the bar.
I really can't understand what's going on with my device... The main thing is that I cannot understand if it's a common device problem or only my device problem. Maybe the second? If that's the case I'll send to repair for the second time my phone (other 3 weeks without phone... ahrg!)
I've the same problems with my LG Optimus 7. My common carrier is E-Plus/base here in germany. Extreme fluctuating signal (switching between 3G, H and E in less than 2 seconds) when starting a "online-app" and it doesn't depend on the location (indoor/outdoor). The Data-Rate is poor and most times i have the "no-signal-sign" in the upper left, but the strange thing is, i can buzz so. without problems...
Looks like a poor programmed signal-display.
no signal
Yes, in fact I noticed too, in these days, that sometimes I'm stuck with "no signal" symbol even if I can ring to my phone... I've also seen the no signal symbol while communicating from internet (yes, wifi was off...) I think the LG driver is very poor, in fact the battery too has the problem that it doesn't update if you don't turn off the device.
I can accept that the signal symbol is not realistic but not that data doesn't come in/out! It's terrible.
I have the issue, I'm from Argentina and I have the same problem, indoor o outdoor it's the same. LG E900H.
I do a Factory reset yesterday and I haven´t this issue anymore. I do it for the battery life, and now I don´t have both issue. May be the unstable connection was the battery problem because the device is looking for signal everytime.
Of course I´m not sure but it´s possible. Good Luck
I have the same issue too.
Try to open MFG app and then select:
7. Engineer Menu
4. Modem settings
2. Band Settings
Select WCDMA Only (GSM only may help also) and reboot phone.
Same here
I'm with Vodafone-it and have the same issue, and even worst: sometimes I loose my connection with Wi-fi, too, at my home, while all other devices continue working.
SO: 7.10.7740.16
Firm: 1.0.16.10
Hw: 1.0.0.0
Radio: 1.0.16.10
Hw radio: 0.3.5.0
Bootloader: 1.5.1.0
Soc: 0.30.2.0
Anyone solved it?