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Unknown Radio Verision M.E1

I recently purchased a used XDA in good condition. The seller mentioned it has been flashed with WM2003.
It has a ROM version of 3.04.ee ENG
ROM Date : 06/12/2002
Radio Version M.E1
Protocol version : 324e4
I have not been able to find out if the Radio version is new or extremely old.
I reside in Canada and use FIDO GSM network and I can connect with their GPRS network and surf the net etc etc.
GPRS seems a bit slow where my Sony Ercisson phone can connect to GPRS from the exact same physical location and I can surf on it faster than on the XDA...kindda weird
Also, I notice that my GSM signal strength meter also hovers around 1 or 2 bars....where my Nokia or Ericsson show full signal...again weird
Can anyone shed some light on what I got (software ), and maybe should I upgrade to something better?
Thanks,
guru

If the radio works, regardless of the release number, I would suggest leaving it alone, also the bars for signal are in my opinion not very accurate. Radio stack upgrading is extremely risky, a phone with 2 bars is better than a paperweight/brick.

cruisin-thru said:
If the radio works, regardless of the release number, I would suggest leaving it alone, also the bars for signal are in my opinion not very accurate. Radio stack upgrading is extremely risky, a phone with 2 bars is better than a paperweight/brick.
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Thanks for your response.
I am happy with the unit overall, I would rather have it working than a paper weight.
Too bad this unit isn't designed to acept external hardware thru the SD port.
guru

Many issues: caused by UMTS

Can someone help me understand if this is a general JJ issue, or a function of the AKU 3.2 Rom Update 1.90.96 (Radio 1.13.00). It's not identified in that thread:
Many of my JJ issues have been solved by turning off UMTS until I need it. My battery improvement is negligible (when measuring mA consumption), but the following used to manifest due to the phone's inability to switch between GSM and UMTS elegantly:
Calls frequently go to v.mail
Dialing results in 'Dialing...' message with no connection - or even worse I connect and other party can hear me even tho I believe it's not connected
Dialing results in 'This operation not allowed' or something like that
Several other issues I forget
All this went away when I turned off UMTS. My understanding is that UMTS and GSM are completely different functions, and the phone sees a UMTS signal and tries to switch to that. Unfortunately it's too weak and the phone does not know to give up and go back to GSM/GPRS. After around 15mins of battling, everything goes tits-up until I reset.
Is this something that everyone with moderate 3G/UMTS coverage experiences? Or is this a ROM/Radio version issue?

I have a very poor UMTS reception in my house and have the same problems. I have tried different radio roms. My current solution is just using GSM at my home and only UMTS at my workplace..

my too...
my case is similar. I had with radio 1.09 and now with 1.13. looks is a problem when you move between zones with umts and other only gprs and the phone gets crazy. I think is related new speed available form umts (1,8 and now 3.2) that are producing special situation in the device.

Thaks guys - more helpful than you know: I was considering a re-flash, and my JJ is SOOO customised I would have written off a week getting it all back into shape. The HSDPA change may also explain why I didn't have this issue with the first JJ in country in January, but am definitely having issues now.

craigiecraigie4 said:
Thaks guys - more helpful than you know: I was considering a re-flash, and my JJ is SOOO customised I would have written off a week getting it all back into shape. The HSDPA change may also explain why I didn't have this issue with the first JJ in country in January, but am definitely having issues now.
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If you reflash only your radio, you wont loose your data..

1.20 Radio Rom takes long time to reregister on network after dropped off?

Hi all,
I'm currently experiencing a problem where my Softbank X01ht drops off the cellular network because I live in a low strength area, and takes forever, if at all, to automatically connect back to the network, even if I move into an area where I know the cellular strength is high.
If I manually turn off the phone portion of the hermes, and reconnect, then it happily detects the cellular network and connects. In other words, after disconnecting, it acts as though there is no network in range at all, even though I know there is.
This seems to have started after I upgraded my radio rom to version 1.20 from 1.07. Prior to the upgrade, I know it connected back to the network quite quickly after it dropped out. Has anyone else experienced this with the 1.20 Radio Rom? I currently have the Imate jasjam rom installed on my phone with the 1.04 bootloader.
Unsure if this is related, but the area that I live in has a weak UMTS network, but a relatively decent GPRS network. I'm thinking the phone is getting confused over which network to connect too.
It also seems that if I'm in an area with a pretty strong cellular strength, it doesn't drop out? Would I benefit from downgrading to the 1.16 Radio Rom?
Thanks in advance all.
Gene

I can also confirm that things added with that after a soft reset sometime it cant detect network..i have to manualy turn off/on the radio part....generelly it occures if i reset the set just after making a call or just getting disconnected from edge...
the previous 2 radio that i used 1.16 and 1.08 didnt suffer from those probs...
but the main benifit of 1.20 radio that i get is EDGE speed i can pump upto 220Kb (22-24 KB) download speed in flat when connected to pc as wireless modem but with the previous radios i can barely go 160Kb and the speed did uped/down regularly...
and somewhat strange with this 1.20 radio i cant search for network list manually when even i go to manual in network after sometime i get cant read error...but previous radios where ok in that par too...
and the last benifeat that i get with 1.20 is now the SIM STK menu is working.....

sajib said:
I can also confirm that things added with that after a soft reset sometime it cant detect network..i have to manualy turn off/on the radio part....generelly it occures if i reset the set just after making a call or just getting disconnected from edge...
the previous 2 radio that i used 1.16 and 1.08 didnt suffer from those probs...
but the main benifit of 1.20 radio that i get is EDGE speed i can pump upto 220Kb (22-24 KB) download speed in flat when connected to pc as wireless modem but with the previous radios i can barely go 160Kb and the speed did uped/down regularly...
and somewhat strange with this 1.20 radio i cant search for network list manually when even i go to manual in network after sometime i get cant read error...but previous radios where ok in that par too...
and the last benifeat that i get with 1.20 is now the SIM STK menu is working.....
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Thanks sajib,
Glad I'm not the only one experiencing it. For me, however, it only occurs when it looses connection to the cellular network. After every soft reset so far, it has connected to the cellular network automatically. To me it doesn't seem to even search for the network. That is, after loosing connection, it is resigned to the fact that it can't connect to a network, so doesn't even try, unless I force it too. I think I have seen it connect automatically once or twice, but either way, it takes at least 10-20 minutes, sometimes it never connects, and I force a manual reconnect by turning off the phone and turning it back on. So is this a known problem with the 1.20 Radio Rom?

Try this...
I had the same problem on my TyTn. Took forever to WiFi connect. Then I found this registry setting:
[HKLM\Comm\TIACXWLN1\Params]
"dot11ShortPreambleInvoked"=dword:00000001
Now my WiFi time-to-connect seems much faster.

software_samurai said:
I had the same problem on my TyTn. Took forever to WiFi connect. Then I found this registry setting:
[HKLM\Comm\TIACXWLN1\Params]
"dot11ShortPreambleInvoked"=dword:00000001
Now my WiFi time-to-connect seems much faster.
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Hi!
Thanks for the advice, but mine isn't a Wifi problem, but a problem with connecting to the cellular network.
Or do you think that your connecting to the WiFi network and the cellular network are one in the same?

i am using the 1.20 radio as well, but cant say that i have had any of the said problems... i have the cingular 8525 and have used the 2 latest cingular roms, the aku2.3 and 2.6.. but i did have some of the same problems with i used cingulars 1.16 radio

shogunmark said:
i am using the 1.20 radio as well, but cant say that i have had any of the said problems... i have the cingular 8525 and have used the 2 latest cingular roms, the aku2.3 and 2.6.. but i did have some of the same problems with i used cingulars 1.16 radio
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Do you commonly get cellular network disconnects? I find that if I'm moving around the city or driving around in the car, the network connection is maintained, and sometimes will automatically find the network if it does get disconnected. However, it is only when I am home that the phone disconnects and doesn't try to reconnect once it has been disconnected.
Any idea of what might have caused this issue with you with the 1.16 Radio Rom? Possibly something to do with the AKU version? I'm using AKU 2.3.
Thanks,
Gene

GeneNZ said:
Do you commonly get cellular network disconnects? I find that if I'm moving around the city or driving around in the car, the network connection is maintained, and sometimes will automatically find the network if it does get disconnected. However, it is only when I am home that the phone disconnects and doesn't try to reconnect once it has been disconnected.
Any idea of what might have caused this issue with you with the 1.16 Radio Rom? Possibly something to do with the AKU version? I'm using AKU 2.3.
Thanks,
Gene
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I too have the original problem but have not upgraded the radio ROM. I have the T-Mobile Vario II (sorry not sure what ROM that is) but often when I move from an area of either very weak or no signal to an area with a signal (coming out of a shielded building) I too get the same problem. Initially the phone shows weak (or even strong) signal strength but when I try to make a call I get the box up on the phone screen telling me it cannot connect. I have found that eventually it will, when left to it's own devices, get itself sorted out and allow a connection. But it is invariably quicker turing off the phone (via comm manager) then back on - this always results in a valid connection.
Perhaps the problem that you describe is not related just to the 1.20 Radio ROM upgrade?

tony.wheeler said:
I too have the original problem but have not upgraded the radio ROM. I have the T-Mobile Vario II (sorry not sure what ROM that is) but often when I move from an area of either very weak or no signal to an area with a signal (coming out of a shielded building) I too get the same problem. Initially the phone shows weak (or even strong) signal strength but when I try to make a call I get the box up on the phone screen telling me it cannot connect. I have found that eventually it will, when left to it's own devices, get itself sorted out and allow a connection. But it is invariably quicker turing off the phone (via comm manager) then back on - this always results in a valid connection.
Perhaps the problem that you describe is not related just to the 1.20 Radio ROM upgrade?
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Hi Tony,
It could possibly be an application or the ROM itself causing the problem, however, I think its the radio rom in my case, simply because this problem only started occuring after I upgraded to the 1.20 Radio Rom. Previously on the 1.07 Radio rom, the phone would connect automatically and immediately. Also I just performed a hard reset after I discovered this problem, and it still seems to be occurring...
I also am sure that after a long while the phone reconnects, I have seen it try reconnect a couple of times. But then again, a couple of times I've left it for 10-30 minutes, and it hasn't reconnected. Unsure of exactly how it chooses to reconnect and when it tries to reconnect. You would think it would try reconnect constantly after a specified period, but in my case it seems very random.

GeneNZ said:
Do you commonly get cellular network disconnects? I find that if I'm moving around the city or driving around in the car, the network connection is maintained, and sometimes will automatically find the network if it does get disconnected. However, it is only when I am home that the phone disconnects and doesn't try to reconnect once it has been disconnected.
Any idea of what might have caused this issue with you with the 1.16 Radio Rom? Possibly something to do with the AKU version? I'm using AKU 2.3.
Thanks,
Gene
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i actually get pretty solid coverage whether moving or stationary. especially at home since i live not a quarter mile from a cingular tower and i dont think its necessarily related to the aku version since i have gotten the same result with either 2.3 or 2.6. But i can say for sure that the cingular 1.16 radio is junk my biggest complaint was gsm calls cutting out and on my calls on 3G had a very weird digitized background noise, kinda sounded like a bad digital echo... 1.20 fixed all of that for me

shogunmark said:
i actually get pretty solid coverage whether moving or stationary. especially at home since i live not a quarter mile from a cingular tower and i dont think its necessarily related to the aku version since i have gotten the same result with either 2.3 or 2.6. But i can say for sure that the cingular 1.16 radio is junk my biggest complaint was gsm calls cutting out and on my calls on 3G had a very weird digitized background noise, kinda sounded like a bad digital echo... 1.20 fixed all of that for me
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When I'm roaming around my connection always seems to be sustained. e.g, I've been checking my phone ever 1hour for about 24 hours, and have yet to see my signal lost. Is it possible that the phone is getting confused over which band to connect to? As I said in my first post, I have a relatively weak 3G/UMTS signal from my home (1-2 bars), and a relatively strong GPRS signal (3-4 bars). Presumably the phone is UMTS-preferred, and uses GPRS as a secondary.
I saying this, even if I go to another area which usually has 5 bars UMTS signal, I haven't seen the phone immediately connect. This was after about 10-15minutes waiting in that area.
Gene

GeneNZ said:
When I'm roaming around my connection always seems to be sustained. e.g, I've been checking my phone ever 1hour for about 24 hours, and have yet to see my signal lost. Is it possible that the phone is getting confused over which band to connect to? As I said in my first post, I have a relatively weak 3G/UMTS signal from my home (1-2 bars), and a relatively strong GPRS signal (3-4 bars). Presumably the phone is UMTS-preferred, and uses GPRS as a secondary.
I saying this, even if I go to another area which usually has 5 bars UMTS signal, I haven't seen the phone immediately connect. This was after about 10-15minutes waiting in that area.
Gene
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yes, the phone is set to prefer the UMTS bands.. have you tried setting the band manually instead of it letting it autosearch? you can do it in the phone settings menu or use the app listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844

Vario II network coverage question

Recently my Vario II intermittenly loses network signals, it says No Network and I have to toggle phone off/on to make it search for signal again. This only happens when I'm at home (Charlton SE7 area).
Rom 1.21.110.3 (19/06/06)
Radio 1.05.05.00
Does anyone have the same problem?

toucam said:
Recently my Vario II intermittenly loses network signals, it says No Network and I have to toggle phone off/on to make it search for signal again. This only happens when I'm at home (Charlton SE7 area).
Rom 1.21.110.3 (19/06/06)
Radio 1.05.05.00
Does anyone have the same problem?
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Flash HardSPL first, then upgrade your radio.
Ive linked to my guides incase your unfamiliar with the process.
The newer radio should possibly increase your GSM efficiency. Are you in a decent area for reception?

mrvanx said:
Flash HardSPL first, then upgrade your radio.
Ive linked to my guides incase your unfamiliar with the process.
The newer radio should possibly increase your GSM efficiency. Are you in a decent area for reception?
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Hi, many thanks for your detailed guides. I've upgraded Radio to 1.38.00.10 but the problem still persists. I'm in a very good coverage area, always get full bars 3G when it works. Soft-reset my phone and now it's searching in vain for network signal, I'm confused

What operator are you with ? Maybe the cell where you live is getting overloaded. We had a problem similiar to this last month when our local base station had a problem. Our work-around was to disable 3G but not using a Hermes . Apparently the handset tries to register using the 'best' data-bearer its configured for. So disabling 3G made it register with GPRS which worked fine. They then fixed the base station and we were able to re-enable 3G. I would
guess Charlton would have a lot of subscribers per cell. You would expect the coverage to be better in a built-up areas but who knows. Maybe an enquiry/ complaint to the operator would at least tell you if they know of a problem and if its temporary or longer term

Cheers for that. I'm with T-Mobile. What's bugging me is that this signal disappearance only happens sometimes. It's not that I don't have 3G (or signal for that matter) at all, I still get full 3G signals fine most of the time. But you probably were right, looks like it's a fault from the operator's cell in the area, I will give them a call next week to see if there's an explanation.

I've noticed this problem when I'm in the south London area (very general I know). People have got around the issue temporarily by forcing the phone to GPRS only

More problems! After upgrading to 1.38 and trying all sort of "good" radios like 1.17, 1.27, 1.34 I can't make/receive calls unless GSM is forced. There must be something wrong within my immediate area because with the same radios everything works flawless just 10 mins down the road. I just called TMob and there's no technical fault or anything from their side. I will just have to put up without 3G until the problem fixes itself

There are lots of people complaining about 3g on T mobile in UK. They seem to have serious issues with Hermes devices and the dropdown to GSM.
I had a problem six months ago with my hermes on orange at home in SW London. For a few weeks it was mucking about - I rang O who advised me that they were experiencing some local issues but would fix them within days. I switched to GSM for a few days. When I switched back its worked fine for last five months.

3G gone mad!
the same thing was happening to me. Full 3G reception in Leicester, tried to connect to get my e-mails and then the signal totally goes. The same thing happens when I make calls as well. Switched to GSM and everything worked. Now in York and everything is working on 3G.
Network is T-Mobile.

This sounds similar to the issues I am having.
Do you get the phone hanging as it attempts to start a call and then after a while a message stating that it was unable to connect?....sometimes resulting in a soft reset to bring the device back online? In my case toggling bluetooth will reset the connection.
I am with T-Mobile in Glasgow but get the same issues during the day in Edinburgh

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aidanbree said:
This sounds similar to the issues I am having.
Do you get the phone hanging as it attempts to start a call and then after a while a message stating that it was unable to connect?....sometimes resulting in a soft reset to bring the device back online? In my case toggling bluetooth will reset the connection.
I am with T-Mobile in Glasgow but get the same issues during the day in Edinburgh
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No mine doesn't say anything, it sounds "ding ding" after a few secs like when you press the hang up button. I can use the Internet but anything to do with calls is just impossible. I've switch to GSM now and everything's back to normal. A bit annoying can't use 3G at home.

Signal problem in PDA2K..

hey guys...this is my first post here...
my pda2k keeps on dropping signals and sometimes halt during a call...
at first.....as instructed..2 time restarting solved the problem..
can you guys plzz help me out.......im using wm6
thnx in advance

What version of Radio do you using ? Try to upgrade to the last version.

my BA info is as follows
ROM version 5.60.00 WWE
radio version 1.12.00
well from where can i get the latest version of radio??

wel..i found it..and i am upgrading radio...
less see what happens

.....upgraded to 1.15.00
....no success......
im not the first one to have this problem..it ws in 2003. 2005 and now in wm 2006 now....
dunno what to do.....dont wanna throw away my pda2k

Maybe it is an hardware problem?

If your problem is in WM2003, WM5 and WM6, just get the phone to a repair or a recycle center....

but the thing is ..it was working fine....
and after installing a resh rom...it works for like 2 days with no problem...
im sure that its not hardware issue....
its the same problem....which everyone esle is having in this forum..abt signal dropping...dun think tat this harware problem can come to lot ov ppl at the same time...

the problem is with the phone company...
my pda2k also gives me similar problems...
but when i'm travelling to some other countries and using a local sim card there... i do not see any such problem... even while roaming sometimes... i do not see any problem with the current sim card.
i think it is the home service provider which has the problem.

If you have signal dropping, replace the flex cable.
The flex cable signal dropping is a common problem to any slide phone.
In fact I slide the phone halfway to test the signal if it will drop or not.
No signal drop means good flex cable.
Same case with Nokias and other phones.
I've had my friend's BA flex cable replaced and signal drop is solved.

also, one old battery can do that issue.
with my older battery, it used to cut connections sometimes. with the new one, keep connection.

hmm...but the thing is...that this fone was working fine in my country i.e Pakistan..but its giving problem here in canada.......and it actually came from canada before....
i dont know what to do....there were also issues like that with my imate-Pocket pc before...and now same is with PDA2k...
i have chaged a lot of sims...but no success.......

I personally believe that there is a bug on the radio dll.
If you are using WM2003, try this workaround to see if it helps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340557
In your case, activate only the 1.900Mhz band or the 850 / 1900 band only. I believe that the former is better, though.
I've been only using it for the last 2 days, but so far so good.
JP

Well same problem here in Bulgaria. We have 3 Telecoms. Unfortunately i have subscription to one of them and some times like every couple of months I have the same problem. Green light blinking, but when someone is calling me - out of service. It rings, but after i pick up - it drops the call and gives "No service" This last for about a day or so. When i switch sim cards to another service provider - it works fine. The same thing happens when I travel from one town to another. I thing this is due to poor software configuration in the GSM towers. Overall for three years this happens to me like 10-15 times for couple of hours to one day. And I have this problem only with one provider only. No work around as far as i know.. Sorry

signal problem partially solved.
JPBRA said:
I personally believe that there is a bug on the radio dll.
If you are using WM2003, try this workaround to see if it helps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340557
In your case, activate only the 1.900Mhz band or the 850 / 1900 band only. I believe that the former is better, though.
I've been only using it for the last 2 days, but so far so good.
JP
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Guys,
Definitely the problem is software. I'm from Brazil and my operator is TIM. I tried many ROMs (at least 10) with the same symptom: if the phone misses the signal, I get into troubles to find the signal again and it keeps finding another operator instead TIM (in my case it only finds Vivo - which is 850Mhz).
After those many trials, I found a ROM that solves the problem partially. It's the PV DVH 19701 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390008&highlight=19701 )
With this ROM, it still looses the signal when on a place where the signal is not present and don't find while returning to a place which the signal is present, BUT, I just tap the antenna on the top of the screen, tap settings > network and finally tap "find network" and VOILA, the signal is back without much pain!!
One more thing is a little change on the registry according to a recommendation from Microsoft. Using one registry editor, go to:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Phone and change the value for "Features" parameter from 204c7d8 to 206c7d8. Remember that before you change, you need to choose the view mode to hexadecimal.
That's it folks...have fun!