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Hi everyone, I've been planning on buying the Moto X play pretty soon, got some questions though that may or may not change my mind.
How is the development relationship with Motorola in general in terms of sources releasing and bootloader unlocking?
Any kernel/device sources they have released for the Moto X Play?
I've seen CM12 on the device but is it the official branch? Also are there any features lost? (for example the camera quality seems to degrade on some phones with different roms)
Thanks.
(if this is on the wrong forum section please correct me)
Not sure the first 2 questions, maybe a dev can answer those but I can say the the version of CM12.1 developed by Squid2 is unofficial however he plans on turning his CM13 branch into the official branch for Moto X play. This is usually how its done anyways. Someone starts building and maintaining an unofficial branch and then moves to building and maintaining the official branch.
What is your budget
fingerprinted said:
What is your budget
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Around the price of this phone and in my opinion it's also the best phone but i'm curious about it's development status before i get one and potentially develop for it too.
TommyDN said:
Hi everyone, I've been planning on buying the Moto X play pretty soon, got some questions though that may or may not change my mind.
How is the development relationship with Motorola in general in terms of sources releasing and bootloader unlocking?
Any kernel/device sources they have released for the Moto X Play?
I've seen CM12 on the device but is it the official branch? Also are there any features lost? (for example the camera quality seems to degrade on some phones with different roms)
Thanks.
(if this is on the wrong forum section please correct me)
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Motorola was a bit slower to release source code than I'd like (they took a month after release), but that's not too bad. This phone is not difficult to develop for. My CM12.1 port is solid, everything works and the camera quality is excellent. My CM13 port is a WIP and is buggier, but it'll get there in time.
Performance wise, this phone sits somewhere between the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. The animations and some operations on the Motorola 5.1 stock ROM are not quite as smooth as I'd like, though it's not terrible either. On my recent CM12.1 builds performance is significantly better than the stock ROM, and CM13 is buttery smooth. Rumour is that the Motorola 6.0 stock ROM whose soak test appears to have started is significantly smoother than the 5.1 stock ROM, If you plan on tinkering with your phone, I'd say don't worry about performance, it's fine with custom ROMs and Motorola may be improving the stock ROM too.
As for the value proposition, I'd say it's toughest competitor would be the OnePlus X. Comparing the two devices (I don't have a OnePlus X, but I have 2014 Moto X that's similar in many ways), I'd say:
Moto X Play advantages:
- Bigger battery
- Better camera
- Bigger screen (if you like big screens)
OnePlus X advantages:
- Faster processor
- More hand and pocket friendly size
- Lower price
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Motorola was a bit slower to release source code than I'd like (they took a month after release), but that's not too bad. This phone is not difficult to develop for. My CM12.1 port is solid, everything works and the camera quality is excellent. My CM13 port is a WIP and is buggier, but it'll get there in time.
Performance wise, this phone sits somewhere between the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. The animations and some operations on the Motorola 5.1 stock ROM are not quite as smooth as I'd like, though it's not terrible either. On my recent CM12.1 builds performance is significantly better than the stock ROM, and CM13 is buttery smooth. Rumour is that the Motorola 6.0 stock ROM whose soak test appears to have started is significantly smoother than the 5.1 stock ROM, If you plan on tinkering with your phone, I'd say don't worry about performance, it's fine with custom ROMs and Motorola may be improving the stock ROM too.
As for the value proposition, I'd say it's toughest competitor would be the OnePlus X. Comparing the two devices (I don't have a OnePlus X, but I have 2014 Moto X that's similar in many ways), I'd say:
Moto X Play advantages:
- Bigger battery
- Better camera
- Bigger screen (if you like big screens)
OnePlus X advantages:
- Faster processor
- More hand and pocket friendly size
- Lower price
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Thanks for all the information! I'm pretty convinced this phone will be the better for me as i'd rather have "In-country warranty" just in case. And coming from a snapdragon 400 phone it can only get better for me i guess.
squid2 said:
Motorola was a bit slower to release source code than I'd like (they took a month after release), but that's not too bad. This phone is not difficult to develop for. My CM12.1 port is solid, everything works and the camera quality is excellent. My CM13 port is a WIP and is buggier, but it'll get there in time.
Performance wise, this phone sits somewhere between the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. The animations and some operations on the Motorola 5.1 stock ROM are not quite as smooth as I'd like, though it's not terrible either. On my recent CM12.1 builds performance is significantly better than the stock ROM, and CM13 is buttery smooth. Rumour is that the Motorola 6.0 stock ROM whose soak test appears to have started is significantly smoother than the 5.1 stock ROM, If you plan on tinkering with your phone, I'd say don't worry about performance, it's fine with custom ROMs and Motorola may be improving the stock ROM too.
As for the value proposition, I'd say it's toughest competitor would be the OnePlus X. Comparing the two devices (I don't have a OnePlus X, but I have 2014 Moto X that's similar in many ways), I'd say:
Moto X Play advantages:
- Bigger battery
- Better camera
- Bigger screen (if you like big screens)
OnePlus X advantages:
- Faster processor
- More hand and pocket friendly size
- Lower price
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May I add something? I think another competitor would be the Wileyfox Storm.
- Native Cyanogenmod support.
- Around 70 euro's cheaper.
- A slightly smaller battery.
- Same processor.
- Same size screen.
In fact I was ready to buy that device but I went for a X Play because of the bigger battery and your rom. Your work on Cyanogenmod convinced me to to buy this device.
Thanks again guys, waiting on the christmas sale now so i can get some discount.
Just one thing that I might be worried about, been reading some people that broke the glass on their phones in situations where it should have not.. Were they just an unlucky bunch of people or is it something i should worry about?
This phone is overpriced in my opinion
TommyDN said:
Thanks again guys, waiting on the christmas sale now so i can get some discount.
Just one thing that I might be worried about, been reading some people that broke the glass on their phones in situations where it should have not.. Were they just an unlucky bunch of people or is it something i should worry about?
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Just because some mxp users broke their screen doesn't mean it's fragile, no one knows how they handle their devices. Its all up to how you care for your phone. With some discount, it's the best phone in its category. Go ahead.
I'm sick to the back teeth of my Galaxy S7 Edge.
My battery life has taken a nosedive in the last year, and I hate the 'edge' screen which is more of a nuisance than anything. Performance isn't anything to write home about either, considering the hardware inside it - it lags and jitters occasionally (although it is generally quite fast).
Every time I get a Samsung phone I end up wanting to go back to a vanilla Android one. And I don't want to root this S7E because unlocking the bootloader trips a firmware fuse, permanently breaking your ability to use Android Pay and voiding the warranty,. I wouldn't care if I was keeping the phone but I want to sell it.
So the reason I'm in this forum is to find out whether the Le Pro 3 is going to be a good fit for me. The hardware specs I am happy with. But I need to know if stock Android ROMs are fully 100% stable & able to be used as a daily driver? I've looked at a few of the ROMs in the dev forum and they all seem to mention IR not working and 4K recording not working. If that's all that's wrong then I could live with that. I am well past the stage of wanting to flash my phone every week, I want to 'set and forget'.
So if you could give me your honest opinion of the phone itself with an AOSP ROM that you use and any drawbacks, then I would really appreciate it.
4k is working now. TBH even the leeco's EUI isnt half bad once you flash one of the debloated rom's that you can find on here, and is incredibly smooth/and battery efficient.
Regarding nougat, from my own exp., it's been my daily for a month now. I find it extremely stable, havent had a single crash, suddenr reboot or whataoever. My personal favouritr is Omni, smooth as can be, but have tried Lineage and RR, no complaints there either. I use my phone all the time, charge it over night, and get regularly over 10h SOT thnx to @darkobas, some kernel tweaks, and leeco of course for jamming in 4000mah of battery lol.
I have Lex720 3-4 months, never find single issue with this phone. Roms, I flashed many of them, atm i am on stock 6.0 TARS 23S by Steve Mars I like this one everything works good, good battery life.
But I don't use my phone a lot, no game, everyday I got over 50% juice left can use it for another day. It's comparable to Oneplus3/3t for performance, battery life maybe better. If you don't care about headphone jack it's as good as any phone I think and it's 300$, can't beat it.
Best phone at its price you can get!
Great hardware specs, jack isnt even needed tbh you can get cdla earphones and everything will be good. Especially with dolby+viper you will be amazed.
Only con i find is camera at low light conditions (day light its fine) but thats fixable if leeco updates the software regarding img processing and i believe we will se improvements with EUI Nougat. Also no OIS but it has EIS.
Regarding rom, tora 23s,debloated 20s and now miui that is been worked on by also tora and turbo are great roms.
I dont like CM roms but as far as i have seen in postsk omni rom is great.
Seriously the phone is a beast and if we give it a little more time all roms will be finalized.
Point is, are you going to buy it with the launch of mi6 plus? If i were you i would wait to see the full specs and price.
I am using latest stock 21s with root and underclock. Performance good and battery life is also insane.
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Best phone at its price you can get!
Great hardware specs, jack isnt even needed tbh you can get cdla earphones and everything will be good. Especially with dolby+viper you will be amazed.
Only con i find is camera at low light conditions (day light its fine) but thats fixable if leeco updates the software regarding img processing and i believe we will se improvements with EUI Nougat. Also no OIS but it has EIS.
Regarding rom, tora 23s,debloated 20s and now miui that is been worked on by also tora and turbo are great roms.
I dont like CM roms but as far as i have seen in postsk omni rom is great.
Seriously the phone is a beast and if we give it a little more time all roms will be finalized.
Point is, are you going to buy it with the launch of mi6 plus? If i were you i would wait to see the full specs and price.
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What he said. Also, I use the provided USB-C to 3.5 adapter with my sony earphones, the sound is excellent!
I bought the Lepro after 3 years of Nexus 5 ownership, and while I adore that thing to death and though it was going to be near impossible for me to find a phone who I'd find a worthy replacement, it was riddled with battery issues/wakelocks and crap from day 1. The lepro just blew me away, and still does.
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4k is working now. TBH even the leeco's EUI isnt half bad once you flash one of the debloated rom's that you can find on here, and is incredibly smooth/and battery efficient.
Regarding nougat, from my own exp., it's been my daily for a month now. I find it extremely stable, havent had a single crash, suddenr reboot or whataoever. My personal favouritr is Omni, smooth as can be, but have tried Lineage and RR, no complaints there either. I use my phone all the time, charge it over night, and get regularly over 10h SOT thnx to @darkobas, some kernel tweaks, and leeco of course for jamming in 4000mah of battery lol.
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What tweaks did you do?
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What tweaks did you do?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/advanced-interactive-governor-tweaks-t3476589
OP3T ones work on our phone, same SOC. I used them as a basis to make my own two scripts that I toggle via a QS tile
I've had this phone for a while and everything is great except the camera quality, you will see a huge difference compared to S7 Edge.
Phone is running very stable with LineageOS 13, i use it as my daily driver and i don't have any problems so far.
Not interested in Xiaomi phones. I did consider the Mi5+ (i think) before i got my S7E but when i read about the hoops you have to jump thru to unlock the bootloader then i lost all interest.
testreaper said:
Best phone at its price you can get!
Great hardware specs, jack isnt even needed tbh you can get cdla earphones and everything will be good. Especially with dolby+viper you will be amazed.
Only con i find is camera at low light conditions (day light its fine) but thats fixable if leeco updates the software regarding img processing and i believe we will se improvements with EUI Nougat. Also no OIS but it has EIS.
Regarding rom, tora 23s,debloated 20s and now miui that is been worked on by also tora and turbo are great roms.
I dont like CM roms but as far as i have seen in postsk omni rom is great.
Seriously the phone is a beast and if we give it a little more time all roms will be finalized.
Point is, are you going to buy it with the launch of mi6 plus? If i were you i would wait to see the full specs and price.
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I've read all the replies and I'm still on the fence. Mainly because I'm one of those people who doesn't like buying a phone unless it's brand new, ie right at the start of its life-cycle!
I held off to see what the Le Max 3 would be like when it was announced, but I assume no Snapdragon processor = no dev interest and no ROMs.
You guys are knowledgable about Chinese phones - what else is coming out soon? I would wait for the OnePlus 5, but I've read that they're going with an edge screen (that I'm desperate to get away from). I like the idea of a Snapdragon 835 and 6GB RAM though.
Is there anything else on the horizon that I should be considering?
if you dont need a phone right now then you can wait a couple of months, the axon should be announced soon, also the honor pro 8 is already out
If u want support and great specs just go for mi6, period. The only phones i would buy would be either huawei or xiaomi from chinese brands. Leeco was the only exception because at that time nothing compared to its specs plus i am not a heavy-camera user so it was just the phone i needed.
If i were you right now i woudlnt go for it to be honest. Just my personal thoughts though.
Edit; If i was given again the opportunity to buy out of all 821sd phones i would still go LP3. I am not dissapointed at all. But right now i dont think its worth it with the launch of 835. Although the diffence is not great its better to have the latest phone.
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If u want support and great specs just go for mi6, period. The only phones i would buy would be either huawei or xiaomi from chinese brands. Leeco was the only exception because at that time nothing compared to its specs plus i am not a heavy-camera user so it was just the phone i needed.
If i were you right now i woudlnt go for it to be honest. Just my personal thoughts though.
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For Xiaomi phones no development, for me right now the best buy is Oneplus 3t
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I'm sick to the back teeth of my Galaxy S7 Edge.
My battery life has taken a nosedive in the last year, and I hate the 'edge' screen which is more of a nuisance than anything. Performance isn't anything to write home about either, considering the hardware inside it - it lags and jitters occasionally (although it is generally quite fast).
Every time I get a Samsung phone I end up wanting to go back to a vanilla Android one. And I don't want to root this S7E because unlocking the bootloader trips a firmware fuse, permanently breaking your ability to use Android Pay and voiding the warranty,. I wouldn't care if I was keeping the phone but I want to sell it.
So the reason I'm in this forum is to find out whether the Le Pro 3 is going to be a good fit for me. The hardware specs I am happy with. But I need to know if stock Android ROMs are fully 100% stable & able to be used as a daily driver? I've looked at a few of the ROMs in the dev forum and they all seem to mention IR not working and 4K recording not working. If that's all that's wrong then I could live with that. I am well past the stage of wanting to flash my phone every week, I want to 'set and forget'.
So if you could give me your honest opinion of the phone itself with an AOSP ROM that you use and any drawbacks, then I would really appreciate it.
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I hope I'm not late to this thread. Please do not buy this phone. There is no UNBRICKING support for this device whatsoever.
Please look around in this matter. There are about 5 threads of sudden deaths of this phone on Leeco.re, 3 more threads of sudden death of this device on leeco official forum where they will make u a bouncing ball and about 4 or 5 bricked threads over here on xda. This device is highly unreliable and shady after-sale support.
Until you live in a country where leeco officially retails (like india, HK, china) please refrain from buying this phone. I really hope you do not end up into a trashcan like I did when I bought Le Pro 3 without my ground work. I loved the phone until it lasted.
Your best bet is to get One Plus 3T which despite its expensiveness, has extended AOSP support and genuinely amazing community so far.
Well, it seems we have passed the cellular industry's magical 2 year mark and moved into year 3 of it's life, seeing as it was first released into the market July 28, 2015, with rave reviews and high hopes of Marshmallow and the then unknown "Android 7"... And the device has held up well and proven it's worth.
But now that we have passed the mythical 2 year mark, it is likely dead to Moto... the chances of seeing Nougat, or even a future security update, are near zero seeing as there is are G4 and G5 devices out there, not to mention a slew of other newer devices from Lenovo's Moto(rola) or whatever it is now.
I am not going to continue to bash Motonovo, it does nothing constructive... But let's discuss 2 years later...
How has your device held up? Are you still using it as a daily device? Is it still stock? How long will you continue to use it? etc...
For me, my Moto G 2015 2/16 model made a solid year long run as my daily driver, or should I say daily flyer, since it probably made 100+ airplane trips too? I ordered it via Moto Maker within a week of release, and ran stock for a while, rooted stock, then several custom ROM's, before being moved back to stock when it was relegated to the "spare drawer" next to the Nexus 5 (which is still new and has all it's original screen and edge covers still attached, but that's a different story) a little less than year ago, late August if I recall correctly, when I picked up a Moto X Pure edition on a Best Buy Deal of the Day for $250, which overall has been a decent device but not without it's own problems and a learning curve to deal with the battery life.
The G has been used off and on since then as a solid spare device, taking the place of a Huawei Ascend Mate 2 that took dive to the concrete while my son saved a couple paychecks to get an Axon 7 Mini, when a Sammy that had to get repaired, it served a few weeks on the road when my Moto X decided not be nice to me during weekend flashing stints (it's now back to locked and stock BTW), and the few occasions when I just wanted something smaller and easier on battery (the MXPE is a battery hog). I am currently on the lookout for something new, with far better battery life, but in no hurry. So as of now the Moto G sits there, waiting to be used, and occasionally fired up to assist an XDA or other forum user with a question, but otherwise it likely won't see any long term use by members of this household. Happy birthday and thanks for your faithful service, trusty friend.
Well I got mine on December 07, 2015. Its 1 year 7 months 22 days old as of today. The battery is struggling a little to keep up now, especially when I am using Resurrection Remix with a custom kernel.
I unlocked the bootloader and flashed the CM 12.1 snapshot build right after reaching home (I was so eager, I forgot to backup the stock ROM; it was after the 'swipe to wipe' step when the realization stuck me)
Ran CM nightly builds for a while, using CyanDelta to update, then switched to BLISS. The experience was very good, it was (and still is) one of the best ROMs I've used.
But when the maintainer left, I went on and flashed AICP 12.1. Used it for the whole 2 1/2 -4th quarter of 2016 (marshmallow period). Many times have I tried to switch to RR, but couldn't as I liked QS tile pages and RR had them removed and replaced with the AOSP one.
Finally, with the arrival of Resurrection Remix Nougat builds, I found a new daily driver ROM. And to this day, I am continuing to use it (will most likely use it on my future devices too).
The journey so far was very good, and my phone has tolerated me very well. The headphone jack had become loose last year, and now doesn't work entirely. I have a (bad) habit of washing my phone everytime I get back home, and now the headphone jack pins have developed a green coating from oxidation of copper after a few full submersions without cleanup of the jack [emoji14] . The charger port is loose too, it charges slow, the battery % gets lowered if I use it while plugged in. I am planning to replace these two ports along with the battery when I give it to another family member, however the phone is still usable in it's current condition.
I was aiming for Moto G5 plus. However it doesn't have a compass sensor (except the US variant) which I need (for star chart like apps). So maybe Moto G5S Plus can be my next device, except for the 5.5 rumoured screen (I prefer 5-5.2 range). All I hope is that the G5 line gets the same love that G3 has got.
I wonder why many of the people who worked on multiple Moto G devices upto G3 doesn't appear in G4 & G5 forums? The G5 has gotten a decent community support, but the G4 family seems to lag behind. Just curious
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Wow. Can't believe this phone is out for 2 years now.
I don't remember exactly but I think I got it somewhere between 20 to 25 August 2015. I still remember unboxing this great phone. I dropped it in the very first hour of use. Fortunately, nothing happened. The device has held up really well since I dropped it many more times in the following months. No problems faced until now as far hardware is concerned.
As far the software side goes, I stayed on stock for a fair amount of time. I rooted my phone after it recieved the MM update. I rooted it and installed CM13 on March 13, 2016. After that I continued using CM until I came across Resurrection Remix. And after that I kept swinging back and forth between these two ROMs. I knew about XDA and read the respective threads of the ROMs every day but I hadn't signed up to XDA. I signed up on XDA somewhere in September 2016 I guess. I returned back to stock for a while in November since everyone was focused on Nougat ROMs and they weren't all that stable then. Once Nougat ROMs were stable enough, I flashed CM14 and RR N, and again kept switching between them.
Then came the demise of CyanogenMod and rise of LineageOS. I tried a couple of Lineage ROMs but chose to stick with RR as my daily. But it was short-lived since I started using Dirty Unicorns. And since May 2017, I just keep trying new ROMs as they come out and stick with one I like. Right now, I'm on AOSIP, and I have no idea which ROM I'm gonna be trying in few weeks time. It's fun.
The phone held its own after all these days.
It was a great pleasure owning this device even if Motorola had abandoned it.
I bought mine from Amazon on December 22 2015 as a Christmas gift to myself. This phone has served me well through the year and 7 months, although the battery is starting to show signs of age. It's not holding a charge too well any more.
I started off running stock and managed that for about 4 months before unlocking the bootloader and rooting. I mostly ran rooted stock until recently. I have tried the cm and lineage builds, but found the battery life to be subpar. I'm currently running Pure Nexus with Magisk for root access.
I have found the Moto G3 to be a great device. It has done everything I have needed and then some. It will soon be retired to the old smartphone drawer where it will keep my Galaxy S2, HTC One V, and Optimus V company. I'm looking to replace it with the G5 Plus within the couple weeks. Hope to see some of you over on that forum.
(By the way, the other old phones listed are still in working condition, and still almost like new condition.)
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The G has been there w/me since January 2016, was really blown away by its performance (coming from a Galaxy S4 which was bought in 2014).
For the entire 1st year, I ran completely stock. When I heard of it not getting official Nougat, then got unlocked, rooted and LineageOS! It's still a daily driver for me, everything works just perfectly!
I did went stock in between for a few weeks, but I was adorned to Nougat, so got back to LineageOS again in May, and boy, it works like a charm!
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I've mine since a year and a half ago. It blown me away at the very start but after few months the battery started to show that it wasn't as good as the OG G I had. Flashed LOS just to find out the camera didn't work and went back to stock within a day. Right now I'm struggling deciding to flash either Lineage or Resurrection, I have no idea which one should I install but I'm sure I will install the Moto Camera if the stock rom camera doesn't work.
Planning on getting the G5 plus and keep this one as a backup and music player for my bedroom. I'm really liking the results of SoT I see on the internet about the G5 plus and given my normal usage I'm sure I can easily surpass the 6 hours everyone is getting.
Well, personally I dont expect Motorola upgrades beyond Android 6.0 because this phone has accomplished two years. Also we have the fifth generation, the moto C, the moto E4 plus
I´m using unofficial Lineage Os 14.1 and/or Resurrection Remix 5.8.3 with excellent results (rooted and bootloader unlocked). Long life to moto g the third (the last good moto g generation developed by Google).
G4 and current generations are made by Lenovo so i dont have interest on them.
I have purchased this device 2 year's ago.. & still using it as my daily driver with no screen protector or case.. for the first whole year it was on purely stock with no root.. as after nought released i have first flashed Unofficial Cynogenmod by Alberto.. as it was have some bugs so i switched to AOSP extended... after that i have used almost every available Roms on my G3.. & now finally sticked to Official LineageOs 14.1 builds..
& Yes will be using this as my daily driver until it gots some major issues.. till now i didn't got any major issues with my device & really happy with this device... But yes i don't like Lenomoto service regarding to software updates.. anyway's enjoy your G3 & developers please support this device as long as possible...
It really had been 2 years atleast for my device it will be just a week later.
Honestly I got this device after my 10th board exams and this was and is my first device.
I unlocked bootloader the very next day and rooted it.
I tried few roms but went back to the stock for better battery life.
I dont have any case or screen protector till now, I tried few but I didnt liked the overall feel of the device.
During early days BrokenOS was my fav rom, I kept hoping between RR and crdroid too.
Now 2 years have passed and I havent seen stock for many months.
The device is holding up pretty strong, and I plan to use this device for another year.
With battery replacement I wouldnt have any problem using the device further.
And headphone jack also doesnt works, but I have bluetooth headsets though.
Currently I am running latest RR with some further modifications as my perfect setup.
Mine is almost two! bought on September 2015.
Except for 2 little scratches on two edges the phone is still perfect.
The phone is locked and on stock and that's why battery is still perfect.
I'm very happy with the phone and I think the real pity is no upgrade to N.
For sure the device can work very well on MM but Lenovo should have upgraded it at least one time as stated.
I bought one g4 play for my wife and she's very happy too.
Now it's time for 5th gen motog even if I'm impressed also with moto e4: many good featured for a very cheap phone
I got mine in 5 Dec,2015 via flipkart....
i still remember how i searched google phone under 12000 to 15000...and saw results of micromax,lumia and other phones....then one of my college friend who used moto g1 suggested me to buy this......so one fine evening the device came.........
I was skeptical at first about the phones look on the website.......but when i unpacked the box ,i loved its design,its unique hold......
mine was lollipop at first with moto globe boot animation,within a period of 3 or 4 months (i cant remember correctly) the mm update came........as Per GB data cost was very high in india at that time,and i cant afford a wifi..........i went to my college(which has some wifi hotspots) and sat 2 hours for the update.....when the device booted up on marshmallow i wished to see some dramatic change.......but everything was same the bootanimation changed and the settings icon rotates to give system ui tuner.............
i loved my mobile a lot that days.......its camera app was good.......captures quick photos........it is the first mobile for me for capturing selfies.........also i even remerber about a bet with my friends when i said that my moto is water resistant.......they hardly believed it...........so i put my mobile inside a jug for 10 mins and nothing happened............
things changed when google released pixel..........i was blown away with the ok google functionality that time( now its a different story though).....so i searched web,came to know about xda.........rooted my mobile..........installed xposed and android nify............
i was very sure that motorola will release nought then..........but it didnot happened.........so i went for a custom rom........it was unofficial lineage os at first..........then resurrection remix.........i used rr for a month..........then i switched to aosp extended............and finally i settled to unofficial aospa .............
it was a great journey.........though my charging port is damaged........i will change it as soon as possible.........the other parts of the mobile are good........battery backup is nearly 4 hours for moderate use with wifi..........
Now i want some change.........though i recommend motorola to everyone,i will go for oneplus or pixel for my next device........one reason for that is paranoid android team working with that devices,and their rom is amazingly smooth...........the other will be the software update........moto is still good today to give updates but not upto the mark.........i am not at all offended for moto not giving nought,(there are soo many aosp & caf alternatives at xda.)..i am annoyed beacause moto has broke the promise...........
i see a great future for upcoming moto devices..........they have courage and out of the box thinking.......they are the only company that relying on modularity,at the same time they did not fear to ditch the headphone jack........i really wish moto would provide a good battery and nice camera on their phones.....
once a moto fanboy will always be a moto fanboy.......long live motorola.........
hello moto........good afternoon
I bought my phone 1 year and 1 month ago for half of the price with six months warranty.I am using it as my daily driver and its wonderful not because of company but because of devs. I'm on tesla rom with firekernel. All i was disappointed of company not providing ota update of nougat and lesser battery capacity.But i can easily brag of its water resistance.Cause i'm not worried when it rains.It's been beautiful daily with my darling daily.Also i'm going to use it one more year
I bought mine in April last year. Was very proud of buying it, over the likes of Xiaomi and others expecting two years software update.
Among my friends, my was the only to run Marshmallow. Everyone was quite excited when I received the Marshmallow update, many were quite impressed.
Finally a bad day came along. The phone slipped from my hands. The screen shattered with a part of glass breaking into very fine cracks, so fine that it is difficult to read any text through that part of the screen.
Then received the message that this phone will never be upgraded to Nougat. I immediately took to flashing CM 14.1 nightly (no Lineage OS in the beginning of December last year). Then I have flashed a number of ROMs. Currently in RR build.
As of now the usb port has been a bit damaged. It can only be used to charge the device and not connect to PC. The phone might have grown "old" but I will continue to use it for a long time. I also think that the excellent developer support this phone gets will also bring Android O to this device.
hey guys, Im looking to buy this phone (8GB+1GB ver.) and i wanna know, can i use SD as internal storage with 6.0? Because im aware many companies block this feature from their phones.
PS. Do you recomend me this semi new or a visibly used LG G2 (not only cause of the damaged case, but for that common dead tough problem)
I bought mine around Diwali festival 2015, I upgraded from Micromax A60. I jumped from Android 2.1 to 5.1.1, that was like a rebirth for me. Ran full stock for one year warranty period then rooted and installed some roms to experiment with. Came to know new security updates being released so flashed the factory firmware, then the news of CM to Lineage os conversion came, i was eagerly tracking their Jenkins for first osprey build.
Still using this tough boy and still waiting for something that can replace this, had high expectations from one plus five but now the search is still on.
I obtained my XT1540 back in December 2015. Although rooted, I have remained with stock ROM, kernel, and recovery. No regrets as I was very happy with the G3 performance, especially as compared to those $700 Samsung and Apple devices. But I have no idea what my next replacement will be. I would like to stay with a preforming budget model like the G3 that is easy to root.
I used mine on stock 6.0 for a year, and then on LineageOS. If they were to come out with N for the G3, I would not use it - LinOS works too well. Unless I break it I expect that I will use it as daily driver for another year. Nice phone!
I bought XT1540 about a year ago. I just recently unlocked the bootloader and flashed TWRP. I flashed the Tesla ROM and it was good except video playback didn't work (it played the audio but not the video.) Today I flashed LineageOS 14..1 and loaded the Google Pixel launcher. For my use (phone, text, web browsing), it will be fine for as long as the battery holds out. Although my wife's new Moto G5+ is pretty darn nice!
Mine is from July 12th of last year and boy it was such a great year! I LOVE this phone!!! Never had a phone which can hold up to the latest and greatest for so long. I'm getting instant updates to the latest versions of Android (via LineageOS) and all the cool ROMs soon or later get ported to the osprey. Like Paranoid Android - it's now available and it even is updated to 7.2.3!
The battery was some disappointment when I got the phone. It didn't make it through half of my day. I don't know whether it was the stock ROM fault or I just expected too much as a battery life, but now on Lineage OS, RessurectionRemix and MIUI 8 the battery life is pretty great!
I'm going to keep my osprey. At least for one more year! I love it!
I ordered mine on 29th & received it on 30th July 2015.
Replaced the device with a new one a day later as the original one's power button felt a but flush compared to my OG Moto G. Turns out it was pretty much by design. It has been my primary driver since then.
I really appreciate its camera (in daylight) & the well deserved IPX7 rating. It must have survived more than a dozen falls of varying heights, including a couple of 'throws' while trying to do 'chop-chop' for flashlight .
Now that I have gotten so used to it, esp. the IPX7 part, which neither G4 nor G5 has, I am going keep this one running as long as I can.
I finally bought a case & a tempered glass protector around 4 months back to make sure it lasts a bit more, externally, at least.
Still running stock as pretty much every custom ROM for osprey I have tried since last CM 11 snapshot has felt very half-cooked. Stock ROM has slowed down & battery life has dropped as well, unfortunately. Patiently waiting for lost101's Identity Crisis ROM for osprey. Fingers crossed
Hi, I'm planning to buy a Moto G5 Plus from Newegg/Newegg's ebay
I need confirmation if this version of the phone's bootloader is Unlockable(https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875209505)
Thanks
Yes it is able to have the bootlocker unlocked.
Still have not found a really justified reason to do mine, seems to break way more things reading this forum, and oreo update due next 3 months.
For the price found this to be a great phone as is, only mod is nova launcher.
I would agree... Unlocking the Bootloader, rooting, and custom ROMs have much less value and more drawbacks than it used to, and every incremented version of Android just proves to reinforce that more and more.
My thoughts exactly after having unlocked my bootloader at a reflex. There is no ROM's that are even close to stock, especially camera wise. If we get official Lineage OS, the unlock is justified for me. But that seems uncertain at this time. Moto g has always been supported by CM & LOS, so there is no reason we should not get official support.
I had a similar thinking until about a week ago. I had had this phone for about 6 to 7 months before it started getting unbearably laggy. It was starting to feel and run like the $200 phone it is. But I bought this phone with the unlockable bootloader as a contingency.
Just as stock Android has improved to the point of almost not needing to root/mod, the rooting and modding process itself has seemingly become far more accessible to the average bloke with the cross platform Electron app.
The battery life is incredible on 14.1 compared to the stock Nougat...not to mention quicker security updates from what I understand. Even this 'unofficial' lineage is leagues better in my humble opinion.
So while it may be hard to justify there are some decent advantages in my mind. It took me half a year to do it though, which is crazy considering I was addicted to rooting my OG Droid way back in the day.
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roscoe2041 said:
I had a similar thinking until about a week ago. I had had this phone for about 6 to 7 months before it started getting unbearably laggy. It was starting to feel and run like the $200 phone it is. But I bought this phone with the unlockable bootloader as a contingency.
Just as stock Android has improved to the point of almost not needing to root/mod, the rooting and modding process itself has seemingly become far more accessible to the average bloke with the cross platform Electron app.
The battery life is incredible on 14.1 compared to the stock Nougat...not to mention quicker security updates from what I understand. Even this 'unofficial' lineage is leagues better in my humble opinion.
So while it may be hard to justify there are some decent advantages in my mind. It took me half a year to do it though, which is crazy considering I was addicted to rooting my OG Droid way back in the day.
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No offense, but I'm curious if a cache wipe or factory reset would have righted the world with your phones battery anyway... Custom ROMs tend not to do as well in battery in unlocked/retail Moto devices when compared to stock. Moto can improve in a lot of areas, but they sure as heck know how to optimize a kernel and rom.
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No offense, but I'm curious if a cache wipe or factory reset would have righted the world with your phones battery anyway... Custom ROMs tend not to do as well in battery in unlocked/retail Moto devices when compared to stock. Moto can improve in a lot of areas, but they sure as heck know how to optimize a kernel and rom.
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I'm not too sure. You could be right, I bet a factory reset would have worked well to fix my unendurable lag. I use my phone for productivity, no games etc so I'm baffled as to how it got clogged down so quickly. The storage space wasn't an issue, either. Regardless the battery life doesn't seem to have suffered as a result of the switch to 14.1. In fact, it seems better than when I bought it off the shelf. Mileage may vary of course, but it seems like the pros barely outweigh the cons to me. I also have the 2gb RAM variant for what it's worth and it now feels way zippier than a $200 phone should be. That's not to say it didn't feel zippy off the shelf. The stock rom is mighty nice and stable so it's kind of fixing something that's not really broken.
I also am eager to move on to Oreo. It is frustrating that Moto's stock almost-vanilla Android takes so long to update.
I would always unlock and root. I could care less about custom ROMs, but being able to load apps like AdAway, Greenify, Viper4Android, Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, etc and being able to remove bloatware are two major reasons why I would root even if I didn't plan on using custom ROMs.
Hi everyone
So I recently installed Viper Osprey v6.3 Official on my Moto G3 and I noticed right away that something was wrong. First of all, the device heats up quite a lot, even when doing apparently nothing, and the battery drains very fast, very unusual for my cell, since it lasted two days on the stock rom, and a comparable amount of time with pixie OS. I uninstalled pretty much all the apps and yet the problem remains. It doesn't seem to help a lot, if at all, if I put it on battery save mode.
But what had me worried is when I downloaded an app, Boinc, for distributed computing. The app refused to start because it complained that there already was another distributed computing process already running on the phone. That's when I thought that there could be a miner on this rom, this explains how it eats up the battery in a few hours by doing absolutely nothing, with no other apps except Gapps installed. It also explains how the whole system is extremely sluggish, to the point of being unusable.
By the way, the whole mining thing is widespread now and trivial to implement, there have been instances such as an unofficial version of PopcornTIme, and also miners running on javaScript code of some websites, usually streaming sites or torrent search sites.
So with this post I want to do two things: first warn you about this possibile issue, and second to ask you if somebody experienced a similar situation.
Not tried that Rom but after trying a few I've now got Android PIE on my G3(Osprey 2015) made by the lineage guys.
Absolutely awesome!!!
http://www.droidthunder.com/android-9-0-pie-on-moto-g3/
Our device, the Moto G3, is now almost 4 years old.
The Snapdragon 410 is not that powerful to run Android Pie with ease, no matter how light the system is.
I've tried all Pie ROMS, but none of them can keep up to the speed of Lineage OS 14.1,which is my daily driver now..
Fact is, Pie is too heavy for the processor to run, and therefore it struggles and eats a hell of battery
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Our device, the Moto G3, is now almost 4 years old.
The Snapdragon 410 is not that powerful to run Android Pie with ease, no matter how light the system is.
I've tried all Pie ROMS, but none of them can keep up to the speed of Lineage OS 14.1,which is my daily driver now..
Fact is, Pie is too heavy for the processor to run, and therefore it struggles and eats a hell of battery
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I agree wholeheartedly. While Pie is revolutionary in terms of artificial intelligence machine learning, it seems to consume a great deal of the device's hardware resources -- CPU, GPU, RAM, and of course battery power. Originally, Android Pie was tailored to use less resources than its predecessors Oreo and Nougat, by using the Adaptive Battery. This feature learns which apps you use most and then prioritizes battery for them. Combined with the Wind Down feature, Adaptive Battery was predicted to set a new precedent in terms of battery life on mobile devices. On my xt1548, I am unable to see much of a difference, if any at all. Luckily, like Oreo Go Edition -- a stripped down, lightweight and performance minded version of Android 8.1.0 Oreo intended for devices with low hardware specs -- Android Pie Go Edition is now an alternative to devices like the Moto G3. Our 1GB RAM, 1.2GHz max CPU clock threshold, and 2350 mAh battery can make for a sluggish, always needing charged smartphone when running a resource-demanding ROM. I'm currently porting Android Pie Go Edition to the Moto G3 xt1548, which I believe wlll work on other Moto G3 variants. I am also porting the stripped down Pie for the Moto E 2015 (Surnia), which also runs on msm8916 chipset. I am very anxious to see if Pie Go Edition runs smoothly on these low-end devices.