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[Q] Any real benefit in rooting your xoom???

Hey guys I'm just wondering if there is a real benefit to rooting at this point. I'm really pro rooting your devices but I want to see a real benefit to it too.
Am I missing something but as of now I cant really find a real motive to Root my xoom considering also that I will have to do a factory reset and revert to unrooted unlock stock for the LTE upgrade.
Can anyone that has rooted his Xoom give me their feedback on their experience and benefits they found by rooting?
And yes, I know the 1.5 GHz overclock but is that enough?...
Thanks.

Of course, you can play Donkey Kong on it

yankele said:
Hey guys I'm just wondering if there is a real benefit to rooting at this point. I'm really pro rooting your devices but I want to see a real benefit to it too.
Am I missing something but as of now I cant really find a real motive to Root my xoom considering also that I will have to do a factory reset and revert to unrooted unlock stock for the LTE upgrade.
Can anyone that has rooted his Xoom give me their feedback on their experience and benefits they found by rooting?
And yes, I know the 1.5 GHz overclock but is that enough?...
Thanks.
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Motorola has said you do NOT need to unroot your device if you want the 4G upgrade. They said they will still install the modem and try to install the software needed. If the software doesn't work, they will still ship it back to you, but now you have to figure out how get the software to work.
In all likelihood, if you're just rooting so you can install some basic apps. You won't have an issue, but if for some reason you're flashing to different roms, then yes you would have to take a little time to either revert back to stock, or get it back and figure out how to install the modem software yourself.

if your asking this question then must not have done enough research or you shouldnt even bother attempting to root

I have done a lot of research and every day go to xoom android development to keep up to date with whats happening but I wanted to ask people who rooted already what are their experience with it.
As of now there is no custom ROM but there is a kernel and a few boot screens but and the overcloking but I from the outside IDK what are people experiencing on a rooted xoom that makes a lot of difference from my non rooted one.
And I may not have a lot of posts in the forums but even tho I'm no expert I'm not a complete stranger to rooting.

If you are so talented in rooting, you should already be aware of the benefits. If what you see in the development section isn't enough to satisfy you then simply don't do it.
Rooting opens doors to custom system-level themes, custom ROMs, root required apps, custom kernels, and so forth. Obviously you know this much and half of it isn't available on the Xoom at the time. It may just not be worth it.

Eclair~ said:
If you are so talented in rooting, you should already be aware of the benefits. If what you see in the development section isn't enough to satisfy you then simply don't do it.
Rooting opens doors to custom system-level themes, custom ROMs, root required apps, custom kernels, and so forth. Obviously you know this much and half of it isn't available on the Xoom at the time. It may just not be worth it.
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^^^ Exactly what i was trying to imply well put ^^^

Eclair~ said:
If you are so talented in rooting, you should already be aware of the benefits. If what you see in the development section isn't enough to satisfy you then simply don't do it.
Rooting opens doors to custom system-level themes, custom ROMs, root required apps, custom kernels, and so forth. Obviously you know this much and half of it isn't available on the Xoom at the time. It may just not be worth it.
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He didn't say that he was a pro "at" rooting devices, rather he was pro rooting devices (ie. He's generally in support of the idea).
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I'm no rooting expert, or anything close to that title.
Thanks for your response, and yes, I agree with you about the fact that many of the features that we enjoyed in our phones being rooted are still not working for HC.
That's why I was asking if there is anything that I will like and that I'm missing at this point being that I enjoy other devs work but I'm not able to develop on my own.
Anyways I think maybe rooting may not be for me at this point, but I'm really looking forward for something worth rooting my $800 toy!
Thanks

gigglebox said:
He didn't say that he was a pro "at" rooting devices, rather he was pro rooting devices (ie. He's generally in support of the idea).
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That is correct, I missed that part in my previous response.
Thank you!

I finally rooted my evo to freely tether my xoom! But no, I havent seen a compelling reason to root the xoom yet, with so many expected critical software updates coming in the future (4g, flash, sd card) I'll personally wait a bit until at least the sd card update is pushed (fingers crossed)

hi_its_ryan said:
But no, I havent seen a compelling reason to root the xoom yet, with so many expected critical software updates coming in the future (4g, flash, sd card) I'll personally wait a bit until at least the sd card update is pushed (fingers crossed)
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This is my exact feelings. I'm waiting for the Xoom to become the device it's supposed to be before I get too into tinkering with it. Eventually I will go the rooting route, but not quite yet.

That is what I needed to hear, from normal people like me that had rooted already.
I guess if would have a data plan with vzw it would make more sense to root now but since I don't, and there is not a custom rom and I'll have to revert to stock if I want the software update when I send my xoom for the LTE upgrade, I'm not gonna be rooting yet all tho I'm dying to root, or maybe I'll root just for the fun of it because anyways I flash a new rom almost every week or twice a week so the reverting to stock may not be any harder to do.
I'll see....
Thanks for your feedback guys!
Sent from my HTC EVO running MYN's WARM Z using the XDA app.

hi_its_ryan said:
I finally rooted my evo to freely tether my xoom! But no, I havent seen a compelling reason to root the xoom yet, with so many expected critical software updates coming in the future (4g, flash, sd card) I'll personally wait a bit until at least the sd card update is pushed (fingers crossed)
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You're still able to get those updates even while being rooted. You won't however, once you choose to install a custom rom on it... made possible by rooting.

Can someone just help the Guy/Girl?
come on now. It seems like everyother thread has someone saying "If you know so much blah blah" We all know he doesn't know, which is the point of his thread. To Learn.
You don't need to come in here and try to insult him/her and tell em that if they don't know they don't need to bother rooting, etc.
If you have rooted, What have you done with your device that would make a knowledgeable end user want to root? Thats all he wants to know.
I wish I could help, but this Xoom is my first android device.
I am looking forward to rooting for my first time, and playing with everything, but personally I am just going to wait till after the LTE upgrade just to save myself a headache.
Maybe someone could help me with this question. Since after rooting/flashing ROMs might cause Moto's software for the 4g Radio to work improperly, does that mean if I wait till after the LTE upgrade, rooting/flashing might cause the Radio to not work?
Or is it somehow, once the software is on there, changing the ROMs and Permissions won't affect the Radio?

yankele said:
That is what I needed to hear, from normal people like me that had rooted already.
I guess if would have a data plan with vzw it would make more sense to root now but since I don't, and there is not a custom rom and I'll have to revert to stock if I want the software update when I send my xoom for the LTE upgrade, I'm not gonna be rooting yet all tho I'm dying to root, or maybe I'll root just for the fun of it because anyways I flash a new rom almost every week or twice a week so the reverting to stock may not be any harder to do.
I'll see....
Thanks for your feedback guys!
Sent from my HTC EVO running MYN's WARM Z using the XDA app.
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Did you not read the third post of this thread? It doesn't matter if you root the device or not, You'll get the 4G update. However if you're running a custom rom, they might not be able to install the software for the modem, in which case, you need to do it yourself. If you keep the stock rom and stay rooted, I doubt you would have any problems.

The third post in no way answers his question. Nor do the posts to "research." Don't be a ****, either answer the question or ignore it. The question is a reasonable one and posted in general.
In my opinion right now there is not a need to root right now unless:
-you want to deploy a custom Tom
-you want to overclock
-you want to customize the default rom. .. I.e. remove default applications such as the games, replace system files for turning purposes, etc...
-you want to run an application that requires root.
Until you have a desire or need that requires root there is no need to root the device. If you do root though Motorola seems (as stated in post 3) willing to upgrade the device at a minimum. So fear of ineligibility for the upgrade should not be a deterrent to upgrading.
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JayBeezy802 said:
Did you not read the third post of this thread? It doesn't matter if you root the device or not, You'll get the 4G update. However if you're running a custom rom, they might not be able to install the software for the modem, in which case, you need to do it yourself. If you keep the stock rom and stay rooted, I doubt you would have any problems.
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I did read it but if you read my post I'm acknowledging that my device will get the LTE upgrade no matter what, but I don't want to take the risk to not be able to get the software upgrade just because they see my xoom is unlocked and rooted.
If you read the Motorola moderator in that forum he says more or less that if you are rooted pretty much don't get the software... and you know they could use any kind of excuses to not do it.
But still I might root just for the fun of it and going back to stock just to ne safe and not have to look for the freacking thing myself.
Sent from my HTC EVO running MYN's WARM Z using the XDA app.

yankele said:
Hey guys I'm just wondering if there is a real benefit to rooting at this point. I'm really pro rooting your devices but I want to see a real benefit to it too.
Am I missing something but as of now I cant really find a real motive to Root my xoom considering also that I will have to do a factory reset and revert to unrooted unlock stock for the LTE upgrade.
Can anyone that has rooted his Xoom give me their feedback on their experience and benefits they found by rooting?
And yes, I know the 1.5 GHz overclock but is that enough?...
Thanks.
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My main motive is nothing more than having the capability of defying the machine/syztem

I rooted and OC'd with both BidDogs and Koush's kernels.
I had reboot issues with both (not complaining here). Had it OC'd for about 4 days, tried BD update this morning and still did the reboot thing (sometimes several times an hour). MOST peoples OC seems to be wokring well.
Other then that, while rooted I didn't really do much other then poke around as su in the file system.
This morning i flashed back using the SFB file. I will try to root it again and OC if my xoom remains solid for the next day...maybe i did one of the steps wrong somewhere.
So to finally answer your question, I had a awsome time rooting/OC'ing and learned quite a bit doing so!

Debating on Rooting the S4

Im a pure n00b. I'm About to buy my first droid phone. Im very knowledgeable about iphones and the jailbreak world but I'm not sure what would be the benefit of rooting a droid phone. I've heard the droid community is pretty wide open without rooting.
What would be some benefits of rooting a phone like the samsung galaxy s4? I did see that it will allow you to tweak bluetooth to connect a ps3 controller to it wirelessly for emulators but is it anything else that XDA could share to help push me in that direction? any cool features?
Thanks in advance.

I'd say the biggest benefit from rooting is getting rid of that crap that both Samsung and AT&T put on the S4

First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
Pretty much still running the stock rom on mine, but used root to flash a mod that allows free wifi tethering and hot spot, and an extended power menu.
Flashing roms is also a big reason most people root phones. You can pick and choose what you want(touchwiz roms or aosp) and find one you like.
I wouldnt want an android phone without rooting it.
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I mainly rooted for faux's kernel which removed the launcher lag and the messaging lag that occurs sometimes. I also rooted to removed all the bloatware.

Biggest reasons to root, for me personally, are custom roms, custom kernels, debloating, backing up and restoring apps, theming, overclocking, and undervolting. These are just my reasons personally. There are literally hundreds of other things you can do as a root user that you couldnt do otherwise.
The worst case scenario of rooting being, if you really dont find the benefit for yourself personally, its pretty easy to revert back to stock unrooted. These samsung phones now are basically unbrickable and flashing is really easy, especially if youve went through jailbreaking an iphone... lol rooting a samsung device is way easier imo.
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I root for the deep-level backup capabilities, custom kernels that improve speed and battery life, Pie Control (makes navigating & using a large phone much easier), custom ROMs, mods like Hot Spot and custom themes, and deeper level security apps (firewall, find your phone, etc).

Here are the main reasons while people usually root. In no particular order.
1. Ad blocking
2. Remove unwanted apps "bloatware"
3. Custom ROMs/ advanced custom theming
4. Custom kernels and features such as nandroid backups and under/over clocking etc.
5. Tethering/free hot spot
6. Aosp ROMs
Ultimately think of rooting as taking complete control of your device. You can do pretty much anything depending on your knowledge after you are rooted.
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thanks
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.

wotandsdwys said:
First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
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I was thinking the same thing..lol

How much space are you guys saving when you root and get rid of all the bloatware? How much available space is on your phone before all of your additional aps?

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djv3n0m said:
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.
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There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.

jejb said:
There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.
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You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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GiantJay said:
You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't.
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You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.

GiantJay said:
You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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Exactly what I was going to say! Sextape always came thru on the e4gt as well. The next update would always be out before the official release. So glad to see him have stuff for the s4 as well.
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jejb said:
You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.
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This is generally the case with OTA's, but every year it seems like rooting becomes more straight forwsrd, especially for Samsung. As for MDL it was a specific attribute added by Samsung to tighten up control on deeper root access that broke root, but it was hardly a locked bootloader or anything that severe. Re-rooting was as simple as loading a kernel and then Odining. At this point, most manufacturers are beginning to understand the benefits of the development community. Now if we can just get the carriers to "get it."
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To put it very simple I root my phone to be free and to have my phone the way I wanted it not the way a company wants me to have it
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Once you root your phone and learn all the possibilities that come along with it, you won't go back haha It's a lot of fun after knowing your stuff. reading in this forum is probably one of, if not, the best thing/s you can do

Rooting for a purpose, then unrooting

So, I've been at this Android thing for a very long time, and had unofficially retired from the XDA world when I bought a GS7 because I never thought rooting would even be possible. Well, now that I've rooted the phone and experimented with a custom ROM, I've come up with a question I don't know that I've ever had or read before.
I'm struggling with whether or not to stay in the rooted universe because I had come to take advantage of Samsung Pay quite often, and I didn't realize the battery difference would be what it is.
I want my phone rooted for two primary reasons, 1) to hack the provisioning so that I can use the native hotspot feature without needing a special app like FoxFi, and 2) to be able to remove all the crapware these phones come with.
So.. Theoretically here..... Shouldn't it be possible to root my phone, remove the crap, hack the provisioning, and then unroot the phone, revert back to the stock kernel, get my battery life back, and use Samsung Pay again? I never did load Samsung Pay on this phone since I've rooted it.
I saw psouza's unrooting guide but if I recall it was a destructive process..... I'd like to see if there's a way to root, set things up, then unroot and restore the phone to a state that maintains the hotspot hack and makes Samsung Pay happy.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/help/magisk-t3462583/post68962510
I had the same question. Apparently if you alter the system the stock boot image/kernal will not boot.
You will get a verity error.

bart77 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/help/magisk-t3462583/post68962510
I had the same question. Apparently if you alter the system the stock boot image/kernal will not boot.
You will get a verity error.
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well poo....I wonder....since the S7 is still relatively new to hacking....I wonder if someone can figure out a workaround that would allow for tampering first, and a successful unrooting afterward. Or maybe this is a Android-wide problem...I've never really thought about this particular approach before....I've always just been always rooted, or never rooted.
I also have this hope that someone will figure out how to spoof whatever is necessary in order for Samsung Pay to still work.
I am using stang5.0liter's ROM and the only slight issue is the battery.......phone runs smoothly for me.....if Samsung Pay worked on this ROM I wouldn't even care about my initial question here.

spearoid said:
well poo....I wonder....since the S7 is still relatively new to hacking....I wonder if someone can figure out a workaround that would allow for tampering first, and a successful unrooting afterward. Or maybe this is a Android-wide problem...I've never really thought about this particular approach before....I've always just been always rooted, or never rooted.
I also have this hope that someone will figure out how to spoof whatever is necessary in order for Samsung Pay to still work.
I am using stang5.0liter's ROM and the only slight issue is the battery.......phone runs smoothly for me.....if Samsung Pay worked on this ROM I wouldn't even care about my initial question here.
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It will not work. The original kernel for the device checks system verity. This is a part of locked boot loaders and android M+. If one bit of information is changed the original kernel will not boot. The reason we can root with the engineer kernel is it does not do this. Due to being in a "custom" status and non original kernel Samsung pay will not work nor will it ever work with this root method.

You have ruined my life with this response

So, why is the performance so bad on the engineering kernal?

spearoid said:
You have ruined my life with this response
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Just the messenger lol. But honestly I can live without root. If I desperately needed root I wouldn't have bought a Samsung device as they are not the best for it. If you NEED root next time look more towards Nexus Phones, now Pixel and WAY over priced imo. Or research which phones have good root with an unlockable BL. For that I would stray from VZW branded devices and buy an unlocked version from the manufacturer that is compatible with VZW
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So, why is the performance so bad on the engineering kernal?
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It was used for internal testing for Samsung. This was an early version of the first kernel they had for the S7, I believe and correct me if I am wrong anyone. It was fine tuned and then released but the engineering kernel was left in the dust.

Illogi.xbone said:
Just the messenger lol. But honestly I can live without root. If I desperately needed root I wouldn't have bought a Samsung device as they are not the best for it. If you NEED root next time look more towards Nexus Phones, now Pixel and WAY over priced imo. Or research which phones have good root with an unlockable BL. For that I would stray from VZW branded devices and buy an unlocked version from the manufacturer that is compatible with VZW
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I don't need to have root. I bought this phone fully expecting to never be able to root it again. After several months of non root usage, it was very nice to enjoy some of the luxuries of a rooted phone again. I'm still torn as to which direction to go. I use the hotspot feature daily, and it works much better now than in the unrooted world for me at least.
I just wanted to see if there was any hope for having the best of both worlds.

spearoid said:
I don't need to have root. I bought this phone fully expecting to never be able to root it again. After several months of non root usage, it was very nice to enjoy some of the luxuries of a rooted phone again. I'm still torn as to which direction to go. I use the hotspot feature daily, and it works much better now than in the unrooted world for me at least.
I just wanted to see if there was any hope for having the best of both worlds.
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I was too until the pokemon update lol then I decided no root.

New to s7 edge

Hi just wondering if it is worth rooting this phone at all or should i stay on stock nougat.i still have 2 years warranty on it.know it's an oldish phone now but seems excellent so far

bodomfan said:
Hi just wondering if it is worth rooting this phone at all or should i stay on stock nougat.i still have 2 years warranty on it.know it's an oldish phone now but seems excellent so far
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if you have time for it
when you root you can experience and install lots of mods and module to change systemUI and maybe boost performance & etc
and that means finding good mods, module & etc and read all instruction and if got any error time to troubleshooting.
it s fun but if you have time
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Geeks Empire said:
if you have time for it
when you root you can experience and install lots of mods and module to change systemUI and maybe boost performance & etc
and that means finding good mods, module & etc and read all instruction and if got any error time to troubleshooting.
it s fun but if you have time
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Battery seems ok on stock was expecting a bit better though considering the battery size
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bodomfan said:
Battery seems ok on stock was expecting a bit better though considering the battery size
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About battery, many factors become influences. Some sources say stocks are better in terms of battery. In other cases, if we are right in managing rom and kernel we can get better than stock.

mashardpro said:
About battery, many factors become influences. Some sources say stocks are better in terms of battery. In other cases, if we are right in managing rom and kernel we can get better than stock.
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Don't know what to do may stay on stock are these easy to root used to have the galaxy s5 but went to sony for a while with the z3.really enjoyed that phone now back to Samsung again.i actually like the new Xperia xz premium but this was cheaper

I think it depends on what you want to do with the phone, and how much you are willing to tolerate its stock appearance and system apps.
I have rooted or JB'ed every device I've owned to this point (5 or 6 in total I think).
From personal experience, the S7 Edge so far for me has been unrooted for 7 months and counting. Personal reasons for this are:
1) I wanted to try Samsung Pay (it came to Canada a few months ago and is not worth the hassle for me personally, so this reason is now dead, but it stopped me in the beginning)
2) Hardly any carrier crap-ware. Huge, and this is down to luck. I have a Rogers phone in Canada and it has no carrier crapware of note. If it did, much higher chance I root to get rid of it.
3) Notifications and app disabling. I cannot stand system apps sending me notifications I don't want. I've turned off the default Samsung ones and it has listened to me, which is great. The only two I have left are if the facebook or instagram system apps update and it tells me so. A few times a year, I can deal with that despite me being OCD.
4) Much better stock customization options. We can probably thank custom ROM developers for things like custom notifications, better lockscreen functionality etc. Now they're stock, I've got (just about) enough flexibility to leave it alone.
5) Good customization options, icon packs, launchers, that don't require root.
6) Performance is rapid and battery life is great.
So, YMMV, but that's my 2 cents. For me it's not worth the time or hassle to see if I can eke out a few more percentage points of performance when I'll have to back up my data and spend time trying out different ROMS to find the one I like.
Of course maybe I'm just getting older, but I did spend last Saturday morning JB'ing my iPad!

davey6693 said:
I think it depends on what you want to do with the phone, and how much you are willing to tolerate its stock appearance and system apps.
I have rooted or JB'ed every device I've owned to this point (5 or 6 in total I think).
From personal experience, the S7 Edge so far for me has been unrooted for 7 months and counting. Personal reasons for this are:
1) I wanted to try Samsung Pay (it came to Canada a few months ago and is not worth the hassle for me personally, so this reason is now dead, but it stopped me in the beginning)
2) Hardly any carrier crap-ware. Huge, and this is down to luck. I have a Rogers phone in Canada and it has no carrier crapware of note. If it did, much higher chance I root to get rid of it.
3) Notifications and app disabling. I cannot stand system apps sending me notifications I don't want. I've turned off the default Samsung ones and it has listened to me, which is great. The only two I have left are if the facebook or instagram system apps update and it tells me so. A few times a year, I can deal with that despite me being OCD.
4) Much better stock customization options. We can probably thank custom ROM developers for things like custom notifications, better lockscreen functionality etc. Now they're stock, I've got (just about) enough flexibility to leave it alone.
5) Good customization options, icon packs, launchers, that don't require root.
6) Performance is rapid and battery life is great.
So, YMMV, but that's my 2 cents. For me it's not worth the time or hassle to see if I can eke out a few more percentage points of performance when I'll have to back up my data and spend time trying out different ROMS to find the one I like.
Of course maybe I'm just getting older, but I did spend last Saturday morning JB'ing my iPad!
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What are you using a custom Rom?

bodomfan said:
Don't know what to do may stay on stock are these easy to root used to have the galaxy s5 but went to sony for a while with the z3.really enjoyed that phone now back to Samsung again.i actually like the new Xperia xz premium but this was cheaper
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It seems you are better in stock first because it is still in the warranty period. There are some places that reject the warranty for root

mashardpro said:
It seems you are better in stock first because it is still in the warranty period. There are some places that reject the warranty for root
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The phone itself is only 4 months old bought it second hand in mint condition

bodomfan said:
What are you using a custom Rom?
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I'm still stock.

Hi I just want to know whether I can flash just the CSC from other country's firmware without completely changing it? Is it possible? Flashing CSC alone using odin?

davey6693 said:
I'm still stock.
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Same as me then.stock is pretty good actually

Christy Paul said:
Besides the Knox will be Invalid after you flash a ROM.
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I already know that I had a galaxy s5 before and rooted that
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LG G6... Custom rom or not? and Why?...ty

Hi, everyone!
What are the advantages and disadvantages of custom rom for Lg G6?
Now, do you want me to do custom rom or not?
honestly, I'm torn.
And what do you suggest I do?
So thank you all very much, Sparcky

Believe it or not, stock rom with root is good enough these days. In my opinion.

sparckygoon said:
Hi, everyone!
What are the advantages and disadvantages of custom rom for Lg G6?
Now, do you want me to do custom rom or not?
honestly, I'm torn.
And what do you suggest I do?
So thank you all very much, Sparcky
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Advantages and disadvantages of custom rom
If you have been part of the Android pool for any time, the chances of you hearing the term “custom ROM” is very high. A few months back, I gave a synopsis of rooting. I told what it was and gave its advantages and disadvantages. You may recall that the ability to flash custom ROMs was among the long list of benefits of rooting your Android phone.
DISADVANTAGES
Just as before, I am going to begin with the disadvantages of custom ROMs so that I don't waste the time of the faint of heart, and so you will know just what you are risking. Take the disadvantages seriously. If you do not know what you are doing, you risk turning your shiny, new, Android phone into a very expensive paperweight.
The first and most important drawback to custom ROMs is that you will void your warranty in the processes prior to flashing the ROM. As you may recall, simply rooting your device will void the manufacturer's warranty, and that processes is a prerequisite for flashing a custom ROM. The important disadvantage of custom ROMs is there are usually so many options, it's hard to decide on which one to go with. The solution to this is do your homework. ROMs that aren't widely known are risky and better left for the daring. Also, there is nothing stopping you from trying all of the different ROMs. If you try a ROM that you don't like, reload your backup image or try another.
ADVANTAGES
Now that we have that part out of the way, we can get into the juicy stuff. What is all the hype about? What makes ROM flashing so beneficial to the end user? What is possible when flashing custom ROMs? There are many questions that can be asked and just as many possibilities when using custom software. I'm going to try to cover the most important topics.
The biggest complaint about Android to date is no just fragmentation, but the slow firmware upgrades coming from manufacturers. Official software has to be sent through rigorous testing and numerous levels of approval from the manufacturer and carrier before it reaches users' hands. This can take and usually does take several months.
The most important part is knowing your risks. Always follow instructions intently. Deviating from a developer's set of instructions is asking for trouble. If something goes wrong, there is no one to blame but yourself.

How are you going to use your device?
IMO, if you use your device like most people, I think you can live with a stock ROM.
Moreover, if you are torn, what are the issues you are facing currently with your device? If these issues can be solved by installing a custom ROM, you provided your own answer.

Multiple choice, more fun!

I tried Fulmics, which is stock ROM plus tweaks, and eventually went back to stock ROM with root because it seemed more stable. I haven't tried any of the AOSP-based ROMs yet. I will give Fulmics one more try soon, but honestly the only thing I really miss on the stock ROM is text navigation arrow keys on the navbar when there's a keyboard active, and that's not in Fulmics either.
I might try LineageOS eventually just because they've fixed KRACK and nobody else has yet. But unless Fulmics or an AOSP-based ROM really wow me in some way, I wouldn't really have too much problem staying on rooted stock.

Sam.1211 said:
Believe it or not, stock rom with root is good enough these days. In my opinion.
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I agree.
You also might lose some features going to another ROM.
I've had my unlocked US997 for about a month now and didn't bother unlocking the bootloader.
The only things that were missing were ad blocking and being able to change colors of notification.
I found a non-root ad block solution and I can live without the other.
Previously I needed root to tether, but I switched to a newer plan and not that's not an issue.
Stock ROM with or without root.

tech_head said:
I agree.
You also might lose some features going to another ROM.
I've had my unlocked US997 for about a month now and didn't bother unlocking the bootloader.
The only things that were missing were ad blocking and being able to change colors of notification.
I found a non-root ad block solution and I can live without the other.
Previously I needed root to tether, but I switched to a newer plan and not that's not an issue.
Stock ROM with or without root.
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What was the non-root ad block solution you found?

dwasifar said:
the only thing I really miss on the stock ROM is text navigation arrow keys on the navbar when there's a keyboard active,
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what is feature and how do I use it? I'm using the stock keyboard.

zedmarcus said:
What was the non-root ad block solution you found?
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AdClear -> https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-adclear-root-version-ad-blocker-t3309011

HKSpeed said:
what is feature and how do I use it? I'm using the stock keyboard.
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If you're on the stock ROM, or a stock-based ROM like Fulmics, you don't. That's why I miss it; I'm on the stock ROM.
It's a feature I've seen in AOSP and CAF ROMs on other phones. Basically it adds left and right arrows to the navigation bar when there's a keyboard up, so you can move the cursor around easily.
LineageOS might have it. I don't know, I haven't looked. But I think it was originally a Cyanogenmod invention that got kanged around, so it makes sense that LineageOS might.

tech_head said:
I agree.
You also might lose some features going to another ROM.
I've had my unlocked US997 for about a month now and didn't bother unlocking the bootloader.
The only things that were missing were ad blocking and being able to change colors of notification.
I found a non-root ad block solution and I can live without the other.
Previously I needed root to tether, but I switched to a newer plan and not that's not an issue.
Stock ROM with or without root.
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Idem...Thanks

tech_head said:
I agree.
You also might lose some features going to another ROM.
I've had my unlocked US997 for about a month now and didn't bother unlocking the bootloader.
The only things that were missing were ad blocking and being able to change colors of notification.
I found a non-root ad block solution and I can live without the other.
Previously I needed root to tether, but I switched to a newer plan and not that's not an issue.
Stock ROM with or without root.
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Idem...Thanks
The basic ingredient missing in the "custom rom" is "wide angle" of camera ...It's may as well be an anathema.

Sam.1211 said:
Believe it or not, stock rom with root is good enough these days. In my opinion.
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Idem...Thanks
The basic ingredient missing in the "custom rom" is "wide angle" of camera ...It's may as well be an anathema.

Advantage: better battery life, better looks and way smoother
disadvantage: cant use both camera's
I am running lineage os on h870 and i get easy 2 days battery life out of it (i disabled almost all background procceses and location and ****)

mingo_mgx said:
Advantage: better battery life, better looks and way smoother
disadvantage: cant use both camera's
I am running lineage os on h870 and i get easy 2 days battery life out of it (i disabled almost all background procceses and location and ****)
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You can get better battery life with a stock ROM and a custom kernel.
You can skin the ROM with custom settings (Xposed) and something like Nova Launcher.

I can live with the custom ROM on phones that don't have a ridiculously modified OS. LG and Samsung, just to name a couple do so many modifications that I really miss LOS.

mingo_mgx said:
Advantage: better battery life, better looks and way smoother
disadvantage: cant use both camera's
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You can use both cameras with OpenCamera. It's in Play Store.

dwasifar said:
You can use both cameras with OpenCamera. It's in Play Store.
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I know but it doesnt have the ported google pixel 2 HDR

dwasifar said:
If you're on the stock ROM, or a stock-based ROM like Fulmics, you don't. That's why I miss it; I'm on the stock ROM.
It's a feature I've seen in AOSP and CAF ROMs on other phones. Basically it adds left and right arrows to the navigation bar when there's a keyboard up, so you can move the cursor around easily.
LineageOS might have it. I don't know, I haven't looked. But I think it was originally a Cyanogenmod invention that got kanged around, so it makes sense that LineageOS might.
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Try Swiftkey and configure it to show arrow keys (cursor keys). I works.