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I just installed the beta 2 for the developers what is published today on my dell venue pro and I wanted to share my first impressions with the community. I will update this thread with my findings (positive or negative).
First some history:
I bought the phone in the US beginning of January. I live in Europe, Spain and I have my phone developer unlocked. So now you know where my phone came its maybe comparable for some of you here in the forums.
After update my phone have the following software specs:
DVP 8Gb model upgraded to 16gb
OS: 7661.WP7_6_Trial (mojobld).20110607-1657
Firmware: 2250.1500.7004.105
Hardware rev. 112.576.2.0
Radio software: 2.2.5.15
Radio hardware: 8250
Bootloader: 7.27.1.0
After update:
I noticed that the phone contained all my data, installed programs telephone numbers ect. what I didn't expect after doing any flash.
Positive points:
- Reaction speed is much better then NODO
- Stable OS (BETA 2 is mostly stable)
- The new functionality of course.
Negative point
- I noticed that background programs like eg. 4th and mayor are closing down out of them self. I'm not sure if multi-tasking is fully implemented.
- Some times I have a white glim's if I start an app in the overlay
Still need to try
- I have the feeling the software for the phone is indeed better but need some more testing.
- Somehow get a benchmark program to see if the performance is really better.
- I think the battery is also better but i'm not sure yet.
Maybe people who have access to the beta can also share their experience. I can confirm the BETA will not brick our phones
Here you can download the beta. There is a manual to install without dev unlocked device!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1149265
Ah..You beat me to it... I too just installed it and its awesome first impressions. Its super buttery smooth and fast. I installed my update on the FW beta testing unit.
So the FW is 212 and rest all the same for mango.
Takeaway: DVP will get the Mango update and it works.
I will report back with more info.
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Ah..You beat me to it... I too just installed it and its awesome first impressions. Its super buttery smooth and fast. I installed my update on the FW beta testing unit.
So the FW is 212 and rest all the same for mango.
Takeaway: DVP will get the Mango update and it works.
I will report back with more info.
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both of you beat me jerks! j/k
update ran smooth on both the firmware updated and non updated devices. The experience is fantastic. There is no question of that. Mango is a demon
I need to test on the old f/w but users let me say this. New update + mango == you may think you are in mobile heaven
It's really funny that the devices are using 2 year old tech for all intents and purposes and it is outperforming android by leaps and bounds!
I should do a benchmark
can we update to Mango beta first, then only upgrade the firmware when it comes out? or is it better to wait until the firmware update is applied before installing Mango beta?
synergeia said:
can we update to Mango beta first, then only upgrade the firmware when it comes out? or is it better to wait until the firmware update is applied before installing Mango beta?
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If you don't have a spare device, i would recommend waiting it out for the FW to come and then update to Mango beta. All sources info lead to FW only update and no OS level update - still i would be cautious..becos you don't want the Mango experience to be ruined by the wifi crash.
Firmware and BetaMango?
Ok guys my phone is a junk right now mostly lockups and phone issues. Any help with finding downloading and installing the FW along with Mango? I would be very thankful.......
Didn't I tell ya. Mango rocks on the Dell.
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alodar1 said:
Didn't I tell ya. Mango rocks on the Dell.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA Premium App
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totally rocking on the dvp! easily now the best windows phone
domineus said:
totally rocking on the dvp! easily now the best windows phone
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all for the want of a tiny little fix....thanks for the drama Dell
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all for the want of a tiny little fix....thanks for the drama Dell
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And shot themselves for this long and got their image tarnished (if not already).
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And shot themselves for this long and got their image tarnished (if not already).
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For sure. People are looking for 32GB WP7 phones but the Dell is not mentioned despite being the first OEM to ship legit 32GB devices. They would have been second only to Samsung IMO for best WP7 device. Should have got on top of the issues we reported faster letting positive word of mouth spread and capitalised on the form factor but I have to say, they seemed strangely uninterested in actually making an impact (even with the Venue android version). And the resulting bad rep is now really affecting their perception. Sad.
Without question...
What remains to be see is if they can do something to regain a lot of what they lost. I think if they make the concessions right they can convince a lot of customers to talk highly of Dell and that would go a long way.
If they just drop the firmware and continue as if nothing happened then the last memory they will have in many people's minds is the failed DVP start and that can sag their reputation for a LONG time. Ford comes to mind in that regard...
Back to Topic - One good thing with DVP and Mango compared to other devices:
Since DVP never had much homebrew action due to it not exposing API's as other vendors, it became a good thing with Mango. The reason is now Homebrew apps are either killed or don't work with Mango beta. I feel sad for HTC folks I am sure they will resurrect.
But the approved homebrew solution from chevronlabs should remedy that, right? BTW what is the best thing about Mango in everyday use?
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But the approved homebrew solution from chevronlabs should remedy that, right? BTW what is the best thing about Mango in everyday use?
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I hope Chevron comes to rescue.
Linked Inbox, Chat (Messaging), improved Contacts Live tile (with who commented on FB status) and better people hub (groups - i dont want to Swift tons of Vendor garbage in FB.) - so far.
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I hope Chevron comes to rescue.
Linked Inbox, Chat (Messaging), improved Contacts Live tile (with who commented on FB status) and better people hub (groups - i dont want to Swift tons of Vendor garbage in FB.) - so far.
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Can you view videos in facebook feeds, and is youtube support better?
Guys, I get no more blurry pictures from my DVP, and that's without the updated firmware... Loving juicy mango.
omaropa said:
Guys, I get no more blurry pictures from my DVP, and that's without the updated firmware... Loving juicy mango.
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efjay said:
Can you view videos in facebook feeds, and is youtube support better?
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Its the same as before. Still you need to click watch video.
One thing i am noticing with Mango is if one uses the full Mango experience, the battery will be drained in 1/2 day. I used my phone the same way as i would+Mango and it drained in 8 hrs. Pre-Mango, i used to get 15 hrs.
Probably this has been addressed before but cannot find it easily.
On the Elephone forum , it has been stated that this malware is present on stock rom on the P9000. Can it be removed, stopped or is it advisable simply to install a different rom to avoid it? If another rom is the way to go, which is the most stable?
Thanks in advance
I tested CM13 final build 3 and is working fine for me. I only use the phone for gaming and internet browsing. I think is the best ROM, you can customize it a lot.
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I tested CM13 final build 3 and is working fine for me. I only use the phone for gaming and internet browsing. I think is the best ROM, you can customize it a lot.
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Unless you want your personal data transferred elsewhere on a regular basis I would agree that it's essential to ditch the stock ROM. For me the fact it has this backdoor is a major deal-breaker. Plus, the fact that the fingerprint sensor is useless in the stock ROM is also a deal-breaker for me.
I have not tried CM13 Final Build 3, but I did flash Final build 4 and found it was a *dramatic* improvement over the stock (once the audio fix was applied) until I found that Bluetooth Audio did not work. I then tried Final Build 5 which although BT Audio worked, regular audio didn't :crying:. I am now beginning to think perhaps I can live without Bluetooth Audio for a while
The fingerprint sensor in CM13 FB4/5 was dramatically improved (for me at least) and probably 80% reliable (up from about 20%)
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Unless you want your personal data transferred elsewhere on a regular basis I would agree that it's essential to ditch the stock ROM. For me the fact it has this backdoor is a major deal-breaker. Plus, the fact that the fingerprint sensor is useless in the stock ROM is also a deal-breaker for me.
I have not tried CM13 Final Build 3, but I did flash Final build 4 and found it was a *dramatic* improvement over the stock (once the audio fix was applied) until I found that Bluetooth Audio did not work. I then tried Final Build 5 which although BT Audio worked, regular audio didn't :crying:. I am now beginning to think perhaps I can live without Bluetooth Audio for a while
The fingerprint sensor in CM13 FB4/5 was dramatically improved (for me at least) and probably 80% reliable (up from about 20%)
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install fb3 its the best build for now
Not rooted yet, used Debloater
First time here. Thanks for your posts.
I have the same problem with my brand-new P9000. Still unrooted. Anyway, after googling around I found a short guide on wonderhowto.com. It looks legit and I used Debloater (by Gatesjunior) to block com.adups.fota, com.adups.fota.sysoper.
Also blocked com.elephone.elephoneuserfeedbackv1, after reading an old but ominous post on xda-developers (adware in an official OTA update for the p7000).
Hope this helps.
MihaiSG said:
I tested CM13 final build 3 and is working fine for me. I only use the phone for gaming and internet browsing. I think is the best ROM, you can customize it a lot.
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Is there a cm 13 build for p9000 lite?
Had the same experience with this company. Obviously are also "official supported" Roms infected, as the Aerom, because it based on the stock rom. As far i know only eragon and CM have this trojan not in their distribution.
Of course there are ways to temporarily stop this Backdoor Services. Debloater is one of them. But they was many postings on reddit about this tool, and it seems that the Service renew and restart as soon the Device is rebooted.
But to say it frankly. A Company who sell me a device with some trojan rootkit, which will spy my passwords, personal data and who knows what else, has lose all my trust.
For this and for some other reasons (payment software, fingerprint) i dumped this phone after nearly 2 months. Thanks god Amazon customer service worked flawless like usual. Elephone never again. Bought instead a nice oneplus 3T which is from other dimension compared to the elephone p9000.
Would be interesting to know how many other chinese phone manufacturers do the same thing. I doubt big players like xiaomi and huawei would risc their reputation with such a moronic move.
Just read this on the Elephone forum regarding FOTA (Firmware over the air) Software by ADUPS -
¨ From version 5.5 and up this capability was removed. ¨ LINK see post #9 for more info and how to check your phone. I assume this is fact.
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Just read this on the Elephone forum regarding FOTA (Firmware over the air) Software by ADUPS -
¨ From version 5.5 and up this capability was removed. ¨ see post #9 for more info and how to check your phone. I assume this is fact.
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i should have posted the same info here on XDA developers, but as for now i'm not yet allowed to post url links
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Huawei-Mate-9-to-receive-Android-8.0-Oreo-update-soon_id98317
Cool. Maybe we will see an update by the end of the year though I expect it to come after Xmas.
Yes, and which version will get it first? Chinese, European, or US? Anyone want to hazard a guess?
Typically, the Chinese get it first, then India, middle east, Mars, Pluto, Alpha Centuri, THEN the Usa MIGHT get it.
Personally, it really doesn't matter to me. Marshmellow was stable on my Mate8, as was Nougat. Nougat is stable
on my Mate9. Other than security patches, it really doesn't matter...to me.
The new features are not that important. Only thing that's be really great to have is the filling API so you can use password managers easily.
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Only thing that's be really great to have is the filling API so you can use password managers easily.
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Agreed.
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I'm really excited about Oreo's tunable doze. Well, assuming Huawei release enough sources to let us take any advantage of it. Standby time on this phone is not great. I have maxed out LTE signal, I live across the street from my cell tower and it still loses 5 to 8% overnight. Greenify was no help, nothing's running, no abnormal wakelocks etc. It's just bad apparently. I can only imagine how bad it is for anybody that has less than perfect signal where they live.
Strange I lose 1 to 2 percent overnight
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Strange I lose 1 to 2 percent overnight
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I'm really excited about Oreo's tunable doze. Well, assuming Huawei release enough sources to let us take any advantage of it. Standby time on this phone is not great. I have maxed out LTE signal, I live across the street from my cell tower and it still loses 5 to 8% overnight. Greenify was no help, nothing's running, no abnormal wakelocks etc. It's just bad apparently. I can only imagine how bad it is for anybody that has less than perfect signal where they live.
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A little off topic but battery usage on the Mate 9 is odd for me. Here is what I noticed:
If I unplug my phone then dont use it all overnight, my phone goes into deep sleep for 97% of the time as reported by BBS. This results in a battery drain of about 0.2-0.3%/hour.
Even if I just turn on my phone for 1 sec to see the time, and do not use it at all for the next few hours, my phone never gets back to as high a deep sleep figure. Wake time with screen off dramatically increases and my battery drain goes to about 1-1.5% per hour.
If I use GPS, battery drain is really really bad.
All that being said, I am hopeful Oreo and EMUI 5.X or 6.X improves on battery life.
I use appops ... To turn off lots of apks like messenger , fb , I deny lots of the permissions and I still get 3 days easily on battery life
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I have seen a lot of reports of bugs with Oreo - for google and nexus devices, so I hope that Huawei's implementation of Oreo is a version that has those bugs - fixed.
US version will be getting oreo
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Typically, the Chinese get it first, then India, middle east, Mars, Pluto, Alpha Centuri, THEN the Usa MIGHT get it.
Personally, it really doesn't matter to me. Marshmellow was stable on my Mate8, as was Nougat. Nougat is stable
on my Mate9. Other than security patches, it really doesn't matter...to me.
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The US version of the phone will be getting oreo, no "might" to it supposed to be sometime in December, they already had a beta for the US version (long closed) and that build is available on ff (MHA-L29 8.0.0.321 (C567)). I installed it and so far it's just as stable as nougat, not any substantial changes except for the kernel jump to 4.4 from 4.2 and the October 5 security update. Huawei Oreo update includes project treble which will make further updates easier and hopefully more timely.
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I have seen a lot of reports of bugs with Oreo - for google and nexus devices, so I hope that Huawei's implementation of Oreo is a version that has those bugs - fixed.
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I haven't seen any real bugs so far, most of the "bugs" reported with Google and Nexus devices had more to do with that particular devices HAL than the Android framework itself, if tried pretty much all the features so far and haven't noticed any issues, especially this that have been reported by Google pixel and Nexus users. IMHO since Huawei manufactures their own silicon and writes their own HAL code they are probably a little better equipped than companies (lg and htc) that just are relying on closed binaries and documentation from SoC suppliers.
lol tought it was a new thread
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The US version of the phone will be getting oreo, no "might" to it supposed to be sometime in December, they already had a beta for the US version (long closed) and that build is available on ff (MHA-L29 8.0.0.321 (C567)). I installed it and so far it's just as stable as nougat, not any substantial changes except for the kernel jump to 4.4 from 4.2 and the October 5 security update. Huawei Oreo update includes project treble which will make further updates easier and hopefully more timely.
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I haven't seen any real bugs so far, most of the "bugs" reported with Google and Nexus devices had more to do with that particular devices HAL than the Android framework itself, if tried pretty much all the features so far and haven't noticed any issues, especially this that have been reported by Google pixel and Nexus users. IMHO since Huawei manufactures their own silicon and writes their own HAL code they are probably a little better equipped than companies (lg and htc) that just are relying on closed binaries and documentation from SoC suppliers.
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Same here...the "321" is as stable for me, as 7 was.
p51d007 said:
Same here...the "321" is as stable for me, as 7 was.
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Are root and xposed working in Oreo? And are there any custom rom for Oreo now? Thanks!
lemonade747 said:
Are root and xposed working in Oreo? And are there any custom rom for Oreo now? Thanks!
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I haven't rooted in years. Last phone I rooted was a Galaxy Note. After the Mate2, 8,9 I've never had the need to root.
No custom Oreo ROMs
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Are root and xposed working in Oreo? And are there any custom rom for Oreo now? Thanks!
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As far as I know there isn't a root yet for the Oreo ROM, no Xposed either. The mate 9 is on the list to get lineage 15 which is Oreo, but there is really no telling how long it will take to get a usable ROM from them.
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As far as I know there isn't a root yet for the Oreo ROM, no Xposed either. The mate 9 is on the list to get lineage 15 which is Oreo, but there is really no telling how long it will take to get a usable ROM from them.
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There is for for Mate 9 Oreo.
p51d007 said:
I haven't rooted in years. Last phone I rooted was a Galaxy Note. After the Mate2, 8,9 I've never had the need to root.
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what about the ads in apps and everywhere else?
Use dns66 - works perfect for me
Does anyone know when Oreo will be released for the single sim model? I can see that nearly everyone else has it already although there seems to be some problems too. I'm in Aus btw if that matters
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Does anyone know when Oreo will be released for the single sim model? I can see that nearly everyone else has it already although there seems to be some problems too. I'm in Aus btw if that matters
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Im in perth bud and nope we dont know yet but im sure its when they fix the issues for single sim
An HTC guy said on twitter it should be fairly close. He couldn't give a specific date but I think this month the update for uhl should role out.
I hope they will publish it soon.
Could you please tell me if root and twrp work on single sim model?
Thanks in advance.
Better ready and with no bugs then soon with high temp and battery drain.
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Better ready and with no bugs then soon with high temp and battery drain.
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you consider 8 months after HTCs official announcement as soon?
You knew when you bought the phone that it wasnt htc 1st priority based on its flop. Other phones didnt get it long ago, so its not only htc.
update is live...
Should get a custom rom soon i hope
My first impressions from the update are positive. Neutron player is now working in high resolution audio mode, google camera mod is more stable and performance is same like on nougat at least in geekbench 4. Will make further tests in the upcoming days and see how it goes.
Confirm update oreo 2.21.401 single sim Italy 1.77GB
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My first impressions from the update are positive. Neutron player is now working in high resolution audio mode, google camera mod is more stable and performance is same like on nougat at least in geekbench 4. Will make further tests in the upcoming days and see how it goes.
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same for me
Nothing for me in UK yet
Oreo update arrived on my U Ultra - single sim, from Amazon Spain.
I did a factory reset and reinstalled everything, now I'm gonna charge it back to 100% and see how the phone behaves.
Also update arrive in Romania on Orange carrier... And a question, need to reset phone for better performance ?
I did a reset just in case, to get a clean slate
I just wiped the cache, so far no issues.
I did not wipe cache or reset anything and so far do not see any performance difference compared to nougat.
2.21.401.1 arrived...Greece
Same Sh1t... Different Day
It's in Croatia also (on single SIM)
As everyone on here probably knows, z5 premium will not be getting any further security updates. Its timing couldn't have been any worse either. When I bought this premium phone (which costs almost as much as a flagship iphone), I didn't expect to have my security updates cut in just 2 years. I was planning to hang onto this phone for a few years until something worth upgrading to came out.
So like many who still own this phone, I am wondering is there anyway to keep my phone secure and still use it? My phone is unlocked and rooted and I am running the latest firmware. I unfortunately didn't back up my drm keys so I had to use the hack method to keep my phones functionality (fingerprint sensor, camera...etc) I'm wondering what is the best close to stock firmware to use to get the latest security updates and also how much functionality is lost by using those? It's to my understanding the camera only works the best with the official camera app and 4k only works on the album app and movie app. Will I lose 4k capability by switching to a custom firmware?
Any insight on any of this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks to all who took the time to read this and a big thanks in advance to anyone who can provide any input.
Mostly updated custom kernel + custom ROMs (Sony Stock ROM + kernel based)
e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/development/m-rom-t3781969
and
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76269595&postcount=418
well, newer custom kernels will have WPA2 KRACK protection, protection/mitigation against Meltdown/Spectre (a class of timing-based) attacks and other fixes & improvements
updated binaries for e.g. wpa_supplicant might be needed but I haven't really looked into those details yet
Thanks. Is it possible to use a custom kernal like the one you provided in your second link with the latest official firmware (32.4.1.54) since I only care about updating my security?
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Thanks. Is it possible to use a custom kernal like the one you provided in your second link with the latest official firmware (32.4.1.54) since I only care about updating my security?
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sure, flash TWRP (if not already done so),
do a backup of each partition separately (/boot , /data , /system)
and flash the kernel
it'll update /boot and modules in /system
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sure, flash TWRP (if not already done so),
do a backup of each partition separately (/boot , /data , /system)
and flash the kernel
it'll update /boot and modules in /system
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I appreciate the help and sorry for all the questions. Is backing up the partitions still necessary if I already have a backup of the firmware from xperifirm? Yes I already have TWRP because I used it to root my device. Also I'm assuming the kernal I want is on the first post of the second link you shared with me but there are two files to be downloaded and I'm not sure which to use. I'm on a z5 premium e6853.
Thanks again.
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I appreciate the help and sorry for all the questions. Is backing up the partitions still necessary if I already have a backup of the firmware from xperifirm? Yes I already have TWRP because I used it to root my device. Also I'm assuming the kernal I want is on the first post of the second link you shared with me but there are two files to be downloaded and I'm not sure which to use. I'm on a z5 premium e6853.
Thanks again.
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I just flashed over the first one with fastboot. Worked fine. Security is still showing September 2017 though. Is there anyway I can know if I'm more secure now?
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I just flashed over the first one with fastboot. Worked fine. Security is still showing September 2017 though. Is there anyway I can know if I'm more secure now?
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you take a look at the source in github
sorry, the ROM base is the same [and thus you're affected by the vulnerabilities, so best would be to re-enable SELinux which gives quite a good protection itself],
kernel-side however got you covered (well, it really depends how much the kernel is patched up).
You, of course, could try out RR, LineageOS which are somewhat more up-to-date (updates stopped being added November / December last year for Android 7.1.y),
but there you'd lose e.g. picture stabilization on video recording, MHL, MirrorLink, superior post-processing on pictures, etc.
The problem with these device (Snapdragon 810) is that Qualcomm dropped support for the msm8994 platform,
and since we're stuck with 3.10 kernel it's a community effort to get it patched up somewhat.
There'd be the possibility to upgrade & port the kernel to 4.4 but since the API, etc. would mismatch and newer drivers are missing it's basically not worth the effort
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you take a look at the source in github
sorry, the ROM base is the same [and thus you're affected by the vulnerabilities, so best would be to re-enable SELinux which gives quite a good protection itself],
kernel-side however got you covered (well, it really depends how much the kernel is patched up).
You, of course, could try out RR, LineageOS which are somewhat more up-to-date (updates stopped being added November / December last year for Android 7.1.y),
but there you'd lose e.g. picture stabilization on video recording, MHL, MirrorLink, superior post-processing on pictures, etc.
The problem with these device (Snapdragon 810) is that Qualcomm dropped support for the msm8994 platform,
and since we're stuck with 3.10 kernel it's a community effort to get it patched up somewhat.
There'd be the possibility to upgrade & port the kernel to 4.4 but since the API, etc. would mismatch and newer drivers are missing it's basically not worth the effort
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That's too bad. I guess it's as I thought; there's no real perfect solution to staying secure at the time being. Well, thanks for the kernal anyways. I can't believe how much better my phone is now. It has me puzzled why Sony didn't release it like this in the first place.
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As everyone on here probably knows, z5 premium will not be getting any further security updates. Its timing couldn't have been any worse either. When I bought this premium phone (which costs almost as much as a flagship iphone), I didn't expect to have my security updates cut in just 2 years. I was planning to hang onto this phone for a few years until something worth upgrading to came out.
So like many who still own this phone, I am wondering is there anyway to keep my phone secure and still use it? My phone is unlocked and rooted and I am running the latest firmware. I unfortunately didn't back up my drm keys so I had to use the hack method to keep my phones functionality (fingerprint sensor, camera...etc) I'm wondering what is the best close to stock firmware to use to get the latest security updates and also how much functionality is lost by using those? It's to my understanding the camera only works the best with the official camera app and 4k only works on the album app and movie app. Will I lose 4k capability by switching to a custom firmware?
Any insight on any of this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks to all who took the time to read this and a big thanks in advance to anyone who can provide any input.
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yes! sony treated this device as their step son!
released late 2015, hit market 2016, and was already in LEGACY DEVICES in 2017, the whole series discontinued and after many months they released android 7.1.1 and thats it, no more builds or updates!
feel sorry for the device, it has all the premium features but treated badly!
- the 4k capability depends on which 3rd party rom you are using! , btw not many roms are available for z5p
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yes! sony treated this device as their step son!
released late 2015, hit market 2016, and was already in LEGACY DEVICES in 2017, the whole series discontinued and after many months they released android 7.1.1 and thats it, no more builds or updates!
feel sorry for the device, it has all the premium features but treated badly!
- the 4k capability depends on which 3rd party rom you are using! , btw not many roms are available for z5p
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Yeah I know, it's pathetic really. It's still a very current device as it was a very high spec phone when it was released. High spec phones like these don't get outdated that quickly. It's even more insulting that they cut support right as the meltdown vulnerability came out. They knew what they were doing -it's like a forced upgrade. Problem is: there is nothing released by Sony that really surpasses this phone in specs, or at least not enough for most people to be willing to spend all that cash on a new phone when their current one works perfectly. I don't see any compelling reason to run out and get an xz premium unless my phone breaks and dislike the xz2 premium. Oh well, I'll just have to use caution and hope for the best until a phone worth upgrading to comes out or my phone dies. Whatever happens first I suppose. Thanks for the sympathy.
Mike3009 said:
Yeah I know, it's pathetic really. It's still a very current device as it was a very high spec phone when it was released. High spec phones like these don't get outdated that quickly. It's even more insulting that they cut support right as the meltdown vulnerability came out. They knew what they were doing -it's like a forced upgrade. Problem is: there is nothing released by Sony that really surpasses this phone in specs, or at least not enough for most people to be willing to spend all that cash on a new phone when their current one works perfectly. I don't see any compelling reason to run out and get an xz premium unless my phone breaks and dislike the xz2 premium. Oh well, I'll just have to use caution and hope for the best until a phone worth upgrading to comes out or my phone dies. Whatever happens first I suppose. Thanks for the sympathy.
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sony never forgets to disappoint their customers by keep releasing unfinished flagships on the frequency of new bulletins!
whole z series abandoned after z5p due to huge billions of book losses to sony in xperia project. the device should have been with 4gb ram! but instead it was kept on 3gb!
z5p is awesome device, stable, stays in control and maintain itself amazinly!
now xzp came out finally with 4gb ram (should have been 6)
where xz2p is coming with 6gb ram and strange bumpy design and misplaced finger print sensor!
i don't know what sony is up to!
What's really disappointing is the lack of roms being developed. The prices are getting pretty nice right now for the z5 premium after support was dropped making it an attractive, affordable 4k smartphone for new comers. Also for those of us who already own it, having at least one decent rom solution would be really nice. It's pretty sad that I'd have to give up some of the functionality that I paid for in order to continue to keep my device secure. I'm going to stick to official firmware with anti-virus along with this updated kernel and hope for the best. I'd very much appreciate it if anyone finds a good custom firmware solution, to please let me know. Thanks in advance.
YasuHamed said:
yes! sony treated this device as their step son!
released late 2015, hit market 2016, and was already in LEGACY DEVICES in 2017, the whole series discontinued and after many months they released android 7.1.1 and thats it, no more builds or updates!
feel sorry for the device, it has all the premium features but treated badly!
- the 4k capability depends on which 3rd party rom you are using! , btw not many roms are available for z5p
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zacharias.maladroit said:
you take a look at the source in github
sorry, the ROM base is the same [and thus you're affected by the vulnerabilities, so best would be to re-enable SELinux which gives quite a good protection itself],
kernel-side however got you covered (well, it really depends how much the kernel is patched up).
You, of course, could try out RR, LineageOS which are somewhat more up-to-date (updates stopped being added November / December last year for Android 7.1.y),
but there you'd lose e.g. picture stabilization on video recording, MHL, MirrorLink, superior post-processing on pictures, etc.
The problem with these device (Snapdragon 810) is that Qualcomm dropped support for the msm8994 platform,
and since we're stuck with 3.10 kernel it's a community effort to get it patched up somewhat.
There'd be the possibility to upgrade & port the kernel to 4.4 but since the API, etc. would mismatch and newer drivers are missing it's basically not worth the effort
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How can we enable selinux?