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Alright, I've been having this re-occuring problem for a while now. It does NOT matter what ROM I use, it happens on them all so far (DC, Fresh, Aloysius, Regaw, etc). Let me go over exactly what has been going on.
When I wipe everything and flash a new ROM, the phone does everything as it should. It sleeps like it is supposed to and a fully charged battery will last a very long time.
For some reason there comes a point (a day or two after flashing) where I notice the battery dropping faster, and I notice that my awake time is the same as my up time. I've used "Battery Use" and "Spare Parts" in order to try and locate any possible problem.. nothing is showing. The only thing I know is that when the problem starts: Spare Parts -> Other Usage, shows Running @ 100% and when I click on "Running" It says the phone went (however long) without sleep.
Last night I wiped everything and flashed Aloysius 2.0.2.. I decided to monitor it more closely and chose to NOT install ANY apps, just to see if the problem happens. So the phone was sleeping properly all night. I went to sleep and chose NOT to charge it, because it seemed like the problems started when I charged it or plugged it into PC. So I left it unplugged all night. I woke up and saw that it slept the entire night as it should.
I was messing with the phone, couple of emails, couple of text messages, a few phone calls. The phone was at about 14 hours of uptime and 1 hour awake at this point. When I finished with just some calls and text, I left the phone alone while I went outside to do some things. I came back and checked the uptime.. 18 hours and awake time 5.. Phone refused to sleep again.
I shut the phone down, took the battery out for 60 seconds, put battery back in, put cover on, booted phone back up ("power cycling"). Phone has been on for 5 hours now with an awake time of 5 hours. I can't find anything unusual in battery use nor spare parts again. Now the "Other usage" in "spare parts" shows "Running" as 100% with no sleep time, but I can't figure out what is causing it to be constantly "running". I've even gone as far as to shut off all background data, syncing, locations, and even evdo all together. I have tried so many thing and can't figure out why ONLY a WIPE+flash fixes this temporarily?
Sorry for the extremely long post, but does anyone have any ideas or experience similar problems?
have you tried giving your phone some sleeping pills?
Austin3600 said:
Alright, I've been having this re-occuring problem for a while now. It does NOT matter what ROM I use, it happens on them all so far (DC, Fresh, Aloysius, Regaw, etc). Let me go over exactly what has been going on.
When I wipe everything and flash a new ROM, the phone does everything as it should. It sleeps like it is supposed to and a fully charged battery will last a very long time.
For some reason there comes a point (a day or two after flashing) where I notice the battery dropping faster, and I notice that my awake time is the same as my up time. I've used "Battery Use" and "Spare Parts" in order to try and locate any possible problem.. nothing is showing. The only thing I know is that when the problem starts: Spare Parts -> Other Usage, shows Running @ 100% and when I click on "Running" It says the phone went (however long) without sleep.
Last night I wiped everything and flashed Aloysius 2.0.2.. I decided to monitor it more closely and chose to NOT install ANY apps, just to see if the problem happens. So the phone was sleeping properly all night. I went to sleep and chose NOT to charge it, because it seemed like the problems started when I charged it or plugged it into PC. So I left it unplugged all night. I woke up and saw that it slept the entire night as it should.
I was messing with the phone, couple of emails, couple of text messages, a few phone calls. The phone was at about 14 hours of uptime and 1 hour awake at this point. When I finished with just some calls and text, I left the phone alone while I went outside to do some things. I came back and checked the uptime.. 18 hours and awake time 5.. Phone refused to sleep again.
I shut the phone down, took the battery out for 60 seconds, put battery back in, put cover on, booted phone back up ("power cycling"). Phone has been on for 5 hours now with an awake time of 5 hours. I can't find anything unusual in battery use nor spare parts again. Now the "Other usage" in "spare parts" shows "Running" as 100% with no sleep time, but I can't figure out what is causing it to be constantly "running". I've even gone as far as to shut off all background data, syncing, locations, and even evdo all together. I have tried so many thing and can't figure out why ONLY a WIPE+flash fixes this temporarily?
Sorry for the extremely long post, but does anyone have any ideas or experience similar problems?
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You aren't running a2sd are you? You're sure that your apps aren't just getting reinstalled after a restore because they are actually stored on sd:ext?
I had this problem. The 1.5 release was supposed to fix the problem. It was the dialer running at 100%. Didn't fix it for me. Talked to HTC and they said the problem still exists sometimes. But I had to exchange my phone and the new one has never done that. I think they had some bad phones. If you can't figure it out get your phone replaced.
Sorry I should have mentioned, I forgot. I used to run Apps2SD. I thought that may have been the culprit, so I partitioned my SD card again.
With the latest wipe, I partitioned my SD card with 0 ext and 0 swap, all fat. So no apps2SD now. With the partition was a complete format, so there was NO data on the SD card to restore from. My restore data is on my PC only and I haven't used it.
Edit: Also, I have a minimum of 4 out of 6 bars at all times. 0% TWS
mgraham361 said:
I had this problem. The 1.5 release was supposed to fix the problem. It was the dialer running at 100%. Didn't fix it for me. Talked to HTC and they said the problem still exists sometimes. But I had to exchange my phone and the new one has never done that. I think they had some bad phones. If you can't figure it out get your phone replaced.
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Did rebooting fix the problem or was it constantly screwed?
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Did rebooting fix the problem or was it constantly screwed?
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Reboot sometimes fixed it but them it was only temporary. If I remember right it started the always awake again sometime between 12-24 hours after the reboot.
Austin3600 said:
Alright, I've been having this re-occuring problem for a while now. It does NOT matter what ROM I use, it happens on them all so far (DC, Fresh, Aloysius, Regaw, etc). Let me go over exactly what has been going on.
When I wipe everything and flash a new ROM, the phone does everything as it should. It sleeps like it is supposed to and a fully charged battery will last a very long time.
For some reason there comes a point (a day or two after flashing) where I notice the battery dropping faster, and I notice that my awake time is the same as my up time. I've used "Battery Use" and "Spare Parts" in order to try and locate any possible problem.. nothing is showing. The only thing I know is that when the problem starts: Spare Parts -> Other Usage, shows Running @ 100% and when I click on "Running" It says the phone went (however long) without sleep.
Last night I wiped everything and flashed Aloysius 2.0.2.. I decided to monitor it more closely and chose to NOT install ANY apps, just to see if the problem happens. So the phone was sleeping properly all night. I went to sleep and chose NOT to charge it, because it seemed like the problems started when I charged it or plugged it into PC. So I left it unplugged all night. I woke up and saw that it slept the entire night as it should.
I was messing with the phone, couple of emails, couple of text messages, a few phone calls. The phone was at about 14 hours of uptime and 1 hour awake at this point. When I finished with just some calls and text, I left the phone alone while I went outside to do some things. I came back and checked the uptime.. 18 hours and awake time 5.. Phone refused to sleep again.
I shut the phone down, took the battery out for 60 seconds, put battery back in, put cover on, booted phone back up ("power cycling"). Phone has been on for 5 hours now with an awake time of 5 hours. I can't find anything unusual in battery use nor spare parts again. Now the "Other usage" in "spare parts" shows "Running" as 100% with no sleep time, but I can't figure out what is causing it to be constantly "running". I've even gone as far as to shut off all background data, syncing, locations, and even evdo all together. I have tried so many thing and can't figure out why ONLY a WIPE+flash fixes this temporarily?
Sorry for the extremely long post, but does anyone have any ideas or experience similar problems?
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I've been having the same issue with the new 2.1 ROMS as well, for some reason, only a fresh wipe will "temporarliy" solve the issue and after a day or so, 100% awake time, with no apps installed nor A2SD running.
I had the problem. Ended up being Slacker. I have to remember to use the "Exit" button of Slacker or else it never goes to sleep.
What worked for me
Was I would open up Advanced Task Killer, then go to the services tab and hit end all several times. I would keep doing this until the awake time began to drop. Problem was whenever I restarted the phone it would return to the way it was, but after doing this at least half a dozen times it drops the awake time on its own after a restart, so now the awake time hovers at about 6-8% which I think is pretty dern good from 100%.
so
1. Go to ATK (or dw if you dont have)
2. Go To services tab
3.hit "end all"
4. Repeat about 5 times
5. Press the power button to make phone sleep
6. Wake phone back up check awake time in setting
7. Repeat if necessary
also if you have problems dl from the marketplace afterwards, just sign into google talk, and that will set things right.
also your phone will restart all your services every time you end them, so dont be alarmed if you lose your signal and internets for a second or two
i dont know why this worked but it did for me at least
Make sure "GSD.apk" is missing from /system/app. That tends to suck the battery up rather quickly.
amallama said:
Was I would open up Advanced Task Killer, then go to the services tab and hit end all several times. I would keep doing this until the awake time began to drop. Problem was whenever I restarted the phone it would return to the way it was, but after doing this at least half a dozen times it drops the awake time on its own after a restart, so now the awake time hovers at about 6-8% which I think is pretty dern good from 100%.
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Well, After some testing, it appears that my 100% awake BS always starts when I use the dialer and make a call. I got it to go into psycho 100% mode again, even after reboot. I've tried ending all services in the past but I wasn't persistent enough apparently, lol.
At first I tried ending services once, didn't help. Then I went crazy and constantly killed the services over and over for a solid 30-40 second as they opened up again. Eventually I killed ATK and let it sleep, it actually sleeps again.
So... some weird problem with my dialer/phone app (no matter the rom) but at least I found a solution! Thanks amallama.
I think you are simply having a problem with badly programmed apps. It sounds especially suspect that this is happening to you regardless of what rom you are on. Have you installed anything new recently? in the past week I've run into a few apps that have prevented my phone from sleeping (awake time ~89% after 12 hours of uptime).
I deleted fandango and gigbox and awake time and battery life went right back to normal.
Every night, my battery is drained by 7-8% even though, GPS, WiFi, all radios are off and the phone is in airplane mode (done automatically via LLama scripts). I installed GSam Battery Monitor to try to figure out what was going on and it indicated that even though the screen was dark, it was draining the battery (and was the primary culprit). Is this accurate or is it a bug? Anyone else seeing something like this on their Nexus 4?
Mine shows 78% usage in dark.. I think that just means how much of battery total it was used while the phone screen was off. I'm taking a completely random guess here though.
mrlad said:
Every night, my battery is drained by 7-8% even though, GPS, WiFi, all radios are off and the phone is in airplane mode (done automatically via LLama scripts). I installed GSam Battery Monitor to try to figure out what was going on and it indicated that even though the screen was dark, it was draining the battery (and was the primary culprit). Is this accurate or is it a bug? Anyone else seeing something like this on their Nexus 4?
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So you reset the app right before going to bed and checked it first thing in the morning and in the 7 hours you slept, the main battery drain came from the screen?
I use the same app and I never noticed anything wrong. Still, battery readings are not always accurate... sometimes when I recharge my phone, it stays 100%for a few hours, then it drops 7-10% in a matter of an hour...and that's completely normal I say you shouldn't worry about it too much as long as you get satisfying usage times..
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I say you shouldn't worry about it too much as long as you get satisfying usage times..
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I'm not happy w/battery life and trying to track down what the culprit is. If all major services are off at night, 7-8% battery drain doesn't seem normal to me. Granted this is apples and oranges, but my iPad Gen 3 in the same configuration remains at 100% overnight.
If doing nothing drains nearly 10% over 6-7 hours, no surprise I've got issues during the day.
I've noticed the same thing, one time I didnt turn the screen on on my phone, then I went to screen and it showed 0% discharge while screen on, and 7% discharge while off. I'm running the latest version of Viper, I'm also confused and I wonder if theres some issue where maybe power is being sent to the screen even though it's not on.
mrlad said:
I'm not happy w/battery life and trying to track down what the culprit is. If all major services are off at night, 7-8% battery drain doesn't seem normal to me. Granted this is apples and oranges, but my iPad Gen 3 in the same configuration remains at 100% overnight.
If doing nothing drains nearly 10% over 6-7 hours, no surprise I've got issues during the day.
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After my 7 hours sleep.. Every morning my phone uses 2% battery drainage at MAX. i.e.: Wifi Edge Sync etc ALL OFF. And I am getting 4+ screen time on my phone with moderate usage. Pretty happy with the battery life so far.
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mrlad said:
Every night, my battery is drained by 7-8% even though, GPS, WiFi, all radios are off and the phone is in airplane mode (done automatically via LLama scripts). I installed GSam Battery Monitor to try to figure out what was going on and it indicated that even though the screen was dark, it was draining the battery (and was the primary culprit). Is this accurate or is it a bug? Anyone else seeing something like this on their Nexus 4?
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Your phone probably isn't going into sleep. The Nexus 4 seems to be prone to insomnia caused by apps that don't cause a problem on other devices.
To check this download CPU Spy from the play store. Run it, reset timers to zero, and with the phone on battery (i.e. not on charge) let it rest for 30 minutes or so, then check the figures.
You should see Deep Sleep as > 90%, if not, or it is listed as an unused state, your phone isn't sleeping.
To fix this you either work forward or backwards!
Work forward:
Factory reset, install CPU Spy, run the test and see your phone is now deep sleeping.
Start installing applications one by one and after each install, run the app, then run the CPU Spy test again.
Eventually you will find the app causing the problem, all you can do is avoid that app. Note you may have more than one app causing a problem so keep checking after each install.
Work backwards:
Start by un-installing an app at a time restarting your phone in between then running a CPU Spy test. Start with any live wallpapers (even if not set to be used) you have installed, then any weather widgets. Note just un-installing is not enough, you must restart after each one.
Eventually your phone will start deep sleeping again so finding the problem app.
Hope that helps.
Regards
Phil
I tried your advice, and my phone is going into deep sleep around 90% of the time, so I don't think that it's a rogue app. I keep my phone on the dimmest setting at all times, and I only get 2.5 hours of screen on time. I have an anker battery.
PhilipL said:
Hi
Your phone probably isn't going into sleep. The Nexus 4 seems to be prone to insomnia caused by apps that don't cause a problem on other devices.
To check this download CPU Spy from the play store. Run it, reset timers to zero, and with the phone on battery (i.e. not on charge) let it rest for 30 minutes or so, then check the figures.
You should see Deep Sleep as > 90%, if not, or it is listed as an unused state, your phone isn't sleeping.
To fix this you either work forward or backwards!
Work forward:
Factory reset, install CPU Spy, run the test and see your phone is now deep sleeping.
Start installing applications one by one and after each install, run the app, then run the CPU Spy test again.
Eventually you will find the app causing the problem, all you can do is avoid that app. Note you may have more than one app causing a problem so keep checking after each install.
Work backwards:
Start by un-installing an app at a time restarting your phone in between then running a CPU Spy test. Start with any live wallpapers (even if not set to be used) you have installed, then any weather widgets. Note just un-installing is not enough, you must restart after each one.
Eventually your phone will start deep sleeping again so finding the problem app.
Hope that helps.
Regards
Phil
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When keeping my phone on idle during the night, it dropped by around 30%.
I have installed BetterBatteryStats.
The largest user of the battery is "Android OS", according to the battery graph in the settings menu. However, in BBS, the largest partial wakelock is Connectivity Service, which was on for only ~6 minutes.
However, under CPU states, it says that the CPU was idling at 250 MHz for many hours?
This is undoubtedly some sort of phantom battery drain. It has occured for many weeks during the use of the phone.
In addition, with 'Wakelock Detector', it too says that the largest wakelock is usually for around 6 minutes, by Facebook more often that not. However, the total stats say that the phone was awake the entire time, and it has not entered Deep Sleep at all.
I would greatly appreciate your help and tips. Thanks
cald said:
When keeping my phone on idle during the night, it dropped by around 30%.
I have installed BetterBatteryStats.
The largest user of the battery is "Android OS", according to the battery graph in the settings menu. However, in BBS, the largest partial wakelock is Connectivity Service, which was on for only ~6 minutes.
However, under CPU states, it says that the CPU was idling at 250 MHz for many hours?
This is undoubtedly some sort of phantom battery drain. It has occured for many weeks during the use of the phone.
In addition, with 'Wakelock Detector', it too says that the largest wakelock is usually for around 6 minutes, by Facebook more often that not. However, the total stats say that the phone was awake the entire time, and it has not entered Deep Sleep at all.
I would greatly appreciate your help and tips. Thanks
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You could try ds battery saver from Google play i use it and loose about 3% over night 7 hours
Yeah this looks weird.
I'm no BBS expert, but what I would do is, disable everything. Weather widgets and so on, Facebook sync and whatever else you have syncing in the background. Basically make it a dumb phone temporarily by disabling all the stuff you have running.
Then reboot and let it sit for an hour without touching it.
Check BBS again, choose "since boot" and look for partial wakelocks and battery consumption.
If it seems OK, turn something back on, for example add a weather widget and enable Facebook sync again. Don't enable too many things, just one or two! Reboot. Let it sit for an hour without touching it. Check BBS again. If the result now is again worse than it was before, you know that something you just added or enabled is causing the drain.
If everything seems OK, enable something else, whatever it may be - an RSS reader syncing, Instagram, Flipboard, Skype - I don't know what you have on your phone. Reboot and let it sit, check BBS again.
10 hours of WiFi on and WiFi running. There's your phantom drain.
Let me guess, you have scanning enabled in Wifi settings?
jaythenut said:
You could try ds battery saver from Google play i use it and loose about 3% over night 7 hours
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Kiahnlliya said:
Yeah this looks weird.
I'm no BBS expert, but what I would do is, disable everything. Weather widgets and so on, Facebook sync and whatever else you have syncing in the background. Basically make it a dumb phone temporarily by disabling all the stuff you have running.
Then reboot and let it sit for an hour without touching it.
Check BBS again, choose "since boot" and look for partial wakelocks and battery consumption.
If it seems OK, turn something back on, for example add a weather widget and enable Facebook sync again. Don't enable too many things, just one or two! Reboot. Let it sit for an hour without touching it. Check BBS again. If the result now is again worse than it was before, you know that something you just added or enabled is causing the drain.
If everything seems OK, enable something else, whatever it may be - an RSS reader syncing, Instagram, Flipboard, Skype - I don't know what you have on your phone. Reboot and let it sit, check BBS again.
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Thanks for the detailed advice. I'll disable everything, reboot, and then keep it for the night. And I'll install DS Battery Saver.
ShadowLea said:
10 hours of WiFi on and WiFi running. There's your phantom drain.
Let me guess, you have scanning enabled in Wifi settings?
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Nope, I'm afraid not.
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I did as you advised before, disabling everything. The drop over the night was only 10% this time, but this inexplicable drop persists nevertheless.
I had the same thing happening yesterday night. When my phone is drained, I usually charge it in the evening, reboot and then let it sit for about 5-6 hrs with everything except NFC off. Normally, I have a battery drop within those 5-6 hrs of about 1-3%. But yesterday morning after the same procedure, I had lost 30%. I did a reboot then and battery usage went back to normal. So I charged my phone yesterday night and did a reboot, and surely enough I only had 1-3% of battery lost over night. Strange.
Hi,
I've had my RAZR M for about a year and recently the battery life dropped to about half a day even if I rarely use it.
I noticed that "Phone idle" is always one of the top consumers of my battery power with around 30%, followed by "Android OS".
WIFI used to be in there too but I turned that off now unless I need lots of "free" data.
When it runs out of power entirely and I turn it on (after recharging it) it seems to be not using up the battery as quickly until I start using it.
I've got Battery Widget Reborn installed and I switch it to night mode over night. During that time it's losing maybe 5% but things start going down hill as soon as night mode turns off.
Trying to figure it out I installed Wake Lock Detector, which is telling me (right now) that for the past 10h46min, my phone was awake for 40min, the screen was on for 19min and it's been in deep sleep for 10h6min.
I'm not sure what exactly I'm looking for to find what's causing all this and how to fix it so I decided to ask here.
The phone is running Android 4.1.2 with system version 98.21.7.XT905.Telstra.en.AU
Cheers,
Tom
Hey all,
The first time this happened a few days ago I thought it was a fluke, but the problem has now happened twice. Watching youtube with my battery ~7%, the phone froze, and proceeded to reboot itself. Upon turning back on, it showed 6%,. It quickly drained within 5-10 minutes to 0%, and then shut off. Today I was writing a hangouts message with 5% battery left and same thing happens. Phone froze for a few seconds, then force restarted itself. Booted back up and showed 4% battery, then quickly drained to 0% in minutes and turned off. It is weird as the system is turning itself back on, so it realizes the battery isn't actually dead... but the battery is reaching a point where it is low enough to cause the system to meltdown (maybe the OS is throttling itself?)
The first few days I got the phone I also noticed early shutoff, where the phone would actually run out of battery while still displaying 6-8% still remaining. Also frustratingly, when my phone enters "battery saver mode" at 15%, it very often causes my foreground all to refresh itself in RAM, especially if the app has a "dark mode" battery saver option. Not sure if this last bit is normal or not, but it interrupts whatever I am doing.
Any thoughts? The battery life is OK otherwise with 3-4 hours SOT.