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Hi all. Here's the thing. Yesterday i've charge my galaxy (up to about 90%) set up alarm for morning, and going to sleep. In morning my battery was empty, i don't have idea why, because i push power button to "sand-by" on my phone in that night. What's the deal? Stand-up time was about 7h - is there any fix for that, or maybe it's some kind of bug? Oh that was my first stand-by mode for so long time (phone is pretty brand new, about 3 days from purchase)
Few words about phone:
-i9000XXJF5
-no root, flash, and any modyfication
-in phone i have about 20 instaled apps, 4 widgets on
-no task killer
-about 3 days from purchase phone
-home screen set on LauncherPro
Any advise guys?
Sorry for my english.
There must be some app draining your battery. My SGS usually drops only 4% in battery percentage during the night (I turn of 3g at night using SwitchPro, and I'm on JM2).
Have you installed the latest Facebook for Android app? It drains battery a lot because it keeps the phone awake 100% of the time. Uninstall it, or at least Log out from within the app, so that your phone can sleep in idle mode.
Yes... the problems of Android... I use CPUMonitorMini to keep an eye if any apps go rogue and start hitting my CPU 100% and draining my battery dry.
igniztion said:
Have you installed the latest Facebook for Android app? It drains battery a lot because it keeps the phone awake 100% of the time. Uninstall it, or at least Log out from within the app, so that your phone can sleep in idle mode.
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No i don't have this app. Maybe the problem was autosynch option ON.
My new note's battery seem weird after I let it run to 1% and then charge up to 100%.
After that, it seems to lose battery very much faster.
Left overnight, it went from 79% to 49%!! a 30% drop!!
I checked Battery status report battery health is good and average 33-35 degrees temperature.
Bulk of battery usage is reported for Display (62%, "time on" of 1hr 30m) ...
Is this normal??
What can I do?
Thanks.
Maybe the battery needs some recalibration, run it down to 1% then charge the phone while its still off.
Here's the battery level profile...
Not sure what is keeping the phone awake even while screen-off??
Any help or advice to diagnose and resolve the battery issues appreciated.
planetcooler said:
Here's the battery level profile...
Not sure what is keeping the phone awake even while screen-off??
Any help or advice to diagnose and resolve the battery issues appreciated.
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Try a factory reset and then calibrate the battery.
Just woke up after the first night with the Note. I had 45% battery left when i went to bed, and now 9 hours later it's at 43%.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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Not sure what is keeping the phone awake even while screen-off??
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You diagnosed the problem correctly by identifying the device being awake while the screen is off. I suggest two tools to narrow it down:
1. Cpu Spy, Market, free, displays how much time the CPU spent in the different power states. During the night it should almost completely be in deep sleep.
2. BetterBatteryStats, Market, ~2.50$, allows to identify apps with wakelocks, apps which prevent the system to enter the deep sleep power state while the screen is off and the device basically is idleing. On CM Spareparts xan do that for free, for Samsung devices I first have to find a free alternative app that works...
No wipe needed (yet), no delete this or do that. First find the villain, then shoot em, not the other way round.
Sent from my GT-N7000
Installed BetterBatteryStats,
but there is lots of information, and I have little clue what these constitute or how to identify what apps cause the issues??
You could post screenshots of all the screens of betterbatterystats and we will try to help you.
Charge the phone to 100% and disconnect it right before you go to sleep, enter cpuspy and reset its counters. Then enter task manager and kill all the programs and clean the memory. Now go to sleep and when you wake up post screenshots of the built in battery stats, betterbatterystats and cpuspy.
Hi
I have a similar problem, my battery keeps draining entirely too much for what I think it should. Mine gets drained about 40% in about 10 hours of very light use.
BetterBatteryStats shows it is WiFi that has a humongous amount of wakelocks, but the thing here is I have WiFi disabled.
Image (BetterBatteryStats): http://antti.vahtera.org/images/SC20111221-020623.png
CPU Spy shows nothing that looks that weird to me, although I rather wonder why so little deep sleep and so much 200MHz, but that might be if deep sleep has a longer "counter" than it did on SGS/SGS2. If I use the phone to check time, or twitter from a widget couple of times per hour, does SGN enter deep sleep during those "breaks"?
Image (CPU Spy): http://antti.vahtera.org/images/SC20111221-020441.png
But, the one that caught my eye, was the stock Battery Info window. During the (almost) entire 10h time the phone was awake?! Why in the whole wide world? Does SGN really have some bug with WiFi keeping it awake even though it is disabled?
Image (Battery Info -window): http://antti.vahtera.org/images/SC20111221-020744.png
I really wanna get behind this. I love this phone, but this battery drainage begins to be a problem for me. I got about 2-5% drain per night with SGS2 and 10-15% per day on similar usage.
AnttiV said:
Hi
I have a similar problem, my battery keeps draining entirely too much for what I think it should. Mine gets drained about 40% in about 10 hours of very light use.
BetterBatteryStats shows it is WiFi that has a humongous amount of wakelocks, but the thing here is I have WiFi disabled.
Image (BetterBatteryStats): http://antti.vahtera.org/images/SC20111221-020623.png
CPU Spy shows nothing that looks that weird to me, although I rather wonder why so little deep sleep and so much 200MHz, but that might be if deep sleep has a longer "counter" than it did on SGS/SGS2. If I use the phone to check time, or twitter from a widget couple of times per hour, does SGN enter deep sleep during those "breaks"?
Image (CPU Spy): http://antti.vahtera.org/images/SC20111221-020441.png
But, the one that caught my eye, was the stock Battery Info window. During the (almost) entire 10h time the phone was awake?! Why in the whole wide world? Does SGN really have some bug with WiFi keeping it awake even though it is disabled?
Image (Battery Info -window): http://antti.vahtera.org/images/SC20111221-020744.png
I really wanna get behind this. I love this phone, but this battery drainage begins to be a problem for me. I got about 2-5% drain per night with SGS2 and 10-15% per day on similar usage.
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yeah, there's something seriously wrong with your phone. Are you rooted ? would you consider a full wipe and maybe a different ROM ?
Not rooted, not modified in any serious way either. (Using GO Launcher EX, not TouchWiz launcher, that's really the extend of modification on this phone.)
Android version is 2.3.6, Baseband N7000XXKK5, kernel 2.6.35.7-N7000XBKK4
This is what was shipped with the phone. It's unbranded and unlocked.
I haven't really done anything to it but installed apps from Android Market (and a couple with Samsung Apps).
EDIT: This is my day-to-day phone with all settings as I like them and all things set, so I would like if I wouldn't have to do a full wipe. But if nothing else helps, I guess I'll have to, in the end.
I hope someone will be able to help you cause I've never seen anything like that.
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This might help...
I had the same problem. The first night my Note was dropping from 100% down to about 50% when I was asleep and the screen was off.
In the battery stats I could see that it was the Android core that used all this power.
So I tried a couple things to see if it helped:
1) I went to WiFi-settings and set it to turn off WiFi when screen off. This is a setting that is not on by default, you have to set it yourself.
2) I turned off AutoSync (Google account and so on)
Those to settings removed the overnight powerdrain problem. The next night it only went from 100% to about 98% when I slept
And since I am a serious betterysaver I also turned off autolight on screen, and set it to lowest light possible (still nice picture). I turned on the "Autoadjust screenpower), turned off all animations, turned off all kind of vibrations on the phone.
I left the"System powersetting" alone. It didnt save much power and it made the phone slower.
All in all, now my battery is great, I still have lot of juice left after a full day of using my Galaxy Note
I seem to have fixed my problem, without having to do a full wipe. I don't know which part it was that finally did it, but I'm glad it now behaves like I think it should. (about 2% battery drain in ~5h in pocket, one 1min phonecall and two or three times checking time from lockscreen.)
Anyway, I apparently ALSO had the infamous problem with Mediaserver eating humongous amounts of battery, so I'm not sure if that had anything to do with the WiFi keeping it awake or was just a separate problem.
Long story short, here's what I did:
a) installed JuiceDefender, had it manage Wifi
b) turned Wifi on, restart
c) turned Wifi off, restart
[d) installed nomedia manager and excluded most directories from mediascanner]
e) turned phone off, recharged to 100%.
Seems to be working now. No WiFi wakelocks, no mediaserver eating CPU, deep sleep ~70% of the time.
Prior to ICS my tf101 would last a good 3-4 days on a fully charged battery with my normal usage during the week. Yesterday I installed ICS went to sleep with just over 50%, it had suffered some heavy usage yesterday, and woke up to a completely flat and switched off tablet this morning. This is very unusual performance for my tab.
When I installed ICS I did a factory reset to clean up my tab so only have a pinch of the apps I had previously installed. One thing I did notice is on the battery tab of system settings the tablet was awake 100% of the time were traditionally it would only have a blue mark were it was in use on the awake line. Battery usage data is unavailable, too, so cant see what is causing tablet not to sleep.
Any suggestions?
I would wait until it settles a bit more, plus wait for a custom rom. It probably has some bug, seeing as it is the first ICS for our device.
I also notice some battery drain last week
on HC and ICS
right now i reverted back to honeycomb
ill update you later
if anything changes to me
MyZine Widget
Got rid of the MyZine widget and my tablet now goes to sleep in standby. I noticed, when browsing the running apps list, that the app kept 'restarting' so it could buggy or at the least was having a problem with my tab.
Prior to ICS my battery drain was crazy, especially if I leave wifi on. Not anymore, it's back to normal consumption like I had before the last HC firmware update.
I had the same problem this morning.
take cpu spy to have a look if the tablet goes into depp sleep.
https://market.android.com/details?...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5idmFsb3Nlay5jcHVzcHkiXQ..
i had to reboot and then everything was fine...
I've still got problems with my tab. Returned to it after a few hours non-use and it had shutdown itself. Battery Drain still seems an issue too. I'll install that app and see what it reports.
Check WiFi disconnection policy and if GPS is disbled.
Here I am trying to get answers to exactly the op's problem. Everything went smooth installing ics. Even wiped data.
Woke up this morning to a very dead battery. Went to sleep at 83%. Interestingly, the battery graph show nothing after about 80%. No indication on the graph of total discharge...and no app usage. Just straight from 80 to zero.
I can't determine if it's a hung app or what....I've installed almost nothing. And it looks like the tablet drained while it was OFF!
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t0gmko26t7wj41m/fIty0T1ySi/Screenshot_2012-02-25-07-56-17.jpg
Sorry for the link....I could not get the damn picture posted for the life of me...despite 45 minutes worth of my time.
i also woke up to a dead battery this morning. it was 50%+ when i left it on standby, wifi & gps switched off. i would have expected minimal drain on HC.
Balor said:
Prior to ICS my tf101 would last a good 3-4 days on a fully charged battery with my normal usage during the week. Yesterday I installed ICS went to sleep with just over 50%, it had suffered some heavy usage yesterday, and woke up to a completely flat and switched off tablet this morning. This is very unusual performance for my tab.
When I installed ICS I did a factory reset to clean up my tab so only have a pinch of the apps I had previously installed. One thing I did notice is on the battery tab of system settings the tablet was awake 100% of the time were traditionally it would only have a blue mark were it was in use on the awake line. Battery usage data is unavailable, too, so cant see what is causing tablet not to sleep.
Any suggestions?
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Try this
Go to settings /WiFi /click three dots in upper right corner/Advanced/ uncheck keep wifi on during sleep.
go to recently used apps and close all ( swipe to right)
put tab to sleep for a while
Come back and turn on.
go to settings
battery
tap grey battery level graph to expand
check individual bars to see what was on and off.
Looks liks some apps are keepi9ng WiFi and GPS on and draining battery.
It would be really nice in future update to have a setting like below:
Setting
Sleep setting
On screen off close all apps except ( here you get to choose apps to leave open)
I'm glad I am not the only one with battery drain issues. I thought I was doing something wrong.
Several days ago I charged my dock and tablet fully. I then turned off the tablet, closed the lid and didn't use it for a few days, when I went to run it again it was totally dead. I would have expected it to at least hold something of a charge in a completely off state.
Yesterday I left the tablet and dock on but just turned the screen off and again this morning had a drained dock.
Just seems like no matter how I try to settle on a way I still see more of a drain than I would have expected.
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Rumbleweed said:
Try this
Go to settings /WiFi /click three dots in upper right corner/Advanced/ uncheck keep wifi on during sleep.
go to recently used apps and close all ( swipe to right)
put tab to sleep for a while
Come back and turn on.
go to settings
battery
tap grey battery level graph to expand
check individual bars to see what was on and off.
Looks liks some apps are keepi9ng WiFi and GPS on and draining battery.
It would be really nice in future update to have a setting like below:
Setting
Sleep setting
On screen off close all apps except ( here you get to choose apps to leave open)
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I will have to take a look at that setting myself and see what is up with it.
Yes, it would nice to have a sleep setting button for some helpful settings.
Have there been any firmware updates for the dock itself, or is that not possible?
I'm having the same issue dock was at 80% last night get up this morning and it's at 6%. I set wifi to off during sleep to see if that helps any.
dmazyn said:
I'm having the same issue dock was at 80% last night get up this morning and it's at 6%. I set wifi to off during sleep to see if that helps any.
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Have to close apps that are keeping stuff on. Look at permissions. More and more are adding "prevent "Function X off during sleep."
As soon as I got the update installed I turned GPS off and set WiFi to never sleep, woke up this morning to only 4% battery drain. The tablet went 12 hours and went from 40% to 36%, i also had apps open...
apps open: engadget, camera, browser, gmail, market and settings..
no battery drain yet, updated yesterday and only 5% drain during the night with apps open
Help!
Same problem here. I noticed high battery drain yesterday and didn't think to leave it plugged in.
This morning, it wouldn't turn back on! I've left it plugged in in case the battery drained too far and will try to turn it on later on.
With HC, the power button was buggy (had to press really hard) and seemed that that went away with ICS (well except for now). Don't know if this is related.
Same issues with me. Except my tablet won't wake up when I push the power button. I have to hold and reset it. Here is the kicker: I will get a 20% power drain over 9 hours on top of it. So not only does my tablet not turn on after it being asleep, but I get a power drain as well!
My Settings: Stock ICS off a completely reformatted device, Keep Wi-Fi on only when plugged in, screen timeout is 1 minute and MobileDock Battery Saving mode is on. My battery usage indicator does not work... I have to get the very basic info from my battery widget.
Very disappointed! This was the one thing I wanted fixed the most. I hated using the airplane mode app. It severely affected performance.
zillah1985 said:
Same issues with me. Except my tablet won't wake up when I push the power button. I have to hold and reset it. Here is the kicker: I will get a 20% power drain over 9 hours on top of it. So not only does my tablet not turn on after it being asleep, but I get a power drain as well!
My Settings: Stock ICS off a completely reformatted device, Keep Wi-Fi on only when plugged in, screen timeout is 1 minute and MobileDock Battery Saving mode is on. My battery usage indicator does not work... I have to get the very basic info from my battery widget.
Very disappointed! This was the one thing I wanted fixed the most. I hated using the airplane mode app. It severely affected performance.
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Maybe we are all having the random reboot problem.
It makes sense if you think about it.. Mine would randomly go into reboot in sleep and the device would get stuck on the Asus loading screen. So when the device cycle through the loading screen for an entire night, you would find a dead tablet by the morning.
So far, I have encountered 2 random reboots, the only way to bring the device out of the boot screen is to hard reset it by holding down the power button.
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balor you most likely got better battery due to custom rom
custom roms tweaked the battery for couple days use.. asus claimed like 9 hours on the tablet.. and like 19 with dock keyboard. custom ics roms inc
Hello
I have a samsung s4 i9500 new phone about 4 months old. I encoutered many battery problems so i installed Arrow rom, which i fell in love with it in a sec, it had everything and the battery life was just amazing. (Thanks to all who contributed into making this amazing rom).
But something happened when i installed an app about adds and it kinda restored my phone yo factory settings, i didnt care much for the reset, but i found out that my battery life ia no longer like before. Let me give you my states before and after.
Ps: i reinstalled the rom hoping better resulta but it was the same
I sleep usually at 1pm and wake up at 10. Thats 9 hours, when my phone was fine it only drained about 10% or 12%.
But as in for today for example, i slept 7 hours and it drained 20%.
Most of the draining came from android oa at 89%.
Please note that before i go to sleep i always charge my phone to 100%
Is there something wrong? Ill do any test to solve mu problem.
Thanks all
Ali Omran said:
Hello
I have a samsung s4 i9500 new phone about 4 months old. I encoutered many battery problems so i installed Arrow rom, which i fell in love with it in a sec, it had everything and the battery life was just amazing. (Thanks to all who contributed into making this amazing rom).
But something happened when i installed an app about adds and it kinda restored my phone yo factory settings, i didnt care much for the reset, but i found out that my battery life ia no longer like before. Let me give you my states before and after.
Ps: i reinstalled the rom hoping better resulta but it was the same
I sleep usually at 1pm and wake up at 10. Thats 9 hours, when my phone was fine it only drained about 10% or 12%.
But as in for today for example, i slept 7 hours and it drained 20%.
Most of the draining came from android oa at 89%.
Please note that before i go to sleep i always charge my phone to 100%
Is there something wrong? Ill do any test to solve mu problem.
Thanks all
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Hi.
U should install BBS app and post "other" and "partial wakelocks" screenshots so that we can tell what's eating up yr battery life.
Cheers.
deep sleep!
Yeah BBS is definitely the way to go..also you might want to check skipjack's awesome thread for better batt life when idle (insanely )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357417
I got better batt life with my s4 after i did some of their tips on this thread..
Sweetdreams to your phone's battery! ))
I have attached my files, btw the battery is kinda weird, one day it drained about 40% but somedays drains way less, keep in mind that when i go to sleep i turn off my wifi and use edge network, and power savor too.
Some solutions that I follow that kind of stopped severe battery drain and got the phone in deep sleep mode:
- Disable "Scanning Always Available" from Advanced settings of WiFi
- Disable GPS and 'Use Wireless Networks' from Location settings menu
- Greenify apps and a few services
- Before putting the phone down for good, clear all the recently opened apps by pressing and holding the HOME button and clearing them all. Then open up the task manager and clear RAM.
- To get the phone into deep sleep (you can monitor this using a free app called WakeLock detector, available on PlayStore), if you have the habit of switching on the screen and then switching it off whilst being in the lockscreen mode (just like you check time quickly without unlocking the device), the S4 DOES NOT go into deep sleep mode even though the screen is switched off.
To solve this, you need to unlock the screen, get to homescreen and switch off screen from there instead of directly locking/switching off the screen without unlocking the device. Yes, it's hell and I don't know why this issue persists :/
I have a new Samsung S4. Trying to learn how best to configure it to minimise battery usage and to ensure I don't install apps that eat battery. There's nothing wrong with it, battery usage is fine, just trying to get the best out of it; whilst keeping as much functionality as possible without having to constantly turn things on and off. I'm trying to avoid rooting it.
As a starting point, I'm checking usage overnight, when blocking mode and power saving are on, with wi-fi and data off; but with the alarm clock set.
I have an i-onik 7.85" tablet on Android 4.2.2 - with a deep sleep battery saver app set to slumberer ("always deep sleep when screen off") it only uses about 2% of battery overnight - the battery currently holds about 3600 mAh - so that 3% equates to 108mAh.
First time I tested my Samsung S4 (the european LTE version 9505), (actually I think I had wifi, data, location setting turned on and power saving turned off), it used 4% battery overnight. Not bad, 4% of 2600 mAh is 104 mAh. Still I thought I might do better. I tried the deep sleep app on slumberer but inexplicably the usage then jumped to 12% (whereas it at least halves battery usage on my tablet). I've since un-installed deep sleep battery saver and started turning off wi-fi, data, and turning on power saving - so I'd expect it to use 4% or less battery overnight.
The actual battery usage instead increased to around 9% to 12% - although the settings used might have varied.
Three nights ago I made sure that all apps were closed, and everything turned off as above - battery usage overnight was still 9%. I used WakeLock Detector and found that a Morrisons App was causing wakelocks. I uninstalled that, and the next night the battery usages was down to 6% with much fewer wakelocks. Still not as good as before though.
I then found there were wakelocks due hotmail and gmail sync - hotmail I changed from push sync to sync every 4 hours, gmail I changed from hourly sync to manual sync and I also turned off master sync. I also turned off location setting. That cleared the wakelocks for these apps, but battery usage last night had increased to 9%.
So, despite the same settings and less wakelocks (and it was in deep sleep all night except for 16 minutes), battery usage increased from 6% to 9% - still no where near the 4% I had at the start despite making various changes that should reduce battery consumption.
The only significant wakelocks last night were:
com.domobile.applock (via alarmManager) awake 35s giving 992 cpu wakelocks
com.google.android.google (google app) 7 wakeups
Can anyone think of any cause for increased battery usage from 6% to 9% despite more time in deepsleep, less wakelocks (other than the 2 above but there were many more wakelocks the night before lasting several minutes) and location setting turned off. I wonder about starting again from a factory reset ... NB every night before going to bed I've rebooted the phone, and charged it to between 90% and 96% and it's been tested over the same period of time. Is it normal for battery usage when the phone is sleeping to vary so much?
Charging the battery inconsistently might lower the battery life. And letting it discharge to much does the same. I generally avoid letting it go under 50% and unplugging it before 100%.
I don't know what causes your issues, but if you want full control over your phone, you will have to root.
I also had 2% drain over night at some point, but now I have 4%. But this may also be rom related.
Thanks. I'm on stock ROM. I have rooted other devices but then find some apps don't work, and of course I want to maintain my warranty.
Each day my battery is generally dropping to about 30% at which point I charge it up to between 90% and 95% before turning turning most things off ready for bed.
At some point I may leave it plugged in overnight instead - is that a bad thing?
What do you mean by charging inconsistently? Sometimes my battery may be around 50% though more often around 30% when I start it charging.
apwood said:
Thanks. I'm on stock ROM. I have rooted other devices but then find some apps don't work, and of course I want to maintain my warranty.
Each day my battery is generally dropping to about 30% at which point I charge it up to between 90% and 95% before turning turning most things off ready for bed.
At some point I may leave it plugged in overnight instead - is that a bad thing?
What do you mean by charging inconsistently? Sometimes my battery may be around 50% though more often around 30% when I start it charging.
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By charging inconsistently I mean exactly what you said. You charge between 90 and 95% generally, instead of leaving it to charge 100%.
Somebody said that if you live in the EU you will not lose your consumer rights. I guess that includes the right to have your phone repaired because it is in warranty. Other people have reported that the phone service accepted and repaired their phone even though it had knox flag 0x1.
There isn't much you can do on stock unrooted roms in order to reduce battery consumption.
You battery drain is probably caused by weak signal strength. Having bad signal uses more battery. The screen and the phone radio use the most power on the phone. If you put our phone in airplane mode there should be almost no battery loss. If everything is turned off.
On my old device I used to put in airplane mode during the night. I had 0% drain over night in airplane mode.
GDReaper said:
By charging inconsistently I mean exactly what you said. You charge between 90 and 95% generally, instead of leaving it to charge 100%.
Somebody said that if you live in the EU you will not lose your consumer rights. I guess that includes the right to have your phone repaired because it is in warranty. Other people have reported that the phone service accepted and repaired their phone even though it had knox flag 0x1.
There isn't much you can do on stock unrooted roms in order to reduce battery consumption.
You battery drain is probably caused by weak signal strength. Having bad signal uses more battery. The screen and the phone radio use the most power on the phone. If you put our phone in airplane mode there should be almost no battery loss. If everything is turned off.
On my old device I used to put in airplane mode during the night. I had 0% drain over night in airplane mode.
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Thanks - that's a good point about signal - my mobile signal and wi-fi signal does seem to vary, so that could contribute to fluctuating battery usage. I decided to test that by using airplane mode and have started charging to 100% on your advice. Unfortunately when trying to dismiss the prompt to upgrade to lollipop, I accidentally started the upgrade, with no way to cancel it. (For me, lollipop really seems a downgrade, I've lost a lot of functionality I used all the time in KitKat).
The bad news it that on lollipop overnight last night, despite using power saving mode and airplane mode, and basically everything else off including sync, it lost 7% of battery.
So I decided to do a factory reset, thinking it would go back to KitKat - but it didn't - it stayed on lollipop. It did give me the option to choose which extra apps to install (including some Samsung ones) - I declined to install any extra apps, and also turned off automatic app updates - I then turned off sync, backup and anything else that I thought might eat battery - leaving the phone with the most basic set up possible. I've not since installed any apps except Talk2Go.
The good news it that since the "factory reset" to lollipop, I've tested it for two periods of 4.5 hours on airplane mode, everything off, and I did not turn on power saving mode. The battery lost less than 1% - in fact for my last test it stayed at 100%. So either the reset fixed battery loss on lollipop, or the power saving mode was actually causing battery loss!
I'll investigate that and report back for the benefit of other users. I'll then gradually update my settings and see what, if anything causes battery usage to increase when on airplane mode. Of course it's also possible that battery usage might increase without changing anything, as per some reports from those upgraded to Lollipop - if so I'll report on that - and confirm if a reset seems fixes it.
Lollipop is supposed to have a battery saver mode - but it seems to be missing in the stock OTA update to S4 - does anyone know how to use this mode? It sounds better than Samsung's own power saving mode (especially since that might actually be causing battery drain rather than saving battery!)
apwood said:
Thanks - that's a good point about signal - my mobile signal and wi-fi signal does seem to vary, so that could contribute to fluctuating battery usage. I decided to test that by using airplane mode and have started charging to 100% on your advice. Unfortunately when trying to dismiss the prompt to upgrade to lollipop, I accidentally started the upgrade, with no way to cancel it. (For me, lollipop really seems a downgrade, I've lost a lot of functionality I used all the time in KitKat).
The bad news it that on lollipop overnight last night, despite using power saving mode and airplane mode, and basically everything else off including sync, it lost 7% of battery.
So I decided to do a factory reset, thinking it would go back to KitKat - but it didn't - it stayed on lollipop. It did give me the option to choose which extra apps to install (including some Samsung ones) - I declined to install any extra apps, and also turned off automatic app updates - I then turned off sync, backup and anything else that I thought might eat battery - leaving the phone with the most basic set up possible. I've not since installed any apps except Talk2Go.
The good news it that since the "factory reset" to lollipop, I've tested it for two periods of 4.5 hours on airplane mode, everything off, and I did not turn on power saving mode. The battery lost less than 1% - in fact for my last test it stayed at 100%. So either the reset fixed battery loss on lollipop, or the power saving mode was actually causing battery loss!
I'll investigate that and report back for the benefit of other users. I'll then gradually update my settings and see what, if anything causes battery usage to increase when on airplane mode. Of course it's also possible that battery usage might increase without changing anything, as per some reports from those upgraded to Lollipop - if so I'll report on that - and confirm if a reset seems fixes it.
Lollipop is supposed to have a battery saver mode - but it seems to be missing in the stock OTA update to S4 - does anyone know how to use this mode? It sounds better than Samsung's own power saving mode (especially since that might actually be causing battery drain rather than saving battery!)
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Samsung probably replaced the stock lollipop battery saver with their own battery saver.
You could return to kitkat by flashing via Odin. Doing so will not give you knox status 0x1 and you don't even need root.
On second thought, you have the new bootloader so you probably won't be able to do it without tripping knox..
From what I saw, battery saver changes only the minimum screen brightness to a lower value than normal and it changes the CPU governor to a more battery friendly one.
This is what I observed on the GPE rom battery saver mode.
Testing continues - for the first few nights battery drain was less than 2% on airplane mode, but it wasn't repeated last night. It drained 9% with exactly the same settings (ie everything off except the alarm clock, no foreground processes running and airplane mode on).
I've installed a few apps - one from TalkTalk, one from Three Mobile, a terminal emulator and wakelocks detector. So have now uinstalled the first 2 to see if they are causing the drain - BUT I suspect it's a bug in this release of Android Lollipop.
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Testing continues - for the first few nights battery drain was less than 2% on airplane mode, but it wasn't repeated last night. It drained 9% with exactly the same settings (ie everything off except the alarm clock, no foreground processes running and airplane mode on).
I've installed a few apps - one from TalkTalk, one from Three Mobile, a terminal emulator and wakelocks detector. So have now uinstalled the first 2 to see if they are causing the drain - BUT I suspect it's a bug in this release of Android Lollipop.
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Many people have problems with the stock lollipop. Samsung messed up.
It might also be the battery. I have my phone since november. My battery used to drain 2% over night. Now it drains 4% over night. Basically it drains very fast to 96%, from there it drains normaly, depending on the usage. This happens on every rom I tried and with even the most battery oriented settings.
You seem to be using applock. If you don't need it you can delete it and get rid of a few wakelocks.