Questions xt1265 Prime - Moto G4 Questions & Answers

Hi everyone,
I have the Moto G4 xt1625 Amazon Prime variation. Nevertheless, I took the regular steps to receive the unlock code on Motorola Website and they simply sent it to me. No idea if the fact that I live outside US and / or that my carrier is, obviously, from outside US had anything to do with it or if I was just lucky. I got the code, but I still never used it, which means I have the stock 6.0.1 android.
Now on to my questions:
1-My build number is MPJ24.139-64. What does that really means? I see people discussing this everywhere, some are 65. What difference does each build have?
2-I never heard of Firmware when speaking of mobiles. I always heard/changed the OS, but now you guys are changing firmware and OS. How do I know which firmware I have? How do I get the latest one?
3-Since I have the unlock code for the boot loader, does it virtually means I have a regular xt1625 Moto G4? I mean, as of now I still have the adds, but should I opt to unlock the boot loader and say flash CM 14.1 it would be the same as non Prime xt1625 or does the Prime version have other differences (build, firmware, etc)?
4-Can Moto G4 use the same ROMs as Moto G4 Plus? I've seen different answers regarding this matter. Would I have to flash base bands and/or soak test?
5-Is CM 14.1 (cm-14.1-20161225-NIGHTLY-athene.zip) the latest AOSP ROM for Moto G4?
Thank you in advance for your help and time! =]
Andre

Anyone? ^^

Maybe i can help you
1- This is like the version of firmware, or OS if you want to call like this way, (correct me if i am wrong)
2- Firware and OS are the same, i guess. Better call it ROM
3- Yes, the same. But i have the prime version locked so i cant tell you with 100% of security
4- Yes and no. the board is the same thing, you can install it but maybe you have problems like heat (not so much, of course)(because moto g+ have the cores boosted to 100%, and moto g non plus have 4 to 100% and 4 energy saver cores.)
5- NIGHTLY is a buggy software, this is not the software 100% tested. Maybe you have to wait a SNAPSHOT. This is more secure
Sorry for my English. I speak spanish better <3s

Thank you!!
What about the Indian 7.0 ROM? Can we install it without problems?

engandresr said:
Thank you!!
What about the Indian 7.0 ROM? Can we install it without problems?
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If you have unlocked the bootloader of course! Yes!
But maybe you want to make a backup of everything before!
I will recommend to you wait until the official software for your smartpone arrive..
For some reason Motorola has not released it, maybe the Indian 7.0 is buggy and they are just testing with india...
But you can try without problems!
PD: Remember when i said without problems, Problems may appear like overheating, WiFi problems, etc etc. But you can have a taste of nougat! Just search a little, i know people who have Nougat in theirs XT1625, and is working "well" (overheating againg)
try this
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/development/moto-g4-india-official-nougat-7-0-ota-t3533078

Hi,
I'm not a newbie here, but I think I can help u with some info since I have the same amz prime unlocked bootloader
Now on to my questions:
1-My build number is MPJ24.139-64. What does that really means? I see people discussing this everywhere, some are 65. What difference does each build have?
This is the latest build, that it's available for this phone version, this FW is the one that I had before I moved to RR.
2-I never heard of Firmware when speaking of mobiles. I always heard/changed the OS, but now you guys are changing firmware and OS. How do I know which firmware I have? How do I get the latest one?
FW es the specific version of a OS, the one that's meant to be on your phone
3-Since I have the unlock code for the boot loader, does it virtually means I have a regular xt1625 Moto G4? I mean, as of now I still have the adds, but should I opt to unlock the boot loader and say flash CM 14.1 it would be the same as non Prime xt1625 or does the Prime version have other differences (build, firmware, etc)?
Unlocking the bootloader means that it can support non official software, a custom recovery and after that you can root it, install a custom rom or mostly anything that you can think. But it still an specific branch oh the moto g4 the prime edition. So you can install Nougat from a TWRP, but not directly as an update or any other procedure
4-Can Moto G4 use the same ROMs as Moto G4 Plus? I've seen different answers regarding this matter. Would I have to flash base bands and/or soak test?
The moto G4 plus uses the same Hardware, custom roms can be used in any of those, not official roms
5-Is CM 14.1 (cm-14.1-20161225-NIGHTLY-athene.zip) the latest AOSP ROM for Moto G4?
CM is now gone, the new version of it would be Lineage OS, I personally use Resurrection Remix as my daily driver, it has TONS of customizations and it tells you whenever an update it's available.
Be carefeul with installing anything on your phone just have always a recovery back up in the micro sd and on a usb o pc available in case anything went wrong.
Hope this could help
Pardon my english.

omaktl said:
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Thank you for this! Also very helpful!

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Feburary Soak Test

So I just got a email for a soak test, wonder if it would block sunshine again. Luckily I already unlocked by mine.
zys52712 said:
So I just got a email for a soak test, wonder if it would block sunshine again. Luckily I already unlocked by mine.
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A further reminder to spend the money for sunshine now if you have any desire for an unlocked bootloader. Do not cry here if you take this soak or the ota and can't unlock if you had the opportunity to do so now.
Interesting. Maybe they'll throw us a bone and actually give us some security patches besides the one that stops Sunshine from working.
$10 says it's just a security patch rushed out to block Sunshine. So, EVERYBODY will now rush to install it before unlocking their bootloader.
Motorola Droid Turbo to receive Soak Test; could a surprise Nougat update be on the way?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...-surprise-Nougat-update-be-on-the-way_id91284
If you own the DROID Turbo, don't get your hopes up too high. These type of surprises rarely ever happen. Additionally, the fact that Motorola wants to rush this Soak Test probably means that the update contains something less earth shattering than a new Android build. Instead, it might offer a few bug fixes or the latest Google security patch.
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koftheworld said:
A further reminder to spend the money for sunshine now if you have any desire for an unlocked bootloader. Do not cry here if you take this soak or the ota and can't unlock if you had the opportunity to do so now.
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If we already have bought/used sunshine is there any need to redownload and use it again before/after taking the OTA?
5538dcf5 said:
If we already have bought/used sunshine is there any need to redownload and use it again before/after taking the OTA?
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If your xt1254 (Verizon Droid turbo) has an unlocked bootloader via the sunshine app before now, then you are safe and it is not necessary to purchase sunshine again.
It is best practice not to take OTA's ever, if you prefer having root access to your phone.
RL_Wells said:
If your xt1254 (Verizon Droid turbo) has an unlocked bootloader via the sunshine app before now, then you are safe and it is not necessary to purchase sunshine again.
It is best practice not to take OTA's ever, if you prefer having root access to your phone.
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Right. That doesn't mean you can't ever install UPDATES. Just wait until the stupid people take the OTA, see what it does.
Then the update will be posted here in XDA -- in many places and you can install them manually. Like the 6.0.1 Marshmallow firmware update. It's posted here in XDA as:
the full raw update,
a TWRP flashable version, (flashed with RSD or fastboot)
and was turned into a debloated, tweaked ROM version.
All which could be installed by people with unlocked bootloaders. The latter two could be installed via TWRP custom recovery.
There was never any reason to take the unknown OTA from Verizon, and never will be a reason to do so. If an OTA from Verizon is useful in any way, many, many versions will be posted here with expert commentary on what it does, how to install it. Early version of the 6.0.1 Marshmallow OTA bricked Droid Turbos which were encrypted. Verizon/Motorola stopped the OTA for several days. There's NEVER any reason to be the guinea pig for Verizon's incompetence. It's not like they didn't have enough time to test the firmware! The XT1225 got the SAME Marshmallow back in July 2016.
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Right. That doesn't mean you can't ever install UPDATES. Just wait until the stupid people take the OTA, see what it does.
Then the update will be posted here in XDA -- in many places and you can install them manually. Like the 6.0.1 Marshmallow firmware update. It's posted here in XDA as:
the full raw update,
a TWRP flashable version, (flashed with RSD or fastboot)
and was turned into a debloated, tweaked ROM version.
All which could be installed by people with unlocked bootloaders. The latter two could be installed via TWRP custom recovery.
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Question about the debloated, tweaked ROM version...what difference will I notice versus stock? Is there anything that doesn't work in the ROM?
Everytime sunshine finds an exploit that unlocks Droid Turbo's bootloader Verizon gives us a new update..
Coincidence? I think not.
Dabrador said:
Question about the debloated, tweaked ROM version...what difference will I notice versus stock? Is there anything that doesn't work in the ROM?
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It's gotten enthusiastic reviews from users, but would be better for you to go to that link and read the op (first post) and then read the last few pages of comments. Not all the pages, but at least the last 5 or 6.
A couple of us already told you about it in the other thread:
ChazzMatt said:
I know you don't want a "ROM", but you might consider ComputerFreak274's stock-based ROM. It's just de-bloated, tweaked stock Verizon Motorola Marshmallow firmware. Has audio boost and some other stuff too -- battery tweaks, speed tweaks, cache tweaks, etc.
If you are a Verizon user, right now this is the only "ROM" that lets you keep VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling on Verizon.
You can still install Xposed with this, he tells you how to do it in his op.
I'm on Resurrection Remix Marshmallow myself, so I'm not suggesting it because I use it (I have XT1225, not XT1254). I'm suggesting it because it's basically stock firmware the way Verizon/Motorola should have released it. It's a "ROM" for XT1254 Verizon users who don't want full custom ROMs.
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Claps1775 said:
Only xposed I have install is the YouTube add block . I have gravity box for other tweaks. I am on CFs ( ComputerFreak274) 1.06 mm ROM. I like his work. Check it out.
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Has anyone taken the Feb soak? Anything interesting?
Just got it, it's only a security update. You can check the Droid Turbo Reddit for confirmation, a user there has the same results.
Confirmed by Verizon: https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/droid-turbo-update/
Also, I'm downloading it now, and I'm not part of the soak test. I'll capture the OTA and post it shortly.
Alienite said:
Just got it, it's only a security update. You can check the Droid Turbo Reddit for confirmation, a user there has the same results.
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A "security update" to block Sunshine? [emoji14]
Now that Sunshine unlocks 6.0.1 bootloader?
Figured as much. The people speculating Nougat were delusional. Lenovo/Motorola hasn't even given all the Quarks Marshmallow yet.
My response to a post from this morning in another thread, but relevant to this discussion...
cod3name47 said:
Any idea about nougat update for Moto Maxx?
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Nougat? Motorola hasn't even released stock Marshmallow for all the Moto Maxx phones yet! The U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 (clone of the XT1254 Droid Turbo in every way -- FCC ID, radio bands) is still on 5.0.2 Lollipop!
None of the Quarks are on the Motorola Nougat list, which was released months ago by Motorola/Lenovo. Would be very unusual to give an unannounced Noguat 7.X update, since Motorola/Lenovo seems to want to do less work -- not more -- regarding updates to their customers.
Motorola announced Marshmallow for Quarks October 2, 2015. WHEN did they deliver it?
XT1225 Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo got it in July 2016 (9 months later),
Took Motorola until December 2016 (13 months) to actually give it to the Droid Turbo XT1254 --
U.S. Moto Maxx still does not have Marshmallow (16 months and counting).
If you want Nougat, unlock your bootloader and flash any of the custom Nougat 7.X ROM we have available. Here's the current custom Nougat (7.x) Quark ROMs to choose from.
[ROM][All Quark][7.x] Resurrection Remix
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]AOKP 7.x For All Quark
[ROM][Quarks][LOS/CM 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2016-12-30] (hybrid of CM14 and Resurrection Remix)
[ROM][7.1][All quark] crDroid Android
[ROM][7.1.1_r9][OFFICIAL] AospExtended ROM V3.1 [OMS/DUI][quark]
OTA posted. https://forum.xda-developers.com/dr.../ota-marshmallow-build-mcg24-251-5-5-t3565697
Hahahhahaha I know they are lazy....Motorola was good untill it was solo company!!! Lenovo ruined it!!
they won't keep us current, but they can bang out an update to patch sunshine, WTF? it's like they want to say FU to us for using this phone..
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they won't keep us current, but they can bang out an update to patch sunshine, WTF? it's like they want to say FU to us for using this phone..
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Well to be fair, the android security patch version is now dated January 2017, so at least there's that.
Also, at long last, we are finally protected from the Stagefright vulnerability :laugh:
DD?
ChazzMatt said:
A "security update" to block Sunshine? [emoji14]
If you want Nougat, unlock your bootloader and flash any of the custom Nougat 7.X ROM we have available. Here's the current custom Nougat (7.x) Quark ROMs to choose from.
[ROM][All Quark][7.x] Resurrection Remix
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]AOKP 7.x For All Quark
[ROM][Quarks][LOS/CM 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2016-12-30] (hybrid of CM14 and Resurrection Remix)
[ROM][7.1][All quark] crDroid Android
[ROM][7.1.1_r9][OFFICIAL] AospExtended ROM V3.1 [OMS/DUI][quark]
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Still running (unlocked) stock, what do you recommend as a DD? I really just want it to work and have solid battery life (why I bought this phone 2+ years ago). Is there one of these seen as the most stable? (My days of finding a decent rom for my S3 were a nightmare, no one rom was stable enough to "just work") Thx!
rhcreed said:
Still running (unlocked) stock, what do you recommend as a DD? I really just want it to work and have solid battery life (why I bought this phone 2+ years ago). Is there one of these seen as the most stable? (My days of finding a decent rom for my S3 were a nightmare, no one rom was stable enough to "just work") Thx!
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Any of the top three Nougat ROMS on the list have very high reviews. You can go to those threads and ask questions, and see other Droid Turbo owners.
#2 and #3 are maintained by Droid Turbo owners who use Verizon, if that makes a difference to you. But all three are excellent and many Droid Turbo owners are using all three.
[ROM][All Quark][7.x] Resurrection Remix
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]AOKP 7.x For All Quark
[ROM][Quarks][LOS/CM 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2016-12-30] (hybrid of CM14 and Resurrection Remix)
However, if you need Verizon VoLTE, then you should go with a debloated, tweaked Marshmallow ROM based on stock Motorola Verizon firmware. See below. It's not Nougat, but right now only stock Motorola Verizon firmware or a ROM based on stock Verizon firmware can get Verizon VoLTE on this phone -- until a dev discovers the secret handshake. (ZTE has discovered the secret handshake for Verizon VoLTE. Now a dev just needs to figure out what they did.)
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@computerfreek274 has now released a Marshmallow ROM for the Droid Turbo XT1254 based on the Verizon's belated Marshmallow firmware. He has debloated it, tweaked it. It has Verizon voicemail app, Verizon VoLTE (only works on Verizon), Verizon Wi-Fi calling (only works on Verizon), some volume boost, and battery saving tweaks.
* Computerfreek274_MM_1.0.4 Marshmallow 6.0.1 Stock rooted VOLte Debloated
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/development/computerfreek274mm1-0-android-6-0-1-t3503634

Unlocked Amazon XT1625 to retail firmware?

So, I have a 32gb Amazon-variant XT1625 on MPJ24.139-48 with an unlocked bootloader and root. I want to update to Nougat, but it's looking like setting up to take the Amazon update is going to be a fair amount of effort; I'm wondering if it's possible to just flash the retail version of Nougat since it's looking like I'm going to have to go to a fair sum of effort anyway.
I've also heard that Moto G4 Plus ROMs will work on the G4, but I don't know the specifics on that.
i dont see why not as long as you already unlocked the bootloader prior to Moto(Lenovo) disallowed unlocking of amazon varients of the g4. heres a link to the stock nougat firmware
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298955218
I flashed -64 retus software on mine and it immediately had two nougat updates afterwards. Still waiting for one that fixes the aboot sector vulnerability too but never know when that may come
Travisholt92 said:
I flashed -64 retus software on mine and it immediately had two nougat updates afterwards. Still waiting for one that fixes the aboot sector vulnerability too but never know when that may come
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then you was able to flash retail version in a amazon prime phone? I have one and it dont boot if i instal a retail version.
di anybody actually get this working? I had the same issue as @iurd2007 I was able to unlock the bootloader just fine. The flash appeared to have taken successfully. But it just gets caught in a boot loop when trying to reboot the system after the flash. I followed the instructions here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
okay, so i've tried various roms both official and unofficial, as well as even the stock Nougat and Oreo flashable roms found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/development/rom-oreo-8-1-0-soak-test-t3873367
So far, the only ROM i've been able to get installed is omni rom 9, but it keeps crashing several apps over and over on the setup wizard. I've read somewhere that using a different version of TWRP recovery image might help. I've tried the official TWRP recovery from twrp.me, the patched arm64 version found here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tw...3-r1-athene-arm64_rajatgupta1998.img/download , also the latest version patched for efs backup/restore here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=29106#downloads. So far the the one that seems to work the best is the third version of TWRP. It would be nice if all these custom patches made it back into an official release, but it's probably asking a lot of a phone that is almost 4 years old at this point. and a budget friendly phone at that.

If I install a custom ROM on the XT1687, how do I return to stock?

Apologies if this has been asked before or if this is a stupid question, but it appears there are no stock images of the XT1687 (US unlocked) version of this phone?
This makes the idea of unlocking the bootloader and trying out custom ROMs kinda iffy if there's no way to easily return to stock. My Nexus, HTC and Samsung phones, for example, could easily be restored to the stock OS with a computer. Only thing I can find for this phone is OTA updates that can be sideloaded... nothing that would enable me to return to stock everything (recovery, OS, etc.) easily in the event that I would want to.
Is there something I'm missing that's different with Motorola phones?
Yes, you can easily go back to stock, I've done it a few times already. You can find threads & info here on it if you search around. Check in settings to see which build you have and the official firmware for Moto G5 Plus (aka potter) is located here:
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/
Some have received OTA upgrades but so far Moto hasn't officially posted those, so the above are what you originally got on your phone and any newer ones will appear there when available.
Dahenjo said:
Yes, you can easily go back to stock, I've done it a few times already. You can find threads & info here on it if you search around. Check in settings to see which build you have and the official firmware for Moto G5 Plus (aka potter) is located here:
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/
Some have received OTA upgrades but so far Moto hasn't officially posted those, so the above are what you originally got on your phone and any newer ones will appear there when available.
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I don't think any XT1687s have gotten updates to .67, and in fact when I flashed .67 to my phone VoLTE and T-Mobile wifi calling stopped working even though the software channel still says retus...I imagine there are updated binaries for said functions that is why we in the US haven't got the update
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I don't think any XT1687s have gotten updates to .67, and in fact when I flashed .67 to my phone VoLTE and T-Mobile wifi calling stopped working even though the software channel still says retus...I imagine there are updated binaries for said functions that is why we in the US haven't got the update
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I'm running the debloated/deodexed .67-based stock ROM and mine also still shows retus in settings. Everything works identically well to my "assigned" .33 from before, but I'm on AT&T so don't use VoLTE.
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I have a moto g5 plus xt1687, where can I download a stock rom. I am currently rooted and do not have a backup to the original rom. What are my options? Thanks.

Questions about our dear potter.

Hello all, I'm new to the g5+ but have been rooting phones for a while but I'm a little hesitant with this phone for a couple reasons. I'm coming for a moto x pure edition "Clark" which had a lot less different firmware upgrades and a straight forward rooting process.
My first question is which twrp are most people using? I've found 4 different ones on here but not sure which one is best. Also not sure if me being on firmware version Npns25.137-33-5.
Which brings me to my next question. Has anyone successfully rooted retus potter npns25.137-33-5? I literally can't find any information about peoples success on this build number. Normally I would just try it but I can't find the factory firmware to flash the system partition back if no mess it up. The only 33-5 firmware I can find says nits for the amazon version but mine is non amazon xt1687 64gb model.
Any feedback would be much appreciated, really looking forward to aospa, might try crdroid too that was my favorite ROM on clark
There's a thread somewhere that has a program you can use to unlock bootloader and twrp etc. I don't think it matters which firmware you're on but the stock files are in that thread also. I used the program and everything worked fine. I think it's in the development section
redman321 said:
Hello all, I'm new to the g5+ but have been rooting phones for a while but I'm a little hesitant with this phone for a couple reasons. I'm coming for a moto x pure edition "Clark" which had a lot less different firmware upgrades and a straight forward rooting process.
My first question is which twrp are most people using? I've found 4 different ones on here but not sure which one is best. Also not sure if me being on firmware version Npns25.137-33-5.
Which brings me to my next question. Has anyone successfully rooted retus potter npns25.137-33-5? I literally can't find any information about peoples success on this build number. Normally I would just try it but I can't find the factory firmware to flash the system partition back if no mess it up. The only 33-5 firmware I can find says nits for the amazon version but mine is non amazon xt1687 64gb model.
Any feedback would be much appreciated, really looking forward to aospa, might try crdroid too that was my favorite ROM on clark
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I've rooted 35-5. Works the same way.
Also came from Clark. Rooting Potter is easy and I even screwed up multiple times by trying to flash a zip file when I should have been flashing a .img
file so I can testify that the rooting process is robust enough to not brick immediately if something goes wrong.
Can anyone shed light on the TWRP app and it's functionality. Does it install image files correctly and so forth? I'm literally under 24 hours having unlocked and flashed AOSPA Sso still learning the device

How do I upgrade my new Moto G4 Play to latest Android?

I just bought a new Moto G4 Play and want to upgrade to the latest version. I tried and tried with no success. Here are the screen shots.
Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
What versiĆ³n you want exactly?
Why does not test a custom ROM, at these all worked except DRM.
Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 4 mediante Tapatalk
I am a noob when it comes to Android. I want to install the latest stock version of Android that doesn't brick my phone.
Try flashing 'lineage' 'resurrection remix' 'pixel experience' or any other rom of your choice they all work flawlessly and to eliminate chances of bricking your device just take a backup before flashing any rom or mod
but moto camera picture qulity is good. Do you have any other camera same as moto cmc
but moto camera picture quality is good. Do you have any other camera same as moto camera for custom rom.
HackerHead said:
I just bought a new Moto G4 Play and want to upgrade to the latest version. I tried and tried with no success. Here are the screen shots.
Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
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if you have an unofficial recovery you will never be able to update like this.
it is best to download the latest version HARPIA_NPI26.48-43_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml and install it using fastboot
Latest version for Moto G4 Play is 7.1.1 Pretty safe bet these phones will not get OREO or Pixel. You have to go install Lineage or some other custom rom assuming you can root the phone. If this a carrier phone like Verizon XT1609 then all bets are off, these phones cannot be rooted due to Verizon encrypting their MOTO G4 XT1609 bootloaders. At least the xt1609 is getting security updates on 7.1.1.

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