So I just got a email for a soak test, wonder if it would block sunshine again. Luckily I already unlocked by mine.
zys52712 said:
So I just got a email for a soak test, wonder if it would block sunshine again. Luckily I already unlocked by mine.
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A further reminder to spend the money for sunshine now if you have any desire for an unlocked bootloader. Do not cry here if you take this soak or the ota and can't unlock if you had the opportunity to do so now.
Interesting. Maybe they'll throw us a bone and actually give us some security patches besides the one that stops Sunshine from working.
$10 says it's just a security patch rushed out to block Sunshine. So, EVERYBODY will now rush to install it before unlocking their bootloader.
Motorola Droid Turbo to receive Soak Test; could a surprise Nougat update be on the way?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...-surprise-Nougat-update-be-on-the-way_id91284
If you own the DROID Turbo, don't get your hopes up too high. These type of surprises rarely ever happen. Additionally, the fact that Motorola wants to rush this Soak Test probably means that the update contains something less earth shattering than a new Android build. Instead, it might offer a few bug fixes or the latest Google security patch.
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A further reminder to spend the money for sunshine now if you have any desire for an unlocked bootloader. Do not cry here if you take this soak or the ota and can't unlock if you had the opportunity to do so now.
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If we already have bought/used sunshine is there any need to redownload and use it again before/after taking the OTA?
5538dcf5 said:
If we already have bought/used sunshine is there any need to redownload and use it again before/after taking the OTA?
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If your xt1254 (Verizon Droid turbo) has an unlocked bootloader via the sunshine app before now, then you are safe and it is not necessary to purchase sunshine again.
It is best practice not to take OTA's ever, if you prefer having root access to your phone.
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If your xt1254 (Verizon Droid turbo) has an unlocked bootloader via the sunshine app before now, then you are safe and it is not necessary to purchase sunshine again.
It is best practice not to take OTA's ever, if you prefer having root access to your phone.
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Right. That doesn't mean you can't ever install UPDATES. Just wait until the stupid people take the OTA, see what it does.
Then the update will be posted here in XDA -- in many places and you can install them manually. Like the 6.0.1 Marshmallow firmware update. It's posted here in XDA as:
the full raw update,
a TWRP flashable version, (flashed with RSD or fastboot)
and was turned into a debloated, tweaked ROM version.
All which could be installed by people with unlocked bootloaders. The latter two could be installed via TWRP custom recovery.
There was never any reason to take the unknown OTA from Verizon, and never will be a reason to do so. If an OTA from Verizon is useful in any way, many, many versions will be posted here with expert commentary on what it does, how to install it. Early version of the 6.0.1 Marshmallow OTA bricked Droid Turbos which were encrypted. Verizon/Motorola stopped the OTA for several days. There's NEVER any reason to be the guinea pig for Verizon's incompetence. It's not like they didn't have enough time to test the firmware! The XT1225 got the SAME Marshmallow back in July 2016.
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Right. That doesn't mean you can't ever install UPDATES. Just wait until the stupid people take the OTA, see what it does.
Then the update will be posted here in XDA -- in many places and you can install them manually. Like the 6.0.1 Marshmallow firmware update. It's posted here in XDA as:
the full raw update,
a TWRP flashable version, (flashed with RSD or fastboot)
and was turned into a debloated, tweaked ROM version.
All which could be installed by people with unlocked bootloaders. The latter two could be installed via TWRP custom recovery.
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Question about the debloated, tweaked ROM version...what difference will I notice versus stock? Is there anything that doesn't work in the ROM?
Everytime sunshine finds an exploit that unlocks Droid Turbo's bootloader Verizon gives us a new update..
Coincidence? I think not.
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Question about the debloated, tweaked ROM version...what difference will I notice versus stock? Is there anything that doesn't work in the ROM?
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It's gotten enthusiastic reviews from users, but would be better for you to go to that link and read the op (first post) and then read the last few pages of comments. Not all the pages, but at least the last 5 or 6.
A couple of us already told you about it in the other thread:
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I know you don't want a "ROM", but you might consider ComputerFreak274's stock-based ROM. It's just de-bloated, tweaked stock Verizon Motorola Marshmallow firmware. Has audio boost and some other stuff too -- battery tweaks, speed tweaks, cache tweaks, etc.
If you are a Verizon user, right now this is the only "ROM" that lets you keep VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling on Verizon.
You can still install Xposed with this, he tells you how to do it in his op.
I'm on Resurrection Remix Marshmallow myself, so I'm not suggesting it because I use it (I have XT1225, not XT1254). I'm suggesting it because it's basically stock firmware the way Verizon/Motorola should have released it. It's a "ROM" for XT1254 Verizon users who don't want full custom ROMs.
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Only xposed I have install is the YouTube add block . I have gravity box for other tweaks. I am on CFs ( ComputerFreak274) 1.06 mm ROM. I like his work. Check it out.
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Has anyone taken the Feb soak? Anything interesting?
Just got it, it's only a security update. You can check the Droid Turbo Reddit for confirmation, a user there has the same results.
Confirmed by Verizon: https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/droid-turbo-update/
Also, I'm downloading it now, and I'm not part of the soak test. I'll capture the OTA and post it shortly.
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Just got it, it's only a security update. You can check the Droid Turbo Reddit for confirmation, a user there has the same results.
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A "security update" to block Sunshine? [emoji14]
Now that Sunshine unlocks 6.0.1 bootloader?
Figured as much. The people speculating Nougat were delusional. Lenovo/Motorola hasn't even given all the Quarks Marshmallow yet.
My response to a post from this morning in another thread, but relevant to this discussion...
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Any idea about nougat update for Moto Maxx?
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Nougat? Motorola hasn't even released stock Marshmallow for all the Moto Maxx phones yet! The U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 (clone of the XT1254 Droid Turbo in every way -- FCC ID, radio bands) is still on 5.0.2 Lollipop!
None of the Quarks are on the Motorola Nougat list, which was released months ago by Motorola/Lenovo. Would be very unusual to give an unannounced Noguat 7.X update, since Motorola/Lenovo seems to want to do less work -- not more -- regarding updates to their customers.
Motorola announced Marshmallow for Quarks October 2, 2015. WHEN did they deliver it?
XT1225 Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo got it in July 2016 (9 months later),
Took Motorola until December 2016 (13 months) to actually give it to the Droid Turbo XT1254 --
U.S. Moto Maxx still does not have Marshmallow (16 months and counting).
If you want Nougat, unlock your bootloader and flash any of the custom Nougat 7.X ROM we have available. Here's the current custom Nougat (7.x) Quark ROMs to choose from.
[ROM][All Quark][7.x] Resurrection Remix
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]AOKP 7.x For All Quark
[ROM][Quarks][LOS/CM 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2016-12-30] (hybrid of CM14 and Resurrection Remix)
[ROM][7.1][All quark] crDroid Android
[ROM][7.1.1_r9][OFFICIAL] AospExtended ROM V3.1 [OMS/DUI][quark]
OTA posted. https://forum.xda-developers.com/dr.../ota-marshmallow-build-mcg24-251-5-5-t3565697
Hahahhahaha I know they are lazy....Motorola was good untill it was solo company!!! Lenovo ruined it!!
they won't keep us current, but they can bang out an update to patch sunshine, WTF? it's like they want to say FU to us for using this phone..
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they won't keep us current, but they can bang out an update to patch sunshine, WTF? it's like they want to say FU to us for using this phone..
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Well to be fair, the android security patch version is now dated January 2017, so at least there's that.
Also, at long last, we are finally protected from the Stagefright vulnerability :laugh:
DD?
ChazzMatt said:
A "security update" to block Sunshine? [emoji14]
If you want Nougat, unlock your bootloader and flash any of the custom Nougat 7.X ROM we have available. Here's the current custom Nougat (7.x) Quark ROMs to choose from.
[ROM][All Quark][7.x] Resurrection Remix
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]AOKP 7.x For All Quark
[ROM][Quarks][LOS/CM 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2016-12-30] (hybrid of CM14 and Resurrection Remix)
[ROM][7.1][All quark] crDroid Android
[ROM][7.1.1_r9][OFFICIAL] AospExtended ROM V3.1 [OMS/DUI][quark]
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Still running (unlocked) stock, what do you recommend as a DD? I really just want it to work and have solid battery life (why I bought this phone 2+ years ago). Is there one of these seen as the most stable? (My days of finding a decent rom for my S3 were a nightmare, no one rom was stable enough to "just work") Thx!
rhcreed said:
Still running (unlocked) stock, what do you recommend as a DD? I really just want it to work and have solid battery life (why I bought this phone 2+ years ago). Is there one of these seen as the most stable? (My days of finding a decent rom for my S3 were a nightmare, no one rom was stable enough to "just work") Thx!
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Any of the top three Nougat ROMS on the list have very high reviews. You can go to those threads and ask questions, and see other Droid Turbo owners.
#2 and #3 are maintained by Droid Turbo owners who use Verizon, if that makes a difference to you. But all three are excellent and many Droid Turbo owners are using all three.
[ROM][All Quark][7.x] Resurrection Remix
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]AOKP 7.x For All Quark
[ROM][Quarks][LOS/CM 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2016-12-30] (hybrid of CM14 and Resurrection Remix)
However, if you need Verizon VoLTE, then you should go with a debloated, tweaked Marshmallow ROM based on stock Motorola Verizon firmware. See below. It's not Nougat, but right now only stock Motorola Verizon firmware or a ROM based on stock Verizon firmware can get Verizon VoLTE on this phone -- until a dev discovers the secret handshake. (ZTE has discovered the secret handshake for Verizon VoLTE. Now a dev just needs to figure out what they did.)
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@computerfreek274 has now released a Marshmallow ROM for the Droid Turbo XT1254 based on the Verizon's belated Marshmallow firmware. He has debloated it, tweaked it. It has Verizon voicemail app, Verizon VoLTE (only works on Verizon), Verizon Wi-Fi calling (only works on Verizon), some volume boost, and battery saving tweaks.
* Computerfreek274_MM_1.0.4 Marshmallow 6.0.1 Stock rooted VOLte Debloated
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/development/computerfreek274mm1-0-android-6-0-1-t3503634
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Ok, I know what you're thinking, 5.1 thread, again???? No it's not.
This is for Non Droid Turbo devices, non US Verizon. So Moto Maxx, Latin America devices such as the XT1225
I am currently on official 4.4.4 and I have already opt in for the Moto Feedback Network, so I should get the Soak test update when available.
So let's keep this threat updated about 5.1 updates for our international Droid Turbo variants.
And by the way here are the DROID TURBO - Android™ 5.1 Lollipop - Release Notes
Kiwironic said:
Ok, I know what you're thinking, 5.1 thread, again???? No it's not.
This is for Non Droid Turbo devices, non US Verizon. So Moto Maxx, Latin America devices such as the XT1225
I am currently on official 4.4.4 and I have already opt in for the Moto Feedback Network, so I should get the Soak test update when available.
So let's keep this threat updated about 5.1 updates for our international Droid Turbo variants.
And by the way here are the DROID TURBO - Android™ 5.1 Lollipop - Release Notes
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Did you receive the survey or something? Or are you just being proactive and already creating a topic for when it happens?
Proactive mate, I have already singed up for the program and waiting for the soak for the international version.
Here we can follow updates about different variants of the phone (except for the main Droid turbo USA branch), who gets Soak, or official and news regarding that. I am using a PR XT1225, stock firmware and unrooted sadly due to corporate software.
This is the thread I need...waiting like you. I know we could root and stick L on it, but I want to see what develops first (and KK has been fine for me). But hopefully something will develop soon.
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This is the thread I need...waiting like you. I know we could root and stick L on it, but I want to see what develops first (and KK has been fine for me). But hopefully something will develop soon.
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You're lucky you have that option, I don't as I have to use corporate software and cannot be rooted (let's not start talking about root cloaking etc as it didn't work for me)
Let's keep this alive with updates and share stories and we should be fine, I am assuming since Droid US has got 5.1 it won't be far for us. I would give it a month or two.
People keep saying that Droid turbo and Moto Maxx are left behind but the reality is, we are getting the 5.1 update at the same time as the Moto X so we should use the Moto X as an indicator. I think once Moto X (international version) gets the official 5.1 update (currently in Soak testing as the Droid Turbo) we will get it as well.
I think some people won't even have to wait. Tomorrow Motorola will release a downloadable file of Droid Turbo 5.1 for use with RSD lite, and since the Droid Turbo KK worked on Moto Maxx (since it's bootloader can be unlocked), I'm betting this one will too, but with some adjustments (like no flashing the rádio partition/flashing the intl rádio partition afterwards)
That might work, but I won't risk it. I would wait for the official OTA, I have already returned 100% stock. I would have totally gone for it if I didn't have my work apps complications.
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That might work, but I won't risk it. I would wait for the official OTA, I have already returned 100% stock. I would have totally gone for it if I didn't have my work apps complications.
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The apps are a problem indeed. I'll wait for the oficial release, then go backup to KK, restore my stuff with titanium and update.
DarkLey said:
The apps are a problem indeed. I'll wait for the oficial release, then go backup to KK, restore my stuff with titanium and update.
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Titanium no go bro, remember I don't have root anymore. :crying: :crying:
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Titanium no go bro, remember I don't have root anymore. :crying: :crying:
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I do remember, for you it's really a no go if you want/have to keep the apps/data. Rootjunkysdl already have the OTA file, I'm backing up now to test my hypothesis.
Well I can justify asking for a new access code for my corporate apps after full wipe, but if something goes wrong with root / backup or installing the OTA as Zip my device will be banned. Can't take that risk. So I will have to wait for official or Soak OTA.
But please let us know how that goes for you. Which device do you have? is it a PR XT1225 ?
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Well I can justify asking for a new access code for my corporate apps after full wipe, but if something goes wrong with root / backup or installing the OTA as Zip my device will be banned. Can't take that risk. So I will have to wait for official or Soak OTA.
But please let us know how that goes for you. Which device do you have? is it a PR XT1225 ?
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BR XT1225. One time I flashed the 4.4 Stock ROM for the Turbo in my device and it worked allright, and since this time I will just do the same then update, I think it'll work the same. Still backing up (a lot of data here).
Keep us updated mate.
Here are some news:
http://www.tudocelular.com/android/noticias/n56970/droid-turbo-moto-maxx-android-5-1-lollipop.html
How did it go??
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How did it go??
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I haven't tried everything yet because I'm restoring my phone from a hardbrick.
My tries and findings so far:
First hypothesis) Flash KK service ROM KDF21. Directly: I knew it wouldn't work from the begining, since the frequencies for the radio cell are different, but tried anyway. Managed to update to Lollipop (KK -> KK VoLTE -> KK something -> OTA Lollipop) but without cell signal it's useless
Second hypothesis) Flash radio partition from RETBR Lollipop over Droid Turbo Lollipop OTA: didn't work too, don't know exactly the reason.
Third hypothesis) Flash Droid Turbo KK over RETBR KK, BUT without the radio partition, then update: worked till I tried to update (somebody already posted that flashing Droid Turbo KK without flashing radio over RETBR KK works). The system won't update probably because the VoLTE/Advanced Calling update needs to modify radio and finds a different radio partition.
Fourth hypothesis) To be tested yet ---- Update Droid Turbo KK to the latest (after VoLTE), flash radio partition from RETBR KK, then update with Droid Turbo LP OTA: haven't tried this yet because when I was flashing RETBR KK again I bumped at the cable and it was already faulty, so I have to unbrick my device to try again and I'm gathering the stuff to do that (no tutorial available, maybe I'll put something together sometime)
Edit: nvm, found this just a couple threads below: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/turbo-unbrick-t3139811
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I haven't tried everything yet because I'm restoring my phone from a hardbrick.
My tries and findings so far:
First hypothesis) Flash KK service ROM KDF21. Directly: I knew it wouldn't work from the begining, since the frequencies for the radio cell are different, but tried anyway. Managed to update to Lollipop (KK -> KK VoLTE -> KK something -> OTA Lollipop) but without cell signal it's useless
Second hypothesis) Flash radio partition from RETBR Lollipop over Droid Turbo Lollipop OTA: didn't work too, don't know exactly the reason.
Third hypothesis) Flash Droid Turbo KK over RETBR KK, BUT without the radio partition, then update: worked till I tried to update (somebody already posted that flashing Droid Turbo KK without flashing radio over RETBR KK works). The system won't update probably because the VoLTE/Advanced Calling update needs to modify radio and finds a different radio partition.
Fourth hypothesis) To be tested yet ---- Update Droid Turbo KK to the latest (after VoLTE), flash radio partition from RETBR KK, then update with Droid Turbo LP OTA: haven't tried this yet because when I was flashing RETBR KK again I bumped at the cable and it was already faulty, so I have to unbrick my device to try again and I'm gathering the stuff to do that (no tutorial available, maybe I'll put something together sometime)
Edit: nvm, found this just a couple threads below: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/turbo-unbrick-t3139811
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:fingers-crossed: Hope it goes well, and thanks for the link.
Hope to see ;
İncreased earpiece and speaker volume.
Better camera
Better calibrated screen for a little colder and more brightness.
Fix memory leak
and i am done.
Sent from my XT1225 using XDA Free mobile app
And better battery performance too
DarkLey said:
I haven't tried everything yet because I'm restoring my phone from a hardbrick.
My tries and findings so far:
First hypothesis) Flash KK service ROM KDF21. Directly: I knew it wouldn't work from the begining, since the frequencies for the radio cell are different, but tried anyway. Managed to update to Lollipop (KK -> KK VoLTE -> KK something -> OTA Lollipop) but without cell signal it's useless
Second hypothesis) Flash radio partition from RETBR Lollipop over Droid Turbo Lollipop OTA: didn't work too, don't know exactly the reason.
Third hypothesis) Flash Droid Turbo KK over RETBR KK, BUT without the radio partition, then update: worked till I tried to update (somebody already posted that flashing Droid Turbo KK without flashing radio over RETBR KK works). The system won't update probably because the VoLTE/Advanced Calling update needs to modify radio and finds a different radio partition.
Fourth hypothesis) To be tested yet ---- Update Droid Turbo KK to the latest (after VoLTE), flash radio partition from RETBR KK, then update with Droid Turbo LP OTA: haven't tried this yet because when I was flashing RETBR KK again I bumped at the cable and it was already faulty, so I have to unbrick my device to try again and I'm gathering the stuff to do that (no tutorial available, maybe I'll put something together sometime)
Edit: nvm, found this just a couple threads below: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/turbo-unbrick-t3139811
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Wow. You are brave!
I'm happy right now with CM 12.1 (5.1.1 Lollipop on my two XT1225 phones. I'm actually in Brazil right now for two weeks, using them.
Hope 5.1 files Motorola releases will help for custom ROMs for our phones.
When Motorola does release 5.1 for the XT1225 (Moto Turbo and international Moto Maxx), the kernel source code is the main thing, but won't come for awhile.
First it's the OTA, then the full image, then a month or so later the kernel code. At least that seems to be the pattern.
Hi everyone,
I have the Moto G4 xt1625 Amazon Prime variation. Nevertheless, I took the regular steps to receive the unlock code on Motorola Website and they simply sent it to me. No idea if the fact that I live outside US and / or that my carrier is, obviously, from outside US had anything to do with it or if I was just lucky. I got the code, but I still never used it, which means I have the stock 6.0.1 android.
Now on to my questions:
1-My build number is MPJ24.139-64. What does that really means? I see people discussing this everywhere, some are 65. What difference does each build have?
2-I never heard of Firmware when speaking of mobiles. I always heard/changed the OS, but now you guys are changing firmware and OS. How do I know which firmware I have? How do I get the latest one?
3-Since I have the unlock code for the boot loader, does it virtually means I have a regular xt1625 Moto G4? I mean, as of now I still have the adds, but should I opt to unlock the boot loader and say flash CM 14.1 it would be the same as non Prime xt1625 or does the Prime version have other differences (build, firmware, etc)?
4-Can Moto G4 use the same ROMs as Moto G4 Plus? I've seen different answers regarding this matter. Would I have to flash base bands and/or soak test?
5-Is CM 14.1 (cm-14.1-20161225-NIGHTLY-athene.zip) the latest AOSP ROM for Moto G4?
Thank you in advance for your help and time! =]
Andre
Anyone? ^^
Maybe i can help you
1- This is like the version of firmware, or OS if you want to call like this way, (correct me if i am wrong)
2- Firware and OS are the same, i guess. Better call it ROM
3- Yes, the same. But i have the prime version locked so i cant tell you with 100% of security
4- Yes and no. the board is the same thing, you can install it but maybe you have problems like heat (not so much, of course)(because moto g+ have the cores boosted to 100%, and moto g non plus have 4 to 100% and 4 energy saver cores.)
5- NIGHTLY is a buggy software, this is not the software 100% tested. Maybe you have to wait a SNAPSHOT. This is more secure
Sorry for my English. I speak spanish better <3s
Thank you!!
What about the Indian 7.0 ROM? Can we install it without problems?
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Thank you!!
What about the Indian 7.0 ROM? Can we install it without problems?
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If you have unlocked the bootloader of course! Yes!
But maybe you want to make a backup of everything before!
I will recommend to you wait until the official software for your smartpone arrive..
For some reason Motorola has not released it, maybe the Indian 7.0 is buggy and they are just testing with india...
But you can try without problems!
PD: Remember when i said without problems, Problems may appear like overheating, WiFi problems, etc etc. But you can have a taste of nougat! Just search a little, i know people who have Nougat in theirs XT1625, and is working "well" (overheating againg)
try this
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/development/moto-g4-india-official-nougat-7-0-ota-t3533078
Hi,
I'm not a newbie here, but I think I can help u with some info since I have the same amz prime unlocked bootloader
Now on to my questions:
1-My build number is MPJ24.139-64. What does that really means? I see people discussing this everywhere, some are 65. What difference does each build have?
This is the latest build, that it's available for this phone version, this FW is the one that I had before I moved to RR.
2-I never heard of Firmware when speaking of mobiles. I always heard/changed the OS, but now you guys are changing firmware and OS. How do I know which firmware I have? How do I get the latest one?
FW es the specific version of a OS, the one that's meant to be on your phone
3-Since I have the unlock code for the boot loader, does it virtually means I have a regular xt1625 Moto G4? I mean, as of now I still have the adds, but should I opt to unlock the boot loader and say flash CM 14.1 it would be the same as non Prime xt1625 or does the Prime version have other differences (build, firmware, etc)?
Unlocking the bootloader means that it can support non official software, a custom recovery and after that you can root it, install a custom rom or mostly anything that you can think. But it still an specific branch oh the moto g4 the prime edition. So you can install Nougat from a TWRP, but not directly as an update or any other procedure
4-Can Moto G4 use the same ROMs as Moto G4 Plus? I've seen different answers regarding this matter. Would I have to flash base bands and/or soak test?
The moto G4 plus uses the same Hardware, custom roms can be used in any of those, not official roms
5-Is CM 14.1 (cm-14.1-20161225-NIGHTLY-athene.zip) the latest AOSP ROM for Moto G4?
CM is now gone, the new version of it would be Lineage OS, I personally use Resurrection Remix as my daily driver, it has TONS of customizations and it tells you whenever an update it's available.
Be carefeul with installing anything on your phone just have always a recovery back up in the micro sd and on a usb o pc available in case anything went wrong.
Hope this could help
Pardon my english.
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Thank you for this! Also very helpful!
So as the title suggests. I bought my phone 2 months ago, and since I got it it hasn't updated once. Nothing, not so much as a security patch or anything.
I've tried googling this but nothing comes up. I obviously check via system update - and it says it's up to date.
My build number ends 137-33.
Android security patch 1st January 2017.
It's not rooted. And all stock.
Is this normal?
My phone came with same build and you're not alone. Twiddling thumbs may help with the long wait, or root and try some custom ROMs. I've got the June 5th security patch running CyberOS which is based on Android 7.1.2 and other custom ROMs are similar. There's a debloated stock ROM based on India's G5+ update (they got one already) with the March patch at least. That said, there are rumbles ours is finally coming soon if you do want to remain stock and get the OTA.
What does it say under Settings > About Phone> Software Channel?
There hasnt been an update for the UK Moto G5 Plus yet.
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.There's a debloated stock ROM based on India's G5+ update (they got one already) with the March patch at least. That said, there are rumbles ours is finally coming soon if you do want to remain stock and get the OTA.
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I asked a similar question in a separate thread and maybe you know, is the update 137-35-5 that is available as a zip able to be flashed over this same build, 137-33 I have now? I unlocked my bootloader but stopped short of flashing twrp or rooting. I think the 35-5 update only has the May security patch only but someone uploaded the full firmware. Any opinions are welcome.
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There hasnt been an update for the UK Moto G5 Plus yet.
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Yeah, I cannot believe that some regions were being updated months ago to March and subsequently May security patches and the UK is still yet to receive any updates at all. Why do manufacturers make their lives so much more difficult by having such variances by region? A single software version for all regions seems to work just fine for Google and their Nexus/Pixel lines.
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Yeah, I cannot believe that some regions were being updated months ago to March and subsequently May security patches and the UK is still yet to receive any updates at all. Why do manufacturers make their lives so much more difficult by having such variances by region? A single software version for all regions seems to work just fine for Google and their Nexus/Pixel lines.
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I fully agree with you mate and i think it is only going to get worse with Lenovo pumping out more and more models.
I am in same boat my friend
My Moto G5 Plus is telling me that my software is up to date, yet it's still running Android 7.0, but more importantly the security patch level is 1/1/17. I don't know about major OS updates, but there MUST be at least some updates out there that I'm not getting. Can someone link me to somewhere where I can find a .zip files for all OTA updates, so I can just flash the update and then flash Magisk again to retain root? Thanks!
You are probably not receiving OTA updates since you've rooted your phone, right? There was no major updates but there was few security patches this year. Which model exactly you have? That's gonna help in providing you correct links...
I too feel like I am not on the latest version. I have two XT1687 units. I got two updates minutes after power on but I only at the March 1st update. Build NPN 25.137-43-5. Are there newer builds for the US version phone?
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I too feel like I am not on the latest version. I have two XT1687 units. I got two updates minutes after power on but I only at the March 1st update. Build NPN 25.137-43-5. Are there newer builds for the US version phone?
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NPN25.137-83 with an August 1 security patch is the latest in the US... unless you are on Verizon, I think they are still on an older build due to voice quality issues.
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NPN25.137-83 with an August 1 security patch is the latest in the US... unless you are on Verizon, I think they are still on an older build due to voice quality issues.
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I am on Verizon so that must be it. One more reason to move on to another carrier. Which is partly why I got the phones to begin with.
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I am on Verizon so that must be it. One more reason to move on to another carrier. Which is partly why I got the phones to begin with.
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Problem is your stuck regardless of carrier now until they release an update FROM NPN25.137-43-5 to whatever... an OTA update is a differential update, meaning you have to have X to move to Y, so the update you just have to wait anyway.
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Problem is your stuck regardless of carrier now until they release an update FROM NPN25.137-43-5 to whatever... an OTA update is a differential update, meaning you have to have X to move to Y, so the update you just have to wait anyway.
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I don't quite follow. Are you saying the build I am running is for Verizon only? If I put in T-Moblie sim cards in I would STILL not get the update?
Is there a way to flash the latest build in whole, not a delta upgrade?
I am using a rooted Moto G5 Plus that I bought from Amazon (no ads, 64 GB ROM & 4 GB RAM) with the stock software it was shipped with. As far as I understand, with a rooted phone, to update your software you just need to flash (1) the latest OTA update .zip file, and then (2) flash the root package .zip file again to retain root. However, unlike other phones, I can't find these OTA software update .zip files ANYWHERE. Can someone please help?
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I don't quite follow. Are you saying the build I am running is for Verizon only? If I put in T-Moblie sim cards in I would STILL not get the update?
Is there a way to flash the latest build in whole, not a delta upgrade?
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Yes, that is what I am saying... Verizon had some real issues with voice quality initially, and several Verizon "specific" software updates went out to address that issue, and only to Verizon users, the rest of us (such as myself on AT&T) never got those updates.
You have to wait until Moto makes an update to the latest version from your version -AND- Verizon accepts it and allows it to be pushed out. Switching SIMs now won't matter since there is no update from your version to the latest out there, in fact, it could actually delay you getting the update because you are not on Verizon so Moto's update server may not offer it to your IMEI until it is available for pull (rather than push, which is all we have seen so far)
We do not have the full image of the ROM either, so flashing it is not possible.
The kicker is that the latest version supposedly fixes all the Verizon specific issues too. :/
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I am using a rooted Moto G5 Plus that I bought from Amazon (no ads, 64 GB ROM & 4 GB RAM) with the stock software it was shipped with. As far as I understand, with a rooted phone, to update your software you just need to flash (1) the latest OTA update .zip file, and then (2) flash the root package .zip file again to retain root. However, unlike other phones, I can't find these OTA software update .zip files ANYWHERE. Can someone please help?
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Sort of... OTA files can only be flashed on a pure stock system, no root, no TWRP, no Xposed, nothing changed in system, no removed packages, etc. If the OTA script even detects that /system was ever mounted R/W it can fail (I don't know if Moto goes that far).
To flash an OTA you must restore your stock ROM completely (/system, /boot, and any other system level partitions), and restore stock recovery, and all versions must match or the OTA script will crap out with an error.
The OTA files are out there, on this forum in various threads... you can find them along with instructions on how to apply them to rooted and stock systems.
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Yes, that is what I am saying... Verizon had some real issues with voice quality initially, and several Verizon "specific" software updates went out to address that issue, and only to Verizon users, the rest of us (such as myself on AT&T) never got those updates.
You have to wait until Moto makes an update to the latest version from your version -AND- Verizon accepts it and allows it to be pushed out. Switching SIMs now won't matter since there is no update from your version to the latest out there, in fact, it could actually delay you getting the update because you are not on Verizon so Moto's update server may not offer it to your IMEI until it is available for pull (rather than push, which is all we have seen so far)
We do not have the full image of the ROM either, so flashing it is not possible.
The kicker is that the latest version supposedly fixes all the Verizon specific issues too. :/
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Well ****. I screwed up then. I got these phones to leave Verizon and all that controlled rollout BS.(Had Droid Turbo before this) Didn't know that even on unbranded phones they would still interfere So can you rollback to the shipping rom?
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Well ****. I screwed up then. I got these phones to leave Verizon and all that controlled rollout BS.(Had Droid Turbo before this) Didn't know that even on unbranded phones they would still interfere So can you rollback to the shipping rom?
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Oh yeah... Moto's level of doing what the carriers "recommend" or whatever you want to call it, is ridiculous lately.
Good example is Nougat for the Moto X Pure Edition, if you are on Sprint or US Cellular you got it 2 months ago, but Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile users still haven't seen it. Except many users have figured it out, pop in a Boost Mobile SIM (not even activated) and it will grab the update almost immediately, let it apply, then swap your original SIM back in and enjoy some Nougat goodness. However that device never had a specific version for a certain carrier. Still today probably 80% of users of that FLAGSHIP device still haven't gotten an update that we know was completed in June/July, due to "partner approvals" or some such BS.
All these updates still come directly from Moto and their servers, but they are doing what the carriers tell them and only allowing it to certain devices... This has vaguely been admitted to by the mods on the official Lenovo support forums.
Honestly, many smaller brands with a history of poor update frequency get better update support than Moto's these days... My son's Axon 7 Mini already has 7.1.1 with the September update for BlueBourne, he got it the third week of September, and gets on every 3 months like clockwork. My faith in Moto is diminishing quickly, I gave them the benefit of the doubt on my last two (Moto X Pure Edition and Moto G 2015) because they were kind of transitional device during the Google-Lenovo switch over, and although my Moto G5 Plus is supported a little better I believe it is just because it is newer and not because Moto got better.
Chances this will be last Moto device? Let's just say this could be my last Moto device, and I have been a big Motorola fan for many years.
@acejavelin That can't be true for every phone. On the OnePlus 5, I am able to flash an OTA update through TWRP and then flash the root package and everything works fine.
Can anyone link me where to find OTA updates for Moto G5 Plus and, if necessary, instructions? I don't see why the instructions would be any different from the OnePlus 5, other than Motorola making it harder on purpose.
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@acejavelin That can't be true for every phone. On the OnePlus 5, I am able to flash an OTA update through TWRP and then flash the root package and everything works fine.
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Never said it was true for every phone or manufacturer, but that is the way it is with Moto devices... You cannot flash an OTA with TWRP, the script checks (among other things) the recovery and will fail if it doesn't have the correct signature, same with the modems, bootloader, partition table, and things in /system. Moto OTA updates are VERY picky and will fail at the drop of a hat on a device that is not purely stock.
The only work around, that works in SOME cases with Moto devices, is using FlashFire by Chainfire, but that is hit and miss, depends on what is updated.
There is a thread here that has TWRP flashable OTA updates. I flashed myself to the latest USA version just this week using them...
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There is a thread here that has TWRP flashable OTA updates. I flashed myself to the latest USA version just this week using them...
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Do you have a link to this thread? I am curious how the modems, partition table, and bootloader updates are handled since TWRP doesn't have the correct signature to write to these partitions. I can see where it could maybe update the boot and system partitions if they were extracted from the ROM, even if they are differential deltas, but my guess is that a "TWRP flashable" OTA is mearly an extract of a blank device's boot and system partition or just he changes, and packed into an OpenRecovery script, and not the "real" OTA file.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
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Ahh... OK... Read through those, can see they are ROM's that someone created from the OTA's and factory images, not the actual OTA's and cannot be used with a locked bootloader, . And if you read through it, they don't upgrade some partitions, like modems, and they have modified boot images that disable DM-Verity and force disable encryption...
They even clearly say:
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Do NOT attempt to apply standard OTAs over these builds; they will fail.
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Don't get me wrong, I appreciate any developers work, but these are ROMs, just not very custom as they are essentially stock with near no modifications.
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Ahh... OK... Read through those, can see they are ROM's that someone created from the OTA's and factory images, not the actual OTA's and cannot be used with a locked bootloader, . And if you read through it, they don't upgrade some partitions, like modems, and they have modified boot images that disable DM-Verity and force disable encryption...
They even clearly say:
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate any developers work, but these are ROMs, just not very custom as they are essentially stock with near no modifications.
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The TWRP flashable stock builds DO upgrade the modem.
As stated in the OP, the only partitions NOT upgraded are gpt and bootloader.
I didn't omit these partitions because they can't be written; I omitted them to prevent potential issues for people who really don't know what they're doing.
Disabling dm-verity is required due to some partitions unavoidably losing their oem signatures during the conversion process.
Disabling force encryption is practically required, as TWRP seems buggy with it enabled.
The intended purpose of these builds is to provide a dead simple (and safe) way for users to return to stock.
I have linked useful tools at the bottom of the OP for those interested in making their own modifications to these stock builds.
Hope this helps :good:
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Hope this helps :good:
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It does actually, thank you... Obviously I have a lot to learn about the differences between current devices and older Moto devices I am used to working.
Hi,
I have a stock HTC 10 running Nougat right now. It is not bootloader unlocked, rooted, or s-off yet. I plan on sending it in to sunshine soon. However, I just got the OTA notification for OREO. I am afraid to install it, since I don't don't want to ruin the possibility of me getting s-off and root. Does anyone know if the Oreo OTA affects the paths to root or s-off? Should I avoid it until after I'm s-off? Is there a chance that the OTA will actually make root/s-off easier? Has anyone tested that yet?
Sooner is always smarter than later. Sounds like a question for the sunshine team.
http://theroot.ninja/
This is what it says for the latest version:
SunShine is our bootloader unlock/s-off tool for Motorola and HTC phones. We currently support most HTC phones, and Droid Turbo, Moto X (2014), Moto X (2013), MotoG (2013) and Droid Maxx/Mini/Ultra on Android 4.4.3 and lower. All modern HTC devices (m9 m7 m8 e8 Mini2 remix dna etc) devices are supported up to 7.1.1, as long as they are rootable. SunShine can work without pre-rooting all 4.4.3 and below devices, and some 4.4.4 and 5.x devices. Some 5.0 and above users will have to root with HTCDev.com. Verizon M7 5.0.x users will have to temp root with the Kingroot app. DROID TURBO 2 IS NOT SUPPORTED
Yea they don't say anything about Oreo, though. Guess we'll have to wait until someone is brave enough to try it
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Yea they don't say anything about Oreo, though. Guess we'll have to wait until someone is brave enough to try it
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My recollection is that anything past Marshmallow on the Verizon 10 and you're in mail-in territory. I can't imagine that Oreo somehow cures that.
I was on Sunshine IRC with a similar question. I bought a refurbished 10 on N and asked if I should take the O OTAs or mail it as is for unlock. The response I got is that it didn't make a difference, and that I could send it either way.
Shipped mine as was. N August 2017 update .23
Flashed the latest firmware from here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70340070&postcount=2
This one >> 3.18.605.13 Combined Firmware with stock boot.img and stock recovery removed(will NOT wipe)
Used TWRP (installed to my device with SS mail unlock service) to install the latest Oreo OS (OP prior link) with options as suggested here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76271053&postcount=624
All is well.