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Hi guys I need to make a decision to sell the z3+ and get the z5, so basically need some camera/ heat comparisons
If you have any samples please post. thanks
Hi mate
I had the Z3 for a good few months before binning it and getting the Z5.
The camera is higher quality in my opinion but the difference isn't massive unless you're looking at a direct comparison. Heat wise the Z5 gets hotter near the NFC logo under load but is cool to the touch most of the time. I find the Z3 got boiling when charging (I had the official Qi charging case) whereas the z5 stays nice and cool.
If heat is a concern, i'd look to get your hands on one before making the 2 year commitment (or whatever your contract/plan is)
Sorry I don't have any comparison shots to hand.
Carl
Actually I didn't like the camera, and definitely there is a heating problem with this phone :/
btw, do I need to buy a rapid/fast charger or the one included in the box does the job?
Z3+ Heat
Naffets said:
Hi mate
I had the Z3 for a good few months before binning it and getting the Z5.
The camera is higher quality in my opinion but the difference isn't massive unless you're looking at a direct comparison. Heat wise the Z5 gets hotter near the NFC logo under load but is cool to the touch most of the time. I find the Z3 got boiling when charging (I had the official Qi charging case) whereas the z5 stays nice and cool.
If heat is a concern, i'd look to get your hands on one before making the 2 year commitment (or whatever your contract/plan is)
Sorry I don't have any comparison shots to hand.
Carl
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Got the z3+ had some heat issues, While charging its just cool, only thing it closes soon while slow motion and AR Effects due to heat. thats the issue. So basically it has the same issue as Z3+?
If so i might stick with the z3+
I will set up my Z5 shortly. I also have a Z3+ that I'm keeping & will try to do a comparison for you after using Z5 for 2/3 days. But few things I can tell you right now
- Z3+ is camera is actually significantly better than Z3/Z2 in auto mode & yes, Z5 camera is also significantly better than Z3+ in auto, but I'll post some pictures for you to decide
- Z3+ is excellent in performance tasks like heavy browsing/multitasking. My S6 simply can't keep up with that. It's quite sad considering the hype it generated. I also regularly get 1 extra hour of SoT from Z3+ compared to S6 (& yes, it's still less than Z2's but we're talking 2015, lollipop, & octa core here). I do browse, stream, & play games a lot, but I don't watch movies on phones.
- Z5 may have better 'sustained' performance due to that extra cooling pipe, which should also answer your heat/AR mask question. I'll follow up on that.
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I will set up my Z5 shortly. I also have a Z3+ that I'm keeping & will try to do a comparison for you after using Z5 for 2/3 days. But few things I can tell you right now
- Z3+ is camera is actually significantly better than Z3/Z2 in auto mode & yes, Z5 camera is also significantly better than Z3+ in auto, but I'll post some pictures for you to decide
- Z3+ is excellent in performance tasks like heavy browsing/multitasking. My S6 simply can't keep up with that. It's quite sad considering the hype it generated. I also regularly get 1 extra hour of SoT from Z3+ compared to S6 (& yes, it's still less than Z2's but we're talking 2015, lollipop, & octa core here). I do browse, stream, & play games a lot, but I don't watch movies on phones.
- Z5 may have better 'sustained' performance due to that extra cooling pipe, which should also answer your heat/AR mask question. I'll follow up on that.
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awaiting your return.lol
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awaiting your return.lol
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Good to see you brother! Feel free to ask any questions
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Heat-wise. Z5 runs at least 5/6 degree C lower than Z3+ performing the same set of heavy tasks (I did 6/7 consecutive Antutu runs with identical starting temp on both). Dual heat pipe FTW - no kidding.
If Z3+ heating is bothering you too much, you should consider Z5. They both have the same SoC & things are not going to run any faster on Z5 (when both are cold/warm), but you'll see a big difference only if you're pushing Z3+ towards its throttling range (which you are as it sounds like). Dual heat pipe aside, Z5 should have some sw optimizations that Z3+ will probably get shortly. It should definitely make a difference.
You should also check out that 'throttle fix' thread on Z3+ forum. It makes a big difference if you go with @nfs2010 's fix. That was our second heat pipe lol If you don't like the fix, get Z5. If you do, just wait for Z6/7!
I'll post some pictures later on.
@schecter7
thanks man.actually I'm most concerned with overall speed as I have no lag what so ever on my Z2 and Z3 so I would hate it on Z5.any comments on general speed and multitasking?
also if u could do some screen comparisons that would be awesome.or comment on it.hows reflectivity?low I hope
@josephnero I've attached some pictures showing Z5 , Z3+, Z2 (left to right, also image enhancement off & default WB on all) screens in action. Z5 screen can get dimmer than the other two - I think. So for normal usage, the slider needs to be set to a higher position to get the same brightness output. Z3+ is the brightest one but I never had to use anywhere near its maximum brightness, so Z5 is totally fine. I'll post some pictures later on to compare sunlight legibility. But so far I haven't had any issue using it outdoor. You probably have to use a screen protector to avoid fingerprints.
Multitasking is great - no hiccups. It can definitely handle heavy tasks better than my Z2. Only occasional lag I have seen is on the MT window while trying to close apps. Surprisingly, it happens more often when there's only one app lol Z3+ had some similar minor bugs that they've fixed with fw updates quite fast. Overall, Z3+ feels a bit faster - UI & camera wise , but it got three updates in four months. So keep an eye on the updates if that concerns you. Z2 & Z3 both are amazing phones, so the bar is quite high - I understand
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Thanks man.Awesome job.Z5 seems a bit more reddish but we all know z3 has a cold tint.Also I remember at IFA the sony rep said new camera UI update is coming in november.hopefully it will further Improve the awesome cam
Thanks mate, hope i will stick with the z3+ for now. I don't mind it heats up as long as it does not close the awesome AR Effects/mask
Anyhow thanks for giving the comparisons
There are my samples from Z3+ and Z5.
Z3+
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8aVAm1KMRG-RWh4QS1zcjdXMms/view?usp=sharing (Inteligent Auto)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8aVAm1KMRG-dVFzcHprN0NpV0E/view?usp=sharing (Inteligent Auto)
Z5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8aVAm1KMRG-ZVFzZ3p2U2Q1ZWM/view?usp=sharing (Inteligent Auto)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8aVAm1KMRG-NUFBTTZwM2x5TTg/view?usp=sharing (Inteligent Auto)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8aVAm1KMRG-alB4MTVVTkJmd3c/view?usp=sharing (Inteligent Auto 23 MPX)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8aVAm1KMRG-dG9wYXlOcnF2ajA/view?usp=sharing (Inteligent Auto 23 MPX)
I am hoping that the new camera UI update in December will improve camera.
About heat. Z5 heats less than Z3+. Only when I am playing heavy games and using AR Effects and AR Mask Z5 heats quicker and gets hot(it doesn't close those camera apps like on Z3+) but in daily use it is little warm. And Z5 works better than Z3+ (although Z3+ works good after 2 updates) but I think Sony will fix that on Z3+ with Android 6. Battery on Z5 is almost the same as on Z3+; slightly better.
Those are main answers on your questions.
X Compact is coming up on IFA 2016
https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/768782671707148288/photo/1
I think the design is a bit more like Nokia Lumia. Not much info yet but leaking info. said 2700Mah, S650, 4.6" IPS, usb type-c, 3GB ram.
https://www.facebook.com/sonyhongkong/videos/10154558233497871/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mb7OhTrojg
Plus Sony FES Watch looks coming soon too.
They have lost their minds. Wide range of phones with specs from mid range to premium, but still premium with their prices.
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They have lost their minds. Wide range of phones with specs from mid range to premium, but still premium with their prices.
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yup, Sony is over priced, they are always expensive. I would like to know any new features or quality improvement on camera. I won't get a new compact now but if the camera is great this time, I may get it next year when it become cheaper.
Another problem is s650 get used, not s820 so we'll not supported by AndroPlus Kernel again(we need donate a x compact for AndroPlus).
The Z5C was the last great phone from Sony.
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The Z5C was the last great phone from Sony.
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CPU speed is roughly the same but s810 GPU is much faster than s650(only at S808 GPU level). So, the cpu actually is a downgrade but 3GB ram is useful. S650 should be more heat friendly but Z5c is fine after rooted and lower cpu clock.
What exactly is compact about this phone? The bezel size is one of the worst I've ever seen on a phone.
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What exactly is compact about this phone? The bezel size is one of the worst I've ever seen on a phone.
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My guess is just an early prototype, the final ver might be different.
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My guess is just an early prototype, the final ver might be different.
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It's likely a prototype bit probably not far off. This phone wouldnt make sense to buy over a 6s being that big.
civicsr2cool said:
It's likely a prototype bit probably not far off. This phone wouldnt make sense to buy over a 6s being that big.
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/08/25/xperia-xz-and-xperia-x-compact-confirmed-on-sony-site/
The Sony Mobile Czech site has confirmed that the two handsets to launch at IFA next week will be called the Xperia XZ and Xperia X Compact. Looks like Sony has found a way to get the ‘Z’ branding back into its phones to denote the flagship device.
LOL .... X & Z = XZ
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CPU speed is roughly the same but s810 GPU is much faster than s650(only at S808 GPU level). So, the cpu actually is a downgrade but 3GB ram is useful. S650 should be more heat friendly but Z5c is fine after rooted and lower cpu clock.
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so true!!
Z5C faster also better GPU basemark X z5c= 30K , X = 15K ,50% less ( regular Z5=23K) compact faster because screen resolution is720P and not 1080P
at CPU level only when the heat start to kick, X will faster from Z5 (really by little bit and not always)
only x performance has faster cpu but for gaming its the same, again because the resolution: look at the result i uploaded
the only "down side" for Z5c is low RAM . but they say for 720P resolution 2GB its good enough , (although already reached only 250MB free RAM on really heavy games)
i wonder if Z5 will have the same free RAM with the same games
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so true!!
Z5C faster also better GPU basemark X z5c= 30K , X = 15K ,50% less ( regular Z5=23K) compact faster because screen resolution is720P and not 1080P
at CPU level only when the heat start to kick, X will faster from Z5 (really by little bit and not always)
only x performance has faster cpu but for gaming its the same, again because the resolution: look at the result i uploaded
the only "down side" for Z5c is low RAM . but they say for 720P resolution 2GB its good enough , (although already reached only 250MB free RAM on really heavy games)
i wonder if Z5 will have the same free RAM with the same games
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The XC prototype should be sd650 and retail ver still have chance to use sd820 but I think the whole idea is switch to a cheaper CPU and free up budget to get 3GB ram. Overall a fair trade. Some rumors claimed XC will use 4.6" FHD if that is ture together with s650 will got a big performace hit on gaming and probably battery life even worse than Z5c.
I think Sony MM memory management not optimized or MM really consumed more ram, or both. We can only debloat the rom and use greenify donated to free up more ram.
Gaming on 720P will use texture at a lower resolution.
Sony Xperia X Compact goes official
Snapdragon 650? So the compact is now midrange? Sigh
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Sony Xperia X Compact goes official
Snapdragon 650? So the compact is now midrange? Sigh
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Mid range and not so compact. In other news I bought my first iPhone yesterday and put my Sony up for sale.
Well, at least z5c will be even more cheaper... Kaz, who ever is a head of sony mobile needs to be shot to the sun with a cannon and a switch has to be done. I see vaio destiny for Sony mobile.
Anyone think Sony will price this mid-ranger at $300? Yeah, probably not but I hope to be proved wrong.
The XC is ****, jeez. How bad are they wanting to get their phones...
I'm ranking XC as better than Z5C :
XC > Z5C :
slightly same cpu performance and better heat dicipation
better gpu performance
3gb of ram
better camera performance
better fingerprint reader
usb type-C
better design (personal taste)
support will last longer
XC < Z5C:
no ip68 (like other oem's cared before pfff)
type of ram (DDR3)
plastic instead of frosted glass (really liked the feel of it)
If the price stays bellow 400$ Xperia X Compact is a really good phone and I will buy it
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I'm ranking XC as better than Z5C :
XC > Z5C :
slitly same cpu performance and better heat dicipation
better gpu performance
3gb of ram
better camera performance
usb type-C
better design (personal taste)
support will last longer
XC < Z5C:
no ip68 (like other oem's cared before pfff)
type of ram (DDR3)
plastic instead of frosted glass (really liked the feel of it)
If the price stays bellow 400$ Xperia X Compact is a really good phone and I will buy it
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We will see about heat
From videos I hate new design
Really only camera is better (?) in x compact. Not worth an upgrade.
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I'm ranking XC as better than Z5C :
XC > Z5C :
slightly same cpu performance and better heat dicipation
better gpu performance
3gb of ram
better camera performance
better fingerprint reader
usb type-C
better design (personal taste)
support will last longer
XC < Z5C:
no ip68 (like other oem's cared before pfff)
type of ram (DDR3)
plastic instead of frosted glass (really liked the feel of it)
If the price stays bellow 400$ Xperia X Compact is a really good phone and I will buy it
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Both SD650 and SD810 only used 28nm HPM but SD650 replaced the big core from A57 to A72(and reduced to Hexcore) should improve hot issue and battery life but I don't expect as much improvement of SD820. SD810 GPU much faster bcoz SD650 gpu only identical to SD808 gpu.
I don't like the XC design, I think my Z1c and Z5c much better but the color on XC looks good.
Sony removed 4K recording from XC though we can enable 4K with root just like other X series's phones but we got to use 3rd apps to shoot 4K. Hence, the new 5-axis steadyshot is only available to FHD bcoz 3rd apps can't use it.
Official support from Sony is longer but I doubt we will get many support from XDA this time bcoz our CPU is different now and just can't port from XZ directly like we did on Z1c, Z3c and Z5c.
Correction:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-x-performance/how-to/root-how-to-enable-sonys-4k-video-t3406075
XC should be able to use official 4K sony app with root follow this method but not sure if the 5-axis steadyshot still work.
algiuz said:
Adreon 430 > Adreon 510
We will see about heat
From videos I hate new design
Really only camera is better (?) in x compact. Not worth an upgrade.
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Yes. It's safe to say only 3GB ram and camera is better and others are downgraded. I would like to see how good of the new camera bcoz I don't satisfy with Z5c.
If they real improve the camera, I may switch to XC next year but really, I don't think worth to do it, sticking with Z5c and wait XC2 is a better choice for most of us.
its a tough one!
XZP v/s Z5P , (too soon to compare) but what i have read and compare from atricles
XZP has 19mp / 13mp cameras where z5p has 23mp / 5mp
XZP dsds but standby second sim, meaning it has combo tray. you decide now you want sdcard OR second sim ???
Z5P comes with dedicated sdcard Slot
XZP -->Octa-core (4x2.45 GHz Kryo & 4x1.9 GHz Kryo) where Z5POcta-core (4x1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 & 4x2.0 GHz Cortex-A57) so the second set of cores are faster by .1ghz in z5p and first set of cors are faster by 1ghz in XZP
XZP records videos on higher frame rates in HDR , Z5p recordes on regular frame rates
screen sizes are 5.5 for both
Xzp has 4gb ram (wow), z5p has 3gb
Xzp has 4g+ technology and four receptors to comminate with network better. Z5p is equiped with regular 4g technology
Z5p is heavy, its a task to hold this phablet phone! where xzp is relatively heaver than z5p
now the very strange thing!
z5p has relatively BIGGER batter 3430MAH
XZP is 3230mAH,,,,
i am thinking i should buy both as they say...
" THE best way to #enhance your #superPowers is to #JOIN another one! "
XZP dsds but standby second sim, meaning it has combo tray. you decide now you want sdcard OR second sim ???
Z5P comes with dedicated sdcard Slot
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Are you sure about this? I never had a DSDS model, but would guess, it's the same for Z5P.
Not to forget: XZP has Bluetooth 5.0 as well as USB-C with USB 3.1 AND UFS-memory (internal)!
A newer bluetooth-chip can't do harm and USB-C is nice for it's reversible plug. UFS should give us some advantage in combination with USB 3.1 regarding transfer rates.
I, for my part, am definitely switching, when it'll be available.
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Are you sure about this? I never had a DSDS model, but would guess, it's the same for Z5P.
Not to forget: XZP has Bluetooth 5.0 as well as USB-C with USB 3.1 AND UFS-memory (internal)!
A newer bluetooth-chip can't do harm and USB-C is nice for it's reversible plug. UFS should give us some advantage in combination with USB 3.1 regarding transfer rates.
I, for my part, am definitely switching, when it'll be available.
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- oh yes thanks for mentioning about the usb3.1 cable, its not common yet so other xperia chargers / cables wont plug in!
- yes its dsds standby second sim,, XZP is successor of XZ and XZ had hybrid tray
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot//reviews/16/sony-xperia-xz/gal/-1024x768w1/gsmarena_010.jpg
- 28 April 2017 will be the offical release date
- btw, even i am thinking seriously buy it
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- oh yes thanks for mentioning about the usb3.1 cable, its not common yet so other xperia chargers / cables wont plug in!
- yes its dsds standby second sim,, XZP is successor of XZ and XZ had hybrid tray
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot//reviews/16/sony-xperia-xz/gal/-1024x768w1/gsmarena_010.jpg
- 28 April 2017 will be the offical release date
- btw, even i am thinking seriously buy it
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Also XZP has Snapdragon 835 vs the Z5P 810, significantly better processor overall and should be significantly cooler/power friendly.
XZP screen is also 10-bit HDR, and I love the new design look.
My biggest with that probably won't happen is if Sony gets it certified by T-Mobile for VoLTE and maybe even VoWifi in the US, and fixes the bug in Xperia Roms where Google messenger can't send group MMS. Probably not happening though, but I'm definitely upgrading to it once my Z5P dies (already on the way there, I only have estimated 2900mAH left as max battery charge).
yeah, its a good upgrade. but i think i'll pass this one. will get new phone if miles ahead of comparison from my Z5P.
mharckk said:
yeah, its a good upgrade. but i think i'll pass this one. will get new phone if miles ahead of comparison from my Z5P.
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thank you for making decision easier for me! i am so tempted to buy this one where my z5p is almost untouched and i have taken extreme care of z5p by accquiring extra protectors and bumpy leather book covers. i even bought secondary phone for gym time avoid risking z5p getting dropped or screen getting crushed in pocket while i am pumping iron!
this is XZP
i am sure sony will have something XZ2P or XZ3P in future having 5G , 6gb ram, 128gb advance hardware of snapdragon processors and asu said miles ahead of comparision from my z5p
Its a good upgrade. Hopefully the camera isnt as **** as it is on the ZP
The main point here is this:
Will 4K content be fully supported ????
In Z5P 4K is only supported in very specific Sony apps, not supported for example in Youtube.
I'm afraid that this will not change with XZP, again only specific apps will be supported.
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The main point here is this:
Will 4K content be fully supported ????
In Z5P 4K is only supported in very specific Sony apps, not supported for example in Youtube.
I'm afraid that this will not change with XZP, again only specific apps will be supported.
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Part of my fears, too. What gives me hope is the fact, that sony announced that amazon prime video will take advantage of the 4k and HDR! I don't think (and hope!), they won't make an extra app for sony. IIRC, netflix CEO gave some hints, pointing out something similar, too...
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The main point here is this:
Will 4K content be fully supported ????
In Z5P 4K is only supported in very specific Sony apps, not supported for example in Youtube.
I'm afraid that this will not change with XZP, again only specific apps will be supported.
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they cannot make 4k default resolution! the battery life will be horrible!
i am affraid it will be ONLY for 4k movies when played!
also the combo tray is killing me!
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they cannot make 4k default resolution! the battery life will be horrible!
i am affraid it will be ONLY for 4k movies when played!
also the combo tray is killing me!
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Doesn't brightness affect battery life more than resolution? For example, what would use more battery; 1080p at max brightness or 4K but with adaptive on?
Anyway, Sony don't have my interest with the XZP. An XZP Ultra on the other hand...
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Doesn't brightness affect battery life more than resolution? For example, what would use more battery; 1080p at max brightness or 4K but with adaptive on?
Anyway, Sony don't have my interest with the XZP. An XZP Ultra on the other hand...
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they both contributes with combination
low brightness no 4k < low brightness + 4k < High brightness no4k < High brightness+4k
however Z5p's defualt max brightness was always kept less than its predecessor to protect heatup issues
as device heats up! the brightness automatically goes down (even if you have kept adaptive brightness off)
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they cannot make 4k default resolution! the battery life will be horrible!
i am affraid it will be ONLY for 4k movies when played!
also the combo tray is killing me!
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Giving you the option would be the best. At the moment there is simply no option and because of that you can even see 4k youtube, not even 2k.
I also have a hidden hope that with the release of XZP 4k will be enabled also for Z5P even for specific apps still but more apps than only the Sony ones.
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Giving you the option would be the best. At the moment there is simply no option and because of that you can even see 4k youtube, not even 2k.
I also have a hidden hope that with the release of XZP 4k will be enabled also for Z5P even for specific apps still but more apps than only the Sony ones.
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well since i have rooted z5p
and @tobias script for rootkernel 5.23 supports kcal
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/dev-kcal-advanced-color-control-t3032080
you can always do something more to save battery!
once xz series has rootkernel support, wonders can be done!
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xzs-review-1600.php
Well sad for low light performance
Xperia z5 premium
It's fine in low light. I took this photo with one lamp on at the other end of the room for the watch photo. No lights on for the Pringles (there was a window about 6 ft away), and a 60watt bulb over head on the V20 phone photo.
Thanks for the infohow about the heat? Especially in terms of gaming?
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Since the XZ Sony's haven't been as hot as the z5. The z5 got really hot. So the XZ & the XZs warms up but it is not much hotter than say, the galaxy s7, V20 or M9. Gaming is smoother and looks better on the XZ & the XZs--- it's a litter better than any other device i've played on , that includes, S7, M9, Iphone 6s plus. I thought the s7 would have looked better with it's Amoled display, but it isn't. Colors are great but not as good as the XZ or XZs.
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Thanks for the infohow about the heat? Especially in terms of gaming?
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Thanks for the help. Hows the slow mo is it really good?
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I'ts remarkable . However, it is you should know that it has a shorter zoom and records at 720p. I t also looks better in good lighting.
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Thanks for the help. Hows the slow mo is it really good?
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As I'm owning an Xperia Z5, since a year and a half, I still find that the Z was the most popular and really well supported device, so many ROMs, kernels, mods, themes and just everything, even Sony supported it for a long period of time, but the biggest part was the people who spent hours to make the best for it, it's such a legend, made by Sony, and the people continued to make it better.
It's a bit sad that I am pretty disappointed with my Z5, it didn't make me happy like the Z, and from the development side? It's nothing compared to what the Z has gotten..
Thanks for reading and have a great day!
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As I'm owning an Xperia Z5, since a year and a half, I still find that the Z was the most popular and really well supported device, so many ROMs, kernels, mods, themes and just everything, even Sony supported it for a long period of time, but the biggest part was the people who spent hours to make the best for it, it's such a legend, made by Sony, and the people continued to make it better.
It's a bit sad that I am pretty disappointed with my Z5, it didn't make me happy like the Z, and from the development side? It's nothing compared to what the Z has gotten..
Thanks for reading and have a great day!
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I know, and I still using it for daily.
May I know details of every things that make you disappointed on your Z5? Because I have a plan to upgrade my device, either Z5c or the latest XZ1c.
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I know, and I still using it for daily.
May I know details of every things that make you disappointed on your Z5? Because I have a plan to upgrade my device, either Z5c or the latest XZ1c.
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The Z5 lacks a lot of development and support, if you don't care about that then it's not the only issue, the Snapdragon 810 literally sucks! A lot of heat (running at over 50°C all the time) and terrible performance for an octa core CPU, Especially in games, even some cheap Chinese phones performance better, however it's an improvement over the Z, just not that much of an improvement as I expected.
It's not the phone's fault, just the Snapdragon 810 chip, and it's not the only one.
However I highly recommend avoiding any device with a Snapdragon 810 CPU because of the heat, bad performance and battery draining (I barely get 3 hours of screen on time), and I also recommend getting the Xperia XZ Premium, it has a 4K screen and a bigger battery unlike the XZ1 line.
More about the Z5:
Screen: meh, it has a blueish tint that makes the whites aren't so white, the TFT screen on the Z was better except outdoors.
Camera: good but not great, especially indoors, pretty noisy, 4K recording isn't so wow and the 120fps slow motion is too dark and low quality IMO, But it does pretty well in good lighting conditions.
Speakers: not so good, but I was able to get them louder after installing a mod.
Software: the Android 7.1.1 is the last update that the device will probably get, the nougat was a failure on the Z5 and XZ though, so I'm still using marshmallow.
So it's a fine device at the end but if you can go for newer devices like the XZ Premium then you better do!
androidfreak70 said:
The Z5 lacks a lot of development and support, if you don't care about that then it's not the only issue, the Snapdragon 810 literally sucks! A lot of heat (running at over 50°C all the time) and terrible performance for an octa core CPU, Especially in games, even some cheap Chinese phones performance better, however it's an improvement over the Z, just not that much of an improvement as I expected.
It's not the phone's fault, just the Snapdragon 810 chip, and it's not the only one.
However I highly recommend avoiding any device with a Snapdragon 810 CPU because of the heat, bad performance and battery draining (I barely get 3 hours of screen on time), and I also recommend getting the Xperia XZ Premium, it has a 4K screen and a bigger battery unlike the XZ1 line.
More about the Z5:
Screen: meh, it has a blueish tint that makes the whites aren't so white, the TFT screen on the Z was better except outdoors.
Camera: good but not great, especially indoors, pretty noisy, 4K recording isn't so wow and the 120fps slow motion is too dark and low quality IMO, But it does pretty well in good lighting conditions.
Speakers: not so good, but I was able to get them louder after installing a mod.
Software: the Android 7.1.1 is the last update that the device will probably get, the nougat was a failure on the Z5 and XZ though, so I'm still using marshmallow.
So it's a fine device at the end but if you can go for newer devices like the XZ Premium then you better do!
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I know about SD810 heating problem. It sucks, but till now, only Z5 family available in my country (so sad). XZ premium was great but I don't like a phone that has screen more than 5 inch. That's why I'm looking for XZ1c. 4K screen is not a big deal for me.
Thanks for sharing.
Zerikwan said:
I know about SD810 heating problem. It sucks, but till now, only Z5 family available in my country (so sad). XZ premium was great but I don't like a phone that has screen more than 5 inch. That's why I'm looking for XZ1c. 4K screen is not a big deal for me.
Thanks for sharing.
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I don't think the XZ1c would disappoint you either, it has nearly the same hardware as the XZP except for the screen and battery, and also, wait for them to come to your country, don't be in hurry.