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If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
well done.. at last .. no more spam in topics
Thank-you PiLoT... all three of those were driving me nuts! People seem to think that this is an unmoderated site and they can do and say what they want.. so i'm pleased to see some decisive action!
Thank you, finally !
2.1 upgrade topics could also be filtered.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769198
What if I wanted to make a thread talking about how the lack of multitouch caused the low in-call volume to drain the battery while *****ing about how the lack of Android 4.3 on the device created these problems?
Then I delete it and warn you
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
Very good... Those are annoying post...
updated to include stuff about 2.1
This is a bit like banning commonly available substances, when half of society are already substance abusers.
but, now that i have made a sticky saying that i dont want new threads then there should be less opened
After having read the post today where now get a more acurate date on Eclair I see that to mention this on this forum is not aloved anymore and the auther was banned as this relates to 2.1
Does that mean when someone in here gets there first download of 2.1 and wants to let everyone know then this will be deleted ?
Also from my point of view I find it very easy to look at the headlines of any post to se if it is relevant or not for me if 2.1 is not relevant and to hear anything get me going into red . then I tend to simply not read it
I find mederation a great thing as without things seems to go ...... but to simply say 2.1 we dont want to hear about it or even the constant talk about the volume but realy i find it soooo easy to read arround this
Foul language or other unpleasentness should be banned right away
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NiJunge said:
After having read the post today where now get a more acurate date on Eclair I see that to mention this on this forum is not aloved anymore and the auther was banned as this relates to 2.1
Does that mean when someone in here gets there first download of 2.1 and wants to let everyone know then this will be deleted ?
Also from my point of view I find it very easy to look at the headlines of any post to se if it is relevant or not for me if 2.1 is not relevant and to hear anything get me going into red . then I tend to simply not read it
I find mederation a great thing as without things seems to go ...... but to simply say 2.1 we dont want to hear about it or even the constant talk about the volume but realy i find it soooo easy to read arround this
Foul language or other unpleasentness should be banned right away
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the issue with that model is thats you
a lot of people cant just ignore posts and they decide to flame giving more things to do
so rather than let them flame i take the oprtunity away from them
I strongly disagree with the closure of the thread "2.1 Eclair Date Confirmed". It was an useful thread, it added precious information, it is not the standard "when will 2.1 released???" forbidden in this thread.
I would hereby request to the moderator has closed it to reopen it.
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the issue with that model is thats you
a lot of people cant just ignore posts and they decide to flame giving more things to do
so rather than let them flame i take the oprtunity away from them
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and I take issue with your incredibly heavy handed moderating.
My post earlier was obviously a joke, which flew way over your head.
Now, everyone hates multiple threads on the same topic, but, the guy who actually posted proof and a real date should not of had his topic closed.
I'll write it here in simple English... I've said this before, btw:
No one wants to read a million rumor threads about the same topic, but, when someone has information with proof, they should never be silenced. Otherwise, you completely destroy the purpose of this message board, and it will lose members quickly.
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and I take issue with your incredibly heavy handed moderating.
My post earlier was obviously a joke, which flew way over your head.
Now, everyone hates multiple threads on the same topic, but, the guy who actually posted proof and a real date should not of had his topic closed.
I'll write it here in simple English... I've said this before, btw:
No one wants to read a million rumor threads about the same topic, but, when someone has information with proof, they should never be silenced. Otherwise, you completely destroy the purpose of this message board, and it will lose members quickly.
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+1. At this rate we will need a moderator for the moderator. LOL
PiLoTs on a rampage
by no means is my moderating heavy handed
the thread 2.1 Eclair Date Confirmed was closed becuase that piece of information was provided previously in the thread Android 2.1 week 38 which you would have realised if you had searched and read the forum before blindly accusing me of heavy handed moderating
also when you take into consideration
2.1 over 1.6 benefits
2.1 upgrade news from seinsider
[video] 2.1 for X10 relased ??
Played with 2.1 on x10 today!!
Waiting For Update><
Xperia x10 Multi-touch and updates after 2.1
all within the first five pages of general, not counting deleted threads
thats a lot of thereads to be looking after especially since they are all roughly the same topic and most of the replies turn into flaming.
no i apologise if you think im being heavy handed but when there's at atleast 3 topics a day of the exact same thing and they each get20 replies of nastiness i can either read 60 posts and delete the bad ones or i can stop a war early by closing the thread
Ahhh moderation is a ***** folks...
Hey gang.
Totally in agreement with you guys.
The moderators need moderators to ensure us of a "real moderation service" for this board.
It is not the first time I see good threads closed by our current jokers.
(I agree irrelevant post should be removed, but who and how is decided what is relevant?).
Plus to be quite honest, this is far from being the most organized blog on the subject.
On the plus note, if you dig far enough, you'll find anything on this site concerning your phone, you just sadly have to go over the entire section to find some infos, wich oftenly is embeded in a maze of post, wich is time consumming and somewhat pointless.(Keep in mind, I work 45 hours a week, I'm an lyricist and write a lot, then comes the gf, the kids and a rather extensive social life. So I have about 25 to 35 minutes a week to go over my gadgets and toys. XD )
It sadly seems the people over here somewhat forgot we are not all hardcore techno wiz with illimited time to play with our toys.
And to be quite honest, the attitude problem of a lot of them is somewhat starting to be a turn off.
I've exchanged words with one of them before and the smugness of that dude was, well, ginormous.
So I leave you on this, I have already made my mind:
1- this site is only good for root/roms/mods.
2- For real service concerning news on our phones, I will go elsewhere.
3- lastly, I believe the current moderator failed their mandate, wich should only be making sure the post are relevant or non-aggressive and mainly get their heads of their asses and realize that this is a service site and all questions are good(keep in mind most people around the globe can't understand **** about the software/hardware of their phones).
Peace to you all,
No hard felling XDA, I just call it how I see it.
Love you guys,
XIII
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by no means is my moderating heavy handed
the thread 2.1 Eclair Date Confirmed was closed becuase that piece of information was provided previously in the thread Android 2.1 week 38 which you would have realised if you had searched and read the forum before blindly accusing me of heavy handed moderating
also when you take into consideration
2.1 over 1.6 benefits
2.1 upgrade news from seinsider
[video] 2.1 for X10 relased ??
Played with 2.1 on x10 today!!
Waiting For Update><
Xperia x10 Multi-touch and updates after 2.1
all within the first five pages of general, not counting deleted threads
thats a lot of thereads to be looking after especially since they are all roughly the same topic and most of the replies turn into flaming.
no i apologise if you think im being heavy handed but when there's at atleast 3 topics a day of the exact same thing and they each get20 replies of nastiness i can either read 60 posts and delete the bad ones or i can stop a war early by closing the thread
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Well apart from all of them dealing with eclair they are all different subjects. Just looking at a topic, seeing the characters 2.1 and then locking or deleting it is either lazy moderation or indicating a total lack of reading comprehension. Well, to be fair, the fifth topic title is a tad ambiguous so I'll give you that.
i see your point
but they all have the issue of 2.1 at their core which means theyre all essentially the same issue
and under the same pressure from people asking me to close threads and new threads opened. i called it the way i see it
also there was mention of "if i want real service ill go to another site site and this site is only good for roms root and development well this site is called xda-DEVELOPERS we do mainly appeal to developers and its only recently its catered more to end users
IF you all think there should be one topic on the release of 2.1 then i will create and sticky a thread for the talk of 2.1 only
THREAD IS MOVED HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28131167&posted=1#post28131167
Considering there is no support to anyone using CheckROM on XDA as the thread was closed. I have created this thread for people to list issues with the ROM or any themes, fixes or general ROM related problems.
I tried this once before a moment ago but it was closed by conantroutman because he is a really cool guy and obviously incredibly intelligent and knows exactly what has happened.
Originally Posted by uppon2
Under what rights did you close that thread? It was a general discussion thread for CheckROM.
General discussion means anything general. I believe you have no grounds to stand on closing that thread. Prove me wrong
First of all, this "general discussion" thread is nothing more than a thinly veiled excuse for you to rant about the fact that this particular ROM is not being updated as quickly as you would like and/or because the developers have decided to focus on a newer device over the SGSII. That is their decision, deal with it.
As for the problem with checkrom.com, that's a checkrom.com issue not an XDA-Developers issue. Take it up via the proper channels. (Hint, XDA is not the proper channel)
As I said before, if you have an issue with somebody, resolve it via PM. Due to the way you have chosen to word the OP this thread would only lead to you being flamed and we wouldn't want that now would we?.
This is a development forum, not a place for gossip and idle chit chat.
These are the grounds upon which I stand, consider yourself proven wrong.
I appreciate that you're a little miffed so here's a particularly adorable kitten to cheer you up. Have a nice day.
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You forgot to post this PM I also sent to you
Uppon2 = I don't need to contact anybody by PM by the way? Why would I need to do that. I am just laying out the truth in a general fashion. I think every man and his dog have sent them many PMs and requests for an explanation about their lies. Don't come along all high and mighty without reason dude.
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He never responded to either of my PMs even considering that is what to do first. Instead he posted it in the thread like a hero and gave me no chance to defend myself.
I was never trying to say anything else other than GadgetCheck and Leomar hyped up an unreleased ROM encouraged people to donate and took donations only to not actually do anything they said they were going to do. They have a donate button for a reason. To encourage further development (Which was already told was happening months ago) and to also give them a pat on their backs for what they have done already. I know for a fact many users donated solely on the fact there was going to be an ICS release as soon as jkay was ready and then again in June (Both times it never happened)
Now you can close this thread again, you can ban me, mute me and do anthing your powers provide. It is just solidifying my argument about CheckROM and proving that you're a macho moderator.
I am putting money on it that this thread will be closed. THERE IS NO REASON TO CLOSE IT. I'm not taking peoples money and running. Let the public speak.
I am not trying to get unbanned from checkrom.com I don't even care, my point was to strengthen my original argument of being mislead. And proved it I did
If you had actually read everything in my original thread you would have still closed it but you wouldn't have replied the way you did mate.
I posted this here on purpose to get the attention of certain people. I do apologise for my actions and I was a bit of a douche
If you have a problem with a moderator, take it up with the moderator committee, instead of creating a thread in a development section.
Cheers.
Mods seem to be going on a closing spree here and I fail to understand why
How can a topic for discussing bugs (and serious for that matter) be just dumped along in the KitKat 4.4 thread. All discussion/news/rumors here! topic?
Does not seem practical that I have to read 157 odd pages to check if an issue I have is genuine or not and if it has been discussed.
I had an issue with 4.4.2 and S-view in relation to alarms as discussed here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50792737 and the thread was closed! No, this was not moaning ... it was a real bug, but no, the mods think it should be merged into a general thread.
Others had an issue with their email app and that thread was closed too!
Don't bugs report need to stand out? Having a topic specially for Bug report thread would help reduce a number of unnecessary threads from being opened as people will know where they are to discuss it.
Why is it that 4.2 and 4.3 discussions are spared but all KitKat related stuff need to go in one place? Averse to chocolates? Size conscious? The way I see it, with the current trend of closures, all we needed was a single topic "Android phones" and everything related to phones could go in there!
Please for the sake of common sense ... open a thread for OS related Bug reports and let us have a more streamlined discussion there.
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Mods seem to be going on a closing spree here and I fail to understand why
How can a topic for discussing bugs (and serious for that matter) be just dumped along in the KitKat 4.4 thread. All discussion/news/rumors here! topic?
Does not seem practical that I have to read 157 odd pages to check if an issue I have is genuine or not and if it has been discussed.
I had an issue with 4.4.2 and S-view in relation to alarms as discussed here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50792737 and the thread was closed! No, this was not moaning ... it was a real bug, but no, the mods think it should be merged into a general thread.
Others had an issue with their email app and that thread was closed too!
Don't bugs report need to stand out? Having a topic specially for Bug report thread would help reduce a number of unnecessary threads from being opened as people will know where they are to discuss it.
Why is it that 4.2 and 4.3 discussions are spared but all KitKat related stuff need to go in one place? Averse to chocolates? Size conscious? The way I see it, with the current trend of closures, all we needed was a single topic "Android phones" and everything related to phones could go in there!
Please for the sake of common sense ... open a thread for OS related Bug reports and let us have a more streamlined discussion there.
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don't find anything wrong with it..
They don't want it to spread into numerous threads,and want everything to be in one place..
About reading 157 pages,there is a reasonthat search option was introduced...make used of it...
and,quite frankly,I will rather read 200 pages than roaming xda looking for a specific thread..
Sent from my GT-I9500
I've given up trying to reason with this moderation team. Ever since the device teams got re-arranged sometime last year it just went down the toilet as a discussion platform. The S3 had awesome moderators and some other forums still do. You just need to browse around and see the difference.
As long as moderators consider themselves editors then it will continue to go downhill.
It's sad/ironical because this thread itself is going to get closed soon. Give it a couple of hours.
Yeah funny cause this thread has nothing to with the s4..
Just someone whinning about having to do some research before posting...
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app
I'm glad someone brought this up. I've even tried complaining against a couple of the mods. Apparently they're allowed to do as they please.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app
Mod Edit
If people followed the XDA RULES , there would be no need for Moderation.
Unfortunately...that is not the case.
Thread closed
malybru
Forum Moderator
Ok, so something weird happened today. For some reason, I've been banned from the official forums for "spam". The notice says to contact a forum admin, but there isn't any way to do so. I have never posted any spam so I'm not sure why this happened. If an admin from the official forum sees this or if someone would please contact an admin, I would like to discuss and appeal this. Thank you.
ZiQn3zZ said:
Ok, so something weird happened today. For some reason, I've been banned from the official forums for "spam". The notice says to contact a forum admin, but there isn't any way to do so. I have never posted any spam so I'm not sure why this happened. If an admin from the official forum sees this or if someone would please contact an admin, I would like to discuss and appeal this. Thank you.
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Hi I just read this message, you can't be banned or you wouldn't be able to post this. If you can forward any email/message you got then I will look at it for you
Regards
Sawdoctor
sawdoctor said:
Hi I just read this message, you can't be banned or you wouldn't be able to post this. If you can forward any email/message you got then I will look at it for you
Regards
Sawdoctor
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I'm not banned from XDA. I'm banned from the Official Phoenix OS Forum. But, their forum is a bit lower quality than XDA. There's always spam bots posting things about medications, women, travel trips, stuff in Russian, etc. As I said above, I wouldn't ask here at all, but even though the message says to contact their forum admin, they have no such way to do so.
ZiQn3zZ said:
I'm not banned from XDA. I'm banned from the Official Phoenix OS Forum. But, their forum is a bit lower quality than XDA. There's always spam bots posting things about medications, women, travel trips, stuff in Russian, etc. As I said above, I wouldn't ask here at all, but even though the message says to contact their forum admin, they have no such way to do so.
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you should have said so ... other forum registrations / bans / issues aren`t our area of interest though you may be able to find someone to guide or advice you
Thread moved to this q&a section now , this doesn`t belong to Miscellaneous Android Development
Thanks for understanding
Dan
If you read the OP, I did say so. I started this topic in the correct forum. This is the only other place that some of the users/mods of Phoenix OS use besides the official forums. Therefore, it's the only place such an issue would be seen and sent to the correct people. Please, move this topic back to where it was.
ZiQn3zZ said:
If you read the OP, I did say so. I started this topic in the correct forum. This is the only other place that some of the users/mods of Phoenix OS use besides the official forums. Therefore, it's the only place such an issue would be seen and sent to the correct people. Please, move this topic back to where it was.
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This threads turns out to a "who's right and who's wrong" thread and becomes useless
Again, you did not mention on your first post which forum you seemed to be banned, you said "official forum" and we thought you were talking about xda official forum not that external website where, read what I've said above
And second, Miscellaneous Android development is NOT the correct place here on XDA to post questions /issues whatever because you think it is more visible , this is the place
I might also remove the link from your post as the xda rules does not allow advertising or encouraging the users to participate or whatever on external websites for mobile phones
If this discussion derails more than has been already happening , can be easily closed as irrelevant for the XDA's forum topics
You may use the pm function for further concerns
Thank you
I woke up today to people hating me because I posted the SIXRom link on XDA. 1st of all I am sorry about that. I thought I was actually doing a favor but now it seems like the rom is down and a guy on youtube is saying I am a d*ck because it was my fault. I looked a the xda rules and I did not find anything saying that it was not allowed. Also it was going to go adventually down but I am not trying to put the blame on anyone. I am writing this to say sorry to all the people and to hopefully tell the guy who posted this youtube video Tanksteel Edit - people in the Android 8.0 thread can post this link but I can't? to stop telling everyone to blame me and that I am a d*ck because I am really not, I was just trying to help people on xda. I am also saying this so no one else makes this mistake and hopefully the sixrom dev will put the link back up.
Sincerely,
Tanksteel
@Tanksteel Most people here are grateful for your intentions so don't take it all too personal. Have a read here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/thread-t3603186
Posting someone else's work in the development section without even asking them for permission makes the development hard to follow and not really kind toward the author of the development. The developer already has a thread in the development section. He would release it there. Creating a new thread where he does not have control will summon noobs with millions of questions which would be hard to track. Either way, remember to always ask for permission before posting anything on XDA if the work is not your own and if it's not your own and you have gotten permission then it belongs in the General section and not in the development section.
As I said, your intentions were good and forget about what has happened here and just look forward ?
Tanksteel said:
I woke up today to people hating me because I posted the SIXRom link on XDA. 1st of all I am sorry about that. I thought I was actually doing a favor but now it seems like the rom is down and a guy on youtube is saying I am a d*ck because it was my fault. I looked a the xda rules and I did not find anything saying that it was not allowed. Also it was going to go adventually down but I am not trying to put the blame on anyone. I am writing this to say sorry to all the people and to hopefully tell the guy who posted this youtube video Tanksteel Edit - people in the Android 8.0 thread can post this link but I can't? to stop telling everyone to blame me and that I am a d*ck because I am really not, I was just trying to help people on xda. I am also saying this so no one else makes this mistake and hopefully the sixrom dev will put the link back up.
Sincerely,
Tanksteel
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Understood and Thread Closed.