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If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
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Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
well done.. at last .. no more spam in topics
Thank-you PiLoT... all three of those were driving me nuts! People seem to think that this is an unmoderated site and they can do and say what they want.. so i'm pleased to see some decisive action!
Thank you, finally !
2.1 upgrade topics could also be filtered.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769198
What if I wanted to make a thread talking about how the lack of multitouch caused the low in-call volume to drain the battery while *****ing about how the lack of Android 4.3 on the device created these problems?
Then I delete it and warn you
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Very good... Those are annoying post...
updated to include stuff about 2.1
This is a bit like banning commonly available substances, when half of society are already substance abusers.
but, now that i have made a sticky saying that i dont want new threads then there should be less opened
After having read the post today where now get a more acurate date on Eclair I see that to mention this on this forum is not aloved anymore and the auther was banned as this relates to 2.1
Does that mean when someone in here gets there first download of 2.1 and wants to let everyone know then this will be deleted ?
Also from my point of view I find it very easy to look at the headlines of any post to se if it is relevant or not for me if 2.1 is not relevant and to hear anything get me going into red . then I tend to simply not read it
I find mederation a great thing as without things seems to go ...... but to simply say 2.1 we dont want to hear about it or even the constant talk about the volume but realy i find it soooo easy to read arround this
Foul language or other unpleasentness should be banned right away
N
NiJunge said:
After having read the post today where now get a more acurate date on Eclair I see that to mention this on this forum is not aloved anymore and the auther was banned as this relates to 2.1
Does that mean when someone in here gets there first download of 2.1 and wants to let everyone know then this will be deleted ?
Also from my point of view I find it very easy to look at the headlines of any post to se if it is relevant or not for me if 2.1 is not relevant and to hear anything get me going into red . then I tend to simply not read it
I find mederation a great thing as without things seems to go ...... but to simply say 2.1 we dont want to hear about it or even the constant talk about the volume but realy i find it soooo easy to read arround this
Foul language or other unpleasentness should be banned right away
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the issue with that model is thats you
a lot of people cant just ignore posts and they decide to flame giving more things to do
so rather than let them flame i take the oprtunity away from them
I strongly disagree with the closure of the thread "2.1 Eclair Date Confirmed". It was an useful thread, it added precious information, it is not the standard "when will 2.1 released???" forbidden in this thread.
I would hereby request to the moderator has closed it to reopen it.
-PiLoT- said:
the issue with that model is thats you
a lot of people cant just ignore posts and they decide to flame giving more things to do
so rather than let them flame i take the oprtunity away from them
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and I take issue with your incredibly heavy handed moderating.
My post earlier was obviously a joke, which flew way over your head.
Now, everyone hates multiple threads on the same topic, but, the guy who actually posted proof and a real date should not of had his topic closed.
I'll write it here in simple English... I've said this before, btw:
No one wants to read a million rumor threads about the same topic, but, when someone has information with proof, they should never be silenced. Otherwise, you completely destroy the purpose of this message board, and it will lose members quickly.
iead1 said:
and I take issue with your incredibly heavy handed moderating.
My post earlier was obviously a joke, which flew way over your head.
Now, everyone hates multiple threads on the same topic, but, the guy who actually posted proof and a real date should not of had his topic closed.
I'll write it here in simple English... I've said this before, btw:
No one wants to read a million rumor threads about the same topic, but, when someone has information with proof, they should never be silenced. Otherwise, you completely destroy the purpose of this message board, and it will lose members quickly.
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+1. At this rate we will need a moderator for the moderator. LOL
PiLoTs on a rampage
by no means is my moderating heavy handed
the thread 2.1 Eclair Date Confirmed was closed becuase that piece of information was provided previously in the thread Android 2.1 week 38 which you would have realised if you had searched and read the forum before blindly accusing me of heavy handed moderating
also when you take into consideration
2.1 over 1.6 benefits
2.1 upgrade news from seinsider
[video] 2.1 for X10 relased ??
Played with 2.1 on x10 today!!
Waiting For Update><
Xperia x10 Multi-touch and updates after 2.1
all within the first five pages of general, not counting deleted threads
thats a lot of thereads to be looking after especially since they are all roughly the same topic and most of the replies turn into flaming.
no i apologise if you think im being heavy handed but when there's at atleast 3 topics a day of the exact same thing and they each get20 replies of nastiness i can either read 60 posts and delete the bad ones or i can stop a war early by closing the thread
Ahhh moderation is a ***** folks...
Hey gang.
Totally in agreement with you guys.
The moderators need moderators to ensure us of a "real moderation service" for this board.
It is not the first time I see good threads closed by our current jokers.
(I agree irrelevant post should be removed, but who and how is decided what is relevant?).
Plus to be quite honest, this is far from being the most organized blog on the subject.
On the plus note, if you dig far enough, you'll find anything on this site concerning your phone, you just sadly have to go over the entire section to find some infos, wich oftenly is embeded in a maze of post, wich is time consumming and somewhat pointless.(Keep in mind, I work 45 hours a week, I'm an lyricist and write a lot, then comes the gf, the kids and a rather extensive social life. So I have about 25 to 35 minutes a week to go over my gadgets and toys. XD )
It sadly seems the people over here somewhat forgot we are not all hardcore techno wiz with illimited time to play with our toys.
And to be quite honest, the attitude problem of a lot of them is somewhat starting to be a turn off.
I've exchanged words with one of them before and the smugness of that dude was, well, ginormous.
So I leave you on this, I have already made my mind:
1- this site is only good for root/roms/mods.
2- For real service concerning news on our phones, I will go elsewhere.
3- lastly, I believe the current moderator failed their mandate, wich should only be making sure the post are relevant or non-aggressive and mainly get their heads of their asses and realize that this is a service site and all questions are good(keep in mind most people around the globe can't understand **** about the software/hardware of their phones).
Peace to you all,
No hard felling XDA, I just call it how I see it.
Love you guys,
XIII
-PiLoT- said:
by no means is my moderating heavy handed
the thread 2.1 Eclair Date Confirmed was closed becuase that piece of information was provided previously in the thread Android 2.1 week 38 which you would have realised if you had searched and read the forum before blindly accusing me of heavy handed moderating
also when you take into consideration
2.1 over 1.6 benefits
2.1 upgrade news from seinsider
[video] 2.1 for X10 relased ??
Played with 2.1 on x10 today!!
Waiting For Update><
Xperia x10 Multi-touch and updates after 2.1
all within the first five pages of general, not counting deleted threads
thats a lot of thereads to be looking after especially since they are all roughly the same topic and most of the replies turn into flaming.
no i apologise if you think im being heavy handed but when there's at atleast 3 topics a day of the exact same thing and they each get20 replies of nastiness i can either read 60 posts and delete the bad ones or i can stop a war early by closing the thread
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Well apart from all of them dealing with eclair they are all different subjects. Just looking at a topic, seeing the characters 2.1 and then locking or deleting it is either lazy moderation or indicating a total lack of reading comprehension. Well, to be fair, the fifth topic title is a tad ambiguous so I'll give you that.
i see your point
but they all have the issue of 2.1 at their core which means theyre all essentially the same issue
and under the same pressure from people asking me to close threads and new threads opened. i called it the way i see it
also there was mention of "if i want real service ill go to another site site and this site is only good for roms root and development well this site is called xda-DEVELOPERS we do mainly appeal to developers and its only recently its catered more to end users
IF you all think there should be one topic on the release of 2.1 then i will create and sticky a thread for the talk of 2.1 only
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Hi guys i was looking all over and couldnt find anything.could someone suggest me any good websites where can i unlock my phone????
I already tried mobileincanada and cellunlocker.net with no luck
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dexter26 said:
Hi guys i was looking all over and couldnt find anything.could someone suggest me any good websites where can i unlock my phone????
I already tried mobileincanada and cellunlocker.net with no luck
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Go here and contact Lancez
dexter26 said:
Hi guys i was looking all over and couldnt find anything.
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Which translates as - "can't be arsed searching so thought I'd start another thread".
not funny smartass
dexter26 said:
not funny smartass
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i would have done a search before starting a new thread.
dexter26 said:
not funny smartass
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Well it is when there's a 5 starred 56 page thread at the top of Q&A titled [Q] Sony XPERIA x10 Unlocking ?
Lancez said:
i would have done a search before starting a new thread.
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As stated in the thread at the top of this section titled Stop!!!before you post - read this now!!!
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MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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I was looking but didnt find the right answer.anyway thank for help.i think lancers unlicking for 40 dolars is too much.i will try contact my operator
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dexter26 said:
I was looking but didnt find the right answer.anyway thank for help.i think lancers unlicking for 40 dolars is too much.i will try contact my operator
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Well, you should have done that before posting on here asking for help about a topic already discussed numerous times. Good luck!
dexter26 said:
I was looking but didnt find the right answer.
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If you haven't found suggestions in the now 57 page thread, then you clearly haven't looked.
Rikard Skogberg says:
Hi all,
.
First – As a clarification regarding the current Xperia products – We are planning another upgrade to bring new features (such as for example multi-touch for Xperia X10) to the current family of Xperia™ smartphones in Q1 2011. However, at this stage those plans do not include updating the underlying Android version.
.
This decision is based on that we believe that with the current hardware platform an overhaul of the underlying core OS wouldn’t drastically improve the user experience.
We believe that the current Xperia range on Android 2.1 coupled with our proprietary upgrades and unique hardware delivers a user experience that is on par with, and in many cases better than, a vanilla installation of Android 2.2.
.
Our priority right now is to keep enhancing the user experience of the existing products through coming updates and to deliver a fantastic range of smartphones in 2011 that are all on the latest possible version of Android – that is a target we are determined to hit!
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Source: http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...-–-xperia™-arc/comment-page-2/#comment-106069
Is this true? Man, I'd order a X10 this weekend but based on that comment I might not...
Oh yea, its true alright. Also, its all over this section in the forum.
Where is the lock? Please close this thread!
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WITHOUT FURTHER NOTICE.
It is the responsibility of all users to keep the fora organised and clean. We need you to do your bit to keep things orderly.
To the dedicated members that care to keep this forum, subforums included, clean and organized and grouped.
Please start reporting threads to the mods to take action. Please use the REPORT button to do so.
Thank You and happy easy searching.
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Post What Where:
General - general technical discussion items, news, anything else that does not fit into the other fora categories.
Q&A (Questions and Answers) - all questions, irrespective of type, get posted in here whether they be theme related, accessory related, technical, etc.
Accessories - any items to do with components and/or accessories relating to your device.
Rom Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Themes & Apps - anything to do directly with the development of themes and/or applications. Nothing else goes in here.
MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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In an effort to make the G2/DesireZ Forum easier to navigate, please leave all suggestions for improvement here. I will make every effort to reply as promptly as possible.
Thank you for your help in keeping the forums clean
well i would like to begin with 2 suggestions....
1. all posts with visionary as rooting method should be flagged as outdated and a recommendation put up to use rage and gfree as the recommended rooting methods. there is a sticky post on desire Q & A section with a video how to root with visionary which should be removed from sticky section.
2.The Wiki section should be more accessible and more upfront and be visible in all the sub forum sections. just like announcements are visible on every sub forum. as the wiki section has the most up to date information about rooting and currently recommended methods of rooting and returning back to stock.
Perhaps several sub-forums should be created within Android Development dedicated to supporting the more popular ROM releases (Cyanogen, Virtuous etc) as the General forum is filling up with issues and problems relating to non stock software.
This will both improve experience for both stock users, and those requiring help / support on non stock software.
Craig
maybe we could have separate sub sections for things specifically related to the desire z and the g2, such as radios, as its not yet clear whether we can flash desire z radios over g2 and vice versa.
cheers!
hispeedworm said:
well i would like to begin with 2 suggestions....
1. all posts with visionary as rooting method should be flagged as outdated and a recommendation put up to use rage and gfree as the recommended rooting methods. there is a sticky post on desire Q & A section with a video how to root with visionary which should be removed from sticky section.
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this times a bajillion.
I can't believe how many "help I've bricked my phone" threads are popping up due to visionary... needs to be addressed.
craiglay said:
Perhaps several sub-forums should be created within Android Development dedicated to supporting the more popular ROM releases (Cyanogen, Virtuous etc) as the General forum is filling up with issues and problems relating to non stock software.
This will both improve experience for both stock users, and those requiring help / support on non stock software.
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+1
and for the non-stock section, maybe a better way of segregating the threads based on what type of rom or kernal they represent, i.e. froyo/gb or sense/non-sense. the [TAGS] devs use are a step in the right direction, but don't really go far enough to keep the jumbled mess of "VISION_SENSE_WWEAUSTMOB_453.232.2.4 TURBO AWESOME EDITION" at bay.
p.s. <3 u guys/gals
yeah we need that
I am sorry but that would require a complete restructure and is unlikely to happen.
TheRomMistress said:
I am sorry but that would require a complete restructure and is unlikely to happen.
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Could we create the Sub forums without having to restructure? As in leave all current threads in place and stress that newly created threads are created in the correct sub-forums? I appreciate that your time devoted to the website is voluntary and much appreciated but if this could happen, it could make the experience better for everyone.
Thanks!
Craig
That would in essence create more chaos then needed. Look at the things stressed now...do you see less people posting in Dev? No, they still do because ppl do not RTFM!
Could you consider cleaning up the amount of stickies? I know that all of the information in there is important but dedicating 25% of the page to stickies seems a little ridiculous, especially if you've already seen them. I can see the 5 in the developement section easily being trimmed down to 2. The worst case I've seen of sticky overload has been the G1 dev section, it has 8 stickies lmao.
I went ahead and moved 1 stiky to the sticky page, but the others need to stay - they are there for a reason. You may have seen them a dozen times but XDA grows by thousands of members everyday, those are the persons I need to read these stickys.
So, having asked for suggestions, is anything being done?
For me, this forum is dreadful. I've been around XDA for years, it has been a source of hugely useful resources. Now though, on this (G2 and Desire Z) forum, and for example on the General sub-forum, 75% of the posts on the first page refer to issues around rooted phones. I'm not alone in having a totally stock Desire Z.
There really should be some order. Is it that difficult to instigate some clear rules? If we can't have a "Stock Rom" subforum, can we not at least demand that all new posts start with something like [Stock], [Rooted] or similar?
In the past I've donated money towards the upkeep of the site. I'm writing now because my visits have become so infrequent, such is the level of disorder.
Thank you for your feedback. If I am to understand you correctly, you are frustrated because most of the post have to do with a rooted phone and you have stock? Have you ever thought that the reason for this is most of the users here have rooted their device? I am sorry but that is not something I can control. As a moderator on XDA and a multi-device owner, I am well aware of the state of forums across the board and the G2/Dz is not the only forum with rooted and non-rooted users. As of now, there is no plan on creating a special sub-section for non-rooted & rooted phones. Your best bet is to search.
As for requiring tags to sepperate the two, I have enough difficulties getting Devs to tag their work properly, just imagine how much more so it would be to demand every user do it. This would require every user to read stickes and forum rules and abide by them. Lets face it, if every user did that, XDA would be heaven.
Your donation of moneys towards XDA does not really come into play here, as a donation is given by your own free will and does not entitle you to anything extra.
XDA Admins and Moderators are working hard right now to fix some of these issues that have made our members shy away. If you pay attention to the Site Announcements, there is often news about the progress. Expect a lot of change very soon. When things are implemented however, it will be site wide, not forum specific. Keep an eye out if interested.
Well, you asked for suggestions. If you don't think the suggestion I made is worthy of action, fine.
You suggest that my "donation of moneys towards XDA does not really come into play here, as a donation is given by your own free will and does not entitle you to anything extra." The point of mentioning my donating towards the site does "come into play" in pointing out that where once I was a regular visitor, I am now less so. That is a direct result if the chaotic nature of this forum. In no way am I expecting "anything extra" and it is offensive that you suggest I am.
I don't actually want a sub-forum for rooted and non-rooted phones. I'd like posts to be made in the right place. Even today on the "General" subforum, two of the top three threads are:
"Cyangenmod 7.1.0 and higher nightlies are slow"
"Recovery error information thread (E:Cant mount /cache/recovery/command)"
The first sticky of the sub-forum "G2 and Desire Z Android Development" is the thread "Development Q&A - Ask Development Questions Here!". Assuming the aforementioned two threads don't fit into that sticky, why aren't they in the main part of the "Android development" subforum?
I eagerly await the site-wide changes.
Have a "I Agree" button
I see a lot of +1 or posts where the user agrees. It would be nice to have a 'I Agree' button and have is displayed somewhere. It might cut down on some duplicated posts.
rb14 said:
Well, you asked for suggestions. If you don't think the suggestion I made is worthy of action, fine.
You suggest that my "donation of moneys towards XDA does not really come into play here, as a donation is given by your own free will and does not entitle you to anything extra." The point of mentioning my donating towards the site does "come into play" in pointing out that where once I was a regular visitor, I am now less so. That is a direct result if the chaotic nature of this forum. In no way am I expecting "anything extra" and it is offensive that you suggest I am.
I don't actually want a sub-forum for rooted and non-rooted phones. I'd like posts to be made in the right place. Even today on the "General" subforum, two of the top three threads are:
"Cyangenmod 7.1.0 and higher nightlies are slow"
"Recovery error information thread (E:Cant mount /cache/recovery/command)"
The first sticky of the sub-forum "G2 and Desire Z Android Development" is the thread "Development Q&A - Ask Development Questions Here!". Assuming the aforementioned two threads don't fit into that sticky, why aren't they in the main part of the "Android development" subforum?
I eagerly await the site-wide changes.
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We all want things to be posted correctly, unfortunately it almost never happens that way. This is why we have the report post feature; to help mods move things to where they belong, as we can not catch everything. You can not make a user post correctly as much as you can not make them tie their shoes correctly.
The "G2 and Desire Z Android Development" was put in place to avoid having tons of questions in the ROM threads themselves. It does not necessarily mean they cant post in Q&A, after all, that's why it is there.
The problems you mention, again, are site wide, not forum specific. This thread is more for suggestions on stikies, organization and the like. The issues you mention are being addressed site wide as I said before, and can not be handled by just me. If you are up for a good read, check out the latest site announcement. This is our attempt at "making" people post correctly.
bradley_e_smith said:
I see a lot of +1 or posts where the user agrees. It would be nice to have a 'I Agree' button and have is displayed somewhere. It might cut down on some duplicated posts.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1199805 see post #2
If someone takes a look at our little community, on first thought he wouldn't find anything interesting, well except the fact that not much developing is being done, but if they keep an eye on our section for a while they would notice a lot of rule breaking, bad habits, childish comments etc... so, after a while a person starts to ask himself some stuff, like:
Will people ever learn not to post non dev stuff in dev section? especially those who post questions, while there is a dedicated Q&A section for that, u just have to use the [I9001] tag and someone will answer u.There are also the general threads, like benchmarking ,announcements, enquiries (especially about ICS and other progress) etc... and all this stuff should be originally posted in General. now it's normal that every now and then someone opens a non dev related thread in dev section, but when u get 4-5 new threads daily it becomes annoying.
Now moving on to the bad habits, things like lil chit chats, non related posts, posts in different language other than english etc... they're all basic stuff that people who ever used any forums should be aware of.
And lastly, the childish reactions/comments by some people (and i'm not gonna name names here) which really isn't necessary in this forum. comments like "this is a copy of my rom" or "my tool has more options than the other one u are using" or "when i build a rom it will be the best one" adding to that the benchmark competitions, as if we're all in a penis measuring contest in which everyone has to prove he's the biggest man. that kind of attitude doesn't contribute to the general mood of our section. What some people need to understand is that all roms we have are based on stock roms, with little modifications/themes/tweaks that are universal, non of those which were ported by one dev exclusively onto his rom, so accusing someone else of stealing or copying is for least funny and childish.
The fact stays that among the active users in our section there are only 3 real devs, 2 of them are hardly logging in, while the third is the most active at the moment and he's the only one working on porting something, my point is, people should accept the fact that the majority are modders at best, and should keep their heads and feet on the ground.
anyways, i decided to open this thread coz everytime i throw a comment in a non related thread in dev section i get replies that accuse me of rage and disrespectfulness towards the other, which is not the case. so, as a conclusion, i hope there is hope for our community, and i hope someone will come across this post and it will remind him everytime he'd think about doing one of the things mentioned above. Cheers.
A lot of your points are true but I want to mention this too:
I haven't been hanging around long on XDA but ever since early november im checking our development section 10-20 times per day.
Most time I see you posting is about offending others to stop posting offtopic.
This was (in some cases) as well against the rules.
Why don't you just ignore them?
Sometimes it is as annoying to see people posting "this is off topic", "stop spaming"(when there are only few off topic posts) as it is to see actually spam.
I just remind you of the ICS testing thread in dev where you "kindly" asked the mods to not move your thread. Whatever.
Yes, you're right. We only have about 2-3 developers. But due to the lack of development our dev section is more like a general section for our phone.
It is reasonable that people post non dev related things in the dev section, just because the general forum is not often used by I9001 user.
Lets be honest: 99% of the user have no idea of development (me included and you probably too). But we are all interested and like to contribute. It is not spam if someone thanks (for example) Yarde for his CM7 work. Its just annoying to see you insulting people who want to thank developers.
(And yes I know, there is a "thanks" button)
It always depends on the point of view.
Maybe Yarde/skywalker01 look at your post and the only thing they can see is spam (just because it is technically wrong).
Don't forget, it is just a forum where a lot of people come together to share interests.
Everyone has the right to their opinion, u stated urs, and i respect it , but not necessarily agree with it
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Most time I see you posting is about offending others to stop posting offtopic.
ts just annoying to see you insulting people who want to thank developers.
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link me to any of my posts where i "insult" people, and i don't mean when i comment stuff like "this is off topic" or "stop spamming and post in general" , i never insulted anyone in any of my posts i can assure u
I just remind you of the ICS testing thread in dev where you "kindly" asked the mods to not move your thread. Whatever.
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yes i kindly asked the mods not to move it so people could see it, and i got pm's from people who wanted to test what zackconsole was trying to build, and u can find all this in that thread, also if u check my last post in that thread, u will see that i also "kindly" asked the mods to close it bcoz of the spamming and non related posts.
Yes, you're right. We only have about 2-3 developers. But due to the lack of development our dev section is more like a general section for our phone.
It is reasonable that people post non dev related things in the dev section, just because the general forum is not often used by I9001 user.
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it's ok , if u're all satisfied with the way things are now and trust me, i've written this post coz i don't feel like guiding people every single day in which section they should post. if it was to xda rules, none of the questions that are asked in rom (and other dev) threads are allowed, when people have questions of any type they should ask in Q&A , the dev threads are only for dev discussion, but xda and the mods are flexible enough to let people post and ask in the corresponding threads, but it doesn't mean that that flexibility should be abused
And as for posts like "wow, this is great" , "thank u" , "nice job" etc.. they only pump up the post count and make it hard to navigate throughout the thread and find useful posts.Ignoring all these "issues" only leaves space for more such acts.
So what is the solution? Posting in [I9000] General forum even tho the majority of the user won't see it?
Popularity for our phone would help, otherwise I don't see a "Galaxy S I9001 General" section.
Add this to your signature:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
annqx said:
So what is the solution? Posting in [I9000] General forum even tho the majority of the user won't see it?
Popularity for our phone would help, otherwise I don't see a "Galaxy S I9001 General" section.
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if u take a look at our Q&A and General threads u will see a lot of my posts, i come by whenever i'm online even though i'm not obliged to, but i look at it this way, if people asking for help won't get it here it's logical that they will start posting their questions and problems in dev, so even if i don't have a solution for someone's problem i try to give a suggestion or any sort of help, and i would appreciate it if more users would visit our threads and help others, that's the only way to get people to post there. If someone doesn't want to use our threads they can always post in I9000 Q&A or General sections , as long as they use the [I9001] tag, someone of us will notice it for sure, after all that's how u got to my post in I9000 General
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Add this to your signature:
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lol i remember baadnewz when he was still in the desire forum, he made that link famous
Firstly this guide is the brainchild of mf2112 in collaboration with other Recognized Contributors in our forum to hopefully give you (the new member) a good reference point.
We all felt it's useful to re-iterate this in the individual device forums as well as the XDA General forum (original here) as the device forum will be most users entry into XDA when they search for information on their new device.
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This guide is intended to be a starting point for new users to teach you how to start out on XDA and have a good experience and become good XDA netizens. Any input is welcomed.
To all new users, XDA is a great place where you can learn a lot about how to make your phone better, have fun talking to other smart people about your phone and the Android OS, and maybe be recognized for your efforts. But first there are few things you need to know about XDA to be a good netizen. I suggest bookmarking any of the links below which might seem helpful since chances are in the future it will be helpful to you or to someone else and you will have it bookmarked.
Getting Started
First, please start here by moderators (mods) who enforce the rules when necessary.
Here is the short version. Please:
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Here is the longer version. XDA Rules
Searching
When you have a question you don't know the answer to, don't post a new thread when you could post a question in a relevant open thread, and don't post a question when a few minutes reading and searching will not only give you an answer, but a feeling of accomplishment that you were able to find it yourself, and the confidence to remember and repeat the answer with the link to the thread or post with that answer when you see someone else post that question.
Consider the question you are going to post, pick out the keywords and type them into the search box. Try a few different searches with slightly different words.
New Members Guide-Get the most out of XDA!!
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If you aren't sure what a term or acronym means, check this Excellent term definition Glossary by benjamingwynn.
Giving Thanks
Giving thanks is important. It lets people know that their work or answer is appreciated. It is a faster method of feedback than posting a reply like "Thanks for your answer!" You must have one post to give thanks, so here is a good place you can do that without running afoul of the mods for posting no content posts.
The "Say Hi" thread.
You get 8 thanks per day, and they renew after 24 hours or so. Each thanks is independent of the others, so if you give someone a thanks at 3, and then another at 4, those will renew at 3 and 4 the next day. If you run out of thanks, then bookmark that page or open it in a new tab and give thanks later when you have one available.
If you use them all every day you are doing it correctly.
Getting Thanks
You will see that everyone here has a Thanks Meter above their avatar. Here are the thanks counts needed to get to the next bar.
1st bar - 26
2nd bar - 51
3rd bar - 101
4th bar - 201
bug here, never gets to 5 bars, probably 501 if fixed.
6th bar - 1001
7th bar - 2001
8th bar - 5001
9th bar - 8001
Maxed! - 10000
Not that thanks are an indication of a user's status or stature on XDA. Some of the most important people here have a lot fewer thanks than you might guess.
User Titles
As you go around XDA and encounter people, you may notice that they have different titles under their avatar. Speaking of which, click here to upload a picture.
Here are the user titles explained by one of our mods.
0 to 29 posts - Junior Member
30 to 99 posts - Member
100 + posts - Senior Member
juzz86 said:
I'll sum it up for you (or try, anyway!)
There are Junior Members, Members, Senior Members first. These make up the vast majority of XDAs userbase.
Recognised Contributors are nominated by other users and/or Mods/Developers. They are recognised for their contributions which are not specifically Development, such as detailed guides, one-click utilities and other tools/mods.
Recognised Themers are also nominated by users/Mods/Developers, for their work themeing custom ROMs and providing standalone themes for flashing.
Recognised Developers are nominated and approved by the Developer Committee, for their work in Development whether it be ROMs, Root methods, bootloader unlocks etc.
Elite Recognised Developers are again assessed by the Developer Committee, and are deemed to have gone above-and-beyond in providing knowledge/hacks/tools/apps/ROMs for the XDA community.
Forum Moderators are appointed by the Moderator Committee, after submitting an application (see the 'sticky' at the top of this forum - currently applications are not open). They are the first-line of keeping the forums tidy, friendly and orderly.
Senior Moderators are the next step up the ladder, providing site-wide support for Forum Mods and looking after the nitty-gritty issues, as well as areas of XDA not policed by FSMs, such as the Marketplace.
Administrators are next. There are several Admins - each look after a specific part of XDA such as the Portal, the Members and the User Experience of XDA as a whole.
At the top is Mike Channon, who is overall Forum Administrator.
Other titles you may come across:
Moderator Committee - sits on the Mod Committee
Developer Committee - as above, but for Developer Committee
XDA Newswriter - publishes articles for the Portal (front page)
Retired xxxx - have since officially 'left' their XDA position
Hopefully that clears most of them up for you
Contrary to what a lot of people expect, the thanks-meter does not figure at all in determining a users tag.
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Posting
Posting is something you may do a lot of here, but it is always important to remember to make your posts good ones. Don't post just to drive up your count, there is no special reward for the poster with the highest total and you won't catch the long timers here anyways.
You will find that there are some restrictions on your posting ability when you first start here. For starters, for your first 5 posts, there is a captcha prompt and a time limit in between posts. While this may seem burdensome, it does an excellent job of keeping spammers from posting garbage throughout every thread. There is a 2 minute limit between posting and editing your posts. This stops at 30 posts when you go from Junior Member to Member.
Always remember advice from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
Don't Panic!
Please post ALL relevant information. What ROM/Kernel, What you were doing when the problem surfaced, What is the actual problem (not my phone won't boot, help!!), Were the planets aligned,...
Simple information can go along way to diagnose the problem/issue and it also prevents the reciprocal post of "Need more info".
And we have all been there in Panic Mode where you freak out and just want to get some help. Noobs don't look at these devices as phones or tablets, but rather as an investment because well......that is what they are at $500-$800 a throw. I respect my device but that is because I know how to use and recover it but anyone new to all this may not. They see a bootloop and it is strikingly similar to the toilet swirling their money down the drain. That is when Panic Mode sets in.
Don't Panic....Don't be a noob.....Be a New User who is smart and reads a lot and knows where things are and how to find useful and timely information.
Why can't I post in the Dev thread I want to?
It seems like everyone wants to be able to post in the Dev threads since it is the cool place to hang out or more likely, just because the message comes up and says you can't post here. However, those forums are locked down and new users who joined after March 11th 2012 with less than 10 posts will not be able to post there. See 10 post count rule for Dev threads for reference. If you see someone with less than 10 posts in a dev thread, look at their join date and you will see why they were able to post.
This restriction is not meant to be cruel or mean to you, but to prevent inexperienced people from posting in forums which are meant for Development work. Posting "Thanks for a great ROM" might make you feel good, but consider what it adds to the conversation from a Development perspective. If the answer is Nothing, then please don't post it in a Dev thread. If it adds another post to an already long thread with zero value, please don't post it on a Dev thread or anywhere on XDA for that matter.
Also keep in mind that the mods are out there reading your posts, and if they believe you are posting simply to get to 10 posts to post some non-dev comment in a dev thread, you could find all your posts missing and your account temporarily disabled.
Please feel free to thank the dev several times instead of posting "Thanks for a great ROM". Rate the dev's thread with 5 stars using the rate dropdown button at the top of every page of the thread. If you feel that is not sufficient, most devs have a donate button with Paypal. I promise you that they will remember you and appreciate you far more for donating even a couple of dollars versus some post, however gushingly approving, on their dev thread.
Please do not send private messages to the devs saying "Thanks for a great ROM" instead of posting "Thanks for a great ROM". See above.
The best way to start is not by posting, it is by reading. Read, search, read, search. If you read an answer that looks helpful or answers a question you might have, bookmark it, and when you see someone else ask that question you will have the answer for them plus a supporting link.
You might be thinking, is there a place for new users? The answer is no, because the only non-noob areas are the Dev subforums. You can post into your devices General, Q&A, Accessories, and Themes and Apps subforums.
Posting Questions
OK, you got through all that and you have a question that you need that answer to. You have searched, and searched again, and searched again with different keywords, but you can't find the answer. The question is, where do you post it? The first and best place is to check your device's Q&A subforum for a thread posted there, either a general question thread, or a thread already posted there with a similar question. When you post into a thread, that thread is then listed at the top of the subforum it is in and the title turns Bold for everyone else. Someone else may see that thread and know the answer and post it.
Remember, give it some time before reposting. XDA members live around the world and are not going to be on your time zone and schedule. Wait a day and see if you get a response. If you want a notification of someone else posting into that thread, click on the Thread Tools button at the top of the thread and choose Subscribe.
Getting Flamed
At some point, you are going to get "flamed" by someone who feels that your post is stupid, off-topic, irrelevant, noobish, whatever, and they are going to post something like "You are an XXXXX who doesn't know something simple like YYYYY. Don't post here anymore." It is going to happen at some time here, but the important part is not to respond in kind. It will not help the situation, or make your e-peen any bigger, or make you any tougher. It might make you feel better temporarily, but what invariably happens is that the forum mod (or a senior mod) will come in and delete those comments and you might end up on the infraction list, or temporarily disabled, or banned. Just don't reply to it. First, consider the question or post you wrote from a different angle. There is no excuse for flaming someone, but in a multi-cultural environment things may be perceived very differently than what you intended. Second, if the flame is really over the line, click on the little triangle in the upper right hand corner of the post and type in a short explanation and let the mods handle it.
Signature
Making a signature is a very important thing to do since it can help to describe your phone, it's current software, and any modifications you have installed.
A signature should inform others about your phone when you post a question.
A good signature will include information helpful to others beyond the direct target of the question/reply.
A great signature will inform the community with important information and potentially answer questions which have not been asked yet, avoiding repetitive posts.
Please click here to make a signature (5-8 posts minimum) It's cool and you will get more help and respect from us.
Remember this isn't a competition for who has the biggest/longest signature so please remember people come here to read the posts not just your signatures so please be mindful of the size. Just as an example, some users' signatures and a one line post of theirs fills my screen (40" TV) and there's no need for that.
Make it colourful, make it artistic, make it stand out, just don't make it massive
Donations
Making a donation is neither expected or required,but always gratefully received and appreciated.
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This is an open guide, but please, in the spirit of what's been written above, please only post suggestions you feel will improve this guide. I hope this guide helps you and makes your experience on XDA a better one. I appreciate your thanks, but I will appreciate you even more if you take this guide to heart and really do it while you are here. Thank you for reading.
While I admire your efforts and the time to write this up, and as much as we want to stop those unnecessary posts and threads, we will never eradicate those unwanted posts. This has been said the umpteens times, but the situation will not change.
g00ndu said:
While I admire your efforts and the time to write this up, and as much as we want to stop those unnecessary posts and threads, we will never eradicate those unwanted posts. This has been said the umpteens times, but the situation will not change.
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I truly hate to see you feel that way, but this is not just posted here. The master or template copy of this is posted in the Recognized Contributor Private Chat forum and was originally written by mf2112. He has given all RC's the expressed consent to copy and modify this as much or as little as they see fit. So this is being posted all over XDA in device forums and non device forums, it has already been posted in several forums and linked in a lot of the RC's signatures. So us RC's has taken this on as a group effort to do what we do best, contribute. Our hopes are that our combined efforts will make a difference here on XDA. It may work and it may not only time will tell, but one thing is for sure doing nothing or just saying it will not change does nothing to help the problem.
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I just wanted to say how much I appreciate the people who went to the effort of rating this thread with 1 star. Your tireless resolve is sure to make XDA a much better place for years to come. 1's of people will surely applaud your every post which is obviously filled with posty goodness. Really, I cannot imagine how XDA could go on without you. Don't ever stop....
I feel a little better now....
Im new here, and i'll try to help in the many ways I could.
Very interesting post, thank you!
this is helpfull information..then hit thanks from noob like me
T-Macgnolia said:
I truly hate to see you feel that way, but this is not just posted here. The master or template copy of this is posted in the Recognized Contributor Private Chat forum and was originally written by mf2112. He has given all RC's the expressed consent to copy and modify this as much or as little as they see fit. So this is being posted all over XDA in device forums and non device forums, it has already been posted in several forums and linked in a lot of the RC's signatures. So us RC's has taken this on as a group effort to do what we do best, contribute. Our hopes are that our combined efforts will make a difference here on XDA. It may work and it may not only time will tell, but one thing is for sure doing nothing or just saying it will not change does nothing to help the problem.
Reguards
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Don't be mistaken, I am on your side. Just take a look at the various forum threads, Siyah kernel, CM9, etc etc. Those threads were filled with personal opinions, usual banal talks, etc. Some of those posts even ask questions without even bothering to find out the issues, and expected the developers to "help" them solve the problems.
I think the fundamental intention is often taken for granted by some of the users. Remember that this site exists BECAUSE people wants to make their phones better, trying to squeeze out every ounce of performance, trying to share what they have done, and hoping others can benefit from their mods. However, along the way, this intention is lost and people thought that it is within their rights to get the developers solve their problems.
I guess that a disclaimer should always be put up in the beginning of the post. That the users have a right not to use the mods, and the developers reserve the rights not to answer them if the problems are posted in the wrong section. If it is possible, the developers should open 2 threads, one in the development section and another in the general section.
If I may humbly suggest, let the OP has the administrator rights to their own thread only, or he can assign someone whom he trust to oversee the thread is kept clean and tidy. OP can also revoke this right if things doesn't work out. This way, it also relieves the duties of the moderators.
mf2112 said:
I just wanted to say how much I appreciate the people who went to the effort of rating this thread with 1 star. Your tireless resolve is sure to make XDA a much better place for years to come. 1's of people will surely applaud your every post which is obviously filled with posty goodness. Really, I cannot imagine how XDA could go on without you. Don't ever stop....
I feel a little better now....
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Your designation speaks volume and this post demonstrated your contributions within xda-developers. Forget about the rating, and remember that there will always be some black sheep among the whole flock, when the flock numbers to more than 4 million members.
Pols-k said:
Im new here, and i'll try to help in the many ways I could.
Very interesting post, thank you!
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viusyalis said:
this is helpfull information..then hit thanks from noob like me
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Why is this thread not locked?
oinkylicious said:
Why is this thread not locked?
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It's been left open so that useful feedback can be given by members, ie improvements to the guide that will be beneficial to other new members. As with everything this will evolve with the member base.
It's good to see its being used and accepted but for anyone that doesn't agree with it or doesn't see the point should try refrain from posting here as is of no benefit to its purpose.
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I'm not sure if you directed that at me, but I didn't question the validity of the thread. I asked a rational question considering the only posts here before mine have been ones questing the point, justifying the existence and spam.
There was no request for useful feedback in your post, nor a request not to debate the existence of it.
oinkylicious said:
I'm not sure if you directed that at me, but I didn't question the validity of the thread. I asked a rational question considering the only posts here before mine have been ones questing the point, justifying the existence and spam.
There was no request for useful feedback in your post, nor a request not to debate the existence of it.
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No sorry wasn't directed at you in that purpose, I was trying to bounce off your post (the way you intended it) so others would read it and only post useful feedback. The last paragraph says about suggestions to improve the guide.
Sorry for the confusion and thanks.
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If I may humbly suggest, let the OP has the administrator rights to their own thread only, or he can assign someone whom he trust to oversee the thread is kept clean and tidy. OP can also revoke this right if things doesn't work out. This way, it also relieves the duties of the moderators.
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Over on the RC forum, we asked for the exact same thing, and the idea did not get very far, the admin see the opertunity for this to get abused, so are not in favour of the idea. Although we asked for this to be implemnted for RC, RD and RT only.