Noob-ish Question - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions & Answers

Forgive me, I've been out of this community for a while, so I'm a bit out of touch. I have an SM-G930A (AT&T S7) running the EngBoot (PH1 -- thanks princecomsy and ChainFire!) and I installed the v15 fixes. I have a grandfathered unlimited plan. I don't do much with root aside from pretty much enabling the tethering option and killing off some bloatware. My main two complaints with this setup are that the phone randomly gets hot and/or sluggish and my battery life is VERY sporadic from day to day. Some days I can go all day and have 80% left, then some days I can't make it through lunch without it being down to 30%. There's no difference in usage between the two days.
Is there a firmware available that would allow me to tether still (root or not, doesn't matter), that isn't a complete suck on the battery and enables Android Pay? I wouldn't mind being able to continue using Titanium (root), but, I could live without it if I get tether and Android Pay.
I have backups and yadda yadda, so I'm ready to do this, I just see a lot of mixed messages in the different threads and am hesitating moving forward...
Thanks!

harmgsn said:
Forgive me, I've been out of this community for a while, so I'm a bit out of touch. I have an SM-G930A (AT&T S7) running the EngBoot (PH1 -- thanks princecomsy and ChainFire!) and I installed the v15 fixes. I have a grandfathered unlimited plan. I don't do much with root aside from pretty much enabling the tethering option and killing off some bloatware. My main two complaints with this setup are that the phone randomly gets hot and/or sluggish and my battery life is VERY sporadic from day to day. Some days I can go all day and have 80% left, then some days I can't make it through lunch without it being down to 30%. There's no difference in usage between the two days.
Is there a firmware available that would allow me to tether still (root or not, doesn't matter), that isn't a complete suck on the battery and enables Android Pay? I wouldn't mind being able to continue using Titanium (root), but, I could live without it if I get tether and Android Pay.
I have backups and yadda yadda, so I'm ready to do this, I just see a lot of mixed messages in the different threads and am hesitating moving forward...
Thanks!
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From what i understand is that if your rooted, android pay or Samsung pay will not work. The phone is sluggish and gets hot do to the engineering kernel even with the V15 fixes. The only way around it that I've found is to flash the Stang5.0litre rom from the Verizon thread (including his fixes in the OP that are strictly for his rom, don't use the v15 fixes.zip if you flash his rom as it'll mess you up). You'll just have to use WiFi to setup the phone afterwards enter in your APN and use titanium to freeze "setup wizard" to get rid of the "this is not a Verizon sim" message. As far as teathering, you can update to the latest AT&T firmware (APK1) and still root the phone and use xposed for the teather bypass. However, if you update and root then install the Stang5.0litre rom, teather bypass is activated by default on his rom i believe.

Well, let me approach/ask this a different way... if I use the engineering kernel/root is there a way I can modify the phone to enable tether then go back to the standard kernel/image? It's painful to deal with the sluggishness and heating up. It takes way too long just to unlock the phone. The *ONLY* thing I use root for is tethering right now, that's it.
Again, thanks for the responses! I sincerely appreciate it!

harmgsn said:
Well, let me approach/ask this a different way... if I use the engineering kernel/root is there a way I can modify the phone to enable tether then go back to the standard kernel/image? It's painful to deal with the sluggishness and heating up. It takes way too long just to unlock the phone. The *ONLY* thing I use root for is tethering right now, that's it.
Again, thanks for the responses! I sincerely appreciate it!
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I don't know if you can or not. I have a teather plan so I'm not sure what would need to be changed.

harmgsn said:
Well, let me approach/ask this a different way... if I use the engineering kernel/root is there a way I can modify the phone to enable tether then go back to the standard kernel/image? It's painful to deal with the sluggishness and heating up. It takes way too long just to unlock the phone. The *ONLY* thing I use root for is tethering right now, that's it.
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Unfortunately you can only have root on the phone if you are running the engboot kernel, and you can't go back to full stock and keep your data/settings. KNOX, SELinux, and dm-verity lock things down so much on Samsung devices, it's incredibly difficult to get root by more traditional means. Because the engboot kernel is actually from Samsung (leaked), it's allowed to be installed on the device. If you try to patch with anything non-standard, you run the risk of tripping the KNOX flag and crippling the phone.

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Battery woes.... already?

I'm so confused.
Just got the mytouch 4g. Charged it, as it said in the book, until it was fully charged. Used it all day until it was drained and then recharged it this evening. Just looked at it now. In 5 hours since unplugging, it's down to 56%. 56!
So weird. And I barely use any apps. I made a conscious effort to keep it as clean as possible.
Help!
Hmmm alot of data is missing from your end but this is what I suggest as basic. Make your blacklight dim so it does not use alot of energy as this is the highest cause of battery drainage during actual awake time. Then disable any unwanted useless services from boot trust me there are lot and also disable them if they restarts. You can also use SetCPU taking you have OC based kernel then make profile to scale your mCPU based on max/avg/idle.
Best advice for you is don't charge the battery, get it low as 1% then do full charge and check your actual usage cycle the uptime/awake time later. Which rom are you using? OCing? if you don't need it just underclock it no need to OC just for the hell of it.
sounds like u need to turn off your network connection
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sounds like u need to turn off your network connection
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Would you like to elaborate more on that? how do you know he is not using anything that require data connection?
STHNS said:
Would you like to elaborate more on that? how do you know he is not using anything that require data connection?
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when i leave my 4G/3G/Edge idle, it burns my batteries like mad
unless he has the screen on all day, i dont see how 5 hours would burn 50% of his batteries. even without killing all his task
No I was asking you to clarify as you mean to say completely disable data when you are idle? well you can do that if you have nothing that requires access but most folks have email and other elements that does require it. But yes it would improve it but that depends on him and how/what he has setup.
Whats your uptime/awake time with full bat cycle?
JuiceDefender does that, it disables the mobile data connection when the screen is off, but you can let some apps bypass that have it on every 15minutes or so to have it sync.
I've been playing around with it, and it does improve battery life, but it's not for me though, cause it does take a good 3-8 seconds until you get the "H" or your data connection back.
LOL I was curious and searched "Juice" my 8.1gb paid app archive of market that I just cURLed few days ago and came across UltimateJuice LOL so I guess ill run it. I have so many stuff... only if I could install it and test it but its not possible as its close to 11k apps.
Theres so much that can effect the batteries on these phones. Weak signal, apps running in the background, coutless things.
These are "super phones". I keepo a data cable in my pocket, and a car charger in the car at all times. My phone basically lives on the charger. Its easier that way. I know, not the answer you were looking for, but if you want your phone to do everything it was capable of then thats something you may have to deal with. You could turn all sync off and make sure nothing is ever doing anything in the background, but then whats the point in haing such an amazing phone?
C&P response from every other battery life thread:
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The first thing to check is if your phone is being affected by the init or suspend bugs. The good news is the former has an easy fix, and the latter can be temporarily fixed by a reboot.
First, download & install Watchdog Lite from the market. Then open its preferences and check "include phone processes," "monitor phone processes," and "display all phone processes." Then just use your phone as normal. It may take a while before you get an alert from Watchdog (and maybe you never will and it ends up you have a different problem). But if you do, note the process that is the culprit.
If it is the init process, go to settings>applications>development> check "usb debugging."
If it is the suspend process, reboot the phone. It should keep it from happening again for a while.
I know the second answer isn't really an answer, but so far it's all we've got for that problem. There is more information on the 2 problems in these threads:
Init:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839935
Suspend:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872839
Good luck...I had both of the problems and my phone didn't last to dinner time. Now I get better battery life than the iphone 3GS I had before this...over a full day of moderate use.
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Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
I'm not rooted at all. Although I gladly rooted my previous phone (3g slide) I don't want to root this phone because I don't know of any ROMs that are EXACTLY like this Sense stock ROM on here, just without the crapware (games, VVM, so on). Is there one?
Ya you can go take a look in Ice Glacier v1.1.6 see which you like the regular or themed version.
QL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594
Battery life is all relative. Every single person will experience different battery life. The apps you have installed, the amount of time you spend on it and the time you spend on/in each app, distance from cell towers, distance from Wi-Fi sources, settings you have for every app and things like sync and what not.
I have the same problem at work (building)...poor reception = constantly reconnecting = major battery drain..
STHNS said:
Ya you can go take a look in Ice Glacier v1.1.6 see which you like the regular or themed version.
QL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594
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Thanks, I didn't think one existed. I just wish these cooks would put up some screenshots sometimes.
Quick unrelated question... is there any way I can JUST root for access to the phone and then delete the things I don't want with Titanium by myself. I really DO like the phone the way it is and I just wanna lose some of the network connected crap like the T-Mo faves, etc.
Thanks
tinpanalley said:
Thanks, I didn't think one existed. I just wish these cooks would put up some screenshots sometimes.
Quick unrelated question... is there any way I can JUST root for access to the phone and then delete the things I don't want with Titanium by myself. I really DO like the phone the way it is and I just wanna lose some of the network connected crap like the T-Mo faves, etc.
Thanks
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Yes. You can just root and use the stock rom if you like. Use Titanium to freeze unwanted apps rather than uninstalling them. That way, if something starts behaving strangely, you can unfreeze apps to troubleshoot. Uninstalling system apps is permanent and Titanium doesn't backup system apks, only data. I haven't used it, but I believe Iced glacier is what you're looking for. The unthemed version is basically stock mt4g without bloat with some performance tweaks.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
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Yes. You can just root and use the stock rom if you like. Use Titanium to freeze unwanted apps rather than uninstalling them. That way, if something starts behaving strangely, you can unfreeze apps to troubleshoot. Uninstalling system apps is permanent and Titanium doesn't backup system apks, only data. I haven't used it, but I believe Iced glacier is what you're looking for. The unthemed version is basically stock mt4g without bloat with some performance tweaks.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
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Thanks! You know, the thing is that with rooting, from my WinMo days when it was a really risky process, I developed this fear of rom flashing just because of the risk of screwing up. I know Android is much easier to flash with a ROM but it still freaks me out a bit and if it's not COMPLETELY necessary, as it was on the 3g slide I just had, I try not to do it. But I'll check out the unthemed Ice Glacier. I just wish I could see some screen shots or get an explained list of what mods are done to the stock rom on it.
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Thanks! You know, the thing is that with rooting, from my WinMo days when it was a really risky process, I developed this fear of rom flashing just because of the risk of screwing up. I know Android is much easier to flash with a ROM but it still freaks me out a bit and if it's not COMPLETELY necessary, as it was on the 3g slide I just had, I try not to do it. But I'll check out the unthemed Ice Glacier. I just wish I could see some screen shots or get an explained list of what mods are done to the stock rom on it.
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The other thing you can do , if you like the stock ROM but just want to get rid of the bloatware, is to temp root using Visionary+, then use terminal, and disable the apps you don't want. I forgot where i saw it, but that's what I did and it works great. Also, if you ever want it back, it's not erased, just go back and enable it by typing "enable" instead of "disable" in the instructions below.
In Terminal Emulator (with root):
$"su" <enter>
#"pm list packages" <enter>
#"pm disable exact.NameOFApp.IncludingCase.SensitivityAnd.Periods" <enter>
#
You're done; it should be removed from your app drawer and everything. It will still show up in the package list, so if you want to enable it again, just pick it out of the list and follow the same directions replacing "disable" with "enable."
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The other thing you can do , if you like the stock ROM but just want to get rid of the bloatware, is to temp root using Visionary+, then use terminal, and disable the apps you don't want.
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I don't get the concept of "temp rooting" vs real or full rooting. Does that mean it unroots if you reboot? What's the temp part?
That's it. Temp root goes away on reboot.
HTC Glacier running CM7 #18

Did you lose root with B&N update?

Just wondering if anyone who was running rooted stock with any of the reported methods to block updates (e.g. build.prop edit, OTAcerts renaming, DB tinkering) got the update and lost root anyway.
I run CM7, but know a few people who are still on rooted stock. It would be nice to know if, once the new stock OS is rooted, we can employ similar measures to prevent further minor updates and loss of root.
Please note that I am asking about anyone who got the update without wanting it despite measures to block it...I understand that anyone who voluntarily updates will lose root.
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Just wondering if anyone who was running rooted stock with any of the reported methods to block updates (e.g. build.prop edit, OTAcerts renaming, DB tinkering) got the update and lost root anyway.
I run CM7, but know a few people who are still on rooted stock. It would be nice to know if, once the new stock OS is rooted, we can employ similar measures to prevent further minor updates and loss of root.
Please note that I am asking about anyone who got the update without wanting it despite measures to block it...I understand that anyone who voluntarily updates will lose root.
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Yes, I lost root. No,OTAcerts renaming and DB tinkering weren't of any use at all. I don't know about build.prop, but IIUC, that only works after the update has been out a little while, and can't prevent *new* updates like the one that unrooted my nook yesterday.
Unless a reliable method of blocking updates can be found, I may have to go to a custom mod. CM7 is great, but the sleep issue worries me. Maybe, now that an official version of Froyo is out, Nookie-Froyo devs can canabalize drivers, kernels etc and give us a fully functional flash tablet without the sleep of death or the fear of auto-updates?
My Nook was plugged in all morning and nothing was pushed even though i did not take any update prevention measures (other than TI backup all my apps as soon as I saw the update).
I did the DB tweak and as of 5 minutes ago no update pushed on my rooted stock. I just tweaked my router to try and make sure it stays blocked in case the DB tweak really isn't enough. But my router tweaks assume the update server for the classic nook is the same one used for the color.
Does anyone know what server they push the updates from so I can block it for sure?
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I did the DB tweak and as of 5 minutes ago no update pushed on my rooted stock. I just tweaked my router to try and make sure it stays blocked in case the DB tweak really isn't enough. But my router tweaks assume the update server for the classic nook is the same one used for the color.
Does anyone know what server they push the updates from so I can block it for sure?
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No, nobody knows..... Same question with 1.0.1 and 1.1.0. Blocking from build.prop is the only reliable method.
Follow-up question to those of you who lost root. Did you also lose access to the applications you had installed as root? I understand that these will no longer be tied to the market for updating, just wondering if they are still installed and accessible.
Thanks.
Hopefully people backed up before this update was shipped. I suspect it will be rooted pretty quickly so even if you lose root it will only be for a few days.
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Unless a reliable method of blocking updates can be found, I may have to go to a custom mod. CM7 is great, but the sleep issue worries me.
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You can't have a sleep issue if you don't go to sleep. There is no Sleep of Death in CM7.
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You can't have a sleep issue if you don't go to sleep. There is no Sleep of Death in CM7.
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That itself is the issue. It doesn't sleep, hence in constantly drains the battery.
I used this method. Don't know how effective it is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937584
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I used this method. Don't know how effective it is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937584
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That is a script that edits devicemanager.db. I edited devicemanager.db manually, and still got the update. Editing devicemanager.db is useless.
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That is a script that edits devicemanager.db. I edited devicemanager.db manually, and still got the update. Editing devicemanager.db is useless.
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Can anyone else confirm they've done the sqlite database tweak and still received the OTA update? xxiworld is the only one I've seen on these forums that has said it's happened to his NC.
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That itself is the issue. It doesn't sleep, hence in constantly drains the battery.
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By a relatively trivial amount. Unless you are unwilling or unable to connect a charger while YOU sleep, the NC really doesn't need to.
It WILL be nice when we get the new kernal that fixes the underlying problem, but avoiding CM7 in the interim simply because you "worry" about it staying awake to work around the issue is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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By a relatively trivial amount. Unless you are unwilling or unable to connect a charger while YOU sleep, the NC really doesn't need to.
It WILL be nice when we get the new kernal that fixes the underlying problem, but avoiding CM7 in the interim simply because you "worry" about it staying awake to work around the issue is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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your definition of trivial is different than mine.
When my wife's ipad and stock nook color can go 4-7 days between charges or more with regular use versus 36 hours max on CM7 because of darin on standby that is 10 fold, that is not trivial.
maybe for your purposes it is acceptable, but it is NOT trivial
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your definition of trivial is different than mine.
When my wife's ipad and stock nook color can go 4-7 days between charges or more with regular use versus 36 hours max on CM7 because of darin on standby that is 10 fold, that is not trivial.
maybe for your purposes it is acceptable, but it is NOT trivial
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Ditto
I don't use it much. I appreciate not having to charge it all of the time. It tends to stay in my bag a lot. I've been waiting for rooted 1.2 before I leave my rooted 1.0.0...
Deep sleep is more important to me than the tweaks that come with CM7. I'm a pretty basic user.

VM Intercept root, then what?

this is for my girl friends phone and its stock right now and painfully slow so I convinced her to root but I'm used to seeing the ROM's for my phone so I'm not familiar with "what ROM will speed up her phone's response"? She only uses it for alot of texting, FB, and occasional calls. thanks!
Factory reset
I have an Intercept. And yes, it gets painfully slow. The problem is, for some reason, the ROM on the phone fills right up. Here is what I do. I bought a back up app.. MY BACKUP PRO.. $2.99 I think. I back up everything... and then do a factory reset. The phone runs fast... like new.... and then use the app to restore everything. Its a bit of a pain in the ass... but it works. I am sure its less of a pain in the ass than rooting.
I have a little checklist that I did if you are interested. Send me a PM if you want. But every time i reset the phone, it runs like brand new.
I recently picked up two VM Intercepts because, well, they were on sale and for $40 for the phones, it was hard to pass up. Not knowing anything much of the phone before I purchased, I was still surprised on how slow the phone responded at times.
Finally got tired of it and the first thing I did was check to see if the phone was compatible with any of the ROMs I had used previously. It wasn't. So I decided I had to at least try something.
The phone, first off, was a pain to root. I kept getting partial roots. Finally after Googling for a few hours I came across the InterceptRoot.APK and it worked like a charm. Has a built-in backup utility, too. After it finished rooting the phone I installed Titanium Backup and uninstalled the majority of the pre-installed Virgin Mobile Bloatware apps. The only two I have left are "Activate" and "My Account" -- obviously didn't remove any of the actual Android required apps, just the Virgin Mobile specifics. And yes, they were safe to remove, had no issues afterwards.
But man, after removing all the bloatware, the phone runs a good 35% faster. I'd say go for it.
I lost the link I downloaded the rooter at, but if you need it I can upload it and PM it to you.
You guys should check out the sdxdevelopers website. There's a lot more information about the VM Intercept there.
I would say to try using cuteromx, My daughters phone/my old phone, has it installed and using cm01 recovery along with the vampirefos kernel, it is working pretty smooth if i must say so myself.

OTA Lollipop from NK1 - To take or not to take?

For those of us that were dumb enough to take the NK1 OTA without researching, damning us to an eternity without root, could we potentially worsen the possibility that a root exploit be found by taking the Lollipop OTA as well?
I'd say that if you took the 4.4.4. Update go ahead and upgrade to Lollipop because the chances of someone finding a exploit for 4.4.4 now is slim to none, because if a developer does still have this phone they're gonna be working on Lollipop.
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I'd say that if you took the 4.4.4. Update go ahead and upgrade to Lollipop because the chances of someone finding a exploit for 4.4.4 now is slim to none, because if a developer does still have this phone they're gonna be working on Lollipop.
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OneClickRoot
Okay, doing some research... I am not going to try and update my Note 3 to Lollipop and damn myself to a pit of rootless use... Would someone please test the theory that OneClickRoot will work for rooting the Verizon Galaxy Note 3 as they claim to be able to do Here.
Just curious... what about being unrooted makes a phone useless? I am just wondering.. i always root mine but thinking bout it, i don't really use anything that HAS to have root?
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Just curious... what about being unrooted makes a phone useless? I am just wondering.. i always root mine but thinking bout it, i don't really use anything that HAS to have root?
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It all depends on what you're trying to do with your phone. It's never going to make it "useless" as a phone. If you have a specific functionality that you're trying to accomplish that requires root and plan to use it all the time, then perhaps the phone could become somewhat useless to you.
To most people it tends to mean that they aren't going to be able to use their native tethering app without having to use some third party software like FoxFi. Rooting your phone means nothing more than giving it's user the ability to grant root (administrative god) privileges to the device. Click happy people will grant root access to anything that asks for it, therefore making it a security disaster to be left available by default. The advanced user can not only be more cautious as to granting root permission, but also maintain what is and is not allowed root at any given time. If done well a user can even maintain a more secure device with root by having access to everything.
Personally I have several different applications and functionalities that require root that I wasn't trying to use when I mistakenly took the 4.4.4 OTA update. They are permanently lost to me as long as I own this device now until a new exploit is found. However, the phone is still not at all useless. It works great as a phone, text messaging device, internet browser, camera, etc... I just miss the availability of control that I no longer have after losing the option to root.
Fwiw, I actually recommend not rooting your device unless you have specific reasoning for it and intend to be extremely cautious granting root access.
Also, if anyone wonders, I did go ahead and take the Lollipop OTA. It performs amazingly and is very aesthetically pleasing!
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It all depends on what you're trying to do with your phone. It's never going to make it "useless" as a phone. If you have a specific functionality that you're trying to accomplish that requires root and plan to use it all the time, then perhaps the phone could become somewhat useless to you.
To most people it tends to mean that they aren't going to be able to use their native tethering app without having to use some third party software like FoxFi. Rooting your phone means nothing more than giving it's user the ability to grant root (administrative god) privileges to the device. Click happy people will grant root access to anything that asks for it, therefore making it a security disaster to be left available by default. The advanced user can not only be more cautious as to granting root permission, but also maintain what is and is not allowed root at any given time. If done well a user can even maintain a more secure device with root by having access to everything.
Personally I have several different applications and functionalities that require root that I wasn't trying to use when I mistakenly took the 4.4.4 OTA update. They are permanently lost to me as long as I own this device now until a new exploit is found. However, the phone is still not at all useless. It works great as a phone, text messaging device, internet browser, camera, etc... I just miss the availability of control that I no longer have after losing the option to root.
Fwiw, I actually recommend not rooting your device unless you have specific reasoning for it and intend to be extremely cautious granting root access.
Also, if anyone wonders, I did go ahead and take the Lollipop OTA. It performs amazingly and is very aesthetically pleasing!
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Very well stated. I agree with you about the uses of rooting as well as how the OTA 5.0 is performing. If you're already unrootable on 4.4.4, then you might as well upgrade to 5.0.
Icetech3 said:
Just curious... what about being unrooted makes a phone useless? I am just wondering.. i always root mine but thinking bout it, i don't really use anything that HAS to have root?
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It unlocks an array of possiblities that would not normally be alloud llike clean up bloatware, runing certain apps that you dont have permission to, tweaking your phone for performance, fixing bugs that were missed in recent update, xposed function for example, installing different roms, customizing the look and feel of your phone, hacking, development, security testing, just to name a few which start with root and if you have a unlocked bootloader endless possiblities especially on divice like this.
JeSsEiCp said:
It all depends on what you're trying to do with your phone. It's never going to make it "useless" as a phone. If you have a specific functionality that you're trying to accomplish that requires root and plan to use it all the time, then perhaps the phone could become somewhat useless to you.
To most people it tends to mean that they aren't going to be able to use their native tethering app without having to use some third party software like FoxFi. Rooting your phone means nothing more than giving it's user the ability to grant root (administrative god) privileges to the device. Click happy people will grant root access to anything that asks for it, therefore making it a security disaster to be left available by default. The advanced user can not only be more cautious as to granting root permission, but also maintain what is and is not allowed root at any given time. If done well a user can even maintain a more secure device with root by having access to everything.
Personally I have several different applications and functionalities that require root that I wasn't trying to use when I mistakenly took the 4.4.4 OTA update. They are permanently lost to me as long as I own this device now until a new exploit is found. However, the phone is still not at all useless. It works great as a phone, text messaging device, internet browser, camera, etc... I just miss the availability of control that I no longer have after losing the option to root.
Fwiw, I actually recommend not rooting your device unless you have specific reasoning for it and intend to be extremely cautious granting root access.
Also, if anyone wonders, I did go ahead and take the Lollipop OTA. It performs amazingly and is very aesthetically pleasing!
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Is there any change in the strength of the signal. When i first got the device i had service everywhere along the way like many other people on here i be having issues with connection any improvement in the latest update or is it just more bloatware and beefed up security.
Sammguy said:
Is there any change in the strength of the signal. When i first got the device i had service everywhere along the way like many other people on here i be having issues with connection any improvement in the latest update or is it just more bloatware and beefed up security.
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I've been keeping an eye on my signal strength over the past few days. While I still have stable connectivity mostly everywhere I go, I have noticed a minor loss in signal strength. At home, my signal strength has dropped 1.5 bars on average as well as having a more difficult holding 4G (will switch to stronger 3G) in locations where 4G strength struggles.
I also noticed it switch to 3G once at my home and then switch back to 4G on it's own after 5-10 minutes and I live 1/4 mile from a cell site where I usually maintained "all bars" before Lollipop.
I haven't suffered any usage issues or bandwidth losses from this yet, but I figured I would answer your question and chime in that I have notice a minor overall signal strength loss.
Thanks dor your reply.

Hot and slow without apparent reason

I have my AT&T V20 since launch. When is working fine, I love it. BUT, at times it gets hot and slow with no apparent reason. If it was slower, it would be considered frozen (as in not respoding at all). When it does that I hate the phone and I want to make it a 1000 pieces.
I tried new battery, factory reset, removing apps and the thermal paste mod which gave a temporary improvement. I also stopped using the sd card in suspicion that had something to do with it.
Now, I am just patient until the Pixel 4 comes out which looks to be one of my top up coming alternatives. Definitely my next phone will not be LG. My previous phone was the Nexus 5 and I am moving on from LG. I am hoping to get a phone that is not carrier branded and has vowifi and volte on AT&T.
In the meantime, any tips for things I can do or apps that can help will be appreciated.
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Hi I came on here today to start my own thread about my issue but your problem seems to be similar so I'll join in here If you don't mind.
I have a vs995 but I'm using H910 (at&t) firmware so I could have FM radio. Everything was going great really great untill I finally started using it was my daily driver.
So yes my device is certainty getting hot and suddenly cold like your device. I listen to a lot of online radio or music and I noticed my device is so hot I could feel the heat from it in my pocket which is just a no go. I get rapid battery drain as well not surprisingly when you feel heat.
My device is a new refurb. I did the cpu throttling test and I got very good results, hardly any red, so I decided not to do the thermal mod and won't do it untill I fix this problem. I did change the thermal-config file which I need to revert to stock to see if that is causing it but I don't thing it is.
I have frozen a lot of AT&T apps using Titanium backup. I had installed Greenify, Naptime and Servicely but I've now disabled those for the moment while I have this problem.
I used an app called SystemPanal2 which shows and monitors running processes with battery drain. It a bit of a complex app and didn't really learn anything from it. One thing though is that the app had a high battery drain for "Unknown Processes" so I don't know what that could be, it might be the cause of the problem. I get high ratings for the expected things like Display, Android System, SystemUI and something called "Call Services".
One thing I did is put my sim into another fone and set up a hopspot for my V20. Using the V20 for streaming apps on wifi the phone did not get anywhere near as hot for the short time I did this.
I suspect a few things. It could be something to do with the AT&T bloat apps specifically related to Call Management. It could be that flashing H910 on my VS995 comes with negative side effects that I can't fix. It could be a problem with the custom kernel I flashed which was working almost as fluid and Lineage 16 when I tested that.
I don't think it's the battery. I have a perfine 4100 on the way but I think it's software. If I can't resolve this soon I'm going to have to reflash original VS995 firmware and start again from scratch which I really don't want to do, but it's not in a state I can use as a daily driver as it is.
One last thing, in troubleshooting this issue I went into Hidden Menu *#lgmenu#*910#. Field_Test>Modem_Settings>....most of the options you'd expect to find there are missing including select bands etc. Can someone tell me if this is normal for the H910? I'm concerned I may have debloated some at&t stuff that caused this.
@Eezony feel free to join. Mine is not rooted, stock H910 with the latest update. Since I am not rooted, I have even less access to the running processes.
Now you mentioned it, the phone tends to behave more normal when I am traveling overseas using another device as a hotspot to the V20 and the V20 on airplane mode (and using WiFi Calling and other apps).
In the modem settings I have Engineering Mode and PDP setting.
Thanks @haris163. As I said I'm highly suspect the issue has something to do with AT&T specific settings/bloatware/services etc. In which case it would affect my rooted and your non-rooted device in the same way.
Now since I posted I disabled some further background at&t process (physically deleted the apk's in system/priv-app ) that I had disabled but were showing up as a running idle process strangely. I'm running my fone beside me at home with earbuds plugged with streaming music app on and so far the device is not hot in the same way it was in my pocket. Hopefully I've found something but too early to tell. One of the process was called something like at&t_remote_service.
Well, I have since reverted back to US996 by flashing KDZ.
As I was saying the reason I flashed H910 at&t on my device was for the FM radio capability. Unfortunately the at&t version introduced some hoops to go through to get wifi and signal working properly which I didn't fully remedy. All these issue were resolved by reverting to US996 which is carrier bloatware and modifications free.
But that one has no fm radio so I ported the fm radio app to the US996.
The result is now I'm fully satisfied with my software setup without troubling issues.
You don't have to be rooted to flash US996, just use lgup patched version.

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