Charging with the phone switched off. - YotaPhone

Firstly, sorry for my english. I have received my Y206 yesterday and today was my first day with it. Kit kat, I'm going to use it a few days at least before trying to update it. I have had a really poor battery life but I suppose that I will have to block all the google things (the "ok google" must be a master draining...) and maybe some other things, and it is just the first time I charged...and here comes my doubt:
If I connect the cable (or put it on the QI charger) being switched off, it switches on. I mean, I can live with this, but it is the first time I see this, I have always charged my phones switched off along the night with no problems, so I wondered if this is maybe a problem of my phone or just normal in this model.

Yes that's normal, Every Yotaphone does that. I always charge in extreme power save mode. You can turn the active screen onto the EPD too or put into airplane mode, to charge quicker. Yes the battery life of the Chinese yotaphones is poor, also the glass will break easily, make sure you use screen protectors and a bumper.
For me the chinese yotaphones have fake parts, but still ok.

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Let Andriod die now have a paper wheight

ok here is the problem.
4 nights ago i forgot to plug in my hd2 while android was running and the battery died.
the next morning i went to turn it on and the screen no longer turns on but the phone does boot. the battery doesnt charge, status light doesnt either, end key doesnt work, when i answer calls no noise can be heard or made.
any hope?
Im guessing you cant run bootloader?
Maybe this is a warrenty jobby
If you know someone with another HD2, Try swapping the battery.
chrisizzle492 said:
ok here is the problem.
4 nights ago i forgot to plug in my hd2 while android was running and the battery died.
the next morning i went to turn it on and the screen no longer turns on but the phone does boot. the battery doesnt charge, status light doesnt either, end key doesnt work, when i answer calls no noise can be heard or made.
any hope?
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does it enter in bootloader mode?
retry flashing wm rom+radio
chrisizzle492 said:
i went to turn it on and the screen no longer turns on but the phone does boot. the battery doesnt charge, status light doesnt either, end key doesnt work, when i answer calls no noise can be heard or made.
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Hi Chris,
Please eleborate/clarify your OP, because I don't think anyone gets this... At least i don't! You say the screen doesn't turn on but the phone boots?! How do you figure that? Your device is actually on because you can receive/answer calls!?! :S
Sounds like your device has just BSOD (Black Screen of Death) which is discussed quite a lot here. Just press reset button or pull the battery (please tell me you have tried that before...).
If your device IS NOT powered on, please try this:
Does the device vibrate shortly when pressing the End-button? If so you should leave it connected to the charger for longer. If battery has drained too much it takes a while for the device to allow it to power itself up (prevention of overdrainage, which Lithium-batteries don't like very much).
Do you charge through USB, or with the supplied charger? I've had this before trying to charge it with a (different brand) microUSB charger. Turned out most chargers only give out 500mAh, whilst my normal charger (and car-charger) give out 1000mAh i believe. That might help.
You can order a cheap replacement battery from China (i got mine with dockingstation), which is already charged about 60% (for storage purposes).
BTW if your problem is fixed, please add the prefix [FIXED] or [SOLVED] to your topics title.
shufflez said:
Hi Chris,
Please eleborate/clarify your OP, because I don't think anyone gets this... At least i don't! You say the screen doesn't turn on but the phone boots?! How do you figure that? Your device is actually on because you can receive/answer calls!?! :S
Sounds like your device has just BSOD (Black Screen of Death) which is discussed quite a lot here. Just press reset button or pull the battery (please tell me you have tried that before...).
If your device IS NOT powered on, please try this:
Does the device vibrate shortly when pressing the End-button? If so you should leave it connected to the charger for longer. If battery has drained too much it takes a while for the device to allow it to power itself up (prevention of overdrainage, which Lithium-batteries don't like very much).
Do you charge through USB, or with the supplied charger? I've had this before trying to charge it with a (different brand) microUSB charger. Turned out most chargers only give out 500mAh, whilst my normal charger (and car-charger) give out 1000mAh i believe. That might help.
You can order a cheap replacement battery from China (i got mine with dockingstation), which is already charged about 60% (for storage purposes).
BTW if your problem is fixed, please add the prefix [FIXED] or [SOLVED] to your topics title.
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i have restarted many times.
i use the wall charger.
but why would the phone boot but not turn on the screen or have the mic work?
remove your sd card and the battery. you may have to hit the rest button on the back after you plug the battery back in as well, but as long as you have the sd card out it should come back on. try plugging the phone into a charger and then remove the battery as well sometimes it'll wake it up so to speak. it's just a matter of playing with it. mine did the exact same thing and i freaked out for a little bit.
now if after all this it doesn't work and you've played with it for a while then yeah, best of luck to you =\. but whatever you do in playing with the battery and the charger, keep the sd card out until you can boot into winmo.
EDIT: never mind, i thought the phone wasn't booting. i misunderstood, but i went back and reread the original post. try reflashing your rom if you're in winmo and experiencing those issues. or take the sd card out and reboot.
i would suggest making an backup, as your phone turns on you should be able to estaplish a remote-connection with some (3rd-party-)software and do a hardreset.
if this wont work i would recommend setting it back to factory default (revert hspl if you have one and install stock rom) and send it in for warranty.
seems to be some major problem...
All this steps should be possible without screen turning on (working touchscreen may be needed for backup, but flashing doent need screen input)
if drive-mode is default for your usb connection and holding you from flashing you can do a hardreset and afterwards active sync will be default again and you can establish an active sync connection and flash
check if any of the pins that contact the battery are bended or broken, try to avoid removing the battery when you have to reset your hd2 because the pins are fragile
similar thing happened to me just last night!
I tried the jmz dual boot last night and I was nearly out of battery. I didnt look at any instructions I just installed it and restarted the phone to check out the new toy. it finally got done loading I chose android right away and I was walking towards the bedroom. when I went to see if android had fully booted and plug in the phone I had nothing! It was off. I decided that the battery must have died so I tried to turn it on and all that happened was the tmobile flash screen came up for a second and then it went right off, I got so desperate that I was going to do a hard reset but that wouldnt even work! the boot loader screen would just shut right off. I was suggested to try another battery we had at the house and bang it fired right up I took a wiff of my other battery and I dont know what happened but I think I let the magic smoke out cuz it is fried!
chrisizzle492 said:
ok here is the problem.
4 nights ago i forgot to plug in my hd2 while android was running and the battery died.
the next morning i went to turn it on and the screen no longer turns on but the phone does boot. the battery doesnt charge, status light doesnt either, end key doesnt work, when i answer calls no noise can be heard or made.
any hope?
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hello friend...i have a problem similar to this. basically when my phone is in android which i use alot if it dies in android, when i reboot it it will turn on for about a second to see my splash screen then turn itself off (the battery is obviously flat). so i plug my charger in and it stays on now but doesnt indicate charging....i boot it into windows mobile and the batt just stays at 0% but its still working. however once i unplug it it will die.....its like the battery is not in the phone. luckily i have two batteries and a dock which charges batteries, so i replaced the battery and everything works fine. once the battery that died in android was fully charged i tried it again and it was fine.................im guesing the moral to this story is dont let your phone die in android mode
I do notice my HD2 runs hotter while in android than while it runs in Windows.
I am not sure if that's an issue to this, which is why I never mentioned about it being hotter. Although my HD2 is noticeable hotter, it never gets to a point that I think I should unplug the USB due to overheating concern...
Just a few inputs from passed experience
I use TMOUS Stock 2.13.531.1 WWE ROM
2.12.50.2_2 radio (not stock)
k going to tmobile today to see if they have any extra batteries i can try.
then ill update
i went to tmobile. and while i was there i noticed the screen was turning on but very dim without backlight (barely noticable). but the rep helping me did not notice and i let it stay that way because tmobile is sending me a new refurbished phone as long as i send the old one (and the rep was totally cool he uses xda also and said they wont check my software and if they do they wont ask for the phone back). he also let me get insurance in case this happens again, instead i will just say its lost. so i basically killed 2 birds with one stone

G2 won't turn on, need help

Hey guys.
Had a weird thing happen with my G2. It seemed to have rebooted on its own, then it was OK for a few hours. However now I'm looking at a G2 that won't even turn on.
I did the whole nine yards, switched batteries, manually charged the battery, used a different charged battery, made sure the USB cable is plugged in with my charger.
The part that bothers me though is that even if I plug the charger cable in, no light comes on indicating it's charging. I did use those Chicotech batteries and I did notice that whenever I pulled the battery out, the battery contacts on the phone side looked a little bent. However, I haven't touched the battery in several days, and the phone was working just fine.
If it's an issue with the contacts (which I suspect it is), I'll probably have to do a warranty replacement. I purchased that "extended" warranty plan, so I should be good, only problem is I don't know if I want to turn my phone in. Will they care that I rooted the thing? I'll probably switch out the miniSDHC card that's in there, but since I can't unroot the phone (because the damn thing won't turn on) I just want to make sure nobody will be asking me questions.
exchange it , they wont know

Nexus 6p Turning off and won't turn on until plugged in

I recently had my nexus 6p battery replaced. I was told it was replaced with the Huawei brand battery. The capacity seems to be normal again. However, I have noticed that my phone is randomly shutting off about once a week. It will go from using it to just completely blank screen and off. The battery will be at any charge percentage, but when I try to turn on the screen or turn on the phone, it just stays blank. It only works if I plug the phone in, wait for the charging indicator, then I can unplug it and turn on the phone..
I have noticed this has happened when I opened my camera app and when I opened snapchat. I think this is a coincidence, but I am unsure.
I noticed when I plugged the phone in when it had turned off, I noticed a very feint red flash of light below the ear piece. This is supposed to be where the light sensor and proximity sensor are at.
I had it happen again to me when I was opening Android Messages when I was with one of the repair guys that replaced the battery. I used a USB A to C cable to plug it into a computer and then into my phone to show him that plugging it in jump starts it and the battery is not dead. However, this resulted in a bootup, then blank screen. Leaving it plugged in has it bootup and then blank screen and back to off animated charging. Thinking phone was dead dead, I went home and tried to call warranty. In the process, I plugged it into my computer, USB C to USB C and the phone turned on and booted up. My computer has a thunderbolt 3 port. My guess is the power supplied by the USB 2.0 type A port was too low to give it the jumpstart. But when I plug it into the chargers I have at home, which are more powerful, it is enough to jump start it and get it working again. Maybe it is a coincidence about the different charger outputs.
Any thoughts?
I think it might be a battery issue and people were telling me it was part of what's going on in that lawsuit.
Only cheap battery's available for the 6p unless you get a ceno. I purchased a battery from eBay supposed "OEM." The first one did exactly what you first mentioned. Early shut downs and failure to turn on. I didn't even get those with the original battery just that it was getting bit tired. I messaged the seller and he gladly sent me another no questions asked. I've had that battery for 3 months now no battery sensor but works great. I wouldn't hesitate to order another knock off but will make sure it works this time before I put the back cover back on!!! So in other words there's nothing wrong with your phone just that your battery is a lemon. The fact that it's the original battery your having problems with is even worse. If you like the phone spend the $100 and get a shop to replace the battery.
Exodusche said:
Only cheap battery's available for the 6p unless you get a ceno. I purchased a battery from eBay supposed "OEM." The first one did exactly what you first mentioned. Early shut downs and failure to turn on. I didn't even get those with the original battery just that it was getting bit tired. I messaged the seller and he gladly sent me another no questions asked. I've had that battery for 3 months now no battery sensor but works great. I wouldn't hesitate to order another knock off but will make sure it works this time before I put the back cover back on!!! So in other words there's nothing wrong with your phone just that your battery is a lemon. The fact that it's the original battery your having problems with is even worse. If you like the phone spend the $100 and get a shop to replace the battery.
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exactly true...:good:
I had the same issue, I tought the new battery was defective or false but it was because android 8.1 developer preview 1. I went back to android 8.0 and the issue dissapeared.
Hope it helps.
Exodusche said:
Only cheap battery's available for the 6p unless you get a ceno. I purchased a battery from eBay supposed "OEM." The first one did exactly what you first mentioned. Early shut downs and failure to turn on. I didn't even get those with the original battery just that it was getting bit tired. I messaged the seller and he gladly sent me another no questions asked. I've had that battery for 3 months now no battery sensor but works great. I wouldn't hesitate to order another knock off but will make sure it works this time before I put the back cover back on!!! So in other words there's nothing wrong with your phone just that your battery is a lemon. The fact that it's the original battery your having problems with is even worse. If you like the phone spend the $100 and get a shop to replace the battery.
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This is great to know, thank you. I'm having exactly the same problem as OP. I replaced the battery myself, I have no doubt that the battery is a cheap knock-off version even though it's got the Huawei branding and regulatory info on it.
I'll order another battery and see what happens. Cheers
I got the battery replaced and everything is great. Great battery life and no more restarting and locking up. Definitely was a battery issue.
what's the name of battery please?
Don't buy cheap knock off batteries. Remeber the original battery has a pretty fat ribbon cabble and also has the temperature controller built in the battery here's a pic
any link?
Probably Oreo 8.1 issue
gallegus said:
I had the same issue, I tought the new battery was defective or false but it was because android 8.1 developer preview 1. I went back to android 8.0 and the issue dissapeared.
Hope it helps.
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I have the same issue as everyone else posting here, except my battery is the original. The battery performance follows normal usage patterns. This means when I charge it, it eventually reaches 100%. When I'm normally using the phone on battery, it slowly discharges. Any phone acts like this.
My problems started when Oreo 8.1 was first installed. Other than being on the beta channel, this phone is not altered, or rooted.
Within fifteen minutes of using the phone heavily while on battery, the phone decides to shut down. The bars at the top and bottom of the screen turn bright red, the screen is greyed out, and it says "Shutting Down" in the middle of the screen. I have not traced this to any particular activity of mine. Usually just reading news or mail. When the phone shuts down, restarting will not work. It gets to the "android" screen, and shuts off again..
When I plug it into the charger The lightning bolt battery shape appears on the screen. Then the filling battery is shown, and it starts filling from very low. The second cycle of the filling battery starts filling from where I expect it to be: in the 80-95% range the phone was at when it crashed. At that point I can restart the phone, while plugged into the charger or not. The battery level indication after the phone is back is exactly what the battery was charged to when the phone crashed: usually 80-95%. I do not think it is a battery problem. I think the battery monitoring software is being interfered with.
Usually I can listen to an audio book with the screen off for a long period of time without triggering the crash. This does not require any network activity. Maybe that's a clue. Also, I have never crashed the phone while it is plugged into the charger. Maybe when the phone is in charging mode, the low battery monitor is not active, so it can't shut down the phone.
I have started putting adb into tcpip mode, and I've captured a few system logs of the phone as it crashed. There is no obvious crash at the end, but there are always a series of strange events, such as permission denials, and processes being killed. I think there may be an out-of-memory condition occurring. There is so much noise in the form of security violations being inserted into the log that it is difficult to determine which error is leading to the crash.
Perhaps I should try going back to Oreo 8.0.
xdamember143 said:
Don't buy cheap knock off batteries. Remeber the original battery has a pretty fat ribbon cabble and also has the temperature controller built in the battery here's a pic
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Where does one find such a battery?
Caboose27 said:
Where does one find such a battery?
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I bought mine on eBay awhile back but don't know if anyone sells the original batteries anymore. You can try though
nexus 6p shutdown issue
did going back to 8.0 solved nexus 6p shutdown issue..even exactly i am facing this i
No, I replaced the battery and that fixed the issue.

A mix of mechanical and ROM questions

2018 may be late in the game to become a new owner of a OnePlus 2 phone. But here I am. My main phone at present remains a Samsung Note 4, and I'm trying to get a feel for how this old (but not as old as the Note 4) phone can be repaired. My issues are a mix of battery, possible circuit board, and other problems / eccentricities.
The phone was given to me non-working. I have a minor-league reputation for rescuing phones, so thought I'd try this one.
First, I had to get it up and going. Nothing worked initially. I wasn't delighted to find out the battery is only accessible after removing two covers and about 30 microscopic screws. I reset it by pulling the small "plug" at top center-right and the phone decided to allow me to boot. I immediately (per instructions I found elsewhere here) went to fastboot and wiped the cache.
I did manage to install TWRP and the latest (as of a few days back) version of Lineage 8.1. But then the problems began again. The phone would suddenly, after charging for a while (and reporting a battery that was nearly charged), shut down. No charging icon showed on the screen.
Fast foward. Today, I got a cheap knock-off battery in the mail. It intially worked and I got it nearly charged. But after more spontaneous reboots I noticed something odd; in TWRP, the battery said only 50% charged while in Lineage it said 97% charged. So once again I wiped the cache and this time the ART/Dalvik cache as well (pointless, but ya never know).
This did get the two percentage reports matching up. And initially it got the phone working again. But alas, once again, the phone started the shutting down.
Currently, I'm leaving it overnight to charge - if in fact it is charging (how does one tell)? If that doesn't work, I'm thinking about using Odin to totally reflash the original version of the operating system.
Any other ideas or input - including laughing at me for bothering with this - is permitted.
I will say that the engineering of this phone compared to the older Note 4 leaves the Note easily the winner; to take its battery out is a matter of 20 seconds. Really not impressed with my OnePlus experience so far...
Thought I'd update things. After spending a day on sites (here and on the official OnePlus community boards) I tried any number of fixes. I'm reasonably convinced the only way to somewhat consistently start my particular OnePlus 2 phone is to:
1. Open it up, thus voiding the warranty (hehehe.... by now that's void anyway).
2. Unplug the battery's small plug at upper right-center of battery (a fingernail works fine, but do make sure the phone isn't plugged in!)
3. *Leave the back off* or at best gingerly snap it on but without attaching the screws. (Every time I did so, even after extensively using the phone while it lay on my sofa's arm and rebooting it numerous successful times previous to replacing the screws, the phone refused to reboot.)
4. I also cleaned the usb c socket with a wood toothpick and was a little surprised at how dirty it was; I did the same in a minimal way to the battery contacts.
5. I found no real use to having the actual OnePlus charger; I used it a bit but my best results came from the Samsung charger and a new (though cheap) usb c cable I nabbed via ebay.
Today I did get the phone going and intentionally wiped Lineage and installed the latest (2017) version of the OnePlus2 official os. It went on fine. I rooted it, installed apps, and (as mentioned) repeatedly shut down and restarted the phone, which promptly restarted with only a 3 second lag. I did this 5 times because one thread I found suggested this was an official OnePlus suggestion. (I rolled my eyes but did it anyway.) Played with the phone a bit, then shut it down again and screwed the back on. As noted, the phone suddenly wouldn't turn on again.
In summary, I'm not sure if this phone can be meaningfully resurrected. If I knew where what may be a short in it was, I could possibly replace that part. But I have little idea and am not quite the geek enough to sort that out. I am guessing at a short because without the lid or screws, it wants to work. It wants to be a good phone for me and I'll keep toying with it for a while longer.
Any suggestions appreciated.
Third post is a question for others:
Has anyone else experienced their OnePlus 2 working fine *without* the back cover screwed on, but as soon as it was screwed on the phone stopped working and wouldn't start again? And, if so, did they ever sort out why?
I'm going to make this a separate discussion.
Hey. I experienced the same symptoms with a "official" replacement battery I found online. Random reboots over and over again until I couldn't even turn it one anymore.
TWRP was always showing different battery percentages than OS.once I put back in my old but original battery that came with the phone it turned on again and it works flawlessly again.
maikl91 said:
Hey. I experienced the same symptoms with a "official" replacement battery I found online. Random reboots over and over again until I couldn't even turn it one anymore.
TWRP was always showing different battery percentages than OS.once I put back in my old but original battery that came with the phone it turned on again and it works flawlessly again.
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This is something I've read, and may well do. It also, however, raises another thorny set of issues re battery calibration. I understand that sometimes new batteries have to be "calibrated" by being charged, discharged completely, charged again, discharged completely, and charged yet again and discharged. After that, things are supposedly going to run right. Trouble is in my case, the phone doesn't want the battery; it keeps stopping completely and not restarting. Either the battery stats are wholly inaccurate (says around 57% charged during those brief times I've had it up) or I need to go with your idea. Trouble is there the original battery from this phone is dated 2015; I hope it has anything at all left to give.
shonkin said:
This is something I've read, and may well do. It also, however, raises another thorny set of issues re battery calibration. I understand that sometimes new batteries have to be "calibrated" by being charged, discharged completely, charged again, discharged completely, and charged yet again and discharged. After that, things are supposedly going to run right. Trouble is in my case, the phone doesn't want the battery; it keeps stopping completely and not restarting. Either the battery stats are wholly inaccurate (says around 57% charged during those brief times I've had it up) or I need to go with your idea. Trouble is there the original battery from this phone is dated 2015; I hope it has anything at all left to give.
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Mine is dated 2015 as well and I'm getting through the day with closely 3 hours of SOT.
maikl91 said:
Mine is dated 2015 as well and I'm getting through the day with closely 3 hours of SOT.
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I'm trying this in desperation. The phone has gone completely unresponsive at this point, and I'm looking at having a technological paper weight. Hope I can resurrect it but the odds are not good.
Some progress, some regress.
Here's what I'm seeing. I can get the phone up and running again after extensive recharging. As long as I leave the back of the phone off - that is, both the inner and outer backs - it seems willing to keep running. As soon as I snap the inner back into place, not even with the screws yet, the phone locks up. Soon after, around 10 to 20 seconds, it shuts off. Sometimes it will restart and other times it won't for a long time, even after unplugging and replugging battery.
Has anyone else run into shorting or grounding issues associated with the back (inner, the one w/ 18 screws) case?
I am now back to a dead phone. A new (3rd party) battery is my current hope... charging it for over a day now has not yet led to the phone showing any sign of life.
One other question: I know both this cable and charger work, but as they are not the "original" OnePlus charger / cable combo, could that be the difference? I'd appreciate it if there is any clear evidence regarding this question.
The below article raises a disturbing possibility, based on the reality that OnePlus cables and chargers are - by OnePlus' own admission - non-standard and possibly could harm other electronics. But on top of that, and not well explored in the article, is whether or not OnePlus' charger/cable combo might even be damaging to the OnePlus 2 (and other OnePlus phones). They "assure us" this is not the case. Hmm.
https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-responds-to-bad-usb-type-c-cables-658048/
I thought I'd update this thread with what may be the final installment.
I invested $70 in a highly bent but somehow still working second OnePlus 2 phone off ebay. (The guy had a great fall on a log story as to how the phone got bent.) Long story short... I gambled and won. That is, I gambled that the innards of the second phone would go into my first phone and that the first phone's screen would work. YES. And so, after playing amateur phone repairman, I have myself a OnePlus 2.
So many questions. Going to peruse this board now...

Nokia 8.3 5g - On T-mobile

I just bought this phone recently, mainly because it was $425 on Amazon. I was coming from a Galaxy s9+ that had cracks on both the back and the front. It was bought new. The s9+ that I have been making some comparisons to was bought used.
This phone is used mainly in a large metro area. I have not used this phone in areas where cell phone coverage may be spotty
Sim card: Same one I have been using since ~2015ish. Think It came from a Galaxy s5. The Nokia does not come with a Sim card, but does have the sim card extractor.
Android version: 11 (security patch level is 11/1/2021). This was upgraded from 10, which is what the phone comes with. The updates on t-mobile started almost as soon as I inserted my sim card, which worked flawlessly. I've had the same sim card for a few years.
Call quality. I haven't had any complaints about call quality. I can be heard quite clearly, as long as I am not to close to frozen food cases. I think the florescent lighting or the metal of the case interferes with the phone somehow. Backing away a few feet seems to correct this. Had the same issue with the Samsung. I can also hear others quite clearly.
Networking: the 5g indicator is usually on. I don't do more than lite browsing and social media on the phone. I also use Public transportation apps(for tickets and scheduling), banking, ridesharing & Kindle type apps. No problems with any of these.
There is one problem to report, that I haven't had for a few days. I have a strange hesitation when using a network related app. When using google voice dictation, sometimes it takes a few seconds before you can start dictating text. I've experienced the same thing in other network heavy apps like social media or just standard web browsing. I think it mainly happens when you are connected to wifi, but I haven't seen that problem in almost a week.
Sound: I definitely recommend using Poweramp or similar app with this phone so you can enable the eq built into poweramp. Out of the box, the sound was tinny and some of the mids were way too noticable, which can hurt if you have sensitive hearing. Depending on the headphones or earbuds you use you will have to adjust this so the mids are not as noticable and the Bass is more present. The speaker on the phone itself sounds OK for calls but when going to YouTube, there just isn't any bass at all. This is not a big deal to me as I don't generally watch video on my phone with the exception of a ticktock video you may see posted on Facebook. The headphones included are kind of tinny. I have also used those samsung headphones that have the wing to keep it in your ear. These have somewhat better sound.
Gaming: I don't use this phone for gaming and don't generally do android gaming as many of the games I have played in the past put a commercial in front of you every 30 seconds. I do have one puzzle game installed that works fine, but that one does not have any ads.
Screen: The adaptive screen brightness control will darken the screen in unusual situations, requiring me to raise the brightness. I think it happens mostly when bright sunlight hits the screen. It happened a couple of times when I am about to activate a bus ticket which is incredibly annoying when you have to activate the ticket, and pull your mask up to get on the bus. It seems to have gotten better lately, but I haven't had occasion to need a bus ticket for the last week. Other than that, the screen is good for what I use it for, pictures I have taken both with this phone and other phones look fine. When using kindle type apps like Kindle and FB reader, you may want to adjust the brightness or use night mode. FBreader has a brightness control on the left side of the screen, just swipe up down. Also FBreader, and I believe Kindle as well have a setting that won't darken the screen if the battery is below 50%
Dimensions: you will notice this phone in your pocket. It isn't that much wider than my s9+, maybe 1/8 inch on either side with a case on it. It is noticeably longer however, by about half an inch. Also, this phone is also heavier than my s9+, but I got used to it pretty quickly. I also had an LG g4 (hated that phone, happy when I turned it in), and the g4 was definitely awkward in your pocket. the Nokia is not as awkward but you will need to adjust it depending on activity. Don't drive with it in your pants pocket. It can be uncomfortable. I usually put it on the console.
Battery: I usually find myself charging this phone before bed. By the next day, if I don't charge it, the battery will be down to about 20%-30% the following evening, after I get home, usually by around 6pm-8pm. I generally try to let it get down into the teens or even lower before charging it during the week. To contrast that with the s9+, If it was 100% charged in the morning, by 8pm it will usually be almost out of power unless I charge it during the day. On Fridays or Saturdays when I go out for fun, however I will charge the phone even if it is at 50%. Ridesharing apps can drain the battery pretty quickly on my s9+, and leaving the GPS on in general I have noticed is a power drainer, so I only turn on the GPS when I need it. If I go out for the evening, I will also turn off wifi as this will also save power. The ridesharing apps on the Nokia seem to use noticably less power.
Charging: Don't use other chargers with this phone. I have a Samsung variable watt charger which will charge the s9+ in under an hour, but I noticed when I connected it once as a test, the Nokia phone kept going through this charging not charging cycle as though you were plugging and unplugging the charger every second. It also doesnt charge well if the charger is connected to a USB extension (the extension is not USB3). I use these cables to charge the s9+ (which is OK with using the extension usb cable) and the Nokia (which doesn't like the USB extension). From almost no power, the phone will get to about half in around 30 minutes (time approximate, I wasn't keeping track) and a full charge will take a little over an hour. It may be that USB3 cables like those I linked are required. I haven't used the cable included with the phone as those are usually crap.
I have connected the phone to my computer for file transfer and the connection is solid and does not time out. Also Total Commander with the LAN plugin works well also.
Thats all I can think of for now.
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Fingerprint scanner:
The s9+ fingerprint scanner is rear mounted and is covered with the same glass material the back uses. As such, it gets smudged quite frequently and will not effectively scan a fingerprint
The Nokia is side mounted and uses some type of composite material that does not get dirty. It's rare that it does not work. I like the side mounted scanner/on button as it is easier to get to with one hand, and it is easier for different fingers to use the scanner. One swipe usually does it.
Weight: I have an Iphone 11 for work, and it seems the Nokia weighs almost exactly the same as the Iphone, But the Nokia wins by a small margin in the weight category.
Just a quick update. 7% battery can last a long time on this phone, depending on usage. Especially if you turn off wifi
Adaptive brightness reminds me of the Acura CL I use to have, specifically the fact that the automatic transmission was always shifting, just like the adaptive brightness control. If you are reading something in a low light situation, you constantly have to turn the phone towards a lightsource and back again to be able to see what is on the screen. I turned off adaptive brightness and just keep it less than 50% most of the time. That seems to work better.
The side mounted fingerprint scanner is a little too conveniently located. Depending on how you hold your phone, you could turn the screen on in situations where you don't want to do that. It just takes an adjustment to how you hold your phone.
Thanks for the detailed review, I think Im going to get it.
careloads said:
Thanks for the detailed review, I think Im going to get it.
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I'm happy with it mostly. There is still the odd hesitation when going to dictation mode for anything, but it doesnt happen all the time. Also keep in mind, I'm in a large metro area with alot of coverage. The only time I dont get signal is at work, and wifi can be spotty at work also. But this is a known issue with for everyone where I work.
I went off brand using a Umidigi Bison before this one. The only thing that the Bison really beat this one was signal strength. I drive thru rural and a 30 second drop has turned into a 2 minute drop in coverage.
Everything else is as good or much better.
Turn 5G off, its not worth it. The 12 update will kill Dual Sim if you use it.
Just checking in. Battery still lasts more than a day. I keep gps off mostly and only turn it on for ridesharing apps, or mapping when driving. Wifi will be turned off as well if I know I am going to be somewhere where there is no wifi. These 2 tricks extend the battery life quite a bit. Facebook can be a bit of a drainer as I tend to watch reels alot.
Also recently got the 12 update. Hate Android 12 mostly. The design choices are simply horrible.
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The design choices are simply horrible.
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Nothing like going backwards over a decade in design eh?
Another weird problem I realize I've had for a couple of days now. A reboot fixed it. The ringer stopped working, even though sound did not.
It seems Nokia's need rebooting more often than Samsungs. Although, it could be an android 12 bug. I did not have this problem on android 11.
I was waiting for an Uber a few weeks ago, when my mobile signal suddenly dropped to 0. Had to reboot the phone. Would have tried the cell data button, but I didnt want to miss my uber. Rebooting fixed it. Androids seem to need rebooting more often.
Well, I have to play with this phone to get it to recognize anything plugged into it. Charging and Data connections can be very quirky on this phone. Rebooting seems to help, as does cleaning the USBC port. I am not entirely sure there is any physical damage. This may just be a case of slower hardware. When I plug in a USBC cable, either for power or charging, after a reboot + 5-10 minutes, it seems to work fine.
I bought this phone in December of 2021. Not sure if a warranty replacement is even worth the inconvenience, as I would have to get a cheap interim backup phone while waiting for the warranty replacement. I recently switched jobs and no longer have access to the job provided Iphone. Having a backup phone is something I have always wanted to to have, however. The Samsung I had has a cracked front and back, so that is out of the question. If anyone has any suggestions as to what to get, please post.
Another thing that's been happening is when my fingers are not touching the phone, apps will launch anyway as though I had. I have a glass screen protector (that I need to replace) on it, not sure if this is part of the problem.
Also, I originally thought that the fingerprint reader/button was very conveniently placed, I now think it should be a little higher up on the phone.
Have to get the phone serviced. it wont charge anymore. Since I bought it on Amazon and thru a 3rd party reseller, I don't think it will be covered under warranty. But if it is, I may just keep it as a backup phone and get something different. if not, I'll sell it on ebay for parts. The phone would have been fine if it weren't for all the quirks. Google dictation still hesitates. I have to reboot the phone almost every day. The battery still lasts a good while. But the damn phone has a crappy charging port. The charger works in every other device I plug it into.
Final reccomendation: avoid Nokia.
Reliability is a big deal, and they just don't have it
Well, anyone following this, I sent the phone to Nokia's service center in Florida. I have not gotten a communication yet as to whether I will be charged for the cost of repair or not:
Your NOKIA 8.3 submitted for repair has been received by the service centre and is the process of being evaluated and repaired.
You will receive an email update when completed and the phone is on its way back to you.
For any further assistance or support please contact us via https://www.nokia.com/mobile-support
Sincerely,
Nokia Mobile Care Team
From the way this is worded, it seems they may honor the warranty. We will see.
Still not sure if I will keep the phone as my daily driver. I still have the cracked s9+. It needs to be charged multiple times a day as I use my phone alot for work. The s9+ also has a tendency to get very warm.
Well, I got the phone back. I also ordered those magnetic cables. There are a few companies, but I ordered from NetDot on amazon. They work fine for charging your phone, but if you use android auto in your car and have to connect a cable (I'm not sure if cable connection is always necessary when using android auto, but it is for the car I sometimes use these days), then unless you have a car mount of some type, the cable will constantly be knocked out of the socket. I've also noticed that the usbc connector with the magnetic tip is easily removed from the phone itself. I've often pulled the cable out with magnetic connector. Bending the cable to remove it from the magnetic connector is a better option.
I won't be buying another Nokia as the USBC connector issue happens on a range of models, as I've discovered on Reddit.
A shame, really. But I don't expect them to get better.
On a side note, don't expect a tracking # on the return voyage. I even chatted with support and they could not get me one. The whole process took about 2.5 weeks for me. At least I got the phone back.
Going to start putting money aside for a new phone-non Nokia, I don't expect this one to last.

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