Hello XDA,
I'll keep it short and to the point. Before buying the Axon 7 (from Amazon Italy, so probably A2017G), I have a couple of questions. I know they've been answered before, but the answers I found were old and things may have changed.
1. Can the EU model's BL be unlocked, and CM flashed?
2. Does flashing CM remove the EU model's audio limitation?
3. In your opinion - Moto Z Play or Axon 7?
Thanks for your input
Moto Z's battery is low. 2600mAh is not enough. I think you like custom roms. so don't buy Axon 7. I'm regret to buy because of there is no custom Rom. you can buy OnePlus 3 or 3T
1 - All models can be BL unlocked. If by CM you mean CyanogenMod, then I don't know about the EU (2017G) version, but you sure don't want to considering how incomplete it is right now.
2 - Last I checked all sound on CM was a mess, however you can flash mods to remove the audio output limitation the 2017G model has.
3 - Neither. If you're aiming for the price range of an A7 buy the OnePlus 3T instead.
It sounds like community development, and a stock-ish ROM matters to you, which is why I recommend the OnePlus 3T instead.
I bought an axon 7 since it seemed like zte would support indy developers. They didn't, I sold it to a friend, friend got pissed because of the lack of wifi calling and crap reception, zte doesn't honor the warranty for reception issues since they blame your carrier, had to take phone back or lose a friend. That said, watching the doublespeak from zte and their fans optimism has been hilarious
There are three models of the Axon 7.
1. A2017 - Chinese model - not bad. Haven't heard people complaining about it.
2. A2017U - North American model - I have this, I like it. CM13 still has a few bugs but once those get fixed the flood gates on custom roms will open up big time. It is a nice phone.
3. A2017G - European model - nothing but complaints. I have never heard one person on here say anything good about this model, and any possible complaint that can be made about a smartphone has been made with this smartphone by EVERYONE! AVOID THE A2017G MODEL AT ALL COSTS!
The A2017U is a good one, is 100u$s less than a Oneplus3T, Nougat is coming, battery and speed are just great.
You have the money? Go for the Oneplus3T, if not, think about the A2017U, not the European version
WesTD said:
Moto Z's battery is low. 2600mAh is not enough. I think you like custom roms. so don't buy Axon 7. I'm regret to buy because of there is no custom Rom. you can buy OnePlus 3 or 3T
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I was actually considering the Moto Z Play - that one has a 3500 mAh battery, and is considered to have among the best battery life. About ROMS - I'm not a flashaholic. I just need a stable, CM/AOSP based ROM (I don't use Google Services).
I can't/won't buy a Oneplus 3T. First of all, because it's insanely expensive on Amazon or locally; and also because, coming from a Oneplus X, I don't support Oneplus's practices (they abandoned the X after one update, which was a year late).
BableMan said:
I bought an axon 7 since it seemed like zte would support indy developers. They didn't, I sold it to a friend, friend got pissed because of the lack of wifi calling and crap reception, zte doesn't honor the warranty for reception issues since they blame your carrier, had to take phone back or lose a friend. That said, watching the doublespeak from zte and their fans optimism has been hilarious
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Hmm... Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
tabletalker7 said:
There are three models of the Axon 7.
1. A2017 - Chinese model - not bad. Haven't heard people complaining about it.
2. A2017U - North American model - I have this, I like it. CM13 still has a few bugs but once those get fixed the flood gates on custom roms will open up big time. It is a nice phone.
3. A2017G - European model - nothing but complaints. I have never heard one person on here say anything good about this model, and any possible complaint that can be made about a smartphone has been made with this smartphone by EVERYONE! AVOID THE A2017G MODEL AT ALL COSTS!
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I definitely wanted the US model, but I can't buy it (U.S. Amazon doesn't ship to where I live). The 128GB/4GB Chinese model is available on AliExpress for cheaper than the normal EU model, so you're saying I should go for that?
I would say no. The Chinese model probably doesn't pick up your LTE bands in Italy. Just stay away from the A2017G model. There was a post here about getting the A2017U model shipped to Europe in the past. Don't know if it is still there though.
tabletalker7 said:
I would say no. The Chinese model probably doesn't pick up your LTE bands in Italy. Just stay away from the A2017G model. There was a post here about getting the A2017U model shipped to Europe in the past. Don't know if it is still there though.
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I actually live in Israel, and the Chinese model supports all the bands I need. That thread sounds interesting though, I'll look for it.
I have a A2017G and have nothing to complain about. You can install CM on this unit like all others U and chinese. I currently have the stock based rom from DrakenFX and the custom kernel BeastMode.
I am satisfied with that. Important for me will be the nougat update which will come to us this month.
I'm also using G model (Poland) and there's nothing wrong with it.
tabletalker7 said:
3. A2017G - European model - nothing but complaints. I have never heard one person on here say anything good about this model, and any possible complaint that can be made about a smartphone has been made with this smartphone by EVERYONE! AVOID THE A2017G MODEL AT ALL COSTS!
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I must disagree, I have the A2017G and there is nothing to complain about.
I was also trying to decide between the Moto Z Play and the Axon 7. I chose the Axon 7 for the Quad HD screen (beautiful for reading or movies), the faster processor (see YouTube videos of the Antutu video tests on the Moto Z Play), and optical image stabilization. I didn't expect to care about the front-facing speakers, but they're a pleasure. Also the phone is smaller in the pocket, the Moto Z Play is huge with lots of space around the screen.
Pros for the Moto Z Play: front fingerprint sensor (the Axon 7's is very fast and saves space being on the back but I don't find it as convenient), up to 1.5x longer battery life (my "3250 mAh" battery is really 3050 mAh but I don't care because it still lasts me 24h under typical conditions), more stock-like OS, flat screen is easier to find a tempered glass screen protector.
Overall I'm very happy with the choice of the Axon 7 (rooted, lots of Xposed modules, no CM so far) coming from the OnePlus One.
As a moto x pure owner (xt1575, 2015 edition), this is my last motorola product. Since lenovo took over, the promise of steady updates is a lie. The device is all but abandoned. Supposedly android 7 will be released for it at some point but nothing definitive. As for MM updates, I believe the most current one includes the august 2016 security updates. Nothing more recent.
I think it's a crap shoot with either company. The A7 has it's 4 carrier support (albeit sprint hasn't certified it yet). Where as the moto z play is primarily a vzw phone with some lte bands of other carriers. Not sure if the Z play can be rooted/bootloader unlocked either as it's a vzw device.
mariusfl0rian said:
I have a A2017G and have nothing to complain about. You can install CM on this unit like all others U and chinese. I currently have the stock based rom from DrakenFX and the custom kernel BeastMode.
I am satisfied with that. Important for me will be the nougat update which will come to us this month.
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How you did it? I can't unlock my bootloader I think everyone whit 2017G b08 can't unlock there bootloader and whit that no Cm or another ROM.
I think the a2017g it's the "ugly sun" of Zte they just don't give a f...
If I was you I would consider the one plus 3t, you can buy it in AliExpress.
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nelnel002 said:
How you did it? I can't unlock my bootloader I think everyone whit 2017G b08 can't unlock there bootloader and whit that no Cm or another ROM.
I think the a2017g it's the "ugly sun" of Zte they just don't give a f...
If I was you I would consider the one plus 3t, you can buy it in AliExpress.
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I did go back from B08 to B03 and followed this thread instructions to root and unlock my bootloader: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-install-twrp-unlock-bl-flash-t3517379
If you ask me how I did go back from B08(The same version as you) to B03, I just downloaded the B03 update.zip from an mirror and installed it trough the phone's recovery as a update. If you get an error when trying to update to B03, you have to enable OEM Unlock in developer settings.
Hope I helped you a little bit. If you need further information, just ask.
mariusfl0rian said:
I did go back from B08 to B03 and followed this thread instructions to root and unlock my bootloader: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-install-twrp-unlock-bl-flash-t3517379
If you ask me how I did go back from B08(The same version as you) to B03, I just downloaded the B03 update.zip from an mirror and installed it trough the phone's recovery as a update. If you get an error when trying to update to B03, you have to enable OEM Unlock in developer settings.
Hope I helped you a little bit. If you need further information, just ask.
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I'll give I try, thank you so much:good:good:
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mariusfl0rian said:
I did go back from B08 to B03 and followed this thread instructions to root and unlock my bootloader: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-install-twrp-unlock-bl-flash-t3517379
If you ask me how I did go back from B08(The same version as you) to B03, I just downloaded the B03 update.zip from an mirror and installed it trough the phone's recovery as a update. If you get an error when trying to update to B03, you have to enable OEM Unlock in developer settings.
Hope I helped you a little bit. If you need further information, just ask.
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By the way, do you have the b03 zip? I can't find it, zte just have the b08
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Here are all firmwares including the B03: https://mega.nz/#F!kYtRAJjJ!5tD1zPpo0nw2tJwhANA9pQ!tNsQhD5Y
mariusfl0rian said:
Here are all firmwares including the B03: https://mega.nz/#F!kYtRAJjJ!5tD1zPpo0nw2tJwhANA9pQ!tNsQhD5Y
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Thanks, I tried and a got a error at the step 23, when I must flash the recovery.bin, :s
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nelnel002 said:
Thanks, I tried and a got a error at the step 23, when I must flash the recovery.bin, :s
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Did you go back to B03? What error did you got? Give some more details. And please press the thanks button instead of writing it.
But also pm me and let's stay back to topic. I will try to help you there.
Hi, Just wanting to know does "Glove Mode" still exist after the Nougat update?
Thanks.
Hi,
Didn't find the option in my Axon 7 A2017U stock.
I have seen it in the Australian Marshmallow version, it was under "display settings".
Just want to confirm it's still there after the Nougat update please?
I have just ordered this phone and this is one of the main criteria that factored in the choice.
It's not too late to change to a different phone.
I have been informed by ZTE Aust, that it is still in Nougat.