Hello XDA,
I'll keep it short and to the point. Before buying the Axon 7 (from Amazon Italy, so probably A2017G), I have a couple of questions. I know they've been answered before, but the answers I found were old and things may have changed.
1. Can the EU model's BL be unlocked, and CM flashed?
2. Does flashing CM remove the EU model's audio limitation?
3. In your opinion - Moto Z Play or Axon 7?
Thanks for your input
Moto Z's battery is low. 2600mAh is not enough. I think you like custom roms. so don't buy Axon 7. I'm regret to buy because of there is no custom Rom. you can buy OnePlus 3 or 3T
1 - All models can be BL unlocked. If by CM you mean CyanogenMod, then I don't know about the EU (2017G) version, but you sure don't want to considering how incomplete it is right now.
2 - Last I checked all sound on CM was a mess, however you can flash mods to remove the audio output limitation the 2017G model has.
3 - Neither. If you're aiming for the price range of an A7 buy the OnePlus 3T instead.
It sounds like community development, and a stock-ish ROM matters to you, which is why I recommend the OnePlus 3T instead.
I bought an axon 7 since it seemed like zte would support indy developers. They didn't, I sold it to a friend, friend got pissed because of the lack of wifi calling and crap reception, zte doesn't honor the warranty for reception issues since they blame your carrier, had to take phone back or lose a friend. That said, watching the doublespeak from zte and their fans optimism has been hilarious
There are three models of the Axon 7.
1. A2017 - Chinese model - not bad. Haven't heard people complaining about it.
2. A2017U - North American model - I have this, I like it. CM13 still has a few bugs but once those get fixed the flood gates on custom roms will open up big time. It is a nice phone.
3. A2017G - European model - nothing but complaints. I have never heard one person on here say anything good about this model, and any possible complaint that can be made about a smartphone has been made with this smartphone by EVERYONE! AVOID THE A2017G MODEL AT ALL COSTS!
The A2017U is a good one, is 100u$s less than a Oneplus3T, Nougat is coming, battery and speed are just great.
You have the money? Go for the Oneplus3T, if not, think about the A2017U, not the European version
WesTD said:
Moto Z's battery is low. 2600mAh is not enough. I think you like custom roms. so don't buy Axon 7. I'm regret to buy because of there is no custom Rom. you can buy OnePlus 3 or 3T
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I was actually considering the Moto Z Play - that one has a 3500 mAh battery, and is considered to have among the best battery life. About ROMS - I'm not a flashaholic. I just need a stable, CM/AOSP based ROM (I don't use Google Services).
I can't/won't buy a Oneplus 3T. First of all, because it's insanely expensive on Amazon or locally; and also because, coming from a Oneplus X, I don't support Oneplus's practices (they abandoned the X after one update, which was a year late).
BableMan said:
I bought an axon 7 since it seemed like zte would support indy developers. They didn't, I sold it to a friend, friend got pissed because of the lack of wifi calling and crap reception, zte doesn't honor the warranty for reception issues since they blame your carrier, had to take phone back or lose a friend. That said, watching the doublespeak from zte and their fans optimism has been hilarious
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Hmm... Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
tabletalker7 said:
There are three models of the Axon 7.
1. A2017 - Chinese model - not bad. Haven't heard people complaining about it.
2. A2017U - North American model - I have this, I like it. CM13 still has a few bugs but once those get fixed the flood gates on custom roms will open up big time. It is a nice phone.
3. A2017G - European model - nothing but complaints. I have never heard one person on here say anything good about this model, and any possible complaint that can be made about a smartphone has been made with this smartphone by EVERYONE! AVOID THE A2017G MODEL AT ALL COSTS!
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I definitely wanted the US model, but I can't buy it (U.S. Amazon doesn't ship to where I live). The 128GB/4GB Chinese model is available on AliExpress for cheaper than the normal EU model, so you're saying I should go for that?
I would say no. The Chinese model probably doesn't pick up your LTE bands in Italy. Just stay away from the A2017G model. There was a post here about getting the A2017U model shipped to Europe in the past. Don't know if it is still there though.
tabletalker7 said:
I would say no. The Chinese model probably doesn't pick up your LTE bands in Italy. Just stay away from the A2017G model. There was a post here about getting the A2017U model shipped to Europe in the past. Don't know if it is still there though.
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I actually live in Israel, and the Chinese model supports all the bands I need. That thread sounds interesting though, I'll look for it.
I have a A2017G and have nothing to complain about. You can install CM on this unit like all others U and chinese. I currently have the stock based rom from DrakenFX and the custom kernel BeastMode.
I am satisfied with that. Important for me will be the nougat update which will come to us this month.
I'm also using G model (Poland) and there's nothing wrong with it.
tabletalker7 said:
3. A2017G - European model - nothing but complaints. I have never heard one person on here say anything good about this model, and any possible complaint that can be made about a smartphone has been made with this smartphone by EVERYONE! AVOID THE A2017G MODEL AT ALL COSTS!
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I must disagree, I have the A2017G and there is nothing to complain about.
I was also trying to decide between the Moto Z Play and the Axon 7. I chose the Axon 7 for the Quad HD screen (beautiful for reading or movies), the faster processor (see YouTube videos of the Antutu video tests on the Moto Z Play), and optical image stabilization. I didn't expect to care about the front-facing speakers, but they're a pleasure. Also the phone is smaller in the pocket, the Moto Z Play is huge with lots of space around the screen.
Pros for the Moto Z Play: front fingerprint sensor (the Axon 7's is very fast and saves space being on the back but I don't find it as convenient), up to 1.5x longer battery life (my "3250 mAh" battery is really 3050 mAh but I don't care because it still lasts me 24h under typical conditions), more stock-like OS, flat screen is easier to find a tempered glass screen protector.
Overall I'm very happy with the choice of the Axon 7 (rooted, lots of Xposed modules, no CM so far) coming from the OnePlus One.
As a moto x pure owner (xt1575, 2015 edition), this is my last motorola product. Since lenovo took over, the promise of steady updates is a lie. The device is all but abandoned. Supposedly android 7 will be released for it at some point but nothing definitive. As for MM updates, I believe the most current one includes the august 2016 security updates. Nothing more recent.
I think it's a crap shoot with either company. The A7 has it's 4 carrier support (albeit sprint hasn't certified it yet). Where as the moto z play is primarily a vzw phone with some lte bands of other carriers. Not sure if the Z play can be rooted/bootloader unlocked either as it's a vzw device.
mariusfl0rian said:
I have a A2017G and have nothing to complain about. You can install CM on this unit like all others U and chinese. I currently have the stock based rom from DrakenFX and the custom kernel BeastMode.
I am satisfied with that. Important for me will be the nougat update which will come to us this month.
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How you did it? I can't unlock my bootloader I think everyone whit 2017G b08 can't unlock there bootloader and whit that no Cm or another ROM.
I think the a2017g it's the "ugly sun" of Zte they just don't give a f...
If I was you I would consider the one plus 3t, you can buy it in AliExpress.
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nelnel002 said:
How you did it? I can't unlock my bootloader I think everyone whit 2017G b08 can't unlock there bootloader and whit that no Cm or another ROM.
I think the a2017g it's the "ugly sun" of Zte they just don't give a f...
If I was you I would consider the one plus 3t, you can buy it in AliExpress.
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I did go back from B08 to B03 and followed this thread instructions to root and unlock my bootloader: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-install-twrp-unlock-bl-flash-t3517379
If you ask me how I did go back from B08(The same version as you) to B03, I just downloaded the B03 update.zip from an mirror and installed it trough the phone's recovery as a update. If you get an error when trying to update to B03, you have to enable OEM Unlock in developer settings.
Hope I helped you a little bit. If you need further information, just ask.
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I did go back from B08 to B03 and followed this thread instructions to root and unlock my bootloader: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-install-twrp-unlock-bl-flash-t3517379
If you ask me how I did go back from B08(The same version as you) to B03, I just downloaded the B03 update.zip from an mirror and installed it trough the phone's recovery as a update. If you get an error when trying to update to B03, you have to enable OEM Unlock in developer settings.
Hope I helped you a little bit. If you need further information, just ask.
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I'll give I try, thank you so much:good:good:
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mariusfl0rian said:
I did go back from B08 to B03 and followed this thread instructions to root and unlock my bootloader: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-install-twrp-unlock-bl-flash-t3517379
If you ask me how I did go back from B08(The same version as you) to B03, I just downloaded the B03 update.zip from an mirror and installed it trough the phone's recovery as a update. If you get an error when trying to update to B03, you have to enable OEM Unlock in developer settings.
Hope I helped you a little bit. If you need further information, just ask.
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By the way, do you have the b03 zip? I can't find it, zte just have the b08
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Here are all firmwares including the B03: https://mega.nz/#F!kYtRAJjJ!5tD1zPpo0nw2tJwhANA9pQ!tNsQhD5Y
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Here are all firmwares including the B03: https://mega.nz/#F!kYtRAJjJ!5tD1zPpo0nw2tJwhANA9pQ!tNsQhD5Y
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Thanks, I tried and a got a error at the step 23, when I must flash the recovery.bin, :s
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nelnel002 said:
Thanks, I tried and a got a error at the step 23, when I must flash the recovery.bin, :s
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Did you go back to B03? What error did you got? Give some more details. And please press the thanks button instead of writing it.
But also pm me and let's stay back to topic. I will try to help you there.
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I'm in Germany and looking to buy a new phone. Since I really value the front-facing speaker of my HTC One m8 and the battery-swappable LG V20 will probably not be in Europe anytime soon, I was amazed by what the Axon 7 brings to the table.
I'm a happy rooter and modify my phone quite frequently, so rootability (and usually, unlockable bootloader) are a must for me. Since all the forum threads here are quite confusing, especially as to which variants can be rooted, I decided to ask in a general thread here:
Is there a possibility to reliably unlock and/or root the German version Axon 7?
P.S.: If not, recommendation of other phone would be welcome as well
I own the A2017G (the european or german Axon 7) and I already rooted it and running it together with xposed.
Sadly I could not root it with magisk; and suhide do not work with xposed therefore I cannot use any SafetyNet apps... well, that's not a big problem I think.
Mine is rooted with TWRP and Xposed since yesterday. using this german tutorial: www.android-hilfe.de/thema/guide-bootloader-entsperren-und-stock-bleiben-a2017u-a2017g.793464
Do you guys know if there is a stable stock android rom for the german version of Axon 7? I don't like the pre-installed stuff...
My recently bought (Feb 2017) Axon 7 has a firmware that is unusual.
The phone name: ZTE A2017_7383
Model number: ZTE A2017G
Android Version: 6.01
Android Security patch level: December 1, 2016
Baseband version
M8996FAAAANAZM-1.68528.1.71127.1
Kernel version: 3.18.20
Build number: ZTE A2017GV2.0.0B08
Note that the build number is a V2.0.0B08
This phone is incompatible with the A2017GV1.0.0B05 and A2017GV1.0.0B10, so beware. I semi-bricked my phone (no network connectivity anymore) and I can't find a replacement A2017GV2.0 software.
I contacted ZTE, but no reply yet.
The reason I upgraded was due to inability to connect to 4G or LTE networks, even though my provider is on LTE band 3 and band 7.
Can anyone help me with this problem?
I looked at the back of the phone, where the original stickers still haven't been removed. It says ZTE A2017, without the "G". Could this be a Chinese set and the supplier reflashed it with a modified B08 firmware?
Anyone has a phone with the sticker not yet removed and has a different model number? I need proof that this is not the international version.
Would a Chinese version work on a "G" version software?
laicc said:
I looked at the back of the phone, where the original stickers still haven't been removed. It says ZTE A2017, without the "G". Could this be a Chinese set and the supplier reflashed it with a modified B08 firmware?
Anyone has a phone with the sticker not yet removed and has a different model number? I need proof that this is not the international version.
Would a Chinese version work on a "G" version software?
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The A2017 is the chinese version...you can check this link to get the latest nougat update.....100% working
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/a2017-nougat-twrp-flashable-djkuz-t3571714
laicc said:
I looked at the back of the phone, where the original stickers still haven't been removed. It says ZTE A2017, without the "G". Could this be a Chinese set and the supplier reflashed it with a modified B08 firmware?
Anyone has a phone with the sticker not yet removed and has a different model number? I need proof that this is not the international version.
Would a Chinese version work on a "G" version software?
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as far as I know A2017 variant doesn't have capacitive keys under the screen, so you would notice it right away. My sticker does spell "Model: A2017G" though. Have you made sure that the IMEI numbers written on the sticker match with your phone actual IMEI numbers too? (to be sure it's not a sticker issue)
laicc said:
I looked at the back of the phone, where the original stickers still haven't been removed. It says ZTE A2017, without the "G". Could this be a Chinese set and the supplier reflashed it with a modified B08 firmware?
Anyone has a phone with the sticker not yet removed and has a different model number? I need proof that this is not the international version.
Would a Chinese version work on a "G" version software?
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USA (U) & International (G) = Hardware keys.
Chinese = No Hardware keys , and uses On-screen Navigation keys.
About the V2, that's something else.... Need further findings thought.
DrakenFX said:
USA (U) & International (G) = Hardware keys.
Chinese = No Hardware keys , and uses On-screen Navigation keys.
About the V2, that's something else.... Need further findings thought.
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About the Chinese version, the 64GB model doesn't have hardware keys, that's right, but the 128GB version does. I have one.
Thanks everyone, just to close this issue, for the benefit of everyone, my discussions with the Ebay seller revealed that the handset is actually an A2017 Chinese set, and reflashed with their custom ROM to emulate an A2017G. Thats why it didn't work very well, and practically cannot be OTA'ed or updated.
This same message has been cross posted to [A2017G] B10 Update Released 1 2 3
Thread by rikin93
So sorry if I repeat myself here, but I just wanted everyone to know that the issue is closed.
I have the same issue, So how did you manage to solve it? did you flash the Chinese version? (A2017) if so how?
or did you ask the seller for the custom ROM to flash it back to that?
thank you
dude215p said:
I have the same issue, So how did you manage to solve it? did you flash the Chinese version? (A2017) if so how?
or did you ask the seller for the custom ROM to flash it back to that?
thank you
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I had looked at the various options available here on this XDA site, like flashing back to the stock Chinese A2017 rom, or converting it to an A2017U, but in the end, I didn't think it was worth the trouble, and could even make the problem worse.
They did mention that their supplier has the custom rom, and he could probably get it for me. But that means I will be stuck with that rom forever with no possibility of an OTA.
I eventually convinced the Ebay seller to accept the return for a full refund.
Hope this helps.
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I had looked at the various options available here on this XDA site, like flashing back to the stock Chinese A2017 rom, or converting it to an A2017U, but in the end, I didn't think it was worth the trouble, and could even make the problem worse.
They did mention that their supplier has the custom rom, and he could probably get it for me. But that means I will be stuck with that rom forever with no possibility of an OTA.
I eventually convinced the Ebay seller to accept the return for a full refund.
Hope this helps.
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Hey, thank you for sharing,
I decided to do the opposite, and dived into getting my phone in working condition by flashing the chinese rom on it, although I never done anything like this before. I think I'll make a noob's guide to it, because while there are a lot of good tutorials out there, there are a lot of details kind of glossed over on how to do certain small steps, and you'll have to search for other guides on how that particular step is done.
For now let's just say that I'm happily running Nougat 7.1 with the Google Now launcher, and Google stock apps.
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Hey, thank you for sharing,
I decided to do the opposite, and dived into getting my phone in working condition by flashing the chinese rom on it, although I never done anything like this before. I think I'll make a noob's guide to it, because while there are a lot of good tutorials out there, there are a lot of details kind of glossed over on how to do certain small steps, and you'll have to search for other guides on how that particular step is done.
For now let's just say that I'm happily running Nougat 7.1 with the Google Now launcher, and Google stock apps.
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That's great. I would really like to know how you did it. Reading the forum, even with the fairly detailed instructions that have been posted, can be intimidating for noob's like us. Is your 4G working good now? Thanks in advance.
Hi!
I am sorry if this has been asked here before. I'm fairly new to this kind of stuff.
So I'm a foreigner living in Japan. Due to the allure of local warranty, I decided to get the Axon 7 (A2017G JPV).
It has been months since the last Nougat update came to other A2017Gs but hasn't arrived on the A2017G JPV. So I thought, may be ZTE Japan was just taking a longer time, etc. So recently, I decided to contact customer support. And their answer was unclear at best. They were apparently still deciding if they would release a Nougat update for Axon 7.
So here's my question. Considering that my Axon 7 is also A2017G, is there a way for me to install the latest A2017G European ROM or any other A2017G Stock ROMs for that matter, without unlocking my bootloader and rooting? And get OTA updates from A2017G European? If so, can someone please kindly point me in the right direction, I'm getting a bit lost.
If that isn't possible, is there a way, to install the stock A2017G ROMs (aside from JPV) and then relock the bootloader afterwards?
Please help me. Thank you.
jjquinto said:
Hi!
I am sorry if this has been asked here before. I'm fairly new to this kind of stuff.
So I'm a foreigner living in Japan. Due to the allure of local warranty, I decided to get the Axon 7 (A2017G JPV).
It has been months since the last Nougat update came to other A2017Gs but hasn't arrived on the A2017G JPV. So I thought, may be ZTE Japan was just taking a longer time, etc. So recently, I decided to contact customer support. And their answer was unclear at best. They were apparently still deciding if they would release a Nougat update for Axon 7.
So here's my question. Considering that my Axon 7 is also A2017G, is there a way for me to install the latest A2017G European ROM or any other A2017G Stock ROMs for that matter, without unlocking my bootloader and rooting? And get OTA updates from A2017G European? If so, can someone please kindly point me in the right direction, I'm getting a bit lost.
If that isn't possible, is there a way, to install the stock A2017G ROMs (aside from JPV) and then relock the bootloader afterwards?
Please help me. Thank you.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/download-center-factory-images-ota-t3606547
Absolutely no need to root.
Enjoy.
Hamburgle4 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/download-center-factory-images-ota-t3606547
Absolutely no need to root.
Enjoy.
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Hi
Thank you for replying so quickly.
Please bear with me as I am still a bit confused.
The link you gave mo contains Factory Images for the A2017G, right? Therefore, I should just put the factory images (zip file), into the root directory of my SD Card, and update via settings (no need to unlock bootloader or root, right?)?
My A2017G (JPV) is now on A2017G JPV1.0.0B03.
Which factory image should I use?
Thank you very much.
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Are you mad?!!! This won't work as the signature's don't match.
At best you end up with a failed update, at worst a brick...
ultramag69 said:
Are you mad?!!! This won't work as the signature's don't match.
At best you end up with a failed update, at worst a brick...
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Now I'm scared. Haha
Do you have any advice on how I should proceed with this? Thank you very much.
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Considering @ultramag69 said, do you think I should still proceed with this?
I don't think you have to the same radio firmware with all the G version out there.... If you dare to try it probably you will end up bricking your phone.... So don try. Unless you are sure can warranty claim it if it is briked
Unfortunately this region locking thing came in, sometimes it's different hardware for different regions but mostly it's to stop the grey import trade...
Due to this it is a requirement to unlock your bootloader if you want to flash other region/carrier roms, which again is a trial in itself...
If you do wish to try it, make sure you have a flashable version of your FULL stock rom, not an OTA - the difference is an OTA is a patch, usually of a few hundred Mb or so to update parts of your ROM, the full ROM is a stand-alone installation that will completely replace the current ROM.
Generally this will get you out of hot water but be aware this is also not 100% guarantee...
It will probably also delete all your data, back up first....
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Unfortunately this region locking thing came in, sometimes it's different hardware for different regions but mostly it's to stop the grey import trade...
Due to this it is a requirement to unlock your bootloader if you want to flash other region/carrier roms, which again is a trial in itself...
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What I'm confused about is he's not asking to flash A2017A/U firmware (where region locking comes into play) on his device, only another country's A2017G fw so why would he need to unlock bootloader? It's still fw for the global model if I understand correctly.
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What I'm confused about is he's not asking to flash A2017A/U firmware (where region locking comes into play) on his device, only another country's A2017G fw so why would he need to unlock bootloader? It's still fw for the global model if I understand correctly.
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I'm on your side - the modem file might be different, but since the hardware is the same, it should work. Maybe the modem file has improved signal stuff for Japan, but it's extremely improbable considering ZTE's craptastic devs...
Also, what could be the worst thing that could happen? Here are the possibilities:
- Works: enjoy
- Installation failed: Should fail before even changing files anyways
- Soft brick: get to recovery, download full update zip, install, wait for Nougat
- Hard brick: "I woke up this morning and it was off, doesn't boot anymore, I want a replacement"
And if the modem is too crappy you can always go back to Japan's firmware
I believe that the Japanese version is different from the other G versions, at least on the modem level. Japan uses some bands that are not used by any other country in the world, so unless ZTE Japan decided to release the G model knowing that it would have some connectivity issues on all Japanese carriers, the Japanese G model must have at least a different modem.
Bold = band is present in the global G model
KDDI: CDMA BC0 / BC6, LTE 1/11/18/41
NTT Docomo: UMTS 1/9/19, LTE 1/9/19/21/28
Softbank: UMTS 1/8/11, LTE 1/8/9/41
I kinda get what you're getting at after looking further into the models. Basing off the spec sheets, Amazon JP has the exact same A2017G TD-LTE with matching bands sold by ZTE. Whereas on the ZTE JP page, it instead matches the bands of something named Axon 7 TD-LTE JP (couldn't find model number, but sounds like OP's A2017G). This has over half the exact bands available on A2017G, additional UMTS bands 6 & 19 and one CA band.
I think someone in another thread previously mentioned about potential signal issues with the Axon 7 being sold in Spain after flashing DE fw. Looking at their spec sheet, it appears to have a few bands missing, may have additional bands, but it's hard to tell since only the frequencies are stated. Could just be anecdotal as you'd think with the greater range of frequencies, it shouldn't face those issues. Anyways this is a separate matter, and potentially an apples to oranges comparison.
Thank you all for your advice and insights.
I figured, damn all worries, and just used the recovery mode to flash the update.zip.
Lo and behold, it was updated with seemingly no issue. Even tried if my mobile data would work properly. And it did.
Thanks everyone!
jjquinto said:
Thank you all for your advice and insights.
I figured, damn all worries, and just used the recovery mode to flash the update.zip.
Lo and behold, it was updated with seemingly no issue. Even tried if my mobile data would work properly. And it did.
Thanks everyone!
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Great to hear. Also vindicates my apparent "madness" lol.
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Great to hear. Also vindicates my apparent "madness" lol.
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Yeah it was nonsense, they are both a2017Gs anyways
We're all a bit mad though, flashing stuff on a 400 dolar thingy...
ive got the A2017 Chinese, bought from aliexpress. Ive rooted and installed the twrp flashable B15 from @djkuz, but the nougat firmware is awful for my DoCoMo phone reception (in far regional Nagasaki). So i need a method to either flash the modem for A2017G (not sure which B# release), or wait for the next chinese firmware release and hope for the best. Any suggestions or experiences to improve my reception? Is it the modem?
Thanks for all the contributions to this thread, as it has got me in the right direction.
jjquinto said:
Thank you all for your advice and insights.
I figured, damn all worries, and just used the recovery mode to flash the update.zip.
Lo and behold, it was updated with seemingly no issue. Even tried if my mobile data would work properly. And it did.
Thanks everyone!
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Hey I know this is an old thread but I thought I would poke in and add my feedback. I also live in Japan and have the A2017G. I bought it because it was the only phone on the market at the time that [supposedly] supported Google Daydream. Later I realized that only the US version actually worked with Daydream. Later on support was added to European ROMS (when upgraded to 7.1.1). But for some reason the Japanese ROM, despite being 7.1.1 would say 'Incompatible Phone', even when installed manually. I contacted ZTE's customer service, which was terrible; all they said was "we don't know when it will be supported". This was about a year ago, so this week I just got sick of waiting, found the German firmware (A2017G-N-B10), installed it and everything works fine. The radios have no issues, and I was able to download Daydream right from the marketplace.
Thanks for everyone who contributed to this thread!
Okay, so I used to love rooting my phones, but I mostly dealt with flagship phones in the US which made rooting and flashing a cakewalk. I understand some of the nitty gritty, so when I got my first phone in Japan, I was super excited about rooting it. But after reading this forum for hours, I have so many questions...my phone build is A2017G JPV1.1.0B03.
I read this but this mostly focused on using an update on this phone.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/help/a2017g-japan-to-a2017g-european-a2017g-t3608411
1. If that thread is correct, that means I technically just have the European version of the phone with Japanese modems installed. Is that correct?
2. Also, does that mean (if I were not to root the phone) I would need to install a European Axon 7 Oreo update for it to actually work on the phone? Would the US version fail?
3. I can't seem to find the modem for my phone. I can upload some screenshots later but can someone clarify if I'm right that it's a "B03" or am I looking at the wrong information?
4. There is no Oreo release for Japan, so does that mean I can't flash an Oreo ROM because there won't be any modems for this?
That's all for now, but I'm sure I have a lot of follow-up questions to your answers. Your help is greatly appreciated.
Unlock bootloader, install twrp, instal "G" model bootstack, instal any custom rom, then flash "G" modem in twrp, reboot. No matter where you device are from, the model matters. If its "G", its a european version and its only what you need to know. If you want stock oreo and didnt recieve through OTA, download the update in ZTE website for your "G" version, put it in a sdcard then reboot your phone to recovey then select "install update from sd card" option.
Basically, the model of the phone is printed on the back of it down the bottom.
A2017 is China version.
A2017U is US version.
A2017G is everything else (Global) version. It's not actually euro.
The modem software has to be for the actual model of the phone, not your location in the world.
Don't correlate software versions between Chinese, US and Global, they use different numbering systems. Only concentrate on what is for your model.
The rest of this pertains to A2017G as that is what you seem to have.
They start at B01 (usually pre-release beta) and go up from there but each new Android version eg Nougat, Oreo etc means the numbers restart from B01.
Nougat B03 has nothing to do with Oreo B03.
Look at the software version, A2017GV1.1.0 is very old, the 1.1.0 is the key to the Android version. 1.2.0 is Nougat, 1.3.0 is Oreo so you have Marshmallow at 1.1.0 and B03 release from that Android generation.
It seems confusing at first but it's actually quite simple.
RobboW said:
Basically, the model of the phone is printed on the back of it down the bottom.
A2017 is China version.
A2017U is US version.
A2017G is everything else (Global) version. It's not actually euro.
The modem software has to be for the actual model of the phone, not your location in the world.
Don't correlate software versions between Chinese, US and Global, they use different numbering systems. Only concentrate on what is for your model.
The rest of this pertains to A2017G as that is what you seem to have.
They start at B01 (usually pre-release beta) and go up from there but each new Android version eg Nougat, Oreo etc means the numbers restart from B01.
Nougat B03 has nothing to do with Oreo B03.
Look at the software version, A2017GV1.1.0 is very old, the 1.1.0 is the key to the Android version. 1.2.0 is Nougat, 1.3.0 is Oreo so you have Marshmallow at 1.1.0 and B03 release from that Android generation.
It seems confusing at first but it's actually quite simple.
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I'm so used to dealing with multiple modems for the same model of phone in the US (between the major carriers and stuff) that I was overthinking it.
Thanks a ton. That simplifies things so much...and also makes me wonder why updating never occurred for the Japanese release. It's not like there isn't language support for newer versions of Android, but maybe not for the MIUI? I need to be more careful choosing my next phone then, though probably it should be an AOSP phone like the Zenfone or Pixel.
Guess I have my work cut out for me this weekend. Time to run a giant backup and start rooting. Thanks again for all your help. I like this phone (though I often accidentally hover/touch the home button when typing, and I hope there's a sensitivity fix for that :laugh so I want it to last for a while before I get my next one.
It's still a good phone, I look at new phones and think, hmmm, nice, but what will I gain on a daily basis? Nothing more to be honest. The A7 has enough power for me still. The one thing I could really use would be a higher capacity battery. Was looking at Huawei phones but now, well.....
For updates, they had issues with OTA and reverted to only releasing for a whole ROM download for update from SD card.
I personally won't apply an OTA for mine even now at Oreo. Must be a whole ROM to flash with the updater. That's all I've done with it since purchase and it works great still. A lot of people seem to have all sorts of weird issues after applying OTA updates.
Sweet. As someone with some experience with this stuff, do you have any tips or tricks I should know moving forward? I'm going to try rooting it tonight.
-EDIT: Quick little question, my phone says the Android version is 7.1.1 but that would be Nougat, right? Or is it actually Marshmellow?
7.1.1 yeah, Nougat. That doesn't make sense from your first post.
Was it used when you got it or new? Have you checked the model from what's on the back of it, not what software says it is?
I keep mine stock, can't advise on rooting etc. I use it with personal and work SIMs and it has to pass requirements including encryption to run Microsoft InTune and our company portal and use it in work mode. Bootloader hasn't even been unlocked. The most I did was uninstall some built in user apps through ADB.
I also have a 2017G bought in Japan. I unlocked it and worked on it based on this forum, and I can say that it behaves as any other 2017G. I am not interested to use the stock ROM, but yes, I remember that it was on Nougat version when I received it.
I have the A2017 (china). As above, update your phone to the region. As a result of having a china variant, i think i miss out on band 28 and some other essential bands for reception. I get 3G/low 4G connections and a lot of bad reception areas (countryside living). Its no problem.
Currently running AEX 6.5. Search some of my recent posts for how I updated to this version.
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I have the A2017 (china). As above, update your phone to the region. As a result of having a china variant, i think i miss out on band 28 and some other essential bands for reception. I get 3G/low 4G connections and a lot of bad reception areas (countryside living). Its no problem.
Currently running AEX 6.5. Search some of my recent posts for how I updated to this version.
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Appreciate it. I will try to work on it this weekend, as last weekend I just didn't have the time...
The phone was brand new when i bought it. It was on a "super sale" though, going for 12,000 yen (like 110 bucks or so). I was thinking about getting a Zenfone but if I could save the money and make it to at least Oreo I'd be happy. Been having issues with the battery whenever I use more than 2 apps at a time.
If you could link an unlocking guide and a ROM that worked well for you that would be great. I have one I plan to use but I'm always open to suggestions. After the first time, I'll feel more comfortable with it. In the worst case scenario that I brick this thing I'll just buy the Zenfone early :laugh:
The Zenphone 6 is looking a viable buy now.
My Axon 7 is still good so not really looking but I did just get a new Axon 7 Mini for use as a media player. It still has AMOLED screen, stereo speakers, headphone jack, DAC for the jack etc. No hi res bluetooth though. Cost me AU$149 new in box from retail store. Bargain! How much is a dedicated music player which is crap at movies or just cant do them?
Chucked my 128Gb SD in. Sounds good playing through the car hifi, lower 3.5 jack output matches HU aux in impedance better than Axon 7 which can overload the input at high volume. Very balanced and clean sound.
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Appreciate it. I will try to work on it this weekend, as last weekend I just didn't have the time...
The phone was brand new when i bought it. It was on a "super sale" though, going for 12,000 yen (like 110 bucks or so). I was thinking about getting a Zenfone but if I could save the money and make it to at least Oreo I'd be happy. Been having issues with the battery whenever I use more than 2 apps at a time.
If you could link an unlocking guide and a ROM that worked well for you that would be great. I have one I plan to use but I'm always open to suggestions. After the first time, I'll feel more comfortable with it. In the worst case scenario that I brick this thing I'll just buy the Zenfone early :laugh:
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Where did you get in on a super sale? website in Japan?
Obvious unlocking guide is this one https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-axon-7-custom-oreo-roms-newbies-t3786693
Give yourself 2 hours to get the job done, and there are a few guides on youtube for unlocking the bootloader and installing TWRP (if you havent already).
If you cannot root the phone by your own discovery, I dont think you'll be up for installing a custom rom. It takes a degree of risk, and research. Being successful in the attempt is worth it.
Do a backup in TWRP, or get titanium backup pro (paid) to do a backup of your essential apps and data (email, messaging, google authenticator etc). I think titanium backup is better, especially if you are going from android 7 to 8 or 9 and different twrp versions.
If your phone boots following Oki's guide (Option 1), then scroll to the last page to my post about taking it to android 9 on AEX.
As your phone is A2017G, search for the necessary files in the forum corresponding to your modem. There are plenty of links.
Good luck and let us know you are successul!
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Where did you get in on a super sale? website in Japan?
Obvious unlocking guide is this one https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-axon-7-custom-oreo-roms-newbies-t3786693
Give yourself 2 hours to get the job done, and there are a few guides on youtube for unlocking the bootloader and installing TWRP (if you havent already).
If you cannot root the phone by your own discovery, I dont think you'll be up for installing a custom rom. It takes a degree of risk, and research. Being successful in the attempt is worth it.
Do a backup in TWRP, or get titanium backup pro (paid) to do a backup of your essential apps and data (email, messaging, google authenticator etc). I think titanium backup is better, especially if you are going from android 7 to 8 or 9 and different twrp versions.
If your phone boots following Oki's guide (Option 1), then scroll to the last page to my post about taking it to android 9 on AEX.
As your phone is A2017G, search for the necessary files in the forum corresponding to your modem. There are plenty of links.
Good luck and let us know you are successul!
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I bought it at Rakuten Mobile. There was a super sale and it was like 80% off, lol.
I tried using the guide over the last couple of days and no matter what I've done, I can't seem to get to recovery after doing the flashing (step 9). I was able to flash a stock image back on, but then when I try again it's the same results. I'm at a loss as to why but...there's another guide using the Axon7Tool.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-install-twrp-unlock-bl-flash-t3517379
The downside is that I work two jobs tomorrow so I won't have time to try this new one out but I think I downloaded everything already. This is kinda frustrating though..
-EDIT: I used the unbricking guide to EDL flash the B10 Nougat and it is a different experience than what I had before...geez, seems the Japanese version was severely neglected. If I run into problems with the other guide I feel comfortable EDL flashing Oreo. Really appreciate the support guys, let me know what you think. Before I started this, my battery was lasting barely 8 hours with only LINE and Chrome being the main background apps...
Not sure it's relevant here any more but I have a 128 Gb A2017 which I put a G build on, after being a bit miffed at some of the stuff (mostly Google based) I couldn't use on the original. I really don't know that much about what I'm doing but it all seems to work OK, though an old battery life problem has returned so I'm going to be asking elsewhere (probably) about how to replace the modem software. I also have a bit of a problem with GPS intermittently not working (going on and offline) but I suspect that's probably a hardware problem rather than the build. Mine is on
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Not sure it's relevant here any more but I have a 128 Gb A2017 which I put a G build on, after being a bit miffed at some of the stuff (mostly Google based) I couldn't use on the original. I really don't know that much about what I'm doing but it all seems to work OK, though an old battery life problem has returned so I'm going to be asking elsewhere (probably) about how to replace the modem software. I also have a bit of a problem with GPS intermittently not working (going on and offline) but I suspect that's probably a hardware problem rather than the build. Mine is on
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you can't. There are 3 modem variants by region (US, china, global) and many versions for each, but they are not interchangeable and flashing another has already wiped some IMEIs long ago (doesn't always happen though)
what happened to Android 10 for Motorola g7 ?
ericanderson said:
what happened to Android 10 for Motorola g7 ?
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Typical Motorola slowness.
ericanderson said:
what happened to Android 10 for Motorola g7 ?
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So far, from what's been reported, Brazil, Russia, and Europe have all started receiving the Android 10 OTA for the G7....
I'm in the U.S, (which sucks because we're usually the last of the bunch to get Moto OTA's).. Nothing here yet...
From what I've heard, it should be here sometime between now and mid-July...
I'm a noob when it comes to android roleouts. Just got my G7 4/64 river. It's sitting at Pie w/ April 2020 Sec. Updates.
I am dying to unloc and root with the latest TWRP and Magisk.
My phone is a XT-1965-6 'International' Dual SIM...Lang is English and my location is Eastern US, if it matters.
Will unlocking and rooting bork my ota Security Updates? If so, can I just say screw it and flash the latest '10' ROM
and do manual security updates as they come?
Also....I use TracFone 'bring your own phone' and my SIM is still in my Moto G5+...btw TF uses AT&T in my regeon.
SO...Do I need to contact TF and req. a SIM just for my new G7 or can I just pop it in and go?
Sorry for any noob-ish questions...ya gotta start somewhere!
my new G7 or can I just swap it over?
SIM swapped ok...next is unlocking the bootloader...fingers crossed! Do I want the matching 'retin' Stock ROM or should I use the 'retail' for the XT-1962-6 'International' version? What's the diff between 'retin' and just 'retail' ?
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So far, from what's been reported, Brazil, Russia, and Europe have all started receiving the Android 10 OTA for the G7....
I'm in the U.S, (which sucks because we're usually the last of the bunch to get Moto OTA's).. Nothing here yet...
From what I've heard, it should be here sometime between now and mid-July...
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Still no Android 10 OTA JUN 20
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SIM swapped ok...next is unlocking the bootloader...fingers crossed! Do I want the matching 'retin' Stock ROM or should I use the 'retail' for the XT-1962-6 'International' version? What's the diff between 'retin' and just 'retail' ?
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Be careful flashing stock ROMs. You want to always be sure to be using the same stock ROM that came with your phone.
(I think IN is a country code, not International...I could be wrong tho.)
Best of luck. Always make backups! Any good ROM dev puts that as one of the first steps...listen because they are wise!
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BOOOOOOO motorola. C'mon...just c'm the heck-on with it already. I guess if I do update to another G series, (tiny tiny chance) I'll be sure to get the cheaper variant models, like the Play or Plus or Platinum or Super Awesome..-wtheck ever moto wants to call it-since they come ahead in line with updates.
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Be careful flashing stock ROMs. You want to always be sure to be using the same stock ROM that came with your phone.
(I think IN is a country code, not International...I could be wrong tho.)
Best of luck. Always make backups! Any good ROM dev puts that as one of the first steps...listen because they are wise!
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BOOOOOOO motorola. C'mon...just c'm the heck-on with it already. I guess if I do update to another G series, (tiny tiny chance) I'll be sure to get the cheaper variant models, like the Play or Plus or Platinum or Super Awesome..-wtheck ever moto wants to call it-since they come ahead in line with updates.
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Yeah...RETIN = Retail India
I'll be using an exact bld. #s matching signed stock ROM ofc. I've recently unlocked my Moto G5+ and with the gracious assistance of a kind soul, I was able to get TWRP flashed, followed by a flash of the latest Majisk...ofc there's a few steps in between. Afaik and been told, rooting of the G5+ is pretty similar to the G7...the biggest differences being the the G7 is a 64bit and also handles the default encryption a little differently. That being said, I'm gonna make/keep a thread as I work thru the process of making a basic outline of the steps...then with the help of knowledgeable members and staff, go thru and fill in the exact details for each step...fingers crossed !!
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Yeah...RETIN = Retail India
I'll be using an exact bld. #s matching signed stock ROM ofc. I've recently unlocked my Moto G5+ and with the gracious assistance of a kind soul, I was able to get TWRP flashed, followed by a flash of the latest Majisk...ofc there's a few steps in between. Afaik and been told, rooting of the G5+ is pretty similar to the G7...the biggest differences being the the G7 is a 64bit and also handles the default encryption a little differently. That being said, I'm gonna make/keep a thread as I work thru the process of making a basic outline of the steps...then with the help of knowledgeable members and staff, go thru and fill in the exact details for each step...fingers crossed !!
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I do believe that's mostly correct, because the partitions seem to be roughly the same BUT, theres a post under the G7 category that is titled something like "TWRP for moto g7"
If the G5 also has a/b slots then yes, you should be fine however I'd still look for the correct TWRP feed to ensure that you are using the correct one for this dev. One of these posts about a custom ROM had included a version of copy-partitions zip called copy-partitions-payton zip, DO NOT USE this one. This device is river, not payton, so when I was using that on my previous device, also a G7, it missed partitions during my backup that later proved to be a headache. If you need a link to follow for either unofficial TWRP or the correct copy-partitions, let me know. Goodluck!
I have updated my G7 to Android 10 (RETUS)
I feel like G7 is reborn after update.
It's full ROM update through LMSA and wiped everything to avoid any possible problem.
True dark theme for all applicable apps
Cam has improvement and it has much less noise
Dolby Audio can be disabled with USB C digital headphones and audio is great
Screen color temperature turned slightly blue-green (it was reddish tone)
You may notice a brief screen flash when it turns the clock off
18 watts USB PD charging stays unchanged
So far I am pretty happy with Android 10 update