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If I apply the OTA update do you think that Sprint will re-block ROOT access? (Just like they did with OTA update on 6/4/2010). I know its hard to tell since the update isnt out yet, but do you think the chances are high that they will?
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If I apply the OTA update do you think that Sprint will re-block ROOT access? (Just like they did with OTA update on 6/4/2010). I know its hard to tell since the update isnt out yet, but do you think the chances are high that they will?
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Doesn't matter, all the good stuff will be stripped out.
Even if they do block it, phones aren't shipping with it, so only those who update without paying attention to the warnings will be affected.
I know this is semi-unrelated but where is the evidence to suggest froyo is coming tomorrow? I would pretty much jump for joy right now if this appeared to be true, but I wont be too disappointed if there is none.
Just wondering!
The update is not rumored to be froyo, it's supposed to be a maintenance release to fix a few issues.
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Hi guys! I am new to the android world coming from windows mobile where OTA updates didn't exist. So I am curious to learn how this works. Does it just update itself? Do I have to do anything?
Also this is abit off topic but is there a file explorer that comes with android or do I have to download an app?
You will get a popup window asking you if you want to update to xx.xxx.x.xxxx.
You can choose, yes or no.
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Hi guys! I am new to the android world coming from windows mobile where OTA updates didn't exist. So I am curious to learn how this works. Does it just update itself? Do I have to do anything?
Also this is abit off topic but is there a file explorer that comes with android or do I have to download an app?
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It gives you a notification that there is a new update and lets you choose to download it.
Android has no file explorer, you have to get one from the market. I use ASTRO all the time.
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The update is not rumored to be froyo, it's supposed to be a maintenance release to fix a few issues.
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awww lame, thats right I read about that on friday. crap here I went and got my hopes up despite secretly knowing about this smaller update.
Oh well, I'm totally down with better Wi-Fi connectivity (and heres hoping for N support) better battery life and a few other fixes.
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awww lame, thats right I read about that on friday. crap here I went and got my hopes up despite secretly knowing about this smaller update.
Oh well, I'm totally down with better Wi-Fi connectivity (and heres hoping for N support) better battery life and a few other fixes.
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Wifi can't be fixed. Can give to more juice to boost power, but reduce battery life. Or HTC can be magical like Apple and just change all the bars to full signal. For the most part, the current weak signal issue is a display issue.
If this OTA fixes grounding issue and patches HTC's network/battery draining Friendsteam, it would be considered a sucess.
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Wifi can't be fixed. Can give to more juice to boost power, but reduce battery life. Or HTC can be magical like Apple and just change all the bars to full signal. For the most part, the current weak signal issue is a display issue.
If this OTA fixes grounding issue and patches HTC's network/battery draining Friendsteam, it would be considered a sucess.
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If it fixes the fps issue
rockdrummersrock said:
awww lame, thats right I read about that on friday. crap here I went and got my hopes up despite secretly knowing about this smaller update.
Oh well, I'm totally down with better Wi-Fi connectivity (and heres hoping for N support) better battery life and a few other fixes.
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The "Better battery life" was quoted out of context, it only applies to people using facebook app. "Addresses Social Networking Sync issue with Facebook application which can improve battery performance"
So is this update pretty much useless? I think ill pass if it doesnt really fix anything but wifi
What about screen sensitivity?
jdawg0024 said:
If I apply the OTA update do you think that Sprint will re-block ROOT access? (Just like they did with OTA update on 6/4/2010). I know its hard to tell since the update isnt out yet, but do you think the chances are high that they will?
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I dont get it. Why does everyone keep mentioning the original OTA blocked ROOT?
Did the OTA on 6/4/2010 and still used the same Toast root as everyone else.
The only thing that broke was Unrevoked and that was likely due to an incidental change of system files that they depended on initially.
Doubt the next OTA will do anything on purpose to root methods either.
It wouldn't surprise me if they close the root loophole in the OTA particularly since HTC has gotten so much backlash over the 30fps limit and how much the devs are embarrassing them with the whole thing.
Custom ROMs will all be based off the OTA just like the first one, so I don't see what people are worried about. You keep your root and get the benefits.
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If it fixes the fps issue
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I have this really really really really powerfully nagging doubt about that, but I am also hoping.
Woke up and installed the ota I got this morning seems a little quicker anyone else???? Seems more fluid in browser scrolling for sure!
I got the update as well. Mine is lagging more now than it use too. I think it has to do with the index service constantly running because my battery is dropping fast. Like 13 percent in an hour with only 9 minutes of screen on time.
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Woke up and installed the ota I got this morning seems a little quicker anyone else???? Seems more fluid in browser scrolling for sure!
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Is this your first or second ota update?
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Is this your first or second ota update?
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I got the OTA this morning too, its the 2nd one.
I wonder if installing these OTAs will make root harder but they're pretty small so i'll just do it...
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I got the OTA this morning too, its the 2nd one.
I wonder if installing these OTAs will make root harder but they're pretty small so i'll just do it...
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2nd I'm really noticing a diffrence
i still haven't taken the first one b/c i don't wanna patch any exploits just yet - if they do that.
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i still haven't taken the first one b/c i don't wanna patch any exploits just yet - if they do that.
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I think most people have taken them by now. Also since this is the wifi version and isn't tied to carriers, It might be easier to unlock. But then again samsung knox makes everything questionable.
Doubt they have someone sitting around looking for exploits at samsung. I mean if apple fixes exploits after jailbreaks and not before I doubt samsung does
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i still haven't taken the first one b/c i don't wanna patch any exploits just yet - if they do that.
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What exploits? We don't even have root yet.
Don't worry about me, I'm just bitter because it's not available.
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Woke up and installed the ota I got this morning seems a little quicker anyone else???? Seems more fluid in browser scrolling for sure!
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I agree. May be placebo, but my tab does seem more responsive. Update was around 9 megs.
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What exploits? We don't even have root yet. .
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and that's my point, we don't have root yet so no reason to plug anything, esp if there's nothing wrong with my set up as is. i don't want an update the blocks downgrades or other exploits.
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and that's my point, we don't have root yet so no reason to plug anything, esp if there's nothing wrong with my set up as is. i don't want an update the blocks downgrades or other exploits.
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Since we don't have any exploits yet, Its unlikely for samsung to discover and block them on their own.
Yeah, we don't even have root yet! There weren't any exploits patched that we know of, since we haven't even found an exploit in the first place!
I'm going for it. i don't think iv'e even heard of anyone attempting to root yet. I'll bet the update won't effect root. They mentioned stability updates, not security update.
Took both ota's
First one was out of the box, and this mornings. Does seem smoother.....
Definitely seems smoother...
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Even my magazine seems smoother, if that's possible great job, samsung
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I haven't taken either yet. I was worried about getting the path to root blocked and I have been happy so far. The reasoning here seems sound though. No exploit so no reason to block.... I'll take em then.
you guys are most likely right, but i'm paranoid after the s4 incident.
root requires existing exploits. if you already have root you don't need the exploit present. when you patch, you do just that you patch holes, performances, issues. the patches don't really tell you much of anything anything. i'd just feel better off not patching yet after what happened to the s4. efuse got blown on down low. i never took that "performance" update either.
I don't think this OTA update has a placebo effect It's pretty fast...
It did turn my transitions back on in the developer settings but I am keeping them on because it is wicked smooth and fast now. It wasn't that bad before but I see a noticeable difference imo.
I also noticed there is less time from when I hit the power button and when the screen comes on. Much faster!
How about you guys and gals???
Hi! I see so many different answers regarding how to return to an older firmware but most of them are for people who are rooted or have custom Roms? I updated to Nougat and encoutered some issues with critical apps I need and now want to return to the stock firmware the phone came with. Do I just download the firmware and run Odin with one of those guides?
Tyvm!
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Hi! I see so many different answers regarding how to return to an older firmware but most of them are for people who are rooted or have custom Roms? I updated to Nougat and encoutered some issues with critical apps I need and now want to return to the stock firmware the phone came with. Do I just download the firmware and run Odin with one of those guides?
Tyvm!
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Hmm, surprised there were no replies to this query. I just unwittingly took the Nougat update today and broke FoxFi.....and have found the same basic thing...that there are lots of instructions out there for downgrading, but none seem to specifically refer to non-rooted VZW users.
I downloaded API3 6.0.1 firmware but ODIN fails when trying to flash.
Am I just stuck on Nougat? If so, time to sell this piece of junk!
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Hmm, surprised there were no replies to this query. I just unwittingly took the Nougat update today and broke FoxFi.....and have found the same basic thing...that there are lots of instructions out there for downgrading, but none seem to specifically refer to non-rooted VZW users.
I downloaded API3 6.0.1 firmware but ODIN fails when trying to flash.
Am I just stuck on Nougat? If so, time to sell this piece of junk!
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Why not use the debloat rom and native tethering? More than one way to skin a cat.
Well that doesn't really answer the question, but I did the root thing a few months ago and it was way too much of a performance and battery hit to stick with.
Trust me, if I could root, debloat, and have close to the same performance, I'd jump back on the train. This is the first android phone I've ever had that I used without root... Dating back to the HTC Hero! I hate Verizon and Samsung for locking this thing down... And believe this will be my last Samsung phone.
But for now, I need to know if, how to get back to MM
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Well that doesn't really answer the question, but I did the root thing a few months ago and it was way too much of a performance and battery hit to stick with.
Trust me, if I could root, debloat, and have close to the same performance, I'd jump back on the train. This is the first android phone I've ever had that I used without root... Dating back to the HTC Hero! I hate Verizon and Samsung for locking this thing down... And believe this will be my last Samsung phone.
But for now, I need to know if, how to get back to MM
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The Hybrid ROM is not-rooted. You get the performance of the stock kernel with a very well debloated system. It also has the hotspot fix implemented. The ROM even passes SafetyNet. I haven't downgraded to MM from Nougat, so I can't give any insight on that part.
Okay then... That's very interesting.... I haven't kept up with XDA since I gave up on root.... I know nothing about this hybrid rom option but will definitely be reading into this!
Thanks
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Okay then... That's very interesting.... I haven't kept up with XDA since I gave up on root.... I know nothing about this hybrid rom option but will definitely be reading into this!
Thanks
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/development/rom-t3576124/page13
I have it running on two phones and have no gripes.
I too updated to Nougat, and I'm not happy with it at all. The calendar app, dialer/contacts app, and notification shade are all worse IMO. I'm really interested in going back to stock Marshmallow. Can I use the Hybrid ROM to do that? IS there any way to go back to stock Verizon Marshmallow, but also NOT get the OTA update reminder in the notification shade?
Thanks for any insight/help on this!
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I too updated to Nougat, and I'm not happy with it at all. The calendar app, dialer/contacts app, and notification shade are all worse IMO. I'm really interested in going back to stock Marshmallow. Can I use the Hybrid ROM to do that? IS there any way to go back to stock Verizon Marshmallow, but also NOT get the OTA update reminder in the notification shade?
Thanks for any insight/help on this!
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The hybrid rom is just 7.0 debloated for vzw and tmo, but working on all us s7 flay/edge variants. The only way back would be odin if Samsung didn't lock the bootloader to not allow a downgrade
So....in other words I'm up the creek without a paddle. Maybe I'll just buy an unlocked one and sell mine.
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So....in other words I'm up the creek without a paddle. Maybe I'll just buy an unlocked one and sell mine.
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The unlocked ones aren't bootloader unlocked, just carrier unlocked. So, when they get the N update, they will also most likely not be able to downgrade. I would suggest the hybrid and staying with the demon you have than to worry about root and associated apps, but to each their own. There are free themes that can help with things and apps galore to customize most of the phone.
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So....in other words I'm up the creek without a paddle. Maybe I'll just buy an unlocked one and sell mine.
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well that's exactly how I felt the day the update attacked my phone........but I gave the hybrid ROM a chance.........and these folks here were right.......I'm actually far better off now than I was before the 7.0 update.
Granted, I speak from the perspective of an unlimited data user, and having the ability to wirelessly tether with the native app alone is HUGE for me.
But my phone does seem considerably faster and smoother now.
Had to figure out how to get things the way I wanted them....like to disable "heads up / peek" notifications.
I don't love the white look either....wish there was a dark mode, but that's really my only complaint. This switch to the hybrid ROM, IMO, is a big step up from my MM days with this phone. :good:
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well that's exactly how I felt the day the update attacked my phone........but I gave the hybrid ROM a chance.........and these folks here were right.......I'm actually far better off now than I was before the 7.0 update.
Granted, I speak from the perspective of an unlimited data user, and having the ability to wirelessly tether with the native app alone is HUGE for me.
But my phone does seem considerably faster and smoother now.
Had to figure out how to get things the way I wanted them....like to disable "heads up / peek" notifications.
I don't love the white look either....wish there was a dark mode, but that's really my only complaint. This switch to the hybrid ROM, IMO, is a big step up from my MM days with this phone. :good:
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Check the theme app. There are dark themes there thay help out a lot.
spearoid said:
well that's exactly how I felt the day the update attacked my phone........but I gave the hybrid ROM a chance.........and these folks here were right.......I'm actually far better off now than I was before the 7.0 update.
Granted, I speak from the perspective of an unlimited data user, and having the ability to wirelessly tether with the native app alone is HUGE for me.
But my phone does seem considerably faster and smoother now.
Had to figure out how to get things the way I wanted them....like to disable "heads up / peek" notifications.
I don't love the white look either....wish there was a dark mode, but that's really my only complaint. This switch to the hybrid ROM, IMO, is a big step up from my MM days with this phone. :good:
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Does this change the colors of the notification shade and such? I don't use any stock launchers, icons, etc....I use Nova Launcher
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Okay so I went ahead and looked into it a little further....perhaps I will find one that gives me what I want.....a little skeptical of custom themes in general....boy how I miss the simplistic Holo days!
Thanks guys for the input! I'll consider the hybrid rom. It might be what I do. Can the hybrid rom have the contacts app and calendar app from the stock marshmallow rom? If I had those I could probably live with the rest.
Just thought I'd update people who come here looking to do the same thing. You CAN use ODIN to reinstall the stock 6.0.1 image even after you've updated to Nougat. You have to turn on the hidden "developer options" in the S7's settings first, but after that it works perfectly. Then you just need to disable the packages that download/notify you about the OTA update.
Thanks goes to CVertigo1, and everyone else here, for helping me out with this! So happy to be back on Marshmallow! Maybe in a few months they'll change the apps/UI back and I'll try Nougat again. One can hope!
OK, here's the latest. I rolled back to 6.0.1 just fine, but unfortunately I believe Samsung locked the system with the late September update. That means I can't use ADB or Package Disabler Pro to hide/block/disable the OTA update packages. So, I can't disable the packages that stop the OTA update unless I rollback to a ROM before they locked the system. Unfortunately again, the baseband is different for the older updates, so I can't rollback that far.
So, now I have Marshmallow back, but I have the annoying notification update that won't go away too. Still looking for a way around it without root. If anyone has any ideas please let me know!
"Thanks Samsung for locking our phones!" -said no one ever
Alright... last update I think. I found a different app that gets the job done. It's called BK Package Disabler. After you install it you can do a search for "sdm". Disable both of those packages, and the OTA notification goes away, and it doesn't look for any new ones either.
Still on 6.0, but daily SYSTEM UPDATE to 7.0 occurring. Can I shut them off to keep 6.0 for a few more months?
S7 on Verizon
Yeah, if you download BK Disabler from the app store you can stop the notification about the update. Just search for "sdm" in the app. Two packages should pop up. If you disable both of them you should be set.
HOWEVER, I don't know much about this app, so I am not endorsing it. I used it and it worked, but I wasn't able to find a lot of information about it on the forums. So, use at your own risk.
QF1 released, June Security update. Some outlets say there are bugfixes and battery optimizations, probably just a security update.
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QF1 released, June Security update. Some outlets say there are bugfixes and battery optimizations, probably just a security update.
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Just updated mine.
Nothing new.
Same old story
I keep getting notifications of stuff like this, yet I accept and nothing seems to apply or change at all. I just wanna know when one of these updates will stop my phone from rebooting 3-4x a day!!
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I keep getting notifications of stuff like this, yet I accept and nothing seems to apply or change at all. I just wanna know when one of these updates will stop my phone from rebooting 3-4x a day!!
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go back to LL, you won't have that issue.. I recently went back, and will not be going back to MM again.
I don't suppose there's an OTA way of doing that bs having to usr ODIN? I figure if I'm going to go through all the trouble of ODIN that I may as well just root and do custom ROM, kernel, OC, etc etc.
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Pretty much what the title says.
Probable reasons:
Want to start fresh with Oreo
Out of habit with previous phones and major updates
It's a major release, YES.
Good you asked, this place is going to be full of idiots who don't wipe asking why they're having this problem or that.
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It's a major release, YES.
Good you asked, this place is going to be full of idiots who don't wipe asking why they're having this problem or that.
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Given the news oreo has been scraped, your best to just revert to N as oreo won't be getting any security updates
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Given the news oreo has been scraped, your best to just revert to N as oreo won't be getting any security updates
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Will I be able to downgrade from Oreo to Nougat using Odin without triggering Knox? Samsung Pay is essential to me.
You could get a reset before updating to Oreo. In this way, you will update on a clean phone. It is list installing an OS for the first time.
I didn't do a reset and i have had zero problem after a week now.
It's not a requirement, but yes, it's advised to do a factory reset after a major update like this.
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Given the news oreo has been scraped, your best to just revert to N as oreo won't be getting any security updates
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It hasn't been scrapped. Telling people to downgrade back to Nougat is crazy....
Samsung themselves said those who already have this Oreo build are ok to remain on it. It will be updated in due course.
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It's not a requirement, but yes, it's advised to do a factory reset after a major update like this.
It hasn't been scrapped. Telling people to downgrade back to Nougat is crazy....
Samsung themselves said those who already have this Oreo build are ok to remain on it. It will be updated in due course.
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Where samsung says this? i see only on a certain fan site of sammy
in fact some people install it and doesn't exists the oreo firmware for that country so how samsung can update
E.x. ITV Italy no brand no had oreo but flashing will be Oreo with itv/itv/itv
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It's not a requirement, but yes, it's advised to do a factory reset after a major update like this.
It hasn't been scrapped. Telling people to downgrade back to Nougat is crazy....
Samsung themselves said those who already have this Oreo build are ok to remain on it. It will be updated in due course.
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...I think the action to cancel world rollout speaks volumes; i.e. samsung themselve lacks confidence in their own product...
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mdfpido said:
Will I be able to downgrade from Oreo to Nougat using Odin without triggering Knox? Samsung Pay is essential to me.
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i have no idea , sorry.
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...I think the action to cancel world rollout speaks volumes; i.e. samsung themselve lacks confidence in their own oreo cookie...
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i have no idea , sorry.
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It looks as though a newer version is in the works. Saw the article today, but that didn't come from Samsung but Sammobile.
I think Samsung prevented a more catastrophic PR incident if it rolled out a buggy Oreo firmware to more countries. Buggy might be too harsh given the fact that I like what I'm getting out of it in terms of overall smoothness and speed but that's what I feel. Lots of missing features like that 3D Touch contextual menu when you long-press on an icon. App Info and other options are missing. I'm sure there are more that only Samsung knows.
Call me crazy conspiracy theorist but I think that FXXXU1CRAP or something like that firmware was not intended to be released but somehow it did.
It was progressively released in many markets. It wasn't a mistake.
Still, after a such a beta program to have to rollback the update is a face-palm
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...I think the action to cancel world rollout speaks volumes; i.e. samsung themselve lacks confidence in their own product...
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No, they pulled it because some people were experiencing random reboots, that's all. They just want to fix those before rolling out to other countries.
No need for tinfoil hats.
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No, they pulled it because some people were experiencing random reboots, that's all. They just want to fix those before rolling out to other countries.
No need for tinfoil hats.
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theres far more issues then that from the research ive done...
Anyways, your reason alone is enough to keep a guy like me on N
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theres far more issues then that from the research ive done...
Anyways, your reason alone is enough to keep a guy like me on N
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I've been on Oreo CRAP since release and had absolutely no issues. No reboots, not issues at all. Not sure what research you've done, but yea....I'm more than happy with it.
Even the betas were flawless.
jkolner said:
I didn't do a reset and i have had zero problem after a week now.
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Me too
"Research" = I believe random **** I read on the internet.
eventually do you suggest the factory reset or not?