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no super user after hard reset

Hey all,
I've recently rooted my htc hero with 2.1...5 version. All went fine, I followed regaw's step by step guide so it was a snap.
After that I removed these apps using shell from /system/app folder:
Sprint_TV.apk
Sprint_Navigator.apk
Sprint_TVWidget.apk
Sprint_NFL.apk
Sprint_Nscar.apk
amazonmp3.apk
Stock.apk
Stock.odex
DCSStock.apk
DCSStock.odex
HtcFootprints.apk
HtcFootprints.odex
HtcFootprintsWidget.apk
HtcFootprintsWidget.odex
LearnMore.apk
com.htc.StockWidget.apk
com.htc.StockWidget.odex
VoiceDialer.apk
VoiceDialer.odex
HtcSoundRecorder.apk
HtcSoundRecorder.odex
Those are all from the "safe to remove" thread. I also took out quick office and ringtone trimer using the Titanium backup app.
I didn't get any free space so reading the posts I noticed I had to do a hard reset (restore to factory defaults). So I backed up all my apps and data using the Titanium backup, ran another nandroind backup so I have the most recent one and off I went and did a hard reset.
When it came back, all removed apps were gone and it was back to zero. I loaded Titanium backup but also noticed my Super user app was gone. I figured, ah... of course, I have to root it again. I did get a prompt about the OTA for .6 for which I said FU and cancelled it and just followed the root guide again.
And this is where I could not get that Super user app to get on there. After step 7 (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572), the app is just not there and Titanium backup says it can not find root and it will not work.
Unrevoked sh script goes through but no Super user app SO I did the nandroid restore and I'm back to where I left off.
Anyone can guess why I can't root again. I checked the version and I had .5 on it.

anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

looks like I'm on my own with this

Hmm.
I would try flashing a different ROM, just to see what happens.

obsanity said:
reading the posts I noticed I had to do a hard reset (restore to factory defaults). So I backed up all my apps and data using the Titanium backup, ran another nandroind backup so I have the most recent one and off I went and did a hard reset.
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Where did you read this? I'm running the stock 2.1 and I removed all those apps as well (except the footprints one coz I actually use that app and love it).
When I removed the bloatware, I cleaned the cache with cache cleaner and restarted the phone, I wiped the dalvik cache as well just for good measure and I got the extra memory to show on the phone. I use the systray app to check the memory. If thats not showing, I suggest you run damageless' rom since it looks just like the stock rom and has apps2sd (but it still has some of the bloatware on that you will have to remove) so you don't have to worry about the internal memory.
Although when I used apps2sd, I remember getting stuck in a boot loop once, was probably my fault since I forgot I had apps2d and formatted the sd. Not sure where I read, but while booting, the phone looks for some file on the sd which it couldn't find. There's pros and cons, you can read it on the wiki.

forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581976&highlight=nascar&page=3
I imagine I can't post links yet so just copy and paste the above in your address bar.
The page is all about guys asking why the space isn't going down after they have removed a tone of sprint junk. When you click on the 4th page of this thread the answer it clear in few posts down.
When I did a hard reset the space was definitely a lot more but that also wiped all my apps so I imagine it would have grown a bit after I installed them back.
I'll try to wipe stuff from cache but I don't want to wipe my Google settings, sms and other settings. Is there a general cache where it just cleans all of it except settings?

Wiping the phone wipes all nonstock apps, and superuser is not a stock app.
You've gotta wipe dalvik, not data.
Looks like it's time for a nandroid.

abcdfv said:
You've gotta wipe dalvik, not data.
Looks like it's time for a nandroid.
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I don't understand what you mean by dalvik??
Also, what do you mean "time for nandroid"?
I realize superuser is not a stocked app and it will get wiped but it should be installed back when I root it again and that was not happening. Read my first post.

obsanity said:
I don't understand what you mean by dalvik??
Also, what do you mean "time for nandroid"?
I realize superuser is not a stocked app and it will get wiped but it should be installed back when I root it again and that was not happening. Read my first post.
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Uh... you know how to boot into recovery, right?

Yes I do. I've just noticed that wiping dalvik is in the recovery menu as an option. I'll try that and see if it clears some room. That's not going to clear my settings will it?

Just tried it and it gave me: "Error : Run 'wipe dalvik' via adb!"
So I went over to adb shell and ran "wipe dalvik" it gave me some instructions on wiping data:system:all. So I ran "wipe dalvik /system" and it gave me the same thing. I'm not sure I'm doing this right but I'm still not seeing more room. Was that the correct cmd?

Looks like the stocked apps do not free up user memory because they are in the system folder and not in data. So removing any of them will not show any more space for apps. Unless the dalvik wipe actually redistributes room it won't do me any good. So it looks like my case is closed.
Thanks for all your help.

Titanium Backup to system app

The Titanium Backup Pro-version has an option to change application status from a user app to a system app and vice versa. But how can I make a TB itself into a system app? I want to do this in case of need for system factory reset. I had to factory reset my phone just a couple of hours ago, because I got it stuck so bad that I had to pull the battery out of it and when it restarted it had forgotten all the defaults and when asked about a launcher i chose Zeam and automaticly checked the option that said "use as default". Zeam then forceclosed and forceclosed and fc,fc,fc.... So basically I couldn't get anywhere. I managed to close phone and restart it, but now it remembered the defaults and opened Zeam force closing it time after another. I closed the phone again and went to CMW-recovery and wiped the caches and made a factory reset (maybe not a smartest solution, but I couldn't think of anything else). And then when opening the phone I noticed that some apps (E-mail, file manager, Talk, etc..) that aren't included in the custom ROM (void. (2.2.2; #eridanus)) but ones I had backupped from previous ROM and transfered to this were automaticly included, because when backupped, were saved as system apps and installed automaticly as such. So I went to Market and bought a Pro-version of TB and set some other apps(SlideIt keyboard) as a system ones in case I screw the phone up again, but I cant figure out how to make TB a system app itself, since then I wouldn't even have to go to Market to restore my phone in case of another factory reset.

All of the apps you downloaded will almost always placed in the folder /data/app Just use root explorer to copy the apk files there to a safe place for backup. The system apps will also be loaded during start up. They are located in /system/app You can read more in this forum in order to help yourself make progress in the learning path.
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Got it, thanks!
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Have you tried Links2SD, it also has super powers similar to Titanium Backup, and will allow you to change it from a system app to an user app, and then to uninstall it completely.

[Q] what will happen to the paid app after flashing new rom

Some roms require a full wipe/factory reset before installing. Of course that will delete all apps including the one that I bought. Do I need to buy them again?
Also, will the 'titanium backup' backups the homescreen settings (i.e., the app shortcuts created on main screen)?

Your apps are attached to your gmail account, as long as you sign in on your device with the same account after flashing/wiping, you can redownload the paid apps.
Titanium backup by default will not backup homescreen settings, but if you manually backup the launcher and its data then it can restore the settings.
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Yeap once you buy your apps, they're yours for good. You can sign in a whole different device and your apps in the play store still belong to you, you just open the playstore and click on the lil arrow thing up at the top for the "My Apps" page. It will open to your installed apps and if you swipe to view the page to the right it shows all apps, which includes any app you previously downloaded but isn't installed.
And also when you wipe data and install a new rom, It will have you sign into your google account in the setup process right after the wifi connection screen. Once setup is complete and you're all booted up, if you just leave the tablet alone and let it settle a few minutes, it's going to automatically install all the apps you had installed on your last rom from the play store, unless you've changed the default backup/restore settings.
Make sure with titanium backup, you NEVER install system apps, which are the red ones. You can set the filter to User apps only before backing up your apps. Then you'll load the rom and complete the setup and let it settle while it installs all the apps it's going to from the play store. Then you can just batch restore any missing apps. I would batch restore the apps only, and then go back and restore only the app data that you actually need. For instance you may want to restore a game with a thousand levels of progress, but don't restore app data just to keep from typing a username and password into an app one time which takes about four seconds.
I help a lot of new guys get started wiping, installing roms, and setting up and try to teach them along the way. I let them learn instead of doing it for them. Here's what I've found to be the best way to learn.
Make a nandroid backup of current setup. Then wipe data, cache, dalvic cache, and system, install the rom and gapps, and reboot and setup. Once it's setup let it settle in and sync and all that good stuff. You want the boxes asking if you want to back up the tablet and restore to the tablet in the setup process both checked.
After you've booted, set up, and let all the apps install that it's going to install, then reboot into recovery and make another nandroid backup, if using TWRP you can name it like "ExampleRom_B4Titanium." Now you've got a clean nandroid backup of the rom setup, and you can start playing with titanium backup and if you accidentally do something that causes problems, you can just wipe everything and restore that clean nandroid backup you made prior to Titanium.

Titanium Backup cannot restore my data! help!

I flash to KitKat factory image from CM10.2 (wiped everything including my internal memory), and then I flash to CM11 nightly and use titanium backup to restore only my app data. and here is where the problem comes in, none of my data is restoring from Titanium, although it says data restore completed in titanium, it actually isn't. Every apps force close when I open it after restoring. After that if I restart my phone, those app that i restored will be disappeared from my app drawer, it didn't appear in settings -> app either, if i try to install again it won't install, only way is to manually search for the apk file through file manager and delete it. I cant restore anything from titanium backup! FYI, I only backup the data of the app, not including the apk, but after restoring the app force close and restarting my phone the whole app gone missing from my app drawer. I can't lose all my data. what can I do? please help :crying::crying:
Another question, every time after u guys flash a new rom do u restore the old android ID or use new one in titanium backup?

Latest update of TB has caused some issues for many people. For me, on some roms, it fc's when I click an app to restore. Try googling for an apk of a previous version, and see if the problem persists. Regarding the id, you can keep the new one. Some functions might not work properly though, like location update. You can go into your settings for your Google account on a computer and withdraw access rights for apps and devices, then everything is fine. Hope this helps. Good luck!
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Titanium backup force closing and browser wiped data

Hi, I've got a weird problem. Titanium backup continues to force close over and over whenever I try to open it. This also happened on the same day that my browsers data was wiped and I lost my open tabs. I have a browser backup but can't restore with titanium backup. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks you.

DEVILOPS 007 said:
Hi, I've got a weird problem. Titanium backup continues to force close over and over whenever I try to open it. This also happened on the same day that my browsers data was wiped and I lost my open tabs. I have a browser backup but can't restore with titanium backup. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks you.
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Have you cleared all app data for TiBu? Uninstalled/reinstalled? Wiped dalvik and cache partitions?

v12xke said:
Have you cleared all app data for TiBu? Uninstalled/reinstalled? Wiped dalvik and cache partitions?
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Yes, done everything possible. I might try a different rom as the could be buggy. Thanks for the suggestion.

DEVILOPS 007 said:
Yes, done everything possible. I might try a different rom as the could be buggy. Thanks for the suggestion.
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You may want to pull your TiBu folder off to a PC just in case. Use a file manager to zip the entire TiBu folder and then move that one zip file to your PC just in case. That way when the fit hits the shan you can always restore apps later.

v12xke said:
You may want to pull your TiBu folder off to a PC just in case. Use a file manager to zip the entire TiBu folder and then move that one zip file to your PC just in case. That way when the fit hits the shan you can always restore apps later.
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I unfortunately didn't have a backup at the time but do have one from a couple of weeks ago. I'm probably going to switch from Chads pa builds to dirty unicorns. If you don't mind, what rom do you use? Thanks for the help, I'm definitely going to get this sorted tomorrow.?

They may not be super recent, but you can batch restore all your apps whenever you load the new ROM. I was just suggesting you safeguard your TiBu backup folder. You may also know you can schedule a backup to run on a schedule so you don't even have to think about it. I use a one week interval at 2:00am. I run stock 7.1.2 ROM, rooted with EX Kernel on my phone and LOS rooted and EX Kernel on my Nexus tablet.