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[Q] Market apps backed up by google.

Hey, just had a quick question. I am a crack flasher, I flash many ROMs..and I saw someone recommend a complete flash, not use titanium, and let google backup/restore their apps/data. How do I get thsi to work properly? I have done multiple full wipes, and it has only done it for me ONCE, where I logged into GMAIL and it downladed all my apps back automatically...I tried the "market doctor" feature in Titanium, that didn't help. Anyone?

It has to be a fresh install, and as far as I know, AOSP-based, such as CM. The first time you run the Market, it will download and install anything on your userid's list of installed (or, depending on your sync config, downloaded and later deleted). In the case of CM7 with gapps, which is where I've used it, the Market runs during first boot sequence, but you can cancel it to set up WiFi and/or restore apps from TB and run it later.

jggimi said:
It has to be a fresh install, and as far as I know, AOSP-based, such as CM. The first time you run the Market, it will download and install anything on your userid's list of installed (or, depending on your sync config, downloaded and later deleted). In the case of CM7 with gapps, which is where I've used it, the Market runs during first boot sequence, but you can cancel it to set up WiFi and/or restore apps from TB and run it later.
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Run what later? Market, or a some setup app? If its like a run on first boot, setup app, how do I run it later? And also, when you say clean you just mean, factory/data reset, wipe cache, wipe davlik, flash new rom? I saw something about reformatting in clockwork or something...?

Market. If you install CM7 and gapps, you will be prompted at the startup of Market to Cancel or run. If you cancel, just start Market later...
And by clean, I mean a "factory wipe/reset" -- and in some cases, reformatting /system. Yes.

jggimi said:
Market. If you install CM7 and gapps, you will be prompted at the startup of Market to Cancel or run. If you cancel, just start Market later...
And by clean, I mean a "factory wipe/reset" -- and in some cases, reformatting /system. Yes.
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Thanks... So I went into mounts and storage, should I also format cache and other things in there, or just format system?.. And should I do the format before or after I do a factory wipe?
Also... There isn't a way to turn this back up off so that it won't restore my apps?

You can damage your phone with indiscriminate formatting. It's best if you do some reading and research on your own so that you gain a basic understanding of how your device operates under the hood.
A factory reset formats /data and /cache, it does not do anything else.
YOU should take the time to find out for yourself what information is stored in each partition. Knowledge is safer than blindly following some instructions you find online somewhere, eh?
HTC Glacier running CM7 #31

Yea... I don't get it. I just fully wiped, reformatted system, and reflashed cm7 and gapps, and market doesn't restore nearly all my applications that I had previously installed...? Is there an option somewhere that isn't allowing some apps to be backed up, or restored or what?

This has worked for me with certain phones, but only that the apps were restored. The data for the apps were never restored for me, and I don't think it ever intended to.

To be clear, Google keeps a list of the Market apps you acquire. They don't actually back up any application data. That's yours, and is private. They may know you've aquired a Pr0n video player, but not your particular category favorites. Well, they will know from your Google search terms. But not from your application list, unless there are specific apps dedicated to your peccadilloes.
The FIRST time Market is run with an existing account, the list will be used to download those applications once more. That's all.

jggimi said:
To be clear, Google keeps a list of the Market apps you acquire. They don't actually back up any application data. That's yours, and is private. They may know you've aquired a Pr0n video player, but not your particular category favorites. Well, they will know from your Google search terms. But not from your application list, unless there are specific apps dedicated to your peccadilloes.
The FIRST time Market is run with an existing account, the list will be used to download those applications once more. That's all.
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google should make something like the itune, where you can backup apps, contacts, data and stuff in your computer in one place. this is the only thing i like about an iphone.

Titanium Backup fail

I did a backup yesterday with TB before wiping and flashing to a new rom. After the wipe and installation of new rom(LeoMar) I realised not all my apps were backed up. So... I'm dealing with the fact that I've lost quite a significant amount of data, but I still want to know why this happened. I clearly did a full backup of apps+data on TB Pro before the wipe. After the wipe, I see that all of my apps only had 1 backup, which was a very old one ( some were the latest backup though).
Anyone got the same thing happening before?
And btw, are cwm backups and TB backups related in any way?
Thanks.
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Where did you back your apps up, on the External_SD or on the phone memory itself, aslo, which batch operation did you run, what I do to ensure I have the latest backup, I delete everything and I create new backups for all my apps

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Where did you back your apps up, on the External_SD or on the phone memory itself, aslo, which batch operation did you run, what I do to ensure I have the latest backup, I delete everything and I create new backups for all my apps
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Phone memory, I do not have an external sd. (Unless the full wipe cleared the phone memory?) I ran the "backup all user apps and system data" batch operation.
Also, the weird thing is that it says that I have 287 backups, but the restore option says that I have only 228. The missing 59?
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darylimjz said:
I did a backup yesterday with TB before wiping and flashing to a new rom. After the wipe and installation of new rom(LeoMar) I realised not all my apps were backed up. So... I'm dealing with the fact that I've lost quite a significant amount of data, but I still want to know why this happened. I clearly did a full backup of apps+data on TB Pro before the wipe. After the wipe, I see that all of my apps only had 1 backup, which was a very old one ( some were the latest backup though).
Anyone got the same thing happening before?
And btw, are cwm backups and TB backups related in any way?
Thanks.
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dont keep an eye on the date that is under the app. it happend to me many times - while flashing Cognition - and it had outdated flash player - i knew i made a backup of the newer version but i coudltn find it. what i did was i simple clicked on it and made restore - even the date was incorrect it gave me the option off the new version- ignore the dates. i mean app that is included in your new rom will overwrite the date in showing in titanium - even you have made a newer there will be still old one so - the date wont be acurate. so try to click on it and restore - and let me know whats happend.
sorry for my broken english

Hunteres said:
dont keep an eye on the date that is under the app. it happend to me many times - while flashing Cognition - and it had outdated flash player - i knew i made a backup of the newer version but i coudltn find it. what i did was i simple clicked on it and made restore - even the date was incorrect it gave me the option off the new version- ignore the dates. i mean app that is included in your new rom will overwrite the date in showing in titanium - even you have made a newer there will be still old one so - the date wont be acurate. so try to click on it and restore - and let me know whats happend.
sorry for my broken english
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I see, thanks for the info. That solves a part of my problem, but the question of why there are missing apps still exist. It seems that I actually made the backup of my 287 apps (as verified by TB itself) but the "restore all apps+data" batch operation option says only 228. ('all apps+data' includes both apps that I already have after the wipe, and the ones I do not have yet)

darylimjz said:
I see, thanks for the info. That solves a part of my problem, but the question of why there are missing apps still exist. It seems that I actually made the backup of my 287 apps (as verified by TB itself) but the "restore all apps+data" batch operation option says only 228. ('all apps+data' includes both apps that I already have after the wipe, and the ones I do not have yet)
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Some of the rest may have been system apps, and you may not have Titanium configured to back up the app with the data for system apps?
Also, are you sure you don't have any filters set, either when backing up, or now when restoring?

almost very sure. I never touch the filter settings at all.

Rule one backup your backups as its easy to corrupt or delete a backup .
jje

JJEgan said:
Rule one backup your backups as its easy to corrupt or delete a backup .
jje
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Thanks for the tip. And how do you do that?
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I think I have a vague idea of the problem now. Looking at TB again, I realise that the apps which are backed up on 9-05 (5 September, yesterday) are only stock apps (like hubs, mini diary, etc) and stock system apps. Weird. And I'm suspecting that this might be due to me clearing my CWM backup files earlier (just after wipe. Cleared the older backups, leaving the latest one. Or at least I think it was the latest...)
And I'd also like to know what a full wipe deletes. (did the wipe from cwm recovery)
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darylimjz said:
Thanks for the tip. And how do you do that?
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Copy Titanium folder and Clockwork Recovery folder to PC .
jje

JJEgan said:
Copy Titanium folder and Clockwork Recovery folder to PC .
jje
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+1.
I do this once a week or so. It's a good habit to get into (just like making a back-up before flashing anything...).

I think the issue is when you back up "system data" when doing backups your should stick to backing up just the user apps and user data batch operation as it is not advisable to backup and restore system data....

Ah thanks... the jargon. Never realised I could just backup the user apps. And I'll also do that backup thing from now on. Thanks for the advice guys.
And to the tip earlier about the wrong dates, you're right. An app which I only downloaded a few days ago said it was backed up on 8-14, which was impossible. As for some other apps.
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[Q] Titanium backup fails to gain root access [SOLVED (kinda)]

What the title says really. It has been working fine since I installed ACA march 8th but 2 days ago, for no reason i can see, it stopped acquiring root access. It appears that SU is suddenly automatically denying the permissions but i have never told it to do such a thing for TB. All the other programs i have that require root (Root Explorer and Rom manager to name 2) are working fine.
I have tried, fixing permissions both in Rom manager and CWM more times than i can count, I've done reboots, power offs, soft resets, cleared the caches for both Superuser and TB, reinstalled both, upgraded and downgraded SU and obviously searched my ass off and i just can't get the damn thing to work again.
It's a little important that i get a good backup because the one i have is 2 days old and in the morning I'm going to be picking up my new Endeavour (One X for the uninitiated) and I'll need to transfer everything over.
I know there are a bunch of these threads about but i wouldn't start a new one unless it was really needed. So has anyone got any ideas?

M3PH said:
What the title says really. It has been working fine since I installed ACA march 8th but 2 days ago, for no reason i can see, it stopped acquiring root access. It appears that SU is suddenly automatically denying the permissions but i have never told it to do such a thing for TB. All the other programs i have that require root (Root Explorer and Rom manager to name 2) are working fine.
I have tried, fixing permissions both in Rom manager and CWM more times than i can count, I've done reboots, power offs, soft resets, cleared the caches for both Superuser and TB, reinstalled both, upgraded and downgraded SU and obviously searched my ass off and i just can't get the damn thing to work again.
It's a little important that i get a good backup because the one i have is 2 days old and in the morning I'm going to be picking up my new Endeavour (One X for the uninitiated) and I'll need to transfer everything over.
I know there are a bunch of these threads about but i wouldn't start a new one unless it was really needed. So has anyone got any ideas?
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Oh no, two days old?! whatever will you do? JK I've never come across an issue like this before, have you tried clearing all of the data for both apps and trying again? I'm very stumped as to how something like this would come about, especially if nothing actually solves it

Nigeldg said:
Oh no, two days old?! whatever will you do? JK I've never come across an issue like this before, have you tried clearing all of the data for both apps and trying again? I'm very stumped as to how something like this would come about, especially if nothing actually solves it
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Yeah i tried that. I even rebooted the phone once i had. SU just doesn't want to give the correct permissions.
I have my One X charging on my desk and my brother has agreed to pay me for my Leo so i need to get this sorted pretty quick coz i can't give him the HD2 if it still has my data on it. I will be honest though and say that i'm starting to think the best solution will be to restore the good backup i have from [now] 3 days ago and then work on the leo. If i have to lose the sms messages etc i have for the last few of days then so be it but i am going to blame the rom for the fault if i do.

M3PH said:
Yeah i tried that. I even rebooted the phone once i had. SU just doesn't want to give the correct permissions.
I have my One X charging on my desk and my brother has agreed to pay me for my Leo so i need to get this sorted pretty quick coz i can't give him the HD2 if it still has my data on it. I will be honest though and say that i'm starting to think the best solution will be to restore the good backup i have from [now] 3 days ago and then work on the leo. If i have to lose the sms messages etc i have for the last few of days then so be it but i am going to blame the rom for the fault if i do.
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Maybe it's something to do with ACA? Try this:
1. Backup everything in CWM
2. Flash a new ROM (not ACA)
3. Restore the data partition in CWM (through something like advanced restore, cba to boot into cwm to check it)
4. Load Titanium Backup and see if it works
5. (Assuming it works) backup your apps and enjoy.
Hopefully that might work. Also you don't need to worry about using a ROM with the same partition sizes as ACA, it won't matter (from what I've read, never actually tried it before).

Nigeldg said:
Maybe it's something to do with ACA? Try this:
1. Backup everything in CWM
2. Flash a new ROM (not ACA)
3. Restore the data partition in CWM (through something like advanced restore, cba to boot into cwm to check it)
4. Load Titanium Backup and see if it works
5. (Assuming it works) backup your apps and enjoy.
Hopefully that might work. Also you don't need to worry about using a ROM with the same partition sizes as ACA, it won't matter (from what I've read, never actually tried it before).
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Ok i will try it and report back. i'm in the middle of installing HTC sync for the One X, unlocking its bootloader and flashing a custom rom to it.
To be frank, i wouldn't have kept ACA on it to give anyway for the very simple reason it seems to be far buggier than most of the other CM7 roms out there for the Leo

Thanks to an odd series of events last night (i managed to lock myself out of my flat/apartment) i didn't get to looking into this further but the scheduled TB backup ran at 2AM as normal and it succeeded. Although when i open TB it still says unable to gain root access. So this gets wierder but atleast i have a current, good backup to put on my Endeavour and now i can flash the Leo with a new rom.
I won't say problem solved but i will say crisis averted.

M3PH said:
Thanks to an odd series of events last night (i managed to lock myself out of my flat/apartment) i didn't get to looking into this further but the scheduled TB backup ran at 2AM as normal and it succeeded. Although when i open TB it still says unable to gain root access. So this gets wierder but atleast i have a current, good backup to put on my Endeavour and now i can flash the Leo with a new rom.
I won't say problem solved but i will say crisis averted.
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Good to know, hopefully all the backups are good rather than corrupted. I don't know if it overwrites the old ones when it does a new backup, but if I were you I would have copied the old ones to my PC before the scheduled backup. That way, you have a fail-safe, but now if something went wrong you've effectively lost all of your app data.

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Good to know, hopefully all the backups are good rather than corrupted. I don't know if it overwrites the old ones when it does a new backup, but if I were you I would have copied the old ones to my PC before the scheduled backup. That way, you have a fail-safe, but now if something went wrong you've effectively lost all of your app data.
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Titainum backup overwrites or deletes older backups as per user preference. I personally only ever kept one. The backup itself is ok but it turns out the contacts and sms databases in GB are not compatible with ICS so i had to move most stuff the long way round anyway.
It's a good job i keep like 5 backups of my contacts in 5 different places. That would have been a pain otherwise.

Using Skyrocket here but I found this thread because my TiBu failed to get root access after flashing a new ROM.
Solution:
-Go to Settings, then Applications
-Find "Superuser"
-Press "Clear Data"
-Go back to Applications
-Find "Titanium Backup"
-Press "Clear Data"
Close all apps and windows and go to your home screen. Open Titanium Backup. It should then request root access. Allow it.
Worked for me!

Datron said:
Using Skyrocket here but I found this thread because my TiBu failed to get root access after flashing a new ROM.
Solution:
-Go to Settings, then Applications
-Find "Superuser"
-Press "Clear Data"
-Go back to Applications
-Find "Titanium Backup"
-Press "Clear Data"
Close all apps and windows and go to your home screen. Open Titanium Backup. It should then request root access. Allow it.
Worked for me!
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Thanks!
Had the same problem and this worked for me too.

I have this problem every time I restore my phone. All I do is uninstall it and reinstall it and it works just fine.
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Datron said:
Using Skyrocket here but I found this thread because my TiBu failed to get root access after flashing a new ROM.
Solution:
-Go to Settings, then Applications
-Find "Superuser"
-Press "Clear Data"
-Go back to Applications
-Find "Titanium Backup"
-Press "Clear Data"
Close all apps and windows and go to your home screen. Open Titanium Backup. It should then request root access. Allow it.
Worked for me!
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This worked like a charm!!! I was about to wipe everything and redo my ROM, thank god i didn't have to!

Datron said:
Using Skyrocket here but I found this thread because my TiBu failed to get root access after flashing a new ROM.
Solution:
-Go to Settings, then Applications
-Find "Superuser"
-Press "Clear Data"
-Go back to Applications
-Find "Titanium Backup"
-Press "Clear Data"
Close all apps and windows and go to your home screen. Open Titanium Backup. It should then request root access. Allow it.
Worked for me!
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Heh, I know this is an old thread, and even not my phones thread, but I just needed to say that this solution worked for me after the latest update for TB (8-21-12)....a quick google search pulled this up. Thanks!:highfive:

Datron said:
Using Skyrocket here but I found this thread because my TiBu failed to get root access after flashing a new ROM.
Solution:
-Go to Settings, then Applications
-Find "Superuser"
-Press "Clear Data"
-Go back to Applications
-Find "Titanium Backup"
-Press "Clear Data"
Close all apps and windows and go to your home screen. Open Titanium Backup. It should then request root access. Allow it.
Worked for me!
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Got the same problem after 4.1.2 OTA with Galaxy Nexus. Can't resolve following the steps.

I just RESET and rooted my Infuse, added Titanium Backup, and it fails to gain access. Everyone who has this issue seems to have done some ROM install or some other thing. I can't find any report of someone just installing fresh and having this problem. Also seeing mention of hitting the problem button and getting something...I get nothing but a troubleshooting page that tells me to go read a wiki... Then I see people talking about accidentally disallowing titanium in Superuser, What does that mean? There is no Titanium in Superuser.
I just tried the above quoted solution, that did nothing as well.
Nothing on this thread makes Titanium work for me.

robs80 said:
Thanks!
Had the same problem and this worked for me too.
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Guys, you're wonderful. It just worked for me too, just a minute before I decided to kill myself. Thnx:good:

Took me a long time to try everything specified here. Nothing's worked for me. It happened after I have installed Lollipop ROM on my rooted TMO S5. Finally I have uninstalled the TB Pro 6.1 I had before, and installed a non-Pro version from the Play. Now all works!
So probably the Pro has "incompatibility" with the Lollipop.

The thread is a bit old, but I just wanted to give one more tip if somebody else has similar issues. I encountered after one of the recent TB updates the same issue. I open TB and it does ask for root privileges, but for some reason never obtains them. Tried every possible proposal out there and in the end the only thing that actualy worked for me (although this is a bit of an unsecure setting) is to change the "Default access" setting in SuperSU to "Grant" instead of "Prompt". This is actualy telling the SU to grant acess to every app requesting it w/o prompting the user.

I was having the exact same issue on Titanium Backup 7.2.4 with SuperSu on the Samsung Galaxy SIII (AT&T SGH-I747). I looked at the access logs and discovered that Titanium Backup was getting an error when attempting to load busybox (not su), in spite of what the error says. I installed busybox, and the problem was resolved.
Edit:
1) My signature is really out of date.
2) Problem probably could have also been resolved in the TB preferences -> Troubleshooting by turning off "Force use System Busybox"

chriv said:
2) Problem probably could have also been resolved in the TB preferences -> Troubleshooting by turning off "Force use System Busybox"
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That IS THE solution
Confirmed

new SD Card and no more apps

Hi to all,
I copied verythink from the old SD to the new one. Now all my Apps are missing. And even when I insert the old one they are not there. And yes I rebooted the phone, more than once.
I also tried Elelinux-7.2-Hero-v3.9 but it's not booting with this. So I reinstalled Elelinux-2.1-Hero-update1-Reloaded, but no change.
On the new one I don't even have the Market app anymore.
Can anybody tell me what I can do now?
Thanks,
David

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David_DM said:
Hi to all,
I copied verythink from the old SD to the new one. Now all my Apps are missing. And even when I insert the old one they are not there. And yes I rebooted the phone, more than once.
I also tried Elelinux-7.2-Hero-v3.9 but it's not booting with this. So I reinstalled Elelinux-2.1-Hero-update1-Reloaded, but no change.
On the new one I don't even have the Market app anymore.
Can anybody tell me what I can do now?
Thanks,
David
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Hi,
When you flashed the new ROM, did you wiped data and cache?
If so, all applications installed are removed. Even if they are installed on sd card.
To avoid this, a prior backup is necessary. Look on Titanium Backup.
M

m--m said:
Hi,
When you flashed the new ROM, did you wiped data and cache?
If so, all applications installed are removed. Even if they are installed on sd card.
To avoid this, a prior backup is necessary. Look on Titanium Backup.
M
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Yes, I tried a bid more last night (germany ) and I did a backup with Titanium and MyPhoneExplorer and than I wiped all data and got the Elelinux-7.2-Hero-v3.9 running now.
by the way, I installed all the apps on the phone.
I am still interested in an answer, why all apps where lost by a simple SD-Card switch?
Thanks David

Hi,
like I said I have Elelinux-7.2-Hero-v3.9 running.
I get some lacks, like with the music player the music stops sometimes or sounds funny. And the change from one home screen to an other is also very slow.
I have been going some reading, and now wonder if I can give this ROM a swap partition. And how can I do that.
You can see that I am an noobe to xda and custom roms for android.
I have some general questions.
What is the difference between the Light and the normal version?
Is there a tut for flasing/installing roms?
Thanks David

I think you did something wrong because that ROM was working perfectly for me. Make sure you don't reset to factory settings, but also wipe the cache AND dalvik cache (you can find it under advanced in the recovery menu). Then you can install your zip file and reboot. Normally you won't get in a boot loop now.
Good luck
About the light and normal version, the normal version has some apps integrated (Facebook, Twitter and a few more). I prefer the light version because I don't use those apps very often.

@GXGOW:
Thanks I will try the light version then. I don't need those as well.
You misunderstood me there I have no boot loops. The phone is just a bit slow. I have to wait a while (20 Seconds) for the home screen when I come from the apps. And scrolling also wants to be pleased. Whats why I asked for the swap partition on the sd-card. I read about it here, that there are ROMs which support that. So I was wondering if this one as well.
Thanks anyways
David

Used titanium backup to remove a piece of att bloatware. Need Help!

So i used titanium backup to remove a piece of att bloatware it was called Att App Picker or something to that effect. now every few minutes the message com.dti.att has stopped working pops up. Is there anything i can do in Titanium backup to either reinstall this program (it is the only one that I have removed) or otherwise prevent this annoying message from continually popping up.

Sorry, I can't help you. But for future reference, you may consider using TIBU to Freeze unwanted apps, at least long enough to be sure there's no problem when removed. Then if there is, you can Thaw it.

You need to search your file system for the other half of the app.
Look under /data/app
Look under /data/data
Look under system/app
Look under system/priv-app
Find any instances of the app you wanted gone and remove it and reboot. You can also try twrp and clear your cache and dalvik cache.
Furthermore.. Just go and reflash the rom over your existing build to bring it back and stop the FC

mmarsie said:
So i used titanium backup to remove a piece of att bloatware it was called Att App Picker or something to that effect. now every few minutes the message com.dti.att has stopped working pops up. Is there anything i can do in Titanium backup to either reinstall this program (it is the only one that I have removed) or otherwise prevent this annoying message from continually popping up.
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Go to Titanium Backup menu, hit clean up Dalvik cache. Reboot.
If that did not help, go into twrp and clean dalvik cache and cache.
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Ended up doing exactly that and re-flashing, When I have a little more time with the device I'll go through and do a full purge of the ATT bloat.
Team DevDigitel said:
You need to search your file system for the other half of the app.
Look under /data/app
Look under /data/data
Look under system/app
Look under system/priv-app
Find any instances of the app you wanted gone and remove it and reboot. You can also try twrp and clear your cache and dalvik cache.
Furthermore.. Just go and reflash the rom over your existing build to bring it back and stop the FC
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