Hey, just had a quick question. I am a crack flasher, I flash many ROMs..and I saw someone recommend a complete flash, not use titanium, and let google backup/restore their apps/data. How do I get thsi to work properly? I have done multiple full wipes, and it has only done it for me ONCE, where I logged into GMAIL and it downladed all my apps back automatically...I tried the "market doctor" feature in Titanium, that didn't help. Anyone?
It has to be a fresh install, and as far as I know, AOSP-based, such as CM. The first time you run the Market, it will download and install anything on your userid's list of installed (or, depending on your sync config, downloaded and later deleted). In the case of CM7 with gapps, which is where I've used it, the Market runs during first boot sequence, but you can cancel it to set up WiFi and/or restore apps from TB and run it later.
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It has to be a fresh install, and as far as I know, AOSP-based, such as CM. The first time you run the Market, it will download and install anything on your userid's list of installed (or, depending on your sync config, downloaded and later deleted). In the case of CM7 with gapps, which is where I've used it, the Market runs during first boot sequence, but you can cancel it to set up WiFi and/or restore apps from TB and run it later.
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Run what later? Market, or a some setup app? If its like a run on first boot, setup app, how do I run it later? And also, when you say clean you just mean, factory/data reset, wipe cache, wipe davlik, flash new rom? I saw something about reformatting in clockwork or something...?
Market. If you install CM7 and gapps, you will be prompted at the startup of Market to Cancel or run. If you cancel, just start Market later...
And by clean, I mean a "factory wipe/reset" -- and in some cases, reformatting /system. Yes.
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Market. If you install CM7 and gapps, you will be prompted at the startup of Market to Cancel or run. If you cancel, just start Market later...
And by clean, I mean a "factory wipe/reset" -- and in some cases, reformatting /system. Yes.
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Thanks... So I went into mounts and storage, should I also format cache and other things in there, or just format system?.. And should I do the format before or after I do a factory wipe?
Also... There isn't a way to turn this back up off so that it won't restore my apps?
You can damage your phone with indiscriminate formatting. It's best if you do some reading and research on your own so that you gain a basic understanding of how your device operates under the hood.
A factory reset formats /data and /cache, it does not do anything else.
YOU should take the time to find out for yourself what information is stored in each partition. Knowledge is safer than blindly following some instructions you find online somewhere, eh?
HTC Glacier running CM7 #31
Yea... I don't get it. I just fully wiped, reformatted system, and reflashed cm7 and gapps, and market doesn't restore nearly all my applications that I had previously installed...? Is there an option somewhere that isn't allowing some apps to be backed up, or restored or what?
This has worked for me with certain phones, but only that the apps were restored. The data for the apps were never restored for me, and I don't think it ever intended to.
To be clear, Google keeps a list of the Market apps you acquire. They don't actually back up any application data. That's yours, and is private. They may know you've aquired a Pr0n video player, but not your particular category favorites. Well, they will know from your Google search terms. But not from your application list, unless there are specific apps dedicated to your peccadilloes.
The FIRST time Market is run with an existing account, the list will be used to download those applications once more. That's all.
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To be clear, Google keeps a list of the Market apps you acquire. They don't actually back up any application data. That's yours, and is private. They may know you've aquired a Pr0n video player, but not your particular category favorites. Well, they will know from your Google search terms. But not from your application list, unless there are specific apps dedicated to your peccadilloes.
The FIRST time Market is run with an existing account, the list will be used to download those applications once more. That's all.
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google should make something like the itune, where you can backup apps, contacts, data and stuff in your computer in one place. this is the only thing i like about an iphone.
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I've finally decided to make the dive and root my N1, and I am fully aware that it is going to wipe my device. But I've had it since launch and installed a good amount of apps and games and was wondering if there was a way to backup my apps and/or be able to restore them after the root process. I'm mostly concerned with certain games that I've been playing on it and having to start over once it gets wiped. Is there any way to go about doing that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617235&highlight=backup
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I've finally decided to make the dive and root my N1, and I am fully aware that it is going to wipe my device. But I've had it since launch and installed a good amount of apps and games and was wondering if there was a way to backup my apps and/or be able to restore them after the root process. I'm mostly concerned with certain games that I've been playing on it and having to start over once it gets wiped. Is there any way to go about doing that?
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When I rooted mines this morning, it turns out apps are backed up then reinstalled after inputting your account info.
But just incase...download Astro File Manager, backup apps onto the SD Card, then if the apps don't reinstall like it did on mines, go download the Astro, then reinstall your apps. Just that simple.
Sorry for my noobish ways, but i just purchased my first Android device (Nexus One ) so i really know nothing.
When i wipe my phone, what gets deleted? will my contacts, songs and photos get deleted or only apps?
Contacts are synced wit your Google account. (If you allowed it)
that will be downloaded after you logon after wiping it.
Apps and settings can be synced with your Google account also.
I've lost the text messages and call log after wiping the phone. Apps were redownloaded and reinstalled
you can use wavesecure to backup your sms's and call logs. for free, If you signed up fo to their android beta in time. not sure what their current account offerings are. works well.
Yesterday, I installed my first NAND build on my hd2 (Pongster's Hyperdroid GBX). It's a great build, really, but when I wanted to add a few goodies to it (like a T9 dialer), the online market spat this at me:
"There are no Android phones associated with this account. Please sign in with a different account."
That never happened with any of the SD builds that I used previously.
I tried googling for a solution, I tried the suggested method of removing my phone number from google's password recovery service. No change.
The market works fine on my phone. Apps download and install with no problems (well, perhaps the download speeds aren't as fast as they could be on my wi-fi, but that's all). Gmail and contacts sync with no problem.
I tried clearing the market cache. Didn't work.
The only differences between this install are 1) This being Gingerbread, others being Froyo 2) NAND, others were SD 3) I used MyBackup Root instead of Titanium Backup
Any ideas?
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Yesterday, I installed my first NAND build on my hd2 (Pongster's Hyperdroid GBX). It's a great build, really, but when I wanted to add a few goodies to it (like a T9 dialer), the online market spat this at me:
"There are no Android phones associated with this account. Please sign in with a different account."
That never happened with any of the SD builds that I used previously.
I tried googling for a solution, I tried the suggested method of removing my phone number from google's password recovery service. No change.
The market works fine on my phone. Apps download and install with no problems (well, perhaps the download speeds aren't as fast as they could be on my wi-fi, but that's all). Gmail and contacts sync with no problem.
I tried clearing the market cache. Didn't work.
The only differences between this install are 1) This being Gingerbread, others being Froyo 2) NAND, others were SD 3) I used MyBackup Root instead of Titanium Backup
Any ideas?
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when you used mybackup , did you make your backup apks and data? I have always encounter issues using data in my backup when moving to a different rom. I would suggest doing a new backup just with the apks, no data, backup your sms, and do a full wipe from task 29 and start fresh. I did this and got rid of 99% of my issues.
I suppose I'll try that...
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I suppose I'll try that...
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well you don't have to try it if you don't want ! you didn't answer my question, did you backup data with mybackup?
Oh, sorry. Yes, I backed up APKs and data.
Well, I'll give it a shot. Strangely enough, a NAND install is easier than an SD one
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Oh, sorry. Yes, I backed up APKs and data.
Well, I'll give it a shot. Strangely enough, a NAND install is easier than an SD one
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it is, and even though I used to love having the choice of booting in to different sd builds(I used to keep like 3 or 4 in my sd at a time) I haven't looked back after I went nand. But trust me, task 29, install MGLDR, CWM, and flash fresh , just install apks and you should see the difference in apps and phone responding better.
And that did the trick. Google somehow sniffed out that I have a new ROM even before I set up my own account on the phone (something to do with SIM information or IMEI?).
Thanks for all your help roloracer.
I bought a Desire Z about two weeks before the 1.72.405.2 OTA update came along, and I allowed it to update (Yeah I know, this was after all my first Android device).
Anyway, lately my phones been running slowly and apps force closing, so I've decided to downgrade it and root it (psneuter method), and try some different ROM's.
What I was wondering is, what would be the best way without root, to backup as much of my data as possible, apps, sms, files, and also if possible a backup that I can use in case I scew it up, so I can get it back to the way it is now.
I have a copy of:-
RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.5_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155556_signed
which I believe is the stock ROM for this device, but as far as I know if it goes wrong I'll be unable to flash this as the update won't allow me to flash an earlier version..
Would I be able to mount and then backup the whole phone using adb or any other method.
I've been reading about it for a while now, and while I have lots of bits of information, I've been unable to find a good solution.
Thanks,
...John...
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I bought a Desire Z about two weeks before the 1.72.405.2 OTA update came along, and I allowed it to update (Yeah I know, this was after all my first Android device).
What I was wondering is, what would be the best way without root, to backup as much of my data as possible, apps, sms, files, and also if possible a backup that I can use in case I scew it up, so I can get it back to the way it is now.
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Without root, a good app to backup your other apps is astro file manager, its available free from the market, you just have to hit menu, tools and it'll back up all the apps on your sd card, in terms of files, just make sure their all on your sd card and they'll be fine
Not sure how to back up SmS but i know their are apps out their, a point you may have forgotten is to make sure you back up your contacts as they all get wiped and I made this mistake, the easiest way to do that is to make sure your contacts sync up with your google account so after rooting, you can just sync them back,
Hope i helped!
Use google to remember what apps you've downloaded from market. Once associated, when you flash a new rom, google will automatically redownload all your associated apps. For sms, i suggest you download GoSMS and use their internal backup feature. It will save to sd and be visible to your stock sms app as well on restore.
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Ya but too many times google starts restoring apps that I uninstalled months ago. Great idea but bad implementation imo.
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Sorry I haven't replied, was in work all day yesterday.
I have Astro File Manager, but I hadn't even considered it, thanks. I have my contacts sync'd with Google, so it seems that as long as I backup my files and sms everything else should be done automatically anyway.
Go SMS seems worth getting anyway, as the bog standard Android messages app is seriously dull. I'll give it a try.
I had wondered about Google Market restoring apps, but I thought it would only reinstall apps that were installed at the last sync.
If you install an app and it screws up your phone, and do a factory reset then Google will just reinstall the app that caused all the problems in the first place.
Definitely a good idea, but needs more work.
Anyway, thanks for all the info, I'll give it try tonight, when I get back from work.
...John...
I find SMS Backup & Restore to be the best app for this purpose and I wouldn't recommend the backup feature from the market, as you said it is likely to give problems.
Without root though, the backup choices are somewhat limited for apps and such.
I've been using Super Manager by gpc. It works pretty good, plus offers a ton of other features that can be used with or without root.
I've backed up what I could, although it's typical that as soon as it's all gone I realised things that I should have wrote down (I had been using the wallet/pocket app and although I backed up all my apps, I'm guesing it won't have backed up any of the passwords, logins, bank details, etc).
Anyway, I've downgraded and successfully rooted my phone (through gfree), I have CID: 11111111 and S-Off, but I haven't installed and ROM's yet as I read somewhere that you are supposed to wipe everything between ROM's, am I wiping the Davlik cache or doing a factory reset (I mean won't the factory reset just reset my stock ROM back to it's original condition).
I'm also wondering about finding custom ROMs, on my dell streak I had installed ROM Manager and could get a list of any that were available.
I first installed ROM Manager and used it to flash recovery, but this time I've installed CWM first, so would it be safe to install ROM Manager now, will it want to flash a recovery over the one I have already.
Or is it not advisable to use ROM Manager, as I have previously heard of a few problems it may cause.
Thanks ...John...
Rom manager shouldn't give any problems, but for custom roms it's best to take a look at the development forum. If you don't like that you can still use the list in rommanager, it might be just me who prefers downloading roms to my pc first.
But before you install any of them I recommend you make a nandroid backup from recovery just to be safe.
I think the issues were that some people, not all, found problems flashing some of the gingerbread roms via Rom manager. Better to save the Rom to SD and then flash it via CWM.
Right I've done a nandroid backup, and I've saved one to another mSD card which I can keep somewhere just in case (probably a bit over cautious, but...).
I thought that by saving apps to an sd card, they would run from the sd when I restarted my phone, even the ones that I had moved previously with the application manager in settings are not seen.
Still reinstalling the ones I want isn't really that bad.
Seriously, somebody needs to sort out the Markets app backups feature, when I was setting up the phone at first, I specifically chose to not automatically sync with Google and that I would do it manually when needed. Then I went in to the market to get a file manager and the download failed, it was only when I looked at what was going on I realised it was already downloading and reinstalling 96 apps. I looked around for a 'cancel all' option and there isn't any, so I had to cancel them all one by one and then uninstall the ones that had managed to install.
A simple checklist to select the apps you want would be great, oh, and a cancel all button would be a bonus.
Anyway, things are not as much fun when they're too easy.
Thanks ...John...
Some roms require a full wipe/factory reset before installing. Of course that will delete all apps including the one that I bought. Do I need to buy them again?
Also, will the 'titanium backup' backups the homescreen settings (i.e., the app shortcuts created on main screen)?
Your apps are attached to your gmail account, as long as you sign in on your device with the same account after flashing/wiping, you can redownload the paid apps.
Titanium backup by default will not backup homescreen settings, but if you manually backup the launcher and its data then it can restore the settings.
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Yeap once you buy your apps, they're yours for good. You can sign in a whole different device and your apps in the play store still belong to you, you just open the playstore and click on the lil arrow thing up at the top for the "My Apps" page. It will open to your installed apps and if you swipe to view the page to the right it shows all apps, which includes any app you previously downloaded but isn't installed.
And also when you wipe data and install a new rom, It will have you sign into your google account in the setup process right after the wifi connection screen. Once setup is complete and you're all booted up, if you just leave the tablet alone and let it settle a few minutes, it's going to automatically install all the apps you had installed on your last rom from the play store, unless you've changed the default backup/restore settings.
Make sure with titanium backup, you NEVER install system apps, which are the red ones. You can set the filter to User apps only before backing up your apps. Then you'll load the rom and complete the setup and let it settle while it installs all the apps it's going to from the play store. Then you can just batch restore any missing apps. I would batch restore the apps only, and then go back and restore only the app data that you actually need. For instance you may want to restore a game with a thousand levels of progress, but don't restore app data just to keep from typing a username and password into an app one time which takes about four seconds.
I help a lot of new guys get started wiping, installing roms, and setting up and try to teach them along the way. I let them learn instead of doing it for them. Here's what I've found to be the best way to learn.
Make a nandroid backup of current setup. Then wipe data, cache, dalvic cache, and system, install the rom and gapps, and reboot and setup. Once it's setup let it settle in and sync and all that good stuff. You want the boxes asking if you want to back up the tablet and restore to the tablet in the setup process both checked.
After you've booted, set up, and let all the apps install that it's going to install, then reboot into recovery and make another nandroid backup, if using TWRP you can name it like "ExampleRom_B4Titanium." Now you've got a clean nandroid backup of the rom setup, and you can start playing with titanium backup and if you accidentally do something that causes problems, you can just wipe everything and restore that clean nandroid backup you made prior to Titanium.
Why isn't the play store restoring my apps? I've signed into gmail on the intial set up. When I open up the play store, there are no apps listed. It takes a min or 2 before only 6 or so apps show up under the install tab. When I move over to the all tab, I can see the apps that I've installed previously. I've used 4.3 ROMs on my Rezound, and all my apps download without any intervention on my part.
Anyone have any suggestions? I've installed Carbom, AICP, and Validus all with the same results with this phone.
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Why isn't the play store restoring my apps? I've signed into gmail on the intial set up. When I open up the play store, there are no apps listed. It takes a min or 2 before only 6 or so apps show up under the install tab. When I move over to the all tab, I can see the apps that I've installed previously. I've used 4.3 ROMs on my Rezound, and all my apps download without any intervention on my part.
Anyone have any suggestions? I've installed Carbom, AICP, and Validus all with the same results with this phone.
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Isn't there a checkbox when you first boot a new ROM that asks if you want the phone to automatically backup and restore your apps? Maybe this sin't being checked somehow. In any case, and I'm guessing here, go to Settings> Backup and reset> see if the Automatic Restore button is checked. If not, then maybe checking it and rebooting would get everything re-installed.
And there is always Titanium Backup (Restore) as well.
Good luck!
Also LG's built in back up/restore is very good. Almost like titanium back up. Restores app data and is completely automated.
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Isn't there a checkbox when you first boot a new ROM that asks if you want the phone to automatically backup and restore your apps? Maybe this sin't being checked somehow. In any case, and I'm guessing here, go to Settings> Backup and reset> see if the Automatic Restore button is checked. If not, then maybe checking it and rebooting would get everything re-installed.
And there is always Titanium Backup (Restore) as well.
Good luck!
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I know the setting box you're talking. I've noticed before that there were two boxes to check, but on the g2 I've only seen one to back up my account.
I followed your instructions and that option wasn't enabled. But since I've already installed my apps, nothing is installing. I'll have to see if that fixed the issue, but I don't think it will since I do a clean wipe when switching ROMs.