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Will you think about switching to the HTC 10?

Those of you who have the S7E are you going to check out and think about switching to the HTC 10?
I only ask because I am honestly thinking about it after seeing it today. I like the looks and the specs look good.
What do you like and dislike about the HTC 10 and how do you think it compares to the S7E?

I was HTC boy since QTEK times till 1 week ago when I went for s7e htc still the same design as M7 from 2013 I think HTC 10 is ugly and only 5.2" display
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Design wise it definitely is not winning any awards. But its not as ugly as the g5. Im not switching from the S7EDGE. This a much better phone, the htc 10 is a generic phone, it really has no character, it it really doesnt stand for anything, its a bunch of hardware put together in desperation for sales. The S7EDGE though is a almost a fashion statement, i almost feel special when i take it out of my pocket

Main reason I get Samsung phones over others are screen and camera. Camera may be on par on paper. But the Amoled is still best in the business. Until someone can make a better screen, I'll probably staying where I am.
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No intention of switching but I'll try the phone.
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Yea, I do wish it had a slightly larger display but I actually like the looks of it. Don't get me wrong. I love the looks of the S7E but it's just something about the HTC 10 and it's simple design.
I am looking forward to see how it's screen reacts to touch. Supposedly it will have the lowest response time of any mobile touchscreen on the market including the iPhone. That's about the only thing I miss from the iPhone is it's touch response time.
I'm also looking forward to hearing it's speakers. I like how they kept the front facing speaker for the highs and then separated the lows with the bottom facing speaker. I've also heard if you like listening to music through headphones then it will most likely be the best sounding phone yet.
If i didn't have one more T-Mobile Jump until June I wouldn't even be thinking about it but I'll check it out. Worst comes to worst, if I get it and don't like it, I can always Jump to the Note 6 and then the next Nexus.

jrwingate6 said:
Those of you who have the S7E are you going to check out and think about switching to the HTC 10?
I only ask because I am honestly thinking about it after seeing it today. I like the looks and the specs look good.
What do you like and dislike about the HTC 10 and how do you think it compares to the S7E?
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nothing special on HTC 10 for switching to it !!!
at best point its camera is same
But only design of S7E is more special than anything else!
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jrwingate6 said:
Yea, I do wish it had a slightly larger display but I actually like the looks of it. Don't get me wrong. I love the looks of the S7E but it's just something about the HTC 10 and it's simple design.
I am looking forward to see how it's screen reacts to touch. Supposedly it will have the lowest response time of any mobile touchscreen on the market including the iPhone. That's about the only thing I miss from the iPhone is it's touch response time.
I'm also looking forward to hearing it's speakers. I like how they kept the front facing speaker for the highs and then separated the lows with the bottom facing speaker. I've also heard if you like listening to music through headphones then it will most likely be the best sounding phone yet.
If i didn't have one more T-Mobile Jump until June I wouldn't even be thinking about it but I'll check it out. Worst comes to worst, if I get it and don't like it, I can always Jump to the Note 6 and then the next Nexus.
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They all lay claims but usually HTC are good with audio so with that it will be great I'm sure...
Having an over sensitive screen isn't all good, The M8 was very sensitive and can be an annoyance (or it was for me).
It's not all Gloom and like most here I appreciate all tech and companies that really cater to as many requirements as possible....let's not forget it's the M7 and yes iPhone that pushed for other OEM's to up their game on build & design.....
What we have now is a point where it difficult to choose or getting more difficult to choose......unless the OEM is consistent....
HTC lost that with the M9 not saying that was bad (I really liked it bar the Camera wasn't particularly great).
HTC 10 yes it has all the bells and whistles in regards to specs and design is hmmmmmmm it just doesn't inspire me.....huge Shamfers is the angle that they hope people will be drawn to (design wise) we all look at the overall package though (don't we? ) the M10 will suit a few but I'm afraid the Edge is Samsungs lol
While the 10 sounds good in what's on offer......and I'm sure it will be a very decent device.....I'm not sure this will be the device that will boost HTC.....think they should have opted for the happy Medium of a 5.5" display .....we shall see how some real world reviews come out once released and hope it's good for HTC....
But I'm. More than happy with the S7 Edge hmm and then some

The HTC 10 definitely looks like a top contender, solid design, interesting speakers, Apple airplay! apparently a camera maybe on par with s7e, good battery; even though it's 3000 I think HTC is good at optimizing, so I think it will be as good as s7e, let's not forget to mention unlockable bootloader, BUT when I found out it was still LCD I went ahead and bought the s7e , my last amoled was s5 and I've missed it since, I know the colors aren't as natural but no one can deny how pleasant it is to look at. I love my s7e and I don't like Samsung haha

The only phone that will make me want to switch is the note6 well hopefully the specs are up to the standards. / Loved my note3

Nah, I'll stick with the Edge. The 10 looks fine, apart from the fact that they failed to center that home-button! Why couldn't they have moved it up a millimeter?

I've loved HTC phones for years (even the M9!), and thought the 10 would be my Snapdragon 820 phone that I would go with. But while the 10 looks like it can compete with any flagship phone, for me, it's "too little, too late". It simply wouldn't be an upgrade moving from the S7 Edge (but I do wish Samsung had retained the IR blaster!).
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You'll miss the screen of you switch!
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The things about the HTC that are making me consider it over the S7:
Unlocked bootloader (still don't know if we'll ever see the USA S7 unlocked)
Hardware buttons that are almost identical to Samsung's (a big reason I've stuck with Samsung for years)
Possibly 64GB built-in
Camera might give Samsung a run for their money
Sound quality via speakers & headphones
Apparently USB 3.1 via USB-C
Otherwise, the S7/Edge have AMOLED screen, a known great camera, wireless charging, IP68 protection. Now, if the S7 gets full root, I think the S7 is the winner, but that remains to be seen. Glad to see there's a rootable 2016 flagship that will get root if the S7 doesn't. C'mon, Samsung!

Nope. Screen and water resistance.
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HTC 10 looks more like an alternative to the S7 than the Edge. Compared to the Edge, no wireless charging, LCD vs. AMOLED, and a smaller battery and screen are the biggest negatives. No fragile glass back and a front mounted speaker the biggest positives in terms of hardware. I also really like some of Samsung's software mods.
The htc 10 seems to be the best htc phone in many years, and is a legitimate competitor this time around. If the promise is upheld, I'd choose it over the G5. I'd consider it if I were looking at the S7, but probably not over the Edge with its larger screen, battery and Edge functions.

i'm a htc user since 2010. recently switched to s7 edge because of the design of the body, screen, camera, battery and other powerful specs. What I can is that HTC has still the best UI for android phones. Especially now that they minimized the duplicate apps and decided to use the google apps instead. The way HTC handles the settings, app drawer, etc is still far better than the samsung.
I think this is where samsung should made a decision to reduce the bloatware they have for many years now. Sound wise, i'm tempted to hear their new boomsound without the 2 front facing speaker. that feature looks awesome where they place a tweeter at the top speaker and a separated bass speaker at the bottom. Body design wise, i don't think htc change a lot from M7/M8/M9 atleast at the back. the front seems different. it's like a hybrid of A9 and M9. but looks very wide at the pictures. unlike the s7 edge, it looks very slim.
To answer the question, i'm not switching to HTC 10. I like the s7 edge. I just don't like the duplicate apps and some settings I miss with HTC like hiding apps on the app drawer, always alphabetize the app drawer, some default widgets, notification quick setting presets, etc. But since there are some apps and tweaks to make it better, i can live with third party apps to do this annoying things.

Oh man I miss my note 3, it was the greatest, I plan on getting the note 6 but the s7 edge for now is top drawer, had a htc one m9 and apart from warming me up in the winter it wasn't overly great. I'll be staying away from htc until they catch up in screen tech and on design.

As others have said already the only thing that I will consider switching to is the Note 6. The HTC 10 looks like a great phone but besides the speakers it has nothing better to offer. To me it looks like a Samsung knock off.

Nope, the HTC 10 has nothing compelling over my GS7E. Heck, I would choose my old GS6E over the HTC 10. I would choose it, though, over the LG G5.
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Do you recommend the V20?

In the market for a new phone. Should i just wait or buy the V20?
I've heard LG's phones suffer from bootloops and also the V20 has a speaker issue.
Im tempted to wait for the S8

Majorcrafter said:
In the market for a new phone. Should i just wait or buy the V20?
I've heard LG's phones suffer from bootloops and also the V20 has a speaker issue.
Im tempted to wait for the S8
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Not sure what bootloops you are referring to on this thing but mine hasn't done anything. Coming from the Note 4, I really like this thing. It gets much better cell reception in tough places than my Note did.
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I do.
Coming from a Nexus 5 (2013 model). This phone is a beast. Granted it wont develop bootloop, camera glass cracking, or speakerphone issues in the future. Everything works fine, and I am very happy with it. I have the T-Mobile version (non rooted, yet)

Majorcrafter said:
In the market for a new phone. Should i just wait or buy the V20?
I've heard LG's phones suffer from bootloops and also the V20 has a speaker issue.
Im tempted to wait for the S8
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If you have a Note 4 right now, this'll be a good replacement. I came from a Note 4 and I'm really enjoying my experience with the V20 so far.
I have had a few issues, mainly with software. On my original unit (I'm on T-Mobile), the camera was a bit funky (severe lens flare in some situations and heavy noise reduction). On my new one, the second screen was all wonky with brightness for a few days, before magically fixing itself.
Aside from that though, it's a great phone. Battery life, even with a slightly smaller battery and IPS screen, is much better than my Note's. Second screen is gimicky and fun, but it's also actually useful. Since it has IR and a removable battery, it was really the only way to go for me. No water resistance, but I've never had a problem with that before.
The G4, V10 and Nexus 5X all have bootloader issues, but they all share the Snapdragon 810 and the same faulty connection, so I doubt it's going to be an issue on here.
I don't remember seeing any speaker issues aside from the people who blew their earpiece speakers out with a stereo sound mod. I certainly haven't had any problems.
Get the phone and try it out. Most places have return periods that you can use if you end up not liking it. Contrary to what a lot of previous Note 7 owners have said, I don't think this phone is overpriced. I got it for $80 less than the Note 7 cost, and it has more features than that phone. (From my completely subjective and secondhand experience with the Note 7, I think this phone also performs faster.)

Zacharee1 said:
If you have a Note 4 right now, this'll be a good replacement. I came from a Note 4 and I'm really enjoying my experience with the V20 so far.
I have had a few issues, mainly with software. On my original unit (I'm on T-Mobile), the camera was a bit funky (severe lens flare in some situations and heavy noise reduction). On my new one, the second screen was all wonky with brightness for a few days, before magically fixing itself.
Aside from that though, it's a great phone. Battery life, even with a slightly smaller battery and IPS screen, is much better than my Note's. Second screen is gimicky and fun, but it's also actually useful. Since it has IR and a removable battery, it was really the only way to go for me. No water resistance, but I've never had a problem with that before.
The G4, V10 and Nexus 5X all have bootloader issues, but they all share the Snapdragon 810 and the same faulty connection, so I doubt it's going to be an issue on here.
I don't remember seeing any speaker issues aside from the people who blew their earpiece speakers out with a stereo sound mod. I certainly haven't had any problems.
Get the phone and try it out. Most places have return periods that you can use if you end up not liking it. Contrary to what a lot of previous Note 7 owners have said, I don't think this phone is overpriced. I got it for $80 less than the Note 7 cost, and it has more features than that phone. (From my completely subjective and secondhand experience with the Note 7, I think this phone also performs faster.)
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Awesome! thanks for the info!

Majorcrafter said:
Awesome! thanks for the info!
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No problem.
Also, for now, I'd recommend against the S8. Latest rumors say no headphone jack.

Zacharee1 said:
No problem.
Also, for now, I'd recommend against the S8. Latest rumors say no headphone jack.
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I complete agree!
i hate the fact companies are starting to remove the headphone jack

I came form a Note 5 and I'm completely in love with my V20 It's so much more reliable and it actually stays cool. Plus the battery is almost unkillable.

Majorcrafter said:
I complete agree!
i hate the fact companies are starting to remove the headphone jack
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Ugh, There is NO comparison to a good wired connection. WTF are these companies thinking!

Really conflicted: LG V20 or S7 Edge?

So it's been a few months since I've been planning to replace my old Sammy Note 3, and now I can finally do it. And since I took the decision to replace it, I kept looking at comparisons between all the flagships out there, and the concluding battle is left between the V20 and the S7 Edge. Why I'm still conflicted after all this time is because of a couple of things: I've seen that the S7's camera is a bit better in the reviews, but most of them were testing using V20 test versions, so I believe the camera quality improved a bit, and I'm also a big lover of landscapes so the wide angle camera will surely come in handy... There's also that thing that V20's camera lenses suddenly crack, but I've seen that it sometimes happens with the S7 too, so I don't really know. And last but not the least, the fact that the speaker gets broken. Sure, all the technical problems wouldn't be much trouble if the phone wasn't such a ***** to get your hands on here in Romania, so I don't know what they are going to repair and what not with the included warranty.

I can tell you that my phones in order of preference were Note 7, LG V20, S7 Edge.
We know what happened with the Note 7, so I got the V20 about a couple of weeks ago. Beautiful phone! The hardware was nice, removable battery, larger screen, IR blaster, Nougat installed and worked great out of the box stock.
But I saw the reviews about the camera too. Tested it and dang the camera did look like it was a water color of splotches with a little zoom on the taken pictures. Just horrible. Okay maybe I could live with it with the rest of it so nice.
Cellular radio started to go into 3G randomly and I was losing calls and text messages where previously I would get tons of signal on my old Note 2. I saw the reviews as well that the LG radio was not as nice, but that I could not live with. I took it back.
Got the S7 edge. Its a nice phone. fits nice in your hand, lasts 2 days on battery with 3.5 hours of screen on time, STOCK.
I still can't get over having to send back the V20, but it would not have been worth it.
The edge has been solid. Cant get a glass screen protector, but oh well. I'm just waiting for the Android 7 update.
Just my $0.02.

Both are great phones, and they give great experience in almost all aspects, the little aspects are the ones who make u take a decision, and personally, the MOST important is Audio
Yes, audio, if u care A LOT for audio (eg speakers and headphones directly to the phone), u have to choose V20, the experience on the S7 is more than mediocre, seriously, I've never think a flagship would have so crappy inbuilt audio, even my old-emergency Xperia E1 gives better audio through headphones. If u use external speakers thorugh minijack or BT, u can go for it.
The rest would be as the mate above says, if u use IR blater and u want removable battery, the V20 are the choice for u, if the most important is design, built quality, the S7 is choice for you...
I... would say u don't have to care much about cracked phones, because it depends on usage, I've been used phones with no protection since 4-5 years ago and never have a problem, phones are not to play football or golf, so if u care about your phone it will last longer..... IMAO... oh yeah, as a note with the S7e, a case will give you a lot more grip wich is needed, thing that on the V20 u will not need

Agreed, it really depends on what YOU consider important. For me, water resistance, a superior camera and the Super AMOLED screen were huge pluses for the S7E. I really like the design of the S7E much more than an old style flat face phone, too. So for me, it was an easy choice. Maybe not for someone else, though.

Samsung all the way! The S7 edge has proved a worthy successor to my Note 7 - it hasn't disappointed me yet!
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Still a good phone?

A bit deceived by HTC with the U 11 that has apparently a bad 3.5mm adapter, I am searching for a good phone to replace my 1 year old HTC 10.
I saw the V20 is an excellent audio phone with a very good camera and screen but I am afraid of a lack of custom roms and contrast for the screen.
What do you think? Is the V20 too old to fight against newer S8 and U 11 or it's still a strong candidate?
Any lags?

I don't have my phone as I am still waiting for it to come in the mail; However, the spec on papers appears that both phones are similar in CPU and RAM. Is there something specific that draws you to the V20?

question is: why would you want to replace your htc10 in first place?
except you have some problem with it, I would see no reason why you should change it with a v20... unless you're going to use really high impedance headsets... but since you're considering the s8 as a substitute, I doubt have you have any interest for that kind of headsets.
v20 and htc10 share the same SoC, have more or less the same overall photo quality (v20 has the wide angle camera which is useful and nice but you may or may not be interested in landscapes), v20 has a better screen, but altogether it's not a great step forward from the htc10.
so... if listening to lossless tracks with high impedance headsets isn't your top priority, you can either keep your htc10 or go for the s8. otherwise v20 is a no brainer, together with the korean g6.
if you're just looking for a fresh new smartphone, s8

Well the v20 has an IR blaster and a removable battery. That alone makes it a step up from the HTC 10. The S8 and u11 don't have enough specs to make up for that IMO. If I was buying a phone today, I would personally choose the v20. I Love mine!
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The V20 is way too heavy, I was interested at first for the bigger screen but this phone is too heavy even without a cover

Not compared to the U11 you mentioned - that's only 5g lighter.
The V20 is well engineered and solidly built, that's a plus. A case adds very little extra weight.

rubiicon59 said:
Not compared to the U11 you mentioned - that's only 5g lighter.
The V20 is well engineered and solidly built, that's a plus. A case adds very little extra weight.
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I think a dbrand skin will be perfect no? it will make it prettier and protect it against scratches

I've dropped my phone several times. This phone is built to last, you don't need a silly case over it covering up all the sexiness lol

I got rid of my V20 after 5 months I hated it. Battery life was awful. The look and feel was cheap. The speaker was tinny. It was very sluggish from time to time without a reason. The screen was very good for a LCD. Dual camera was fun and pictures came out well most of the time but nothing to brag about.

V20 VS G6? Which one should I pick?

So the lg v20 and the G6 is going at 155$ here, which one should I get? I really listen to music a lot, like a lot and I take pictures of scenery here and there, but I heard lg v20s rear camera lens cover cracks! Which cracks without even bumping into anything or whatever? Is it that bad? I really really wanna get the v20 but that problem really concerns me so should I get the v20 or the G6?
It would be a great help, I am really struggling to decide.
TIA.

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So the lg v20 and the G6 is going at 155$ here, which one should I get? I really listen to music a lot, like a lot and I take pictures of scenery here and there, but I heard lg v20s rear camera lens cover cracks! Which cracks without even bumping into anything or whatever? Is it that bad? I really really wanna get the v20 but that problem really concerns me so should I get the v20 or the G6?
It would be a great help, I am really struggling to decide.
TIA.
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Go for the V20. Dropped mine without a case douzend times. The only thing I did was installing a 9H Glass on the cams. Very stable now. As you can see V20 in general is more physically reliable and you have a swappable battery! G6 looks better though. If you are going for the G6 keep in mind that not all versions are having the DAC. I love my LG V20 so much that I bought a spare one. Dual sim New for 150 euro. :victory:

V20.
I've had both and it's a better overall phone

mrtomaso said:
V20.
I've had both and it's a better overall phone
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Why do you prefer the v20 over the G6? Since you used both, can you tell me the reason by v20 is better please?

a safe haven said:
Why do you prefer the v20 over the G6? Since you used both, can you tell me the reason by v20 is better please?
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Biggest reason for me is the screen ratio. I don't like the new 'tall' screens, they don't handle video playback as well. (lot of Netflix and mx player here) instead, the v20 has the very useful 2nd screen.
Second... The second screen. Sounds like a gimmick, but love it. Nice to be able to use the flashlight preview messages without even turning on your phone.
Third... Removable battery. They're both older phones, but I like the battery pull option or replacing the battery when the time comes.
I us3d to be a 'replace' phone asap kinda person. Ever since the ppc6700, I was always upgrading. That changed 4 years ago when I bought a used note 4. Loved that phone, but I appreciate the zip/e5c of the v20.
For me, 100 bucks well spent. (sold the note 4 for 75, winner!)

mrtomaso said:
Biggest reason for me is the screen ratio. I don't like the new 'tall' screens, they don't handle video playback as well. (lot of Netflix and mx player here) instead, the v20 has the very useful 2nd screen.
Second... The second screen. Sounds like a gimmick, but love it. Nice to be able to use the flashlight preview messages without even turning on your phone.
Third... Removable battery. They're both older phones, but I like the battery pull option or replacing the battery when the time comes.
I us3d to be a 'replace' phone asap kinda person. Ever since the ppc6700, I was always upgrading. That changed 4 years ago when I bought a used note 4. Loved that phone, but I appreciate the zip/e5c of the v20.
For me, 100 bucks well spent. (sold the note 4 for 75, winner!)
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Thank you for your answer, but i am worried about the issue that v20's rear camera glass cracks with any little pressure, is that true? Did it ever happen to you? And hows the nightime photography for both of the phone since i mostly go outside at night and i like to take photos at night so it matters a lot to me, if you can give me some heads up on this, i can decide, it would be a great help!
Thank you!

a safe haven said:
Thank you for your answer, but i am worried about the issue that v20's rear camera glass cracks with any little pressure, is that true? Did it ever happen to you? And hows the nightime photography for both of the phone since i mostly go outside at night and i like to take photos at night so it matters a lot to me, if you can give me some heads up on this, i can decide, it would be a great help!
Thank you!
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I've had the v20 for 4 months and it's been a while since I've had the g6. (returned the g6 and went back to my note 4, aspect ratio annoyed me)
Might be mistaken, but I thought the cameras were pretty close or exactly the same? I was shocked at how good the camera was on the v20 (g6 too) compared to my note 4.
Bought my b20 used and with a solid case, camera lense is protected.

Hey so I've had 3 V20s and a LG G6 which I gave to my daughter. I love the V20 also because of the old 16:9 aspect ratio. And the removable battery is great for long trips. But I hate to say it but I think my beloved V20 is ending it's lifespan. I would think Oreo is last update it will get. And I tried Lineage but I need stock camera and DAC audio. And all my V20s had screen burn in. Never broke my camera lens on any of them but I guess I could see how that could happen because it protrudes a little. I guess my point is maybe G6 will have a little longer life. G6 is still a really good phone.