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So it's been a few months since I've been planning to replace my old Sammy Note 3, and now I can finally do it. And since I took the decision to replace it, I kept looking at comparisons between all the flagships out there, and the concluding battle is left between the V20 and the S7 Edge. Why I'm still conflicted after all this time is because of a couple of things: I've seen that the S7's camera is a bit better in the reviews, but most of them were testing using V20 test versions, so I believe the camera quality improved a bit, and I'm also a big lover of landscapes so the wide angle camera will surely come in handy... There's also that thing that V20's camera lenses suddenly crack, but I've seen that it sometimes happens with the S7 too, so I don't really know. And last but not the least, the fact that the speaker gets broken. Sure, all the technical problems wouldn't be much trouble if the phone wasn't such a ***** to get your hands on here in Romania, so I don't know what they are going to repair and what not with the included warranty.
Edge for sure.
The v20 dosent have it....
LG is bad at building phones.
Saumsung is much better not including the note 7.
and samsung have a grater devs forum.
Samsung is garbage now. I have never owned an LG product but have always had Sammy devices and an HTC........LG V20 is the best phone I've ever had. Only thing is its not water resistant but who wants to put their phone in water? Not me......You will be happy with the LG.....Sammy is not that great anymore. Plus I've taken 4 or 5 phones back as they have had hardware issues. I use phones hard......LG is doing a great job and under the radar.
Carried the s7.. the edeg.. note 7... this lg v20.. the htc 10.. the note 5..
The htc is falling behind with poor cameras but they have oem bootloader unlocks supported by htc some what.
The lg v20 has a good camera.. and the landscapes are cool... but lg phones in the past have been overheating and dying within 2 years and have had some design flaws. The v20 is big and bright.. but does make me worry how long it really will last with my kinda use.
And the samsung series..
Man.. I love my samasungs.. I miss the oled screens they use and how rich the colors are. And their camera is great also..I loved the note 7 and it luckily was rooted with a leaked img almost same day.. and here leads me to the cons.. everything s7 and newer is going to be bootloader locked. Root is going to be a lot harder and gonna take longer or be blocked almost fully because of this in the future without a leak or a bunch of devs.. this put me off samsung until they can provide a unlock..
So take it as is.. get what you want and underatand the pros and cons.. some will have to do with market base to and witch devices get the most love and development..
Maybe a pixel xl? Lol
Definitely the V20, I just sold my S7 Edge and I'm not looking back. Audio quality is the best of any smartphone without the need for an external AMP/DAC. The fingerprint sensor is so much better/more accurate on the V20 and it doesn't have an annoying edge that you hit all the time with the palm of your hand. Also it has USB-C which IMO is much better than Micro USB, more solid connection and faster transfer speeds.
Oh and don't forget the IR blaster, how many other phones have one? So useful.
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So it's been a few months since I've been planning to replace my old Sammy Note 3, and now I can finally do it. And since I took the decision to replace it, I kept looking at comparisons between all the flagships out there, and the concluding battle is left between the V20 and the S7 Edge. Why I'm still conflicted after all this time is because of a couple of things: I've seen that the S7's camera is a bit better in the reviews, but most of them were testing using V20 test versions, so I believe the camera quality improved a bit, and I'm also a big lover of landscapes so the wide angle camera will surely come in handy... There's also that thing that V20's camera lenses suddenly crack, but I've seen that it sometimes happens with the S7 too, so I don't really know. And last but not the least, the fact that the speaker gets broken. Sure, all the technical problems wouldn't be much trouble if the phone wasn't such a ***** to get your hands on here in Romania, so I don't know what they are going to repair and what not with the included warranty.
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I've been struggling with what to purchase next. I'm on a Note 4.
I can't offer any help, but I'd suggest you make the same post in the Samsung 7 Edge forum as well.
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Samsung is garbage now. I have never owned an LG product but have always had Sammy devices and an HTC........LG V20 is the best phone I've ever had. Only thing is its not water resistant but who wants to put their phone in water? Not me......You will be happy with the LG.....Sammy is not that great anymore. Plus I've taken 4 or 5 phones back as they have had hardware issues. I use phones hard......LG is doing a great job and under the radar.
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There are water resistant cases for the V20 on Amazon.
LG will always be my favourite
LG any day (G5 or V20) They offer smoother UI than TouchWiz ! Samsung although have same specs as any 2016 flagships do, they lag and slow down over time! Also since "water resistance" phone like S7 Edge is being overrated trend they follow, this causes the S7 Edge loudspeaker behave badly after dunging it in water, the speaker quality comes out worse on any volume. Just look how LG is never copying design language as S7 looks almost an iPhone, how LG is being innovative on their own. I can't wait for the amazing LG G6 which is supposed to launch 1 month earlier than the Galaxy S8 (i'm more interested in G6 rather than S8)
All I can say is that I loved my v10, and then have it to my mom, and she loves it. Now I have a v20 and and love it just even more! Only thing I miss is the rear mounted buttons, but overall an awesome phone! I'll take it over the glued together Sammie's and iPhones all day long!
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As someone suggested above, you should make a similar post in the samsung s7 edge forum. The main reason why I went with the V20 is the removable battery, the Quick Charging 3.0 (aftermarket), USB type-c port, USB 3.0 speed (aftermarket) and flat screen.
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As someone suggested above, you should make a similar post in the samsung s7 edge forum. The main reason why I went with the V20 is the removable battery, the Quick Charging 3.0 (aftermarket), USB type-c port, USB 3.0 speed (aftermarket) and flat screen.
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I'm really tempted to get the V20. But I'm pretty set on getting one with 6GB of RAM. I want to be futureproofed somewhat. I tend to run a LOT of apps, so I need the memory.
I had the S7 Edge before my V20 and although I miss the AMOLED display I am much happier with the V20. The V20 does not lag at all, it is very snappy. The dual lens camera is stunning on the V20, especially the wide angle lens. USB C, out of the box Android N, factory installed screen protector, and a simple and lightweight LG launcher are reasons to choose the V20 IMO.
So it's been a few months since I've been planning to replace my old Sammy Note 3, and now I can finally do it. And since I took the decision to replace it, I kept looking at comparisons between all the flagships out there, and the concluding battle is left between the V20 and the S7 Edge. Why I'm still conflicted after all this time is because of a couple of things: I've seen that the S7's camera is a bit better in the reviews, but most of them were testing using V20 test versions, so I believe the camera quality improved a bit, and I'm also a big lover of landscapes so the wide angle camera will surely come in handy... There's also that thing that V20's camera lenses suddenly crack, but I've seen that it sometimes happens with the S7 too, so I don't really know. And last but not the least, the fact that the speaker gets broken. Sure, all the technical problems wouldn't be much trouble if the phone wasn't such a ***** to get your hands on here in Romania, so I don't know what they are going to repair and what not with the included warranty.
I can tell you that my phones in order of preference were Note 7, LG V20, S7 Edge.
We know what happened with the Note 7, so I got the V20 about a couple of weeks ago. Beautiful phone! The hardware was nice, removable battery, larger screen, IR blaster, Nougat installed and worked great out of the box stock.
But I saw the reviews about the camera too. Tested it and dang the camera did look like it was a water color of splotches with a little zoom on the taken pictures. Just horrible. Okay maybe I could live with it with the rest of it so nice.
Cellular radio started to go into 3G randomly and I was losing calls and text messages where previously I would get tons of signal on my old Note 2. I saw the reviews as well that the LG radio was not as nice, but that I could not live with. I took it back.
Got the S7 edge. Its a nice phone. fits nice in your hand, lasts 2 days on battery with 3.5 hours of screen on time, STOCK.
I still can't get over having to send back the V20, but it would not have been worth it.
The edge has been solid. Cant get a glass screen protector, but oh well. I'm just waiting for the Android 7 update.
Just my $0.02.
Both are great phones, and they give great experience in almost all aspects, the little aspects are the ones who make u take a decision, and personally, the MOST important is Audio
Yes, audio, if u care A LOT for audio (eg speakers and headphones directly to the phone), u have to choose V20, the experience on the S7 is more than mediocre, seriously, I've never think a flagship would have so crappy inbuilt audio, even my old-emergency Xperia E1 gives better audio through headphones. If u use external speakers thorugh minijack or BT, u can go for it.
The rest would be as the mate above says, if u use IR blater and u want removable battery, the V20 are the choice for u, if the most important is design, built quality, the S7 is choice for you...
I... would say u don't have to care much about cracked phones, because it depends on usage, I've been used phones with no protection since 4-5 years ago and never have a problem, phones are not to play football or golf, so if u care about your phone it will last longer..... IMAO... oh yeah, as a note with the S7e, a case will give you a lot more grip wich is needed, thing that on the V20 u will not need
Agreed, it really depends on what YOU consider important. For me, water resistance, a superior camera and the Super AMOLED screen were huge pluses for the S7E. I really like the design of the S7E much more than an old style flat face phone, too. So for me, it was an easy choice. Maybe not for someone else, though.
Samsung all the way! The S7 edge has proved a worthy successor to my Note 7 - it hasn't disappointed me yet!
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I'm asking because my LG G5 main board has someway corroded and therefore I can't get it repaired under warranty.
and...
I found some really good prices of h918 model on the EBay
I've had so soo many issues with LG G5, burn in, screen discoloration, chin GAP at the bottom. Just to name a few.
My best bet is that LG G5 gap in bottom chin has caused to some moisture to go inside and corrode the main board. Price estimate for changing the main board and battery is 160€... Even though the problem is the screen and with the quality control in the factory! It has pretty major discoloration / burn in problem and battery life has gone to ****.
So here is a few questions I'd like to know about LG v20
1. How does the LG v20 screen compare to that of LG G5, Brightness? Any problems with screen discoloration or with screen burn in?
2. How does the speaker loudness and accuracy differ from G5?
3. Is v20 build quality better than G5's?
4. How does it feel in hand?
5. I can say that I'm an audiophile, are included earbuds how good? And does v20 have better/stronger headphone amplifier.
6. Is there noticeably better audio quality when listening with headphones?
Thanks!
1). The V20 and G5 have similar screens. Obviously the V20 has 0.5" size advantage but is also much bigger in general, so it is not easy to use with one hand. In terms of pixel density, brightness and colors I can't tell much of a difference. If I had to pick, however, the V20 would win any day.
2). Both phones have single, bottom-firing speakers, which I am sure you already know. What this means? Both of them are just OK. They are basically on the same level with no noticeable differences. They are not bad by any means-- plenty of phones have worse bottom firing speakers, like the Samsung Galaxy S7 line-- but for an Audio- and Cinematography- focused phone like the V20 you'd expect the speakers to match the quality of the 3.5 millimeter headphone jack. If you are dead-set on getting good (or at least better) speaker performance on the V20, you can remove the bottom bezel and take off the dust cover that LG glued onto the speaker grille. I have never tried it, because it is a dust cover after all, but if you are willing to get that speaker quality boost then there are some online instructions on how to do so.
3). Build quality is MUCH better for the V20. It's not water resistant, but it has that MIL-STD-810G drop resistance that both the V10 and the recently released V30 have. The G5, in contrast, does not. Because the phone is so big, it also weighs more, and the removable battery mechanism is also much better, both in form and function. The metal is cool to the touch and the bezels, though noticeable, are actually quite thin. Just don't ask me why LG decided to put an earpiece on the top bezel instead of a speaker, because that would have rounded off the whole package. The G5 in comparison just feels cheap and insignificant. This is, of course, completely subjective, but I have always appreciated the look and feel of the V20. The S8 and G6 might look better to most people, but the V20 is not unlike a BMW M5- it looks like a regular sedan but it hides some serious stuff under the hood.
4). The G5 wins if you plan on using either device with one hand. That said, the V20 is HUGE- much bigger than the bezel-less dwarfs we see in 2017. Unless you have mammoth hands, the V20 is best operated with both hands-- not an issue for me, but for subway warriors, it could prove to be a challenge. The G5 is just smaller, and because it feels so cheap you don’t really worry about dropping it- ironic because the V20 has the 810G drop resistance, not the G5. The G5 is more practical for everyday usage, but the V20 feels better in the hand. Regardless, I would install a case on ANY phone I buy, because these are devices you are spending 250-300 dollars for.
5). I haven’t tried the B&O H3 headphones so I can’t say. As for the headphone jack- this is where the V20 shines. Basically the headphone jack includes a dedicated Digital-to-Audio Converter (LG calls it the “HiFi Quad DAC”) and Amplifier that is able to drive high impedance headphones to the degree that matches most standalone music players- DAPs that can cost in excess of 500-1000 dollars. I only have a pair of Phillips SHP9500s- 32 ohm impedance so they are not, by definition, “High Impedance” (the V20 adjusts DAC output based on the type of headphone connected, and 50 ohms is when the “High Impedance” mode kicks in), but the difference in audio quality and loudness is certainly noticeable.
6). I’d say the audio quality is about as good as the G5 with the B&O HiFi DAC module. It’s good to me, but I don’t have the audiophile grade headphones so I can’t really say. But it is certainly better than everything else on the market right now (except the V30, obviously), so there is that re-assurance that the V20 will play your music the way it was meant to be played.
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1). The V20 and G5 have similar screens. Obviously the V20 has 0.5" size advantage but is also much bigger in general, so it is not easy to use with one hand. In terms of pixel density, brightness and colors I can't tell much of a difference. If I had to pick, however, the V20 would win any day.
2). Both phones have single, bottom-firing speakers, which I am sure you already know. What this means? Both of them are just OK. They are basically on the same level with no noticeable differences. They are not bad by any means-- plenty of phones have worse bottom firing speakers, like the Samsung Galaxy S7 line-- but for an Audio- and Cinematography- focused phone like the V20 you'd expect the speakers to match the quality of the 3.5 millimeter headphone jack. If you are dead-set on getting good (or at least better) speaker performance on the V20, you can remove the bottom bezel and take off the dust cover that LG glued onto the speaker grille. I have never tried it, because it is a dust cover after all, but if you are willing to get that speaker quality boost then there are some online instructions on how to do so.
3). Build quality is MUCH better for the V20. It's not water resistant, but it has that MIL-STD-810G drop resistance that both the V10 and the recently released V30 have. The G5, in contrast, does not. Because the phone is so big, it also weighs more, and the removable battery mechanism is also much better, both in form and function. The metal is cool to the touch and the bezels, though noticeable, are actually quite thin. Just don't ask me why LG decided to put an earpiece on the top bezel instead of a speaker, because that would have rounded off the whole package. The G5 in comparison just feels cheap and insignificant. This is, of course, completely subjective, but I have always appreciated the look and feel of the V20. The S8 and G6 might look better to most people, but the V20 is not unlike a BMW M5- it looks like a regular sedan but it hides some serious stuff under the hood.
4). The G5 wins if you plan on using either device with one hand. That said, the V20 is HUGE- much bigger than the bezel-less dwarfs we see in 2017. Unless you have mammoth hands, the V20 is best operated with both hands-- not an issue for me, but for subway warriors, it could prove to be a challenge. The G5 is just smaller, and because it feels so cheap you don’t really worry about dropping it- ironic because the V20 has the 810G drop resistance, not the G5. The G5 is more practical for everyday usage, but the V20 feels better in the hand. Regardless, I would install a case on ANY phone I buy, because these are devices you are spending 250-300 dollars for.
5). I haven’t tried the B&O H3 headphones so I can’t say. As for the headphone jack- this is where the V20 shines. Basically the headphone jack includes a dedicated Digital-to-Audio Converter (LG calls it the “HiFi Quad DAC”) and Amplifier that is able to drive high impedance headphones to the degree that matches most standalone music players- DAPs that can cost in excess of 500-1000 dollars. I only have a pair of Phillips SHP9500s- 32 ohm impedance so they are not, by definition, “High Impedance” (the V20 adjusts DAC output based on the type of headphone connected, and 50 ohms is when the “High Impedance” mode kicks in), but the difference in audio quality and loudness is certainly noticeable.
6). I’d say the audio quality is about as good as the G5 with the B&O HiFi DAC module. It’s good to me, but I don’t have the audiophile grade headphones so I can’t really say. But it is certainly better than everything else on the market right now (except the V30, obviously), so there is that re-assurance that the V20 will play your music the way it was meant to be played.
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Thanks! Much appreciated input!
That 260€ for LG v20 sounds a hugely better deal than to put 160€ for repair center to change main board and battery for LG G5 and that wouldn't even fix the undeniable quality control issues with the screen that I've experienced with two LG G5, first one passed RMA but they couldn't get screen part so I got a whole new LG G5. Only to experience the exactly same problems 2-4 months later.
Are LG v20 screens better in terms of quality control? Hell even my old Samsung Galaxy S5 that I gave to my brother when I got G5 that is almost 3 years old with quite a lot of screen on time haven't had a single issues with screen. That's even under quite rough conditions.
Can't really say much about the reliability of the V20, since I've only had mine for around half a year. And I just bricked it over the weekend (deleted /system). You'll probably find out more through a Google search, but I haven't heard much about V20 reliability issues.
Are you buying the H918 T-mobile exclusive, or unlocked? Also, brand new or used? I'd say 260 euro is too expensive for T-mobile exclusive, brand new or not. Unlocked would be a great deal brand new.
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Can't really say much about the reliability of the V20, since I've only had mine for around half a year. And I just bricked it over the weekend (deleted /system). You'll probably find out more through a Google search, but I haven't heard much about V20 reliability issues.
Are you buying the H918 T-mobile exclusive, or unlocked? Also, brand new or used? I'd say 260 euro is too expensive for T-mobile exclusive, brand new or not. Unlocked would be a great deal brand new.
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It's h918 network unlocked at 260€ from hong kong
Listing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LG-V20-H9...7?var=&hash=item3f898babb1:g:r8IAAOSw41tZ4Cil
And brand new
Not bad I guess. As I am in the U.S. I highly recommend not buying from Hong Kong (many fraud listings on eBay) but since you are in the UK I don't know. Just be careful buying from international sellers.
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Not bad I guess. As I am in the U.S. I highly recommend not buying from Hong Kong (many fraud listings on eBay) but since you are in the UK I don't know. Just be careful buying from international sellers.
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Okay, well i'm not that afraid of frauds because it will be covered by EBay or paypal if product is not as listed
Do you know what model is the most custom rom friendly? I'm afraid if h918 that I buy has the latest security patch or so
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Moto G6, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Moto G6 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Got it activated first on Project Fi 3 days ago, for some reasons - I was "expecting" it to be a little bigger but it's just 2 clicks larger than the Nexus 5X getting traded in with the "generous" upgrade. For an entry/mid-range smartphone in 2018, I voted a 4 out of 5 (not that the absence of NFC or inability to use G.Pay is a make or break deal, I hardly use it & most places still do not accept it as mobile payment here in the US)
Dolby sound is very good, screen is bright & audio played via the speaker is fine - giving it a good workout as we hit the road today for a trip, more on the G6 later ... bootloader still locked at the moment.
Net cost to get this brand new G6 to me is about $120 after the trade-in, not really spend much more than paying someone to replace the old, tired & not as good 2.5 years old battery on the Nexus 5X, so I'm a little biased on this Lenovo/Motorola piece.
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Got it activated first on Project Fi 3 days ago, for some reasons - I was "expecting" it to be a little bigger but it's just 2 clicks larger than the Nexus 5X getting traded in with the "generous" upgrade. For an entry/mid-range smartphone in 2018, I voted a 4 out of 5 (not that the absence of NFC or inability to use G.Pay is a make or break deal, I hardly use it & most places still do not accept it as mobile payment here in the US)
Dolby sound is very good, screen is bright & audio played via the speaker is fine - giving it a good workout as we hit the road today for a trip, more on the G6 later ... bootloader still locked at the moment.
Net cost to get this brand new G6 to me is about $120 after the trade-in, not really spend much more than paying someone to replace the old, tired & not as good 2.5 years old battery on the Nexus 5X, so I'm a little biased on this Lenovo/Motorola piece.
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Similar thoughts as you (also running the Project Fi version of the phone).
- Phone is smaller than I expected.
- Loving the thin bezels, looks much more premium than the actual cost to me ($200)
- I don't use NFC. Don't trust it, so the lack of NFC is not a big deal
- Battery life is good, front facing speaker loud, screen is bright and sharp
- Responsiveness is in line with what you would expect from a $300-400 phone IMO
- Nearly stock Android experience = CLUTCH
Agree with others. Coming from a 5X most everything is acceptable given the price. I was blown away by the speaker. BUT my biggest gripe is the cameras low light performance...its not good by any means, very grainy, colors are bad. Regular outdoor pics are good though. Also wouldve preferred for it to NOT have a glass back since im a klutz and guaranteed to break it.
Have had this phone a couple of weeks now. Got to say I like it a lot. Definitely a step up from my Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 that I had for 3 years. This is also the most expensive phone (about $250) I've had as I'm a cheap skate and no way I'm ever paying $400 plus for a phone. Just can't bring myself to do it. The price I paid for this phone is "high dollar" for me, lol. Still getting used to the new 18x9 screen. A part of me likes it and a part of me likes 16x9 better. Since pretty much all phones are going to this size, I guess I better get used to it. The new screen size almost feels like a "cheater" to me. Moved the menu icons inside screen and made the width smaller making keyboard in portrait view (which is the way I text) actually a little smaller than what I had. Taller view but most stuff you view in landscape has bars so I don't see the benefit to it yet. Most comments I read about it, people love it. Me not so much. Phone itself is very good. Performance is very good, screen resolution is very good, camera is very good, battery life is very good (especially compared to my Redmi Note 2 which was a battery sucker). I like Android 8 and Moto apps. Pretty much bloatware free, and is nice and snappy. Had to put a case on it (put a Spigen on it) cause the phone actually felt a little small in my hands. The case gave it a little more bulk and made it feel a lot better in my hand. Love the fingerprint scanner which to me is the coolest thing since sliced bread (yup I'm a dinosaur). To tell the truth I would probably still be using the Note 2 but it started acting up on me. Now since I got this one though, it pretty much blows away my old phone in every way possible which of course is a good thing since I spent the bucks for a new phone. All in all I'm pretty damned happy with this phone. About the only thing I could say I wished it was, was a bigger phone. I went from a 5.5" 16x9 screen to a 5.7" 18x9 screen and this feels smaller than the other one to me in my hands. In the 18x9 size, I wish a had like a 6" or 6.5" screen. That would give more width that I would like to have. The width on the 16x9 was actually about 1/4" wider than the18x9 one, which is actually a substantial difference when using a keyboard.
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Have had this phone a couple of weeks now. Got to say I like it a lot. Definitely a step up from my Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 that I had for 3 years. This is also the most expensive phone (about $250) I've had as I'm a cheap skate and no way I'm ever paying $400 plus for a phone. Just can't bring myself to do it. The price I paid for this phone is "high dollar" for me, lol. Still getting used to the new 18x9 screen. A part of me likes it and a part of me likes 16x9 better. Since pretty much all phones are going to this size, I guess I better get used to it. The new screen size almost feels like a "cheater" to me. Moved the menu icons inside screen and made the width smaller making keyboard in portrait view (which is the way I text) actually a little smaller than what I had. Taller view but most stuff you view in landscape has bars so I don't see the benefit to it yet. Most comments I read about it, people love it. Me not so much. Phone itself is very good. Performance is very good, screen resolution is very good, camera is very good, battery life is very good (especially compared to my Redmi Note 2 which was a battery sucker). I like Android 8 and Moto apps. Pretty much bloatware free, and is nice and snappy. Had to put a case on it (put a Spigen on it) cause the phone actually felt a little small in my hands. The case gave it a little more bulk and made it feel a lot better in my hand. Love the fingerprint scanner which to me is the coolest thing since sliced bread (yup I'm a dinosaur). To tell the truth I would probably still be using the Note 2 but it started acting up on me. Now since I got this one though, it pretty much blows away my old phone in every way possible which of course is a good thing since I spent the bucks for a new phone. All in all I'm pretty damned happy with this phone. About the only thing I could say I wished it was, was a bigger phone. I went from a 5.5" 16x9 screen to a 5.7" 18x9 screen and this feels smaller than the other one to me in my hands. In the 18x9 size, I wish a had like a 6" or 6.5" screen. That would give more width that I would like to have. The width on the 16x9 was actually about 1/4" wider than the18x9 one, which is actually a substantial difference when using a keyboard.
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Great post, MikeO89...
Love your enthusiasm for the G6. It pretty much echoes mine.
I paid £220 here in the UK for mine, and like yourself, it's really about as much as I want to pay for a phone these days. There's been a considerable amount of coverage over the recent release of the Samsung Galaxy Note 9, and certainly the specs do look pretty damn awesome, but at close to nearly a £1000, an eye-watering sum of money for me... well, I just couldn't envisage spending that amount, even if I had it. Maybe when I have the next winning Euromillions lottery ticket, I'll buy one or whatever flagship is out then, but until that auspicious and lucky day arrives, I'm more than happy with my Moto G6.
And which I bought to replace my ageing and battery-dying HTC One M8, which I paid £530 for back in 2014. I remember my Dad at the time saying in almost stunned and amazed disbelief "You want to spend how much on a phone??!!!" as though he'd not quite heard me correctly. Of course, I did try to explain that it was more of a personal pocket computer that just happens to have the ability to make phone calls. After I bought one and he saw it in action and began to understand the capabilities of it... well, he went out and bought one himself!
That was four years ago, and I'm a little bit more price conscious these days, so when my One M8's battery began to die earlier this year, I knew I needed a new phone.
Initially, I made the mistake of assuming that you needed to spend £600 or £700 on a phone to get a quality device. I'd been hearing about the Moto G series phones and the rave reviews they'd received around a year before, so when I heard about this years G6 release, I checked out all the reviews. My initial response was one of skepticism ~ how can a company like Lenovo release a phone with such great features at just a shade over £200 AND make a profit. Surely there's a catch, I mean there has to be, right? Wrong!
As it turns out, the Moto G6 is every bit as good as the reviews say it is. And you don't need to mortgage your soul to own one. I mean, where do I begin... fast turbo charging, really nice vibrant colourful screen, amazing battery life, Android 8 Oreo with next-to-no bloat, and fingerprint unlock. Yeah, I love fingerprint unlock. It's like your very own personal ON switch that nobody else can use, and no more playing join-the-dots and trying to remember which unlock pattern is correct for this device amongst the other devices (tablets) I own.
As for the size and aspect ratio, I love it. Coming from my old HTC One M8 which had an aspect of 16:9 and a resolution of 1080x1920...
...to the Moto G6 with an aspect of 18:9 (Rhetorical question: why isn't it just simply called 2:1) and resolution of 1080x2160, which my calculations reveal to be a 12.5% increase based on number of pixels alone. It is a sort of a cheat, but I feel in a good way. I now have a phone that doesn't feel significantly bigger than my One M8, because the width has stayed the same, but the height has increased, but not by that much when you 'add-on' the One M8's speakers at the top and bottom, but the actual screen size increase on the G6 is quite noticeable.
I use Nova Launcher, and I like tinkering around with Themes, Icon Packs, Wallpapers and Layouts and with the increase vertically, I now have more layout options for things like icons and widgets, because there's an extra couple of rows on the Nova desktop. And 5.7 inches feels about right to me. I'm not sure I would feel comfortable handling something like a 6 inch or larger device. If I can, I like to operate my phone one-handed and the bigger these things get, the more difficult one-handed operation becomes.
I do take your point about black bars in landscape mode though, particularly if you're watching video content, most of which tends to be shot in 16:9 aspect. This doesn't overly bother me really, because I generally don't watch a lot of stuff on my phone anyway. And when I do, I just sort of ignore the black bars. I watch a lot of old films and TV dramas on my TV back when things were shot in 4:3 aspect, and I just got used to seeing left and right black bars on my TV, so on my phone it's really not an issue for me.
I guess we can quibble about the shortcomings of the G6 ~ for example, the one thing I do miss is the left and right stereo HTC BoomSound front facing speakers that provided great quality audio on my old One M8. On the G6 there's only a single mono speaker - it sounds pretty good, but I miss the stereo - gotta dig out my headphones now if I want stereo. Great that there's an old fashioned 3.5mm audio socket on it for me to use my headphones. Won't get that an some £1000 flagships! I jest of course; I'm not having a pop at flagship devices, I'm just amused by the irony of it.
So, on the whole, minor quibbles aside, the Moto G6 is a pretty amazing phone for such a great price. It performs brilliantly and looks great. The Gorilla Glass back adds a touch of class to the device, although it can feel a little bit slippery at times. When I first got it, I had unpleasant visions of it sliding out of my hand and crashing to the concrete outside and cracking all that beautiful glass (the horror, the horror!), so I have now ensconced it in the protective embrace of a Spigen case, which actually looks quite good, and feels good in the hand too.
Well, that pretty much says it all really. A great phone at a great price. Can't really say much more than that... Well, I could, but then I'd be here all night typing superlatives and this post would just go on and on and on and on, etc., etc. and etc.
Ged.
its not the fastest device but for a budget device I really like it.
Overall probably the best bang for your buck if your looking at carrier specific devices. Came from a Galaxy S7 which I kinda went swimming with. I'm loving the 18:9 screen. I do notice the occasional hiccup when multitasking, but the battery life is on another level compared to my old S7.
Love my North American unlocked G6! Great value for the money. The battery life is fine, but I suggest using a browser for some of your social media, if you want to get plenty of power for a day of use.
I've already gotten direct looks at my phone from other people, and some folks can't believe I paid less than $300 for it. Glad I chose the oyster finish vs deep indigo. I do have a case on it, as the glass back is known to crack easily if the phone falls hard on the ground. My B&H order came with a free frosted silicone case, and tempered glass for the screen. Perfect!
Coming from U11 life, this phone seems better.
VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling work out of the box with T-Mobile
Rather loud speaker
I think 2:1 screen is OK
It looks like plain Android
Cam looks OK under low light
Decent reception with B12
It's fast like 6xx processor.
Adjustable screen tint
I am satisfied with the phone for the price.
Cool looking..
I've manageg to buy mine G6 for 129EUR, for that price it's best device I could choose.
Great phone for ~$100 now on eBay that's still getting security updates.
Pros:
+ $100 now on eBay for like-new condition
+ Almost pure stock Android, very little bloat and what is there I actually use (chop twice for flashlight, etc). Very stable.
+ Great band support, unlocked XT1925-6 will work on any US carrier, only missing bands 14, 46, and 71.
+ 3gb RAM is plenty sufficient to keep about three resource-heavy apps active at once.
+ Camera is decent enough and about what you'd expect from a phone in this price range.
+ You can adjust DPI under developer options, which makes content on phone appear larger/smaller so you can fit more on-screen. Very handy.
Cons:
- SD450 is an obvious bottleneck in resource-heavy apps, expect sporadic lag if you're playing PUBGM or running a browser with ten tabs open.
- Battery life could be better, usually end the day around 20% with moderate use. Not bad, but not great either.
If this had a SD600 series and a slightly larger battery it'd easily be 5*. For $100 bucks though it's hard to be upset with it.
Well I found the first problem with this phone. I can't get it to recognize an external microphone to record with the camera. I plugged in an external mic I had (3.5mm with 4 pin plug) and at first thought it was working as I made a couple of videos. Then I noticed in the videos that the sound would go up and down through the video. As I later found out, the volume was going up and down each time I would walk away from the phone while recording being the external mic had a 6 ft cord on it. I then actually tested the external mic this time (like I should have from the beginning) and found out the whole time it was still recording with the onboard mic even with external mic plugged in. The G6 was just ignoring it as a microphone and treating it as a headphone. So now I'm stymied. The onboard mic works well enough but I really wanted to have an external mic if I wanted it. I can hardly find any info on this whole external mic vs onboard mic thing with cellphones. Still like this phone and plan on having it for quite some time but a little bummed about this latest development.
OK, doing a follow up post to the one above concerning the issue with G6 not recognizing external mic when making a video. I had about given up on this and I had been searching like crazy about it. With my lack on finding anyone having similar issues like this, I was starting to think I'm the only one who is trying to use an external mic with this phone to make videos. I thought maybe is was just a jack issue so I then tried same external mic with my voice recorder app. With that app the external mic was working. Now I knew it wasn't the jack. I then installed "Open Camera" from the Google Play Store. There was actually a setting in video settings to select an external mic for recording. I then went ahead and made another video using the external mic and what do you know it worked perfect! One other setting that I'm excited about so far in Open Camera is the video stabilization setting. I don't have the steadiest hands and always had to use a tripod or my videos would come out like being on a boat. Made one with that setting on and it kept the video still as I was shooting it. It made me look like my shake was gone (wish it really was). This Open Camera app just kicks the living **** out of the Moto G6 stock camera app! Sure glad I tried it.
Got one on Motorola promo for $100. Very nice inexpensive backup phone!
I own a Galaxy S9 plus about two month..
But I'm already very disappointed....
I know I'll miss Dolby Atmos , the screen for sure..
Now I need to know how good is the camera, screen & sound quality on OnePlus 6T?
If any one have any suggestions please help me..
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I own a Galaxy S9 plus about two month..
But I'm already very disappointed....
I know I'll miss Dolby Atmos , the screen for sure..
Now I need to know how good is the camera, screen & sound quality on OnePlus 6T?
If any one have any suggestions please help me..
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you can find a magisk module for viper or dolby
gcam works great and will do you well in regards to reproducing great colors
the mics are much worse, so be prepared for that
the screen is dimmer but imo I like my screen dimmer so that I do not burn my eye sockets with beams of light
I do miss the curved amoled display, but have got over it bc of the the 6.4 inch display with minimal bezals.
Battery will be twice as good when compared to s9 plus, mainly due to custom kernels.
the speaker is plenty loud enough for media consumption
I think it depends on what you use a phone for. If having a great camera, Samsung pay, awesome sound or wireless charging us a must for you than stick with the Galaxy. If you want a blazing fast, near stock ui, with awesome battery life and very fast charging, than go with the OP6t. I switched from a Galaxy S9+ and don't regret it one bit.
I used to have to keep the Galaxy on the wireless charger all day to make sure I always had enough battery to make it through an a few hours away from home. As soon as you turn that beautiful S9 screen on, it seemed like the battery dropped 10 percent every few minutes. I routinely make it through the day on the OP6t with 50 percent left and get around 7 hours of on screen time before needing to charge.
You don't need to do anything custom if you don't want to. I'm running stock and love it. I actually think the screen is awesome. Something about the size and color make it really enjoyable to use. It isn't quite as bright but who cares? I doubt most people use the S9 at Max brightness anyway.
The OP6t doesn't have stereo speakers but the one it does have sounds quite nice. They also recently added an equalizer and sound profiles which I like.
I think it's the ui that completely won me over. Samsung's always felt slow while oxegen os is the fastest Android experience I've ever seen, even when put up against stuff like the pixel.
I like Samsung pay and wireless charging but they aren't must-haves for me. The only thing I really miss is the camera. The OP6t isn't bad but it definitely isn't as good as the S9.
It's two totally different phones. I've had a Note 9 and 6T simultaneously for a while and while the Note 9 is the better phone in almost every regard except speed and battery life (software is subjective) i sold my Note 9 yesterday and keeping the 6T. The main reason being that the 6T feels so much better in the hand (Thunder Purple). The Note is a greeze magnet and that is very uncomfortable to me. The 6T hardly collects fingerprints at all and feels 10 times better in the hand albeit more slippery. But it just feel so much better in the hand. I do miss the audio quality in wired headphones from the Note. But I have recently ordered a Razer usb-c to 3,5mm dongle that is supposed to be much better than the pass-through dongle that is shipped with the 6T as the razer one has a good DAC in it. I also miss the stereo speakers from the Note. But I can live with this.
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It's two totally different phones. I've had a Note 9 and 6T simultaneously for a while and while the Note 9 is the better phone in almost every regard except speed and battery life (software is subjective) i sold my Note 9 yesterday and keeping the 6T. The main reason being that the 6T feels so much better in the hand (Thunder Purple). The Note is a greeze magnet and that is very uncomfortable to me. The 6T hardly collects fingerprints at all and feels 10 times better in the hand albeit more slippery. But it just feel so much better in the hand. I do miss the audio quality in wired headphones from the Note. But I have recently ordered a Razer usb-c to 3,5mm dongle that is supposed to be much better than the pass-through dongle that is shipped with the 6T as the razer one has a good DAC in it. I also miss the stereo speakers from the Note. But I can live with this.
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I have both as well. Going to keep both because both are awesome in different ways. On the weekdays, the note goes to work with me as I like using the pen. If I am traveling I'll take the note as well because the camera is a little better not much though o6t does a good job.
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I have both as well. Going to keep both because both are awesome in different ways. On the weekdays, the note goes to work with me as I like using the pen. If I am traveling I'll take the note as well because the camera is a little better not much though o6t does a good job.
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I was thinking of doing the same actually but the oleophobic coating was pretty worn off already in some places on the Note and that disturbed me. It got worn off on the edge parts very quickly by just laying in my pocket in a pair of jeans that has very short pockets so the phone was visible. It rubbed against the edges and in only a few weeks time the coating was totally gone in some areas. I really dislike the edge part of the phone I hope the Note 10 will be flat.
I had note 8 and sold it and went to the 6T. Don't regret it all the 6T is way faster with awesome battery life. I have to say that Google pay is faster than Samsung pay. The only thing I miss is the points from Samsung pay. I have the Galaxy frontier watch paired with the 6t, so use Samsung pay there and Google pay with phone.
At this point the OnePlus camera being being bad is a shoe that no longer fits. It was true in the past with previous devices, no denying it, but nowadays the 6T takes great photos and only those who need, want, and can actually tell the difference between this and the very best need consider it part of their decision process. The only real upgrade you're going to see is battery life, no lies were told above, OnePlus has got the battery thing figured out and you're going to love the new found freedom from charge sources if you move over. Everything else is more or less lateral in the big stuff and a matter of preference in the details. You're on an excellent device of the latest generation, if money is not something you have to throw around I'd stick where you are at least until spring. If you've got a bit of spare ching and the battery life has been annoying for you on the 9 it might be worth a move. If you've got real money then you scratch the itch because, why not scratch it?