Hi, I have the 2gb RAM variant of the P9 lite (L21) and apart from the usual bad ram memory management, I now even get EMUI launcher redraw/reload when I go back from Chrome. To try it yourself, open facebook's website on chrome and use for 10-15 minutes and after that, going back will probably make the launcher redraw/reload. Is this just the bad RAM management of EMUI and is there any solution to it?
Thanks!
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My main reason for switching from SGS to SGS2 was the RAM (besides the annonying lag when I/O), on SGS constantly the browser was closing when switching to an app (eg: twitter, gmail) and back.
Well.. unfortunately even if we have a lot of free RAM on Galaxy S II, Android KEEPS closing the applications after a while (sometime in less than 3 minutes). It's extremely annoying that we cannot use the free RAM because of Android nature of closing NEEDED apps.. Can we change this?
Another problem with the browser, it happened many times to me: it just closes automatically when using, I cannot reproduce, it just happens random. This is more annoying than the first thing because when re-opening the browser it doesn't open from cache state (with URL-s on tabs).. so you lose all the information about opened urls (I tend to open many tabs, in most cases all 8 tabs are being used by me)
I have installed Opera, xScope but simply I prefer the stock browser because is the most polished and faster browser IMO
(tested also junks as Firefox - wich is a shame - and Skyfire - same)
Your solution is to root ans install one of those apps that alters androids internal ram levels. That will keep your browser in memory and not reload everytime.
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My main reason for switching from SGS to SGS2 was the RAM (besides the annonying lag when I/O), on SGS constantly the browser was closing when switching to an app (eg: twitter, gmail) and back.
Well.. unfortunately even if we have a lot of free RAM on Galaxy S II, Android KEEPS closing the applications after a while (sometime in less than 3 minutes). It's extremely annoying that we cannot use the free RAM because of Android nature of closing NEEDED apps.. Can we change this?
Another problem with the browser, it happened many times to me: it just closes automatically when using, I cannot reproduce, it just happens random. This is more annoying than the first thing because when re-opening the browser it doesn't open from cache state (with URL-s on tabs).. so you lose all the information about opened urls (I tend to open many tabs, in most cases all 8 tabs are being used by me)
I have installed Opera, xScope but simply I prefer the stock browser because is the most polished and faster browser IMO
(tested also junks as Firefox - wich is a shame - and Skyfire - same)
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install CM11 and you will get plenty of free RAM. Much more than on stock 4.1.2 ROM.
Free ram in Android is 'wasted' (as it is with any Linux derivative). It's not designed to keep ram free, memory is managed in a completely different/much more efficient manner than Windoze/other OSes (which is the reason why n00bs get in a tizz when they see relatively lower free ram in Android, they're used to the way it's managed by other OSes.
By attempting to force more free ram, you are not going to somehow magically improve the performance of the device, if you think you will, you're fantasising & ignoring 2.5 yrs of however many people's experience with this phone (which says Android manages ram just fine).
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Free ram in Android is 'wasted' (as it is with any Linux derivative). It's not designed to keep ram free
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This, free ram is overrated. Usually, a lot of the ram is cached apps/processes, not really consuming cpu cycles, just there in ram until the app is used again or the space is reclaimed by another process, thus, in terms, is reclaimable ram. Unless of course there is a bugged app with a memory leak.
Now, why the browser keeps losing the data on app switch, is another topic and I honestly think there is something else going on with the phone and not really android f*cking up with the ram management.
Personally, i would update to the latest version (if youre not there already), and then create a backup and do a complete wipe (had a friend with a completely messed up xperia that when he did the wipe, it almost looked like a new phone afterwards)
Hello everyone.
My issue is rather simple.
I used to have a Galaxy S3 that had a really poor multi-tasking experience with its very limited 1Gb of RAM.
So I bought the Note 3 that was bound to provide me with enough RAM for a better multitasking experience.
So far it was OK and way better than S3 capability but then KitKat came along and this is where my nightmare began.
Simply put, I cannot take benefit of the 3Gb of RAM I have on my device.
My Galaxy Note 3 is the international version bought in France with a Snapdragon S800 and 3Gb of RAM.
During my every day usage, I ofently switch between a certain sets of applications so to me, it is very important that these applications are not killed.
My original settings :
OOM is untouched, though I tried to set it to light with System Tuner but it did not help.
I have a few services that are launched when the device boot : Network Speed to measure bandwith in real time, OS Monitor to display CPU and RAM usage in real time as well and finally System Tuner.
Under develpoment options in the Settings, the limit of apps in background is set to standard (by default)
This is a sequence of test runs I made to show what is going on and why I deem my multitasking experience poor.
In the aim to offer accurate data, this is the list of apps I am using a lot :
app 1 = World War - a 2D non dynamic video game ;
app 2 = iMobster - same as above ;
app 3 = TweetCaster - a twitter client
app 4 = EvolveSMS - a SMS client. Can take a lot of RAM if many SMS are loaded (over thousands of SMS = 100Mb of RAM)
app 5 = Google Chrome - the web browser (not beta) with one tab loaded, two tabs saved but unloaded
Here we go.
Reboot phone -> 1.5Gb of free RAM (1.9Gb at the beginning then 1.5Gb in average after waiting for the aforementioned on-boot apps to be launched)
Launch app 1 -> 1.4Gb of free RAM
Launch app 2 -> 1.3Gb of free RAM
Launch app 3 -> 1.0Gb of free RAM
Launch app 4 -> 800Mb of free RAM
Launch app 5 -> 600Mb of free RAM
Upon each launch I waited for the app to be completely loaded (no splashscreen or loading screen). Then I check with both OS Monitor and System Tuner's widgets to check up the free RAM (sometimes their data differ, but not a lot ~100/200mb).
Repeating this particular sequence bears the same results : when launching app 5 (Google Chrome), app 1 and 3 are closed.
Some time only one of them. But most of the time two apps are closed.
Futhermore, I notice I can't not get less than 500Mb of free RAM. Unless I use Google Chrome to load heavy websites, there is no way than by launching more apps I will get under this limit.
Simply put, I cannot have more than 4 to 5 apps running in background.
I tried different ROMS :
- 2 based on Samsung KitKat ROMs : Jackyaway and S5 port V6. I have the same issue.
- CM 11. : too unstable at the time but perhaps better because the OS takes less RAM than Samsung.
So here I am.
When I was on Android 4.3, it was nice, Moving to 4.x is a disaster.
What can I do ? How is your experience ? How many apps do you manage to keep in the background ?
You are aware that the default setting for 'keep in background' equals 4?
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You are aware that the default setting for 'keep in background' equals 4?
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Then how can I change it ???
This is really common and isn't an issue. Android will cache a lot of resources in RAM. When that RAM space is needed, the cache is freed. Do not worry.
Colton127 said:
This is really common and isn't an issue. Android will cache a lot of resources in RAM. When that RAM space is needed, the cache is freed. Do not worry.
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Sorry but no.
How come ..
In Android 4.3 I had better multi-tasking experience (more apps in background) while having a smooth system ...
In Android 4.4,x I have an horrible multi-tasking experience (less apps in background).
I mean I have been doing more tests and it's driving me CRAZY ! After just rebooting my phone, I have about 1300Mb of FREE RAM and then after starting my 4 usual applications, it still have 1Gb of FREE RAM, why, please tell me why would Android feel the need to kill one of these apps after I launched a 5th one ?
This is getting ridiculous ! In what world could Android based on Linux kernel simply decide to kill my apps when it has 1Gb of FREE RAM !
When I was on 4.3 I could have ;
- my 2 2D video games
- my twitter client
- my SMS application
- chrome with 3 tabs opened
- play store opened,
- galerie displaying a picture
etc etc.. all stayed in background. They just got killed whenever I started a heavy application such as a 3D video game and in that case it's completely normal.
Heck I even recalled playing to Asphalt 7 then having a phone call while replying to an SMS (or checking my tweets) all at the same time.
Guess what I can do, now in KitKat ?
Oh god I hate my self for moving to kitkat. Makes me want to throw my phone away.
Search for zeppelinrox's V6 supercharger, I recall it has a feature to allow more apps to run in the background.
I am yet to do this myself, noticed the poor multitasking also.
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Search for zeppelinrox's V6 supercharger, I recall it has a feature to allow more apps to run in the background.
I am yet to do this myself, noticed the poor multitasking also.
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That could be a solution. I used in on my Galaxy S3 but it did little help since the phone was lame at the beginning.
I never believed I would use it again on the phone I deemed good for multitasking.
But I am glad to hear that I am not the only one thinking the same thing.
I will try the fix and post here my findings. Should you try the same thing, do not hesitate to share your experience here.
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Quite some time have passed since my last post here ... but my problem remains still.
I've juste moved to Cynogen Mode 11 as of last Snapshot (stable) version.
Overall, the system is stable. Much faster, way smoother. I won't miss TouchWiz I think.
RAM usage is lower : now on boot with the same services I like to have, it sill have over 1.6Gb of free RAM.
That's quite a lote I would like to use, but still can't.
But I must be fair, my multitasking experience is slightly better. First because I can finally have other options to switch between apps other than by long-pressing the home button.
But also because it seems I can finally have a few more apps staying in the background.
When looking for solutions to my problem, I ran across this : RAM and multitasking...so bad.
I said : "finally, someone understanding me".
I read all replies, and this is what seems to come out : KitKat seems to have a built-in feature that auto-kills app whenever a limit of active apps is reached.
This limit is around 10 and 20. I don't know where this limit is set, how it is defined, where I can find, how I can change, and why it exists.
I believe V6 Supercharger did change that limit on Jelly Bean and ICS. I thought this limit disappeared in 4.3.... did it come back in 4.4 ?
Does it work on KitKat ?
Well, I hope someone here can help me. Thanks !
Bump to this. I have a Xperia Z3 Compact and experience the same problem... I never have this problem before with other devices in 4.3.. The multitask since Kitkat is just horrible.
I have the 2GB ram variant of the Redmi 3S. Unfortunately the ram management is very poor in both miui & custom roms. I use basic apps like Facebook, WhatsApp, messenger & all Google apps. Apps close all the time in background and multitasking is almost impossible. Anyone else having the problem? Any solutions?
Even without any background apps running I get only less than 800mb
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I have the 2GB ram variant of the Redmi 3S. Unfortunately the ram management is very poor in both miui & custom roms. I use basic apps like Facebook, WhatsApp, messenger & all Google apps. Apps close all the time in background and multitasking is almost impossible. Anyone else having the problem? Any solutions?
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Yaa!...here too facing same problem... Actually,yes, RAM optimization of this device is not so gud...use a official custom ROM...might help.
I found the solution. Use Kernel Aduitor to change the minfree values. You can use the 'very light' preset in Low Memory Killer section, it works really well & I'm able to do some quite heavy multitasking.
Hi,
My phone is the 2gb variant. i know 2gb is not much these days, but every couple of apps i run, one restarts when i try to go back in. I have removed those apps from the protected list and i'm on the power plan that doenst help with battery usage, yet they restart. I have the 4.4. B160 version of emui.
For example, i run one app, lets say facebook ( i know its a ****ty app, just an example) and its all good.
Then i run Messenger (same, just an example)
Then i go back to Facebook --- Boom--- restart app instead of saving in memory
Any help?
Drewchristo1991 said:
Hi,
My phone is the 2gb variant. i know 2gb is not much these days, but every couple of apps i run, one restarts when i try to go back in. I have removed those apps from the protected list and i'm on the power plan that doenst help with battery usage, yet they restart. I have the 4.4. B160 version of emui.
For example, i run one app, lets say facebook ( i know its a ****ty app, just an example) and its all good.
Then i run Messenger (same, just an example)
Then i go back to Facebook --- Boom--- restart app instead of saving in memory
Any help?
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EMUI is known not be good at RAM management i have the 3gb model and i can loose up to 200-300MB of ram sometimes.
If you have the proper knowledge, you might want to try out Cyanogenmod. It handles RAM much better.
Anybody knows if this problem persists on EMUI Nouga? I think it does. And I hope OTA official Nougat fixes it.. because the ram management is sooo broken
Could someone let me know what the default Mediapad M3 apps are on Emui 5 (BTV-DL09)?
I just got the tablet yesterday and it was on Emui 4. There was no OTA so I used Firmware Finder to upgrade to Nougat and Emui 5. When I tried to change themes the default HWThemeManager is missing - I'm wondering what else might be missing?
The HW apps I have are:
calculator
camera
contacts
dialler
email
files
gallery
hicare
higame
messaging
system update
tablet manager
videos
weather
And Bluetooth isn't working, I've seen a few posts online where it's the same for some, but no real 'fix'. I'm considering downgrading to Android 6, but the 10 mins i was on Emui 4 I don't think i liked it
ALL FIXED: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m3/help/how-fixed-various-problems-bluetooth-t3740675