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hello,
first of all let me thank you for a brilliant forum. I was looking for a forum with loads of information on pocket pc phones and i guess i found you guys.
Okay I'm a total newbie and I need help with choosing between three phones and i'm extremely confused as to what i should choose.
I'm with orange and they are offering me:-
1. NOKIA N95 (Not the black edition, but does come with 8gb) - Has all the features, but i've heard these are very buggy and slow
2. TYTN II - Has all the features that i need, except the keypad is eithier virtual or i have to pull out the keyboard to make calls, which is a NO NO
3. TOUCH DUAL - Now this phone is the dream i was wishing for..i.e there is a keypad which exists, allowing me to quickly make calls, but then it has NO GPS and NO WI-FI .
My problem is that all phones have their advantages and disadvantages and therefore make it difficult for me to choose. Here is what i'm looking for:-
1. The phone must have a hard keypad (Not a keyboard or virtual keypad) to make immediate calls.
2. GPS is not immediately needed, but i hope that i can add it in the near future
3. WI-FI again is not urgently needed, but i hope that it can be added later in future
4. The phone software must be very adaptable software wise
5. Must be unlockable to all networks
6. Needs to have a decent battery life
I especially want to know about the Touch Dual..can this give me what i need?
2 & 3, u'd better assume a "no" in touch dual forever. if finally a brilliant brain solves it, it's a bonus. better not assume you can get it in "near future". meanwhile, you may have interest on this thread
4. Windows Mobile is an open platform that allows installation of the millions of programs in the market. meanwhile, pls be prepared that "soft reset" is unavoidable for the M$ product, just like reboot upon "blue screen" in win98.
5. see this
6. it's very dependent on personal habit. e.g. how many phone calls a day? how much data connection? how much online/offline content browsing? how much game playing? the word "decent" is very subjective as well. in general, if you work in office for most of time, it's not a worry at all, as you can easily recharge your WM devices from a pc using a standard usb cable.
hope this helps
many thanks pp18 your reply has been very helpful.
I use the phone 90% of the time to make outgoing calls..so battery life is fairly important
Regarding GPS...for the time being, can Touch dual work with a GPS receiver?
if you're very worried about the battery life, you can always bring a spare battery with you. can't share much on this, as it's always easy for me to find a usb cable to charge up my device even i forget to do it the night before.
re gps, yes you can use an external gps module and let it communicate with touch dual through bluetooth. you may have interest on this.
hi pp18.
I rang orange yesterday and after having a long chat with them, they backed off the n95 and tytn II as they said that the person who offered the mobiles made a mistake. I only had a choice between a nokia 6500 classic/slide or the Touch Dual II. Hope i made the right choice as i chose the Touch Dual II.
I thank you for helping me with all these questions and definately have interest in using an external gps receiver.
As a total newbie and after reading your links, can you clarify the following questions i have please? :-
1. If i use the recommended GPS receiver with the t-dual, is it as accurate and speedy & reliable as a general tomtom device would be? What i'm trying to say is that are there any known issues with GPS receivers and a phone? For example does the phone regularly lose signal and can't tell where i'm going.
2. Can i install tomtom software on it?
3. From your experience, has the guy who charges £5 to unlock this mobile, messed up anyone's phone?
4. I live in an urban area...Is it true that this phone has serious signal issues?
5. Lastly i have heard that the orange installed software is slow, drains the battery and unreliable. How difficult is it for a novice like myself to install a new rom that is faster and better than orange? Also what is the best/reliable rom going at the moment?
Many thanks for your very helpful info.
regards
newbiefone
in general, bluetooth communication between an external gps module and a WM device shouldn't be a problem. for details and specific to your area, i suggest you ask in the Niki Accessories forum so that your neighbours can offer better help.
for flashing cooked rom, i personally not recommend it to newbies, as the worst case for a wrong operation is "brick" the device. and, a device with cooked rom will void the warranty as well. you'd better find a friend to help. for choice of rom, suggest you read the great articles in the Niki Upgrading forum.
i had pretty much the same options as you. and i went with the touch dual. it kind of puts a dampner on it not having gps or wifi inbuilt like the other 2, but wifi isnt really that big of a deal, internet surfing on a phone screen is pretty worthless - if need be i just use gprs, its fine for my needs (i bearly ever used wifi on my old tornado). i already had a bluetooth gps reciver so gps isnt a problem, i just leave it in my car.
the touch dual is by far the most attractive out of the 3. the only thing i dislike is the camera, its not as good as the n95s. and i'd love tv out like the n95 has. i wouldnt want a tytn ii though. they're bulky and heavy and there is no need for all the extra weight just for gps and wifi.
thanks pp18 and ducamie.
From what you guys have told me so far, it sounds like i've made the right choice. Would you kindly help me with my remaining questions:-
2. Can i install tomtom software on it?
3. From your experience, has the guy who charges £5 to unlock this mobile, messed up anyone's phone?
4. I live in an urban area...Is it true that this phone has serious signal issues?
Thanks So Much!!!
tomtom installs great.. version 6 is pretty awesome with touch screen.
if you need it unlocking, i'd deffinatley use olipro's simunlock, its £5, its very safe, and your only other option is to pay £20 at imei check. with olipro's it cid unlocks your phone too. i wish he'd brought it out sooner.
ive never had problems with signal, its always been fine, if youre living in an urban area i wouldnt worry about it.
thanks so much ducamie!!! i look forward to seeing my phone.
Btw, do you have an orange dual? If so, have you updated it with another rom or have you left it as it is?
hey. yeah, got an orange branded niki.
i flashed tom_codon's rom after flashing the hardspl to get rid of the orange stuff on the phone more than anything but its a good rom generally, i'd upgrade it if i were you (once youre familiar with what youre doing ofcourse). might aswell.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364335
There is the possibility to make a radio version of Pharos that has wifi enabled?
This is an excellent device, but there isn't the wifi...
I hope that my proposal will be considered
Ya it is an excellent device abd please prof or tom consider and built up a radio for pharos including wifi.........please we r eagerly waiting for that thankyou
Dear users , in order for the phone to have wifi it needs a hardware part , that htc p3470 doesn't have .... so no software can enable a component that a device dosen't have
Good idea, but the WiFi hardware is absent on the device, just don't know how a new radio can provide the function...
Or I'm just so out?
You're so out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400361&highlight=pharos+wifi
To be honest, I dont know if the hardware is intentionally left out.
But since its a standard feature/option in most OMAP 850 versions it would seem at least very possible that its in! But disabled.
Again I dont know if its in, but I assume it is, read the tech specs for yourself!
I was planning to flas an artemis rom, that didnt work (no htccert, but fixing that is doable) but Im kinda scared of bricking my beloved Pharos.. I dont have a spare. bmd19 do you work for HTC? or were you involved in the design of the Pharos? or maybe you work for TI and have knowledge of the parts HTC ordered for the manufacture of the Pharos? How can you say what is and isnt present in a pda? did you know that HTC disabled GPS in the kaiser?
regards
I have no clue of what design there is on the TI-chip in pharos, or any other device. But the most logic thing, is that the wifi-abilities are a seperate chip on the mainboard, with an antenna and the wifi-controller.
This could however be integrated into the TI OMAP850 chip, but that seems unlikely. But there is an possibility. Is there anyone that knows that the wifi-controller is integrated in the OMAP850 chip? If not, cant we just pry the pharos open and look for the antenna/controller? There may not be an antenna as on the other devices, because the pharos was not intended to have wifi, so they could have dropped the antenna.
If the wifi-capabilities IS on the omap850 chip, I know there is a way to enable it. Its just that i dont know how... And it may take a lot to figure it out.
According to this map, there is an wifi-option that HTC may have included. However, that is unlikely. The WiLink-part that is outside the OMAP850 square is essential to wifi-capabilities on the device.
http://mobinav.free.fr/?p=72
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...ateId=6123&navigationId=12661&contentId=15402
oh im drunk at this point... please dont comment this reply.
My Pharos, if you go into \windows and scroll down, it has some WiFi icons, one of which i select, it then takes me to step thru wifi setup.
I have not yet tried setting this up, and i don't have any links to wifi in start menu, and it is there, but kinda shadowed, not available, in comm manager.
I thought, maybe, if i put in the settings, then maybe switch it on, the menus may then recognise and display it.
after looking thru the windows folder like 20 times
i found the wireless lan but how do i put it on??
some help would be appreciated!!!!(A)
(A)i always think before i do something stupid(A)
i have just send an email to HTC about the wifi support,
i hope they will help us with the connection.
if i receive an email i will reply it on this website,
and if one of u found the solution please send it to me @ [email protected]
Greeting and good luck
(A)i always think before i do something stupid(A)
sorry for my English. got some info? Pharos is the ability to have wifi working. greet.
No. Pharos doesn't have hardware for WIFI, only bluetooth.
There is now way to gain access to wifi with it.
Hello.
(sorry for my english)
I'm looking for a software that can detect the activity of other mobile phones near the mine (HTC Diamond).
I want to see if people use their phone in a place where it is totaly forbidden for security reasons. (exams for exemple)
Thank you in advance.
(no wifi and bluetooth ... SMS and Vocal )
darkatis said:
Hello.
(sorry for my english)
I'm looking for a software that can detect the activity of other mobile phones near the mine (HTC Diamond).
I want to see if people use their phone in a place where it is totaly forbidden for security reasons. (exams for exemple)
Thank you in advance.
(no wifi and bluetooth ... SMS and Vocal )
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...we won't tell you -> you are a teacher ;-)
Just kidding; I don't know such a software or tool
and ... no, i am not a teacher, and not a cop too
This sort of software is hard if not impossible if not illegal to make with the tools at our disposal.
I would contact the KGB, they may have something of that nature.
hitenpatel227 said:
I would contact the KGB, they may have something of that nature.
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i just talked to the KGB and they told me that we have to stop talking about this NOW
kgb is now dead, if any1 have this then is the mossad for sure ^^
iRiKi said:
kgb is now dead, if any1 have this then is the mossad for sure ^^
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It wasn't us, as the director I never signed for such a thing... MI5?
So you would be the first to use it in the "forbidden place" to snoop on others? Funny request, but surely for someone who needs to know this kind of info "for security reasons" would be able to afford a good programmer to do such a program.
darkatis said:
Hello.
(sorry for my english)
I'm looking for a software that can detect the activity of other mobile phones near the mine (HTC Diamond).
I want to see if people use their phone in a place where it is totaly forbidden for security reasons. (exams for exemple)
Thank you in advance.
(no wifi and bluetooth ... SMS and Vocal )
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So you would be the first to use it in the "forbidden place" to snoop on others? Funny request, but surely for someone who needs to know this kind of info "for security reasons" would be able to afford a good programmer to do such a program. Well I got a laugh out of this thread. Thank you guys for the great sense of humor.
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i have wrote "security reasons" because my english is very light, and it's more easy to say that for me.
So... no we dont have good programmer, and we dont have unlimited money for pourchase one.
i know many wifi-snifer, blutooth snifer ... so i try to find a "gsm" detector ...
i know that some cell phone can make vocal transmission without provider, si they are in the same aera.
if you want to joke about my request, you can ...
i just try to find a solution to a (small) problem we have with my work : people using phone in forbidden place.
good luck with fbi, mi5 and cia.
Now i dont think that it is possible, but i dont understand why people find this request so funny?
There are plenty of tools that measure radiation. The radiation of a phone in use should be much higher than one not in use or one using bluetooth. Not sure about wifi though...
Anyway, to have this type of measurement in the phone is maybe hard/impossible to develop given the way phones are built. But the idea of something measuring radiation is nothing new and these devices can be bought at many places (most for corporate or media usage). Now if you could just set the frequecy to monitor and a specified minimum threshold you should be there
But as previously mentioned... dont know if this is actually possible to do with a phone.
Heliosjiee said:
This sort of software is hard if not impossible if not illegal to make with the tools at our disposal.
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thanks for this no-joke answer
i know that this is hard. (not illegal)
but no victoiry without try.
darkatis said:
thanks for this no-joke answer
i know that this is hard. (not illegal)
but no victoiry without try.
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while this is very possible depending on the extent of the intend program this could be VERY illegal considering that the US goverment(idk about laws in other countries) got in trouble for monitoring phone calls.
If the program was meant to only detect GSM activity it is probable possible but at the same time there would be no accurate way to determine if the active phone was in your room or down the hall unless you knew which phone was where and what its info was. But in doing that im pretty sure you have already breakin a few laws lol.
If you are worried about phone activity im fairly positive there are phone jammers which block phone calls for a certain distance around the device. Though i do not know the laws around this.
I don't know how you'd do it with the phone...but there are DIY circuits that you can find online to make one with a 555 timer chip and a few resistors and capacitors. I did the same thing as a final project for an electronics class I took last year.
Just google "Cell Phone Call Detector circuit". It lights up an LED when it detects a call.
hello!
i don't know of a program to use with your phone, but i did a quick search on the net and found this for example: http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/detector.htm
maybe that can help you?
Here is your solution:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4355
and here is one for GPS:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8758
try to use a big speaker so you can hear if somebody uses the telephone
Well...
this is not really the thing you need.
Proof of GSM usage around you cannot be provided to 3rd party (your device). The reason is hidden in the GSM1.1 standard.
To monitor the activity of the radio devices surrounding you you should need to download statistics from the closest BTS units which is actually hard enough and the Diamond's CPU is not able to break the provider encryption in realtime (trust me. i've tried it hard enough
Back in the days we faced similar problem. From the other side, I was the student
The principal of our high school designed an emitter of 900/1800MHz signal and had it equipped with a clocking device. For that reason we could not use our cell phones during class... for two days (yeah, nothing is impossible!)
The question you should ask is. Do I want to monitor cellular activity or I need to ban the usage of mobile devices in the range of XY meters around me.
If the answer of the second question is positive jut get a pal of yours who knows something about solidering and within a few dolars you have the item you need.
Hi guys,
to make figuring out what works and what doesn't for internet sharing in mango easier, those who have tried this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238519
Please leave a comment below Thanks.
I've been looking at this, but haven't had the chance to attempt it yet.... looks like more than a quick evening fix, but I might attempt it this weekend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233612
Although both post have the same warning:
This version has limited LG support!! We are still investigating better support for LG devices. Any help is highly appreciated.
Regards,
Could anybody make any review of this thread in area of LG smartphones? Whole thread has 50 pages and its hard to find something interesting about LG.
Sure. LG has yet to push drivers that support it for E900. Presumably the story is the same for the other one as well.
Arktronic made an interesting attempt at using Samsung's drivers, but no dice yet.
If you are daring enough, flash a Mango Vodafone UK ROM. It comes with Internet Sharing enabled and Hidden Wi-Fi. Sad thing is you will lose ALL your data. Did that and I have Internet Sharing.
Hello,
I'm new to the forum, and having a real hard time identifying what is, and isn't possible regarding hardware manipulation. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note5 SM-N9208, which originated in Taiwan. I am on T-Mobile in the U.S., and I would like to make this device fully compatible with T-MOBILE's network. I am new to rooting, and flashing, so I don't have a strong enough understanding of the capabilities of such things. I was led to believe that it was possible to root, unlock the bootloader, change the CID, and flash the radio to the correct baseband/firmware (sorry if this sounds ridiculous). I have heard, however, that the different models will not accept firmware from different models. I don't understand what prohibits this activity, because the internals seem to all be the same. If anyone can explain this to me, or provide me with a way to accomplish this, if possible, I would be incredibly grateful.
Bootloader signing... do not crossflash. I did and now I'm buying a new logic board.
The latest DFS lets you change the frequency/band a la atheros wifi card + athtool... menu will let you pick bands and write to the phone. That is the only thing I saw besides changing bands from the programming menu.
Well hardware is not limiting you. Its the software. Some of the things just cant be done ex you can run .exe on windows directly but not .apk bcoz apk for android and .exe for winndows. Similarly some of flashing and apps and mod wont work unless they are compatible. Sometimes a mobile has different models which has a little difference but it makes things large. Ex. My mom's grand 2 is SM-G7102 but there is another version SM-G7108 both have identical physique , same circuit but software has +/- additional features. I guess u got it. This is marketing technique. Dont lose hope. You can succeed just gain a little more knowledge. Im 17 nd ive gained knowledge by self exploration. Keep it up. If there is any problem ask other XDA membera