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Well it look like whenever I go outside US (Mexico) Play Books, Play Movies, and Google Wallet will vanish from my homescreen and will not be available just like the Play Store services(but I already expected that) but if I go with a file manager they are still there but somewhat Google disables them...how can I restore them I really want to see my bought movies...I already tried using a VPN to make them available but only the Google Play Store services will return and install them manually doesn't work either...Please help
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*GalaxyDev* said:
Well it look like whenever I go outside US (Mexico) Play Books, Play Movies, and Google Wallet will vanish from my homescreen and will not be available just like the Play Store services(but I already expected that) but if I go with a file manager they are still there but somewhat Google disables them...how can I restore them I really want to see my bought movies...I already tried using a VPN to make them available but only the Google Play Store services will return and install them manually doesn't work either...Please help
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1. Root -> a lot easier
2. Use VPN -> try DroidVPN
3. Use Titanium Backup -> defrost those apps (or use patched Wallet, for example)
U can use orbot too in the play store. I use that to get apps to work over here in germany
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Often ROM's instruct you to install the gapps package (http://goo.im/gapps ), which adds a collection of Google Apps. I'm often surprised that more people don't know, even sometimes Rom Developers themselves, that you don't always need them.
In fact not installing them, saves not only space, but ram & cpu usage. You end up with a faster device. Everything you need is already added in almost every standard Rom (including Chameleon OS for example).
For example, checking Gmail. You don't need Gmail App. The normal e-mail program that comes with Android already supports Gmail (and other e-mail providers).
You also don't need Google Search. The stock browser already uses it when you search. You save about 20 MB Ram (sometimes more, depending on which Rom you use), by not having Search on the desktop.
About the only con (drawback) is if you're flashing a phone, you're going to want or need gapps as that includes the voice commands (if I recall correctly). But if that's something you feel you can live without or don't need (because you have a tablet or maybe you don't use them on your phone), then not installing gapps can make things easier.
So do you install gapps (Google Apps)?
Actually, for some custom roms, in order for all the features to work, you need to flash Gapps. But for most you dont need. I have never had any bad things from flashing or not flahsing. But i always do flash so i can sync my purchases and apps.
I never flash the Gapps packages for any ROM I use. I only will add the Google Play Store, Google Services Framework and the Account Manager (for JB). All those Google apps are pointless and like stated earlier, will bog down the battery life and performance. Usually I will freeze the Play Store and such when not using them.
Its quite easy to put the required apps in the /system/app folder, set permissions correctly and reboot to get ONLY the Google Play Store. Of course you will need a root explorer like app to do this.
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I never flash the Gapps packages for any ROM I use. I only will add the Google Play Store, Google Services Framework and the Account Manager (for JB). All those Google apps are pointless and like stated earlier, will bog down the battery life and performance. Usually I will freeze the Play Store and such when not using them.
Its quite easy to put the required apps in the /system/app folder, set permissions correctly and reboot to get ONLY the Google Play Store. Of course you will need a root explorer like app to do this.
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Every ROM I've ever used had Google Play already installed. I believe Framework and Account Manager are already inside as well. So I've not needed to track down the actual app for it.
Socially Uncensored said:
Every ROM I've ever used had Google Play already installed. I believe Framework and Account Manager are already inside as well. So I've not needed to track down the actual app for it.
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Sometimes I'll get lucky and the Play Store is preloaded like SBlood's CM7. I usually use twa_priv's ROMs as my primaries in which I most always have to add Google Play, except I think the latest release (4-19-13), I believe that had it built in.
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Sometimes I'll get lucky and the Play Store is preloaded like SBlood's CM7. I usually use twa_priv's ROMs as my primaries in which I most always have to add Google Play, except I think the latest release (4-19-13), I believe that had it built in.
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Google Play store updates its self. So no matter which version you installed, it will be current sooner rather than later.
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Google Play store updates its self. So no matter which version you installed, it will be current sooner rather than later.
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I am well aware of that but thanks for mentioning it as maybe it will enlighten other users
I use this Gapps package. It is light apps and RAM usage.
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I think some of you have misunderstood the Gapps.
AFAIK, every AOSP-based ROM will have separate Gapps. Some REQUIRED, some not. You can choose to install or not. NOTE: if you won't install Gapps, you WON'T get Google Play.
Or connection to google services. If you do not flash Google Apps, you get nothing google (beside the software) so your wifi signal, will always be grey, instead of that nice blue. Thats the reason why i flash, that grey bugs me, I only want the blue colour(;
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I think some of you have misunderstood the Gapps.
AFAIK, every AOSP-based ROM will have separate Gapps. Some REQUIRED, some not. You can choose to install or not. NOTE: if you won't install Gapps, you WON'T get Google Play.
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That's not true or at least its not try with the ROMs I use. Google's app store is there without me having to add all the extras that come with Gapps
tobiascuypers said:
Or connection to google services. If you do not flash Google Apps, you get nothing google (beside the software) so your wifi signal, will always be grey, instead of that nice blue. Thats the reason why i flash, that grey bugs me, I only want the blue colour(;
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Also not true. I have a nice Wifi signal without Gapps. I also connect to my Gmail using the stock e-mail problem.
This was posted using the stock browser without gapps installed.
Well, seeing this thread, I've tried freezing several system apps on my devices. After freezing backupconfirm and sharebackup, apps seems to open up faster and the device snappier..
I used to install gapps every time, now I usually dont. I like the email app in JB a lot better than the gmail app. Usually install the play store and maps
I like the maps and play store hate the gmail
I find that installing gapps, especially Google play services causes more bugs
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Had no idea!!!!!!!!!
hey guys,thanks for this post i was under the impression I HAD NO OTHER CHOICE...every time i have asked this in a specific rom ...always told to read the beginning of the 1st post on how to install before i post.....maybe wasnt making myself clear..thanks for answering my question...time to experiment !!!!!!!! :good::good::good::good:
Does anyone know exactly what Google flavored apps are required for the just the Play Store to function properly?
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I install gapps everytime because I am always getting new apps. It is interesting to hear that it isn't needed and can make things snappier if you don't need to download new apps.
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I install gapps everytime because I am always getting new apps. It is interesting to hear that it isn't needed and can make things snappier if you don't need to download new apps.
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I want to know exactly which ones are absolutely necessary so I can either remove or freeze the ones I don't need. I'm all about battery life and performance
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Hi all!
As always, I will start with the disclaimer that I am legally blind, and that I attempted to see if this issue was already addressed recently, but I have trouble navigating the forums.
I am a fairly competent Android user, but I am by no means an expert. I am just totally lost on this issue. I have the Galaxy Note 4 (T-Mobile variety) and am running the most recent firmware. I am rooted with a vanilla setup.
The phone has been working wonderfully, but after trying to download the Dungeon Hunter 4 game, suddenly the Play Store crashed. Since then, any time I attempt to download Dungeon Hunter 4, the store crashes and loops the "Unfortunately, Google Play Store has stopped working." Other apps seem to be downloading just fine, oddly enough.
I did the usual measures: cleared cache and data for Play Store, Play Services, and Download Manager. Alas, it was to no avail. I also removed and re-added my Google account, too. It fixes the crash quite effectively *UNTIL* I attempt to download DH4. (Gameloft customer service leaves a lot to be desired - I submitted a support ticket a week ago!)
If anyone has any thoughts on the issue, I'd be immensely happy - - thanks guys!
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Hi all!
As always, I will start with the disclaimer that I am legally blind, and that I attempted to see if this issue was already addressed recently, but I have trouble navigating the forums.
I am a fairly competent Android user, but I am by no means an expert. I am just totally lost on this issue. I have the Galaxy Note 4 (T-Mobile variety) and am running the most recent firmware. I am rooted with a vanilla setup.
The phone has been working wonderfully, but after trying to download the Dungeon Hunter 4 game, suddenly the Play Store crashed. Since then, any time I attempt to download Dungeon Hunter 4, the store crashes and loops the "Unfortunately, Google Play Store has stopped working." Other apps seem to be downloading just fine, oddly enough.
I did the usual measures: cleared cache and data for Play Store, Play Services, and Download Manager. Alas, it was to no avail. I also removed and re-added my Google account, too. It fixes the crash quite effectively *UNTIL* I attempt to download DH4. (Gameloft customer service leaves a lot to be desired - I submitted a support ticket a week ago!)
If anyone has any thoughts on the issue, I'd be immensely happy - - thanks guys!
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Hi ,
if you are rooted did you install..... XPOSED FRAMEWORK ?
if so , then its most probably your cause.( i had similar experience a while back with Play store apps etc )
Your options are to either install fix /patch ..XSecureStorage( module for Xposed )
http://repo.xposed.info/module/ma.wanam.xshealth
it fixes Shealth ,Private mode ,some lag and also this Play store issues .
good luck
You could try installing from the play store on your pc. It should get pushed directly to your phone.
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Thanks so much! It was indeed the Xposed module (as best I can tell.) I went through them, one at a time, and re-updated them manually. I'm most grateful for the input! :thumbup:
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JagDave said:
You could try installing from the play store on your pc. It should get pushed directly to your phone.
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Thanks for your input! I went ahead and sideloaded the Google Play Store as an APK file, just for good measure, and I have experienced no more issues.
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JagDave said:
You could try installing from the play store on your pc. It should get pushed directly to your phone.
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Hi Jag,
I know that I said some time ago that the issue seemed to resolve itself, which it did...for a while. I know this thread is a bit stale now, but I felt that it would just be redundant and discourteous to start a second thread. At any rate, it's doing the same thing again, despite me having disabled/removed all Xposed modules for the time being, uninstalling Play Store updates, clearing Play Store and Frameworks cache/data, trying the newest version of Play Store, and then re-trying your suggestion of having the web version of the Play Store push the app straight to my phone. It doesn't happen with all apps, only certain ones. The game developers for both games are very advanced firms and tried to assist me through a help ticket, to no avail. I am going crazy -- does anyone have any other ideas? My sanity rests in your hands, O' wise denizens of XDA...
I purchased an app off the market to use on my phone. Does anyone know a way to install a paid app on the nexus player running lolirock?
My phone isn't rooted so I can't pull the apk from my phone.... =/
Of course you can, use APK Share from KN Inc (Play Store).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kayan.nurav.apkshare&hl=en
brandogg said:
Of course you can, use APK Share from KN Inc (Play Store).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kayan.nurav.apkshare&hl=en
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Oh wow, that's awesome! I didn't realize I could get an apk of a purchased app without root.
Thanks brandogg!
Just trying to do my part. I have Google Drive on my ADT-1, I just use "share" on the KN app and it's available within a few seconds or so. Bear in mind there will still be a handful of apps that don't work.
Also, you're probably already aware of this, but in your web browser (even on Chrome on the Nexus Player or ADT-1) you can go to play.google.com/store and search for apps then choose which device to send it to from there. There are quite a few apps that are completely compatible with the Android TV devices, they just don't show up in the Play Store app (probably because they don't have all the appropriate icon packs, etc). Saves a little bit of time that way.
I am running FireOS 4.5.3 on Fire HDX 7" and it is not (and never has been) rooted.
Settings > Applications > Apps from unknown sources is On
I have the file manager with zip support installed.
Uninstall any versions of the 5 apks mentioned below.
Download this zip file:
https://mega.co.nz/#!OItCnSSA!VqBqlbwUa3h5VR0bmIXmRVBq4UeYo5bhBmzmflml3Vk
Open or extract it and install the apks in this order:
account manager 4.0.3
framework 4.0.4
play services 7.3.29
playstore 4.3.10
youtube 10.16.53
Reboot the tablet.
Go to youtube and you should get that normal google account login screen.
Login and presto! There you have it latest youtube apk with sign in ability.
Hasn't crashed on me (yet), but play store does not work (I've tried a few versions).
Yes I am aware of that youtube app with the blue icon in the amazon app store but I wasn't satisfied with it.
I haven't tried any other google apps yet with this combo.
I really hope this works for others. I just spent the last 5-6 hours figuring this out and it's now nearly 2am.
works for me
Youtube works.
Not for playstore gmail.
Oh that's cool I'm glad it's worked for others.
I just wanted to give something back to this forum cause I've gone to it so many times myself.
Found a gmail apk that works
Don't want to burst your bubble, but someone already figured out how to get YouTube to work on unrooted devices (along with other Google apps): http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/themes-apps/how-to-install-gapps-root-t2954372
Yes true but that guy (at end of thread) is 4.5.2 and has to execute some kinda command I don't. Lemme have my glory! Lol
Thanks. Works for me. How about Chrome?
kkcheong said:
Thanks. Works for me. How about Chrome?
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Chrome should work regardless of framework (at least it did last time I tried). If not try Opera. Same underlying engine (Chromium) with a different skin.
mrw187 said:
Yes true but that guy (at end of thread) is 4.5.2 and has to execute some kinda command I don't. Lemme have my glory! Lol
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That command is for Google+ to work. It's not needed if you don't use G+. But at least you provided newer versions.
Is it just me, or does doing this break other apps? Skype won't work properly (no contacts or message history), TuneIn radio won't even get past the initial screen. Why is this happening? Sorry I'm new to this stuff.
I should add that uninstalling these packages then causes everything to work again, so it does seem to be causing it.
Burr11 said:
Is it just me, or does doing this break other apps? Skype won't work properly (no contacts or message history), TuneIn radio won't even get past the initial screen. Why is this happening? Sorry I'm new to this stuff.
I should add that uninstalling these packages then causes everything to work again, so it does seem to be causing it.
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Installing Google framework/services/store/etc on Fire OS is always a crap shoot as Amazon has its own set of conflicting services. Many get it to work (at least partially) while others experience problems. Installing framework/services on an unrooted device presents additional challenges....but also adds a layer of safety as you can typically install/experiment/uninstall without serious consequences. Unfortunately, I don't have an answer to your current situation; responding to "why is this happening?". You'll probably get it to work eventually with help from others.
That makes sense. I did manage to get Skype 5.1 working but anything after that breaks. Must have added a new feature since then that gets into that services conflict you mention. No luck with TuneIn, though I found an alternative for that.
Any word on a working play store app? Wife got a Fire Tablet today on 4.5.3 and so far its unrootable and most google things arent working. Thinking about a new tablet at this point.
myke66 said:
Any word on a working play store app? Wife got a Fire Tablet today on 4.5.3 and so far its unrootable and most google things arent working. Thinking about a new tablet at this point.
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If your family is looking for unfettered access to the play store you should definitely look for another device. It will be awhile before alternative roms become available to newer Kindles and most play store implementations are hacks at best. While the hardware is wonderful you really have to be wed to the Amazon ecosystem to truly appreciate the device (or be fortunate enough to have an 'older' model that can be rooted/unlocked and run a Google friendly rom).
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If your family is looking for unfettered access to the play store you should definitely look for another device. It will be awhile before alternative roms become available to newer Kindles and most play store implementations are hacks at best. While the hardware is wonderful you really have to be wed to the Amazon ecosystem to truly appreciate the device (or be fortunate enough to have an 'older' model that can be rooted/unlocked and run a Google friendly rom).
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I appreciate the frank reply. I was able to set her up with Chrome and Gmail which were her main concerns. The 1Mobile 3rd party marketplace had any of the other apps she was looking for. I also finished moving all her books over so she's going to take it for a spin this weekend when we head to the beach for a night and see how it goes.
myke66 said:
I appreciate the frank reply. I was able to set her up with Chrome and Gmail which were her main concerns. The 1Mobile 3rd party marketplace had any of the other apps she was looking for. I also finished moving all her books over so she's going to take it for a spin this weekend when we head to the beach for a night and see how it goes.
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If you are comfortable with 1moble (one of my favorite 'alternative' marketplaces) then many of the shortcomings inherent with the Amazon store can be mitigated. Chrome (more often Gmail) can get fussy without google services/framework. Opera is a nice alternative that utilizes the same core engine as Chrome. Gmail is a little tougher to directly emulate; plenty of alternatives if the Gmail app coughs up a fur ball (I happen to like Aquamail). You really don't need root but if you choose to do so Xposed framework adds a few nice touches that can further tame an HDX without compromising native functionality.
Hope it works out for you folks.
You can run Google services framework without root. People have been having issues with the newer builds however. If it does not work for you, try build version 7.0.99.
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You can run Google services framework without root. People have been having issues with the newer builds however. If it does not work for you, try build version 7.0.99.
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That will work for now (thanks @lekofraggle for the tip) but be aware Google is quickly adapting apps to leverage capabilities introduced in newer builds of services framework. For now that appears confined to Maps and Google Now (eg: card features) and primarly targets Lollipop.
You are welcome. I know about the impending issue with Google play services. Hopefully they fix the issues soon. Google maps works for now but complains.
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