Often ROM's instruct you to install the gapps package (http://goo.im/gapps ), which adds a collection of Google Apps. I'm often surprised that more people don't know, even sometimes Rom Developers themselves, that you don't always need them.
In fact not installing them, saves not only space, but ram & cpu usage. You end up with a faster device. Everything you need is already added in almost every standard Rom (including Chameleon OS for example).
For example, checking Gmail. You don't need Gmail App. The normal e-mail program that comes with Android already supports Gmail (and other e-mail providers).
You also don't need Google Search. The stock browser already uses it when you search. You save about 20 MB Ram (sometimes more, depending on which Rom you use), by not having Search on the desktop.
About the only con (drawback) is if you're flashing a phone, you're going to want or need gapps as that includes the voice commands (if I recall correctly). But if that's something you feel you can live without or don't need (because you have a tablet or maybe you don't use them on your phone), then not installing gapps can make things easier.
So do you install gapps (Google Apps)?
Actually, for some custom roms, in order for all the features to work, you need to flash Gapps. But for most you dont need. I have never had any bad things from flashing or not flahsing. But i always do flash so i can sync my purchases and apps.
I never flash the Gapps packages for any ROM I use. I only will add the Google Play Store, Google Services Framework and the Account Manager (for JB). All those Google apps are pointless and like stated earlier, will bog down the battery life and performance. Usually I will freeze the Play Store and such when not using them.
Its quite easy to put the required apps in the /system/app folder, set permissions correctly and reboot to get ONLY the Google Play Store. Of course you will need a root explorer like app to do this.
Guitarman2010 said:
I never flash the Gapps packages for any ROM I use. I only will add the Google Play Store, Google Services Framework and the Account Manager (for JB). All those Google apps are pointless and like stated earlier, will bog down the battery life and performance. Usually I will freeze the Play Store and such when not using them.
Its quite easy to put the required apps in the /system/app folder, set permissions correctly and reboot to get ONLY the Google Play Store. Of course you will need a root explorer like app to do this.
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Every ROM I've ever used had Google Play already installed. I believe Framework and Account Manager are already inside as well. So I've not needed to track down the actual app for it.
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Every ROM I've ever used had Google Play already installed. I believe Framework and Account Manager are already inside as well. So I've not needed to track down the actual app for it.
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Sometimes I'll get lucky and the Play Store is preloaded like SBlood's CM7. I usually use twa_priv's ROMs as my primaries in which I most always have to add Google Play, except I think the latest release (4-19-13), I believe that had it built in.
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Sometimes I'll get lucky and the Play Store is preloaded like SBlood's CM7. I usually use twa_priv's ROMs as my primaries in which I most always have to add Google Play, except I think the latest release (4-19-13), I believe that had it built in.
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Google Play store updates its self. So no matter which version you installed, it will be current sooner rather than later.
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Google Play store updates its self. So no matter which version you installed, it will be current sooner rather than later.
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I am well aware of that but thanks for mentioning it as maybe it will enlighten other users
I use this Gapps package. It is light apps and RAM usage.
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I think some of you have misunderstood the Gapps.
AFAIK, every AOSP-based ROM will have separate Gapps. Some REQUIRED, some not. You can choose to install or not. NOTE: if you won't install Gapps, you WON'T get Google Play.
Or connection to google services. If you do not flash Google Apps, you get nothing google (beside the software) so your wifi signal, will always be grey, instead of that nice blue. Thats the reason why i flash, that grey bugs me, I only want the blue colour(;
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I think some of you have misunderstood the Gapps.
AFAIK, every AOSP-based ROM will have separate Gapps. Some REQUIRED, some not. You can choose to install or not. NOTE: if you won't install Gapps, you WON'T get Google Play.
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That's not true or at least its not try with the ROMs I use. Google's app store is there without me having to add all the extras that come with Gapps
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Or connection to google services. If you do not flash Google Apps, you get nothing google (beside the software) so your wifi signal, will always be grey, instead of that nice blue. Thats the reason why i flash, that grey bugs me, I only want the blue colour(;
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Also not true. I have a nice Wifi signal without Gapps. I also connect to my Gmail using the stock e-mail problem.
This was posted using the stock browser without gapps installed.
Well, seeing this thread, I've tried freezing several system apps on my devices. After freezing backupconfirm and sharebackup, apps seems to open up faster and the device snappier..
I used to install gapps every time, now I usually dont. I like the email app in JB a lot better than the gmail app. Usually install the play store and maps
I like the maps and play store hate the gmail
I find that installing gapps, especially Google play services causes more bugs
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Had no idea!!!!!!!!!
hey guys,thanks for this post i was under the impression I HAD NO OTHER CHOICE...every time i have asked this in a specific rom ...always told to read the beginning of the 1st post on how to install before i post.....maybe wasnt making myself clear..thanks for answering my question...time to experiment !!!!!!!! :good::good::good::good:
Does anyone know exactly what Google flavored apps are required for the just the Play Store to function properly?
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I install gapps everytime because I am always getting new apps. It is interesting to hear that it isn't needed and can make things snappier if you don't need to download new apps.
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I install gapps everytime because I am always getting new apps. It is interesting to hear that it isn't needed and can make things snappier if you don't need to download new apps.
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I want to know exactly which ones are absolutely necessary so I can either remove or freeze the ones I don't need. I'm all about battery life and performance
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So it's finally out. What do you guys think? Is this the end of Appbrain? I loved appbrain cause I can browse the apps on the website and then just click install from there and it will automatically install on the phone. Now this can do it too!
The biggest upside to this? You can install (after you pay) "in-app" purchase app from the website. e.g. you can install the NBA League Pass from the website directly. Any other features I missed?
This is from Google themselves, not me.
https://market.android.com/
Cool. I like it.
I never really got into appbrain, because it still involved that extra step of opening the application itself.. and blah.. I think, I can't even remember. It just seemed tedious at the time to go onto the computer when it was quicker on my phone.
Then when Google does it, I'm all over it. I have been installing random applications just to install them. Why is this so awesome?!
I played with it for a while now and everything seems to be working well. I guess I can save some space by uninstalling appbrain and use this instead.
sweet jesus!
I'm like'n it...good stuff!
The automatic OTA install is working to my N1 and my Galaxy Tab now, it wasn't earlier this morning.
Works well!
With this new website comes another big change that will happen in the 3rd quarter of this year: NO MORE "LITE" version apps.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-the-market-prior-to-the-end-of-this-quarter/
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With this new website comes another big change that will happen in the 3rd quarter of this year: NO MORE "LITE" version apps.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-the-market-prior-to-the-end-of-this-quarter/
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That's actually a good thing. You download the "free" application, and then if you decide to unlock it you buy the key from within the app rather than a separate unlocker application, or having the market cluttered with 2 separate versions.
Sounds like a plan!
The in-app purchasing as a general concept I'm not a massive fan off as it has the potential to lead to nickle & diming, primarily for games, but if used responsibly it should be good.
Wow, about time. Glad to see it's finally here.
now all they need to do is let you backup your app data. I dont want to lose my angry birds scores everytime i switch roms and forget to back it up with titamium backup
Well, I don't suppose there's a way for Market Enabler to work on the website?
It lists paid apps from all over the world, but it knows your phone's carrier and will prevent installs if your country does not support it..
I guess it's back to Market Enabler on the phone.
Anyone else having trouble actually buying apps from the website? Installing free apps works like a charm, but trying to purchase and install paid apps doesn't work. I press continue and _nothing_ happens.
running CM7 nightlies and the OTA installs are not working...
According to the website, you need to be logged into GTalk, only my GTalk won't log in. GTalk also appears to be missing from the market, so the problem may be on their end...
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Doesn't work for me, it's been years and Android Market still doesn't support Google Apps accounts for Checkout. Although I can login, no devices are listed under "my devices" on market.android.com
I'm running CM7 Nightlies as well, I'm a few behind though, and I'm always logged into GTalk and the OTA's are not working for me either.
It's not working here on MM v.20. I've tried installing several apps but nothing happens on the phone end, the GTalk solution they give also doesn't help. Weird thing is they all show up on my app list as completed when none of them have actually installed.
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It's not working here on MM v.20. I've tried installing several apps but nothing happens on the phone end, the GTalk solution they give also doesn't help. Weird thing is they all show up on my app list as completed when none of them have actually installed.
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I'm having the same issue. I'm running CM6.1 kangorama's version and the install says it has worked on the website, but nothing changes on the phone itself.
I'm wondering if it has to do with it being a rooted device without a stock rom?
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I'm having the same issue. I'm running CM6.1 kangorama's version and the install says it has worked on the website, but nothing changes on the phone itself.
I'm wondering if it has to do with it being a rooted device without a stock rom?
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I'm betting that someone is going to have to create a Web App Store Enabler or something along those lines for this to work on rooted phones or phones without stock ROM's.
This is a HUGE news in my opinion. Official support for Google Play/Google Apps coming to Nook HD and HD+ soon
Barnes & Noble's press release
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20130502006907/en/Barnes-Noble-Announces-Google-Play™-NOOK®-HD
Engadget's Hands On video of the new support.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/03/...nd-nobles-nook-hd-and-hd-we-go-han/#continued
They say it will be rolling out Over-The-Air and provide access to other Google Apps such as GMail, Maps and Chrome (which is now apparently the new default browser)
I personally can't be more excited for this even though I've been running rooted OS and CM10 SD side by side ever since they became available.
Being able to access Google Play and having official support for many more apps will make HD/HD+ just that much more accessible and usable imo.
Now if only we could the the stock multitasking interface too....
UPDATE: New version number is Version 2.1.0, and you can manually download the update file from Barnes & Noble's website
Just select the Software Update link for the corresponding device and follow the instructions. (You just have to put the update file on the root of your Nook's directory)
I have no idea if it closes any of the rooting exploits, but my impression has been that since we got CWM working, we don't really have to worry about not being able to root now. Still please be cautious if you don't want to risk possibly losing the ability to root/downgrade/run custom ROMs. Just wait it out until the wise wizards of the forum figures out exactly what's going on.
That is fantastic news!! Will go and spread it now! Wow!! :good:
can't install downloaded apk apps...fail once again by B&N
I can confirm that keyboard and launchers downloaded from Play Store works as well as they did with previous "manual" installations.
There are still quite some apps that are just listed as "incompatible" from the Play Store, but having Maps and Chrome running without a fuss is great.
The paper-textured dock has been also been changed in favour of sleeker dark one, (with white icons in place of black ones now) and it seems like "white-on-white" problem is resolved too. (Might have to try out more apps though.)
I can confirm that Universal Root zip still works. Took me a while to straighten out the Play Store though. But it works too, even if you had flashed my gapps zip. May take me a while to test everything to be sure the zips still work.
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Just for kicks I unrooted, erased and deregistered before updating to be sure to have absolutley stock setup. And it's working beautifully!
I have installed all my favourite apps with no problem at all.
I seems to me like the general UI is running a bit smoother than before.
And there is widget support in the stock launcher! (Maybe that was tehre before, but I ran ADW Ex right from the start, so I ddn't explore stock that much before.)
Edit: Making one nice discovery after another! Voice search works! And Zinio works as well. I thought maybe they would have found a way to block their competition in the magazine market, but no!
asawi said:
Just for kicks I unrooted, erased and deregistered before updating to be sure to have absolutley stock setup. And it's working beautifully!
I have installed all my favourite apps with no problem at all.
I seems to me like the general UI is running a bit smoother than before.
And there is widget support in the stock launcher! (Maybe that was tehre before, but I ran ADW Ex right from the start, so I ddn't explore stock that much before.)
Edit: Making one nice discovery after another! Voice search works! And Zinio works as well. I thought maybe they would have found a way to block their competition in the magazine market, but no!
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Do you think we will be able to sideload apps and install them through file explorer apps?
Ironically, I bit the bullet and installed the CM 10 Hybrid SD Rom less than 12 hours ago (after using stock root for some time).
Part of me is hoping this configuration has some advantages over the new BN stock but I'd love to hear from people about the advantages/disadvantages of using CM10 vs. the new BN stock so I can make a firm decision about which ROM I'll use daily.
Thanks in advance.
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Do you think we will be able to sideload apps and install them through file explorer apps?
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Not right away "out of the box" as it looks. I suspect rooting will be needed to "enable unknown sources", but I'd love to be wrong. Can't test right now though.
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Do you think we will be able to sideload apps and install them through file explorer apps?
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Nope
Currently running stock with the latest update, no root. Just tried to install the amazon app store via astro and get the message that install is blocked for applications not obtained from the app store (or google play)
Tierneykev said:
Nope
Currently running stock with the latest update, no root. Just tried to install the amazon app store via astro and get the message that install is blocked for applications not obtained from the app store (or google play)
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okay so I guess this is a pointless update for me then
This is definitely an improvement: I ditched my other launcher now that I can put non-BN apps and widgets on the homescreen. But I still can't install some of my favorite apps, like Yelp. These and others are listed as incompatible.
What version of Android is the latest stock Nook HD+ running? Is it still on ICS?
That is very cool. I'm not near my Nook now but I hope with this new version it will now show apps loaded from play store in the app drawer as well as in the recent apps?
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jm9843 said:
What version of Android is the latest stock Nook HD+ running? Is it still on ICS?
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Yes, still 4.0.4
kunchers said:
I still can't install some of my favorite apps, like Yelp. These and others are listed as incompatible.
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It may be due to missing hardware features. They have added network location provider to this new release so many apps that need location are now compatible but other missing hardware like GPS or camera may still rule out many apps. GPS location can be added via patch, many apps claim to need it.
Yeah, I noticed the new location features in the update and was hoping that it would make apps like Yelp compatible. You mentioned a patch for GPS?
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Yes, still 4.0.4
It may be due to missing hardware features. They have added network location provider to this new release so many apps that need location are now compatible but other missing hardware like GPS or camera may still rule out many apps. GPS location can be added via patch, many apps claim to need it.
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Yeah, I noticed the new location features in the update and was hoping that it would make apps like Yelp compatible. You mentioned a patch for GPS?
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Yes, it is included in leapinlar's location services rev 1 patch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 it adds android.hardware.location.gps.xml to device hardware features (and with bluetooth gps and Bluetooth GPS app it even works inside apps).
Not sure if Yelp specifically needs GPS though.
So we have "Official" support for installing the kindle app on our nooks now.
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Might be worth checking out -- thanks!
fanoush said:
Yes, it is included in leapinlar's location services rev 1 patch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 it adds android.hardware.location.gps.xml to device hardware features (and with bluetooth gps and Bluetooth GPS app it even works inside apps).
Not sure if Yelp specifically needs GPS though.
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xdatoast said:
Ironically, I bit the bullet and installed the CM 10 Hybrid SD Rom less than 12 hours ago (after using stock root for some time).
Part of me is hoping this configuration has some advantages over the new BN stock but I'd love to hear from people about the advantages/disadvantages of using CM10 vs. the new BN stock so I can make a firm decision about which ROM I'll use daily.
Thanks in advance.
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I haven't tried new stock yet, but the things that kept me going back to CM10 even after I had stock rooted and Play installed were the ICS/Jellybean recent apps display and the incompatibility of some apps. If they let launchers override the native notification bar, on-screen buttons and recent apps, I'd probably run straight stock.
I am running FireOS 4.5.3 on Fire HDX 7" and it is not (and never has been) rooted.
Settings > Applications > Apps from unknown sources is On
I have the file manager with zip support installed.
Uninstall any versions of the 5 apks mentioned below.
Download this zip file:
https://mega.co.nz/#!OItCnSSA!VqBqlbwUa3h5VR0bmIXmRVBq4UeYo5bhBmzmflml3Vk
Open or extract it and install the apks in this order:
account manager 4.0.3
framework 4.0.4
play services 7.3.29
playstore 4.3.10
youtube 10.16.53
Reboot the tablet.
Go to youtube and you should get that normal google account login screen.
Login and presto! There you have it latest youtube apk with sign in ability.
Hasn't crashed on me (yet), but play store does not work (I've tried a few versions).
Yes I am aware of that youtube app with the blue icon in the amazon app store but I wasn't satisfied with it.
I haven't tried any other google apps yet with this combo.
I really hope this works for others. I just spent the last 5-6 hours figuring this out and it's now nearly 2am.
works for me
Youtube works.
Not for playstore gmail.
Oh that's cool I'm glad it's worked for others.
I just wanted to give something back to this forum cause I've gone to it so many times myself.
Found a gmail apk that works
Don't want to burst your bubble, but someone already figured out how to get YouTube to work on unrooted devices (along with other Google apps): http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/themes-apps/how-to-install-gapps-root-t2954372
Yes true but that guy (at end of thread) is 4.5.2 and has to execute some kinda command I don't. Lemme have my glory! Lol
Thanks. Works for me. How about Chrome?
kkcheong said:
Thanks. Works for me. How about Chrome?
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Chrome should work regardless of framework (at least it did last time I tried). If not try Opera. Same underlying engine (Chromium) with a different skin.
mrw187 said:
Yes true but that guy (at end of thread) is 4.5.2 and has to execute some kinda command I don't. Lemme have my glory! Lol
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That command is for Google+ to work. It's not needed if you don't use G+. But at least you provided newer versions.
Is it just me, or does doing this break other apps? Skype won't work properly (no contacts or message history), TuneIn radio won't even get past the initial screen. Why is this happening? Sorry I'm new to this stuff.
I should add that uninstalling these packages then causes everything to work again, so it does seem to be causing it.
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Is it just me, or does doing this break other apps? Skype won't work properly (no contacts or message history), TuneIn radio won't even get past the initial screen. Why is this happening? Sorry I'm new to this stuff.
I should add that uninstalling these packages then causes everything to work again, so it does seem to be causing it.
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Installing Google framework/services/store/etc on Fire OS is always a crap shoot as Amazon has its own set of conflicting services. Many get it to work (at least partially) while others experience problems. Installing framework/services on an unrooted device presents additional challenges....but also adds a layer of safety as you can typically install/experiment/uninstall without serious consequences. Unfortunately, I don't have an answer to your current situation; responding to "why is this happening?". You'll probably get it to work eventually with help from others.
That makes sense. I did manage to get Skype 5.1 working but anything after that breaks. Must have added a new feature since then that gets into that services conflict you mention. No luck with TuneIn, though I found an alternative for that.
Any word on a working play store app? Wife got a Fire Tablet today on 4.5.3 and so far its unrootable and most google things arent working. Thinking about a new tablet at this point.
myke66 said:
Any word on a working play store app? Wife got a Fire Tablet today on 4.5.3 and so far its unrootable and most google things arent working. Thinking about a new tablet at this point.
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If your family is looking for unfettered access to the play store you should definitely look for another device. It will be awhile before alternative roms become available to newer Kindles and most play store implementations are hacks at best. While the hardware is wonderful you really have to be wed to the Amazon ecosystem to truly appreciate the device (or be fortunate enough to have an 'older' model that can be rooted/unlocked and run a Google friendly rom).
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If your family is looking for unfettered access to the play store you should definitely look for another device. It will be awhile before alternative roms become available to newer Kindles and most play store implementations are hacks at best. While the hardware is wonderful you really have to be wed to the Amazon ecosystem to truly appreciate the device (or be fortunate enough to have an 'older' model that can be rooted/unlocked and run a Google friendly rom).
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I appreciate the frank reply. I was able to set her up with Chrome and Gmail which were her main concerns. The 1Mobile 3rd party marketplace had any of the other apps she was looking for. I also finished moving all her books over so she's going to take it for a spin this weekend when we head to the beach for a night and see how it goes.
myke66 said:
I appreciate the frank reply. I was able to set her up with Chrome and Gmail which were her main concerns. The 1Mobile 3rd party marketplace had any of the other apps she was looking for. I also finished moving all her books over so she's going to take it for a spin this weekend when we head to the beach for a night and see how it goes.
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If you are comfortable with 1moble (one of my favorite 'alternative' marketplaces) then many of the shortcomings inherent with the Amazon store can be mitigated. Chrome (more often Gmail) can get fussy without google services/framework. Opera is a nice alternative that utilizes the same core engine as Chrome. Gmail is a little tougher to directly emulate; plenty of alternatives if the Gmail app coughs up a fur ball (I happen to like Aquamail). You really don't need root but if you choose to do so Xposed framework adds a few nice touches that can further tame an HDX without compromising native functionality.
Hope it works out for you folks.
You can run Google services framework without root. People have been having issues with the newer builds however. If it does not work for you, try build version 7.0.99.
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You can run Google services framework without root. People have been having issues with the newer builds however. If it does not work for you, try build version 7.0.99.
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That will work for now (thanks @lekofraggle for the tip) but be aware Google is quickly adapting apps to leverage capabilities introduced in newer builds of services framework. For now that appears confined to Maps and Google Now (eg: card features) and primarly targets Lollipop.
You are welcome. I know about the impending issue with Google play services. Hopefully they fix the issues soon. Google maps works for now but complains.
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I'm planning to root my Huawei P8 Lite and remove all Google apps. I have some questions about this.
Since I will be using the stock ROM which was designed to be used with Google apps, what are the implications of removing them?
For example, there are some entries in settings that concern Google apps (keyboard, location, search, etc.). What will happen to those after I remove all Google apps?
I have never used stock ROM without Google apps so far, only CyanogenMod without Google apps on my old phone.
Also, what would be the best way to remove Google apps? I have have one way (olivier-m on GitHubGist, can't post a link), but it seems that this list is for ICS and JB. Is that list valid for Lollipop?
Thanks for help.
You need to root and get a root unistaller.
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You need to root and get a root unistaller.
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Yes, but how will that affect functionality of the phone?
If you don't want Google Apps, by an iPhone.
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bujamin said:
Yes, but how will that affect functionality of the phone?
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Obviously you will have to find a way to get your apps and updates. Further you should ensure that you have a different keyboard than the google one activated prior to deletion as well as a browser besides chrome etc.
Also make sure to always do a full backup before trying stuff like this. If it shouldn't work you can still ask us for further advice and reflash your backup.
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Obviously you will have to find a way to get your apps and updates. Further you should ensure that you have a different keyboard than the google one activated prior to deletion as well as a browser besides chrome etc.
Also make sure to always do a full backup before trying stuff like this. If it shouldn't work you can still ask us for further advice and reflash your backup.
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I already have all the alternative apps ready, I've been using F-Droid on my old phone for the last 2 years so that part is taken care of.
Thanks for the tip about the keyboard, I didn't know that. And of course, I will do a backup before trying anything.
headnotfound said:
If you don't want Google Apps, by an iPhone.
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Thank you, your contribution to this thread is invaluable.
bujamin said:
I already have all the alternative apps ready, I've been using F-Droid on my old phone for the last 2 years so that part is taken care of.
Thanks for the tip about the keyboard, I didn't know that. And of course, I will do a backup before trying anything.
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It'd be cool if you could keep us up to date on your experiences, since I'm personally interested in this matter.
Nothing bad would happen. I personally keep only Play Store and Google Play Services. I don't need other Google crap such as News Stand, Play Books, Play Music, Gmail, Drive, Youtube and especially Play Movies, Hangouts and Photos. I keep Play Store to buy apps basically and Play Services for in game achievements
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It'd be cool if you could keep us up to date on your experiences, since I'm personally interested in this matter.
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I will. My plan is to backup, root, uninstall Gapps and replace them with F-Droid + open source alternatives. I'm very busy though so it might take few days, just so you know.
Update: I gave up from removing Gapps for time being because I wasn't able to successfully root my phone. I will probably wait until the end of the year until there are more options available (rooting and ROMs). Until then, I disabled Gapps and I'm using alternatives from F-Droid.
mfbcool said:
Nothing bad would happen. I personally keep only Play Store and Google Play Services. I don't need other Google crap such as News Stand, Play Books, Play Music, Gmail, Drive, Youtube and especially Play Movies, Hangouts and Photos. I keep Play Store to buy apps basically and Play Services for in game achievements
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I hope you're right. Of course, I'll make a backup just in case.
I have finally rooted my P8lite and went on a quest of removing Google apps and other bloatware. I removed every app with Google in its name and soft bricked my phone. Luckily I managed to restore it and now I'm trying again, more carefully.
I will consult these lists:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487073
http://blog.burrowsapps.com/2014/03/what-android-apps-are-safe-to-remove.html
http://androidforums.com/threads/bo...-de-bloat-your-boost-mobile-galaxy-s3.778877/
However, I would like input from someone knowledgeable on this subject because these lists are either not completely up-to-date not specifically for Huawei.
bujamin said:
However, I would like input from someone knowledgeable on this subject because these lists are either not completely up-to-date not specifically for Huawei.
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I rooted my phone and removed a lot of (system) apps and bloatware. I didn't make a list of all the apps I removed, but I can advice you to install Link2SD app and use the "Freeze" function for apps that you're unsure if they can be deleted. If you freeze the app and there's no strange behavior, it's probably safe to remove...
Hi Please help me, my google play store does not want to download anything, i tried factory restart and clearing the cache and clearing the data, but still not luck.
TIA
Hi,
I'm looking for a stock ROM without any Google apps or services.
I want to test the phone without Google and see if it is usable.
Is there a script I can use to remove all Google files from the phone?
Thanks
halifage said:
Hi,
I'm looking for a stock ROM without any Google apps or services.
I want to test the phone without Google and see if it is usable.
Is there a script I can use to remove all Google files from the phone?
Thanks
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Are you aware of it? You can't use the same apps with the same behavior as before. It's not a big deal. messenger apps for example uses google play services for instant messaging. Many other apps are unreliable without play services.
But you need to root your stock rom and can freeze Google play services(only this one is enough for first testing). It's the main service/app that's needed for every other Google service/app/connection.
strongst said:
Are you aware of it? You can't use the same apps with the same behavior as before. It's not a big deal. messenger apps for example uses google play services for instant messaging. Many other apps are unreliable without play services.
But you need to root your stock rom and can freeze Google play services(only this one is enough for first testing). It's the main service/app that's needed for every other Google service/app/connection.
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vielen Dank
I am fully aware of the repercussions. I want to dive in and delete the files, not just freeze them.
I've used the terminal debloater as suggested by @rajatgupta1998 but it doesn't offer the option to delete lib, jar, xml and other files.
At least i don't get the black screen after deleting, which is better than all scripts i flashed so far.
You could try NanoDroid, but make a backup before.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nanomod-5-0-20170405-microg-t3584928
thorin0815 said:
You could try NanoDroid, but make a backup before.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nanomod-5-0-20170405-microg-t3584928
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vielen Dank,
But i'm not actually looking install microG or any other form of GApps.
I just want to delete the ones that come with the stock ROM to have a Google-free stock ROM.
It seems certain files (like Google Services Framework) cause the phone to be stuck at black screen during boot.
halifage said:
vielen Dank,
But i'm not actually looking install microG or any other form of GApps.
I just want to delete the ones that come with the stock ROM to have a Google-free stock ROM.
It seems certain files (like Google Services Framework) cause the phone to be stuck at black screen during boot.
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As I wrote before, you can do the following on stock rom: just freeze/delete Google play services app and you cut every Google communications. You can't execute play store, YouTube, drive, accounts or whatever Google app. You'll see no Google play services wakelock anymore. If framework files are there after that doesn't matter.
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As I wrote before, you can do the following on stock rom: just freeze/delete Google play services app and you cut every Google communications. You can't execute play store, YouTube, drive, accounts or whatever Google app. You'll see no Google play services wakelock anymore. If framework files are there after that doesn't matter.
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Thanks.
Looks like my only option so far.
halifage said:
Thanks.
Looks like my only option so far.
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Just do this test and see if it's suitable for your purposes
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Just do this test and see if it's suitable for your purposes
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Testing now.
@strongst It's actually kinda like having the best of both worlds. It turns out some apps that required the maps API still works, including Maps (from Google).
The added bonus is that is can switch play services on at will.
I just deleted Google apps that i don't use.
Phone has been working without any issues at all. I have very few apps (whatsapp, automateIt, etc). i use xperia keyboard, FOSS apps like new pipe (for youtube), Dnotes (for keep), yalp store (for playe store).
Battery life and SOT have almost doubled.