Questions about removing Google apps - P8lite Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm planning to root my Huawei P8 Lite and remove all Google apps. I have some questions about this.
Since I will be using the stock ROM which was designed to be used with Google apps, what are the implications of removing them?
For example, there are some entries in settings that concern Google apps (keyboard, location, search, etc.). What will happen to those after I remove all Google apps?
I have never used stock ROM without Google apps so far, only CyanogenMod without Google apps on my old phone.
Also, what would be the best way to remove Google apps? I have have one way (olivier-m on GitHubGist, can't post a link), but it seems that this list is for ICS and JB. Is that list valid for Lollipop?
Thanks for help.

You need to root and get a root unistaller.

ward0 said:
You need to root and get a root unistaller.
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Yes, but how will that affect functionality of the phone?

If you don't want Google Apps, by an iPhone.
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bujamin said:
Yes, but how will that affect functionality of the phone?
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Obviously you will have to find a way to get your apps and updates. Further you should ensure that you have a different keyboard than the google one activated prior to deletion as well as a browser besides chrome etc.
Also make sure to always do a full backup before trying stuff like this. If it shouldn't work you can still ask us for further advice and reflash your backup.

PCSE said:
Obviously you will have to find a way to get your apps and updates. Further you should ensure that you have a different keyboard than the google one activated prior to deletion as well as a browser besides chrome etc.
Also make sure to always do a full backup before trying stuff like this. If it shouldn't work you can still ask us for further advice and reflash your backup.
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I already have all the alternative apps ready, I've been using F-Droid on my old phone for the last 2 years so that part is taken care of.
Thanks for the tip about the keyboard, I didn't know that. And of course, I will do a backup before trying anything.
headnotfound said:
If you don't want Google Apps, by an iPhone.
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Thank you, your contribution to this thread is invaluable.

bujamin said:
I already have all the alternative apps ready, I've been using F-Droid on my old phone for the last 2 years so that part is taken care of.
Thanks for the tip about the keyboard, I didn't know that. And of course, I will do a backup before trying anything.
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It'd be cool if you could keep us up to date on your experiences, since I'm personally interested in this matter.

Nothing bad would happen. I personally keep only Play Store and Google Play Services. I don't need other Google crap such as News Stand, Play Books, Play Music, Gmail, Drive, Youtube and especially Play Movies, Hangouts and Photos. I keep Play Store to buy apps basically and Play Services for in game achievements

PCSE said:
It'd be cool if you could keep us up to date on your experiences, since I'm personally interested in this matter.
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I will. My plan is to backup, root, uninstall Gapps and replace them with F-Droid + open source alternatives. I'm very busy though so it might take few days, just so you know.
Update: I gave up from removing Gapps for time being because I wasn't able to successfully root my phone. I will probably wait until the end of the year until there are more options available (rooting and ROMs). Until then, I disabled Gapps and I'm using alternatives from F-Droid.
mfbcool said:
Nothing bad would happen. I personally keep only Play Store and Google Play Services. I don't need other Google crap such as News Stand, Play Books, Play Music, Gmail, Drive, Youtube and especially Play Movies, Hangouts and Photos. I keep Play Store to buy apps basically and Play Services for in game achievements
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I hope you're right. Of course, I'll make a backup just in case.

I have finally rooted my P8lite and went on a quest of removing Google apps and other bloatware. I removed every app with Google in its name and soft bricked my phone. Luckily I managed to restore it and now I'm trying again, more carefully.
I will consult these lists:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487073
http://blog.burrowsapps.com/2014/03/what-android-apps-are-safe-to-remove.html
http://androidforums.com/threads/bo...-de-bloat-your-boost-mobile-galaxy-s3.778877/
However, I would like input from someone knowledgeable on this subject because these lists are either not completely up-to-date not specifically for Huawei.

bujamin said:
However, I would like input from someone knowledgeable on this subject because these lists are either not completely up-to-date not specifically for Huawei.
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I rooted my phone and removed a lot of (system) apps and bloatware. I didn't make a list of all the apps I removed, but I can advice you to install Link2SD app and use the "Freeze" function for apps that you're unsure if they can be deleted. If you freeze the app and there's no strange behavior, it's probably safe to remove...

Hi Please help me, my google play store does not want to download anything, i tried factory restart and clearing the cache and clearing the data, but still not luck.
TIA

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[Q] App not installed

Hello,
My new nexus 7 doesn't want to install most apps that are .apk
I had the .apk's from my htc evo 3d and the also worked on the samsung galaxy tab 2...
But when I try to install it on the nexus it just says "app not installed"
The apps that didn't work:
-beautiful widgets
-gta vice city
-photoshop touch
-gangstar rio
-many more
-some like temple run 2 and edge ex work...
Running stock rom.
Tried installing the older version of flash because i read that should work..no it doesnt.
Thanks
Why aren't you installing these from the Play Store (minus Flash)?
RMarkwald said:
Why aren't you installing these from the Play Store (minus Flash)?
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It's just a personal preference because its easier to install all apps when I have them all in one folder, rather then always searching for them on the play store.
Got used to it because I had my phone a lot of time on service, and it was frustrating to always install everything again and again.
mrsofa said:
It's just a personal preference because its easier to install all apps when I have them all in one folder, rather then always searching for them on the play store.
Got used to it because I had my phone a lot of time on service, and it was frustrating to always install everything again and again.
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The ones that aren't installing are paid for apps bud, how'd you get them then? Too coincidental that the paid apps won't install, but the free ones will...
If you paid for them from the Play Store, you can hit the little magnifying glass and type in the first 3-4 letters, and it'll find the app right away, takes seconds to do. You can also log into your Google account and search/install that way.
If you got these apps without paying for them, you won't find help here for that.
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The ones that aren't installing are paid for apps bud, how'd you get them then? Too coincidental that the paid apps won't install, but the free ones will...
If you paid for them from the Play Store, you can hit the little magnifying glass and type in the first 3-4 letters, and it'll find the app right away, takes seconds to do. You can also log into your Google account and search/install that way.
If you got these apps without paying for them, you won't find help here for that.
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I dont wanna search for all of them. Because I don't have a list in my head for which apps do I use.
I asked for help. I BOUGHT The tab. I bought most of the apps. Yes not all of them. What else do you want?
I didn't get any help, just atacks on WHY did I do it this way and not the other way. My grandma doesn't use the walking sticks even if her life would be better with them. It's a personal preference It doesn't matter why she wont use the sticks even if I cut off her legs.
If I'll ask what are those 4 gold dots on the side of the tab, I wanna know what. Not explain to you why would I use them and why not!
Now please, can we get to the point of the question?
mrsofa said:
I dont wanna search for all of them. Because I don't have a list in my head for which apps do I use.
I asked for help. I BOUGHT The tab. I bought most of the apps. Yes not all of them. What else do you want?
I didn't get any help, just atacks on WHY did I do it this way and not the other way. My grandma doesn't use the walking sticks even if her life would be better with them. It's a personal preference It doesn't matter why she wont use the sticks even if I cut off her legs.
If I'll ask what are those 4 gold dots on the side of the tab, I wanna know what. Not explain to you why would I use them and why not!
Now please, can we get to the point of the question?
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Wow, so you don't want to just TRY going to the Play Store to install one of these paid for apps to see (called troubleshooting) if it'll install? Google keeps a list of everything you installed, Settings - My Apps - swipe over to All, there's your list.
I know you bought the tablet, no one questioned that. You are asking how to install an app that you have to pay for but you got it via another means (pirated app), and it won't install...again, you won't find help for that here. You're getting asked questions which helps with trying to figure out the root of the problem, and your grandma reference is just disturbing and irrelevant.
Paid for apps don't get installed in /system like system apps are, so the question is relevant.
So here's your answer: Go to the Play Store, search for ONE of the paid apps you are having trouble installing, and TRY installing it from there. Oh yeah, and in Android 4.2 there is more built in security for pirated app detection, so like I've said before, if they are apps that cost money and you didn't purchase each of those apps, you won't be able to install them.
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Wow, so you don't want to just TRY going to the Play Store to install one of these paid for apps to see (called troubleshooting) if it'll install? Google keeps a list of everything you installed, Settings - My Apps - swipe over to All, there's your list.
I know you bought the tablet, no one questioned that. You are asking how to install an app that you have to pay for but you got it via another means (pirated app), and it won't install...again, you won't find help for that here. You're getting asked questions which helps with trying to figure out the root of the problem, and your grandma reference is just disturbing and irrelevant.
Paid for apps don't get installed in /system like system apps are, so the question is relevant.
So here's your answer: Go to the Play Store, search for ONE of the paid apps you are having trouble installing, and TRY installing it from there. Oh yeah, and in Android 4.2 there is more built in security for pirated app detection, so like I've said before, if they are apps that cost money and you didn't purchase each of those apps, you won't be able to install them.
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Thanks. That's all that I needed.
Furthermore, have you enabled "Unknown Sources" in Settings to sideload apps like you are trying to do? If not, that could be your problem as well. It could also be the the version of the apps you are trying to sideload are old and aren't supported in Android 4.x, hence the suggestion to try installing from the Play Store.
With Android 4.2 sideloaded apps are scanned, please review: this. It gives you information about what you are trying to do, and the "why" aspect of it.
So before you fly off the handle again with odd no-legged grandma references, try the above mention suggestions to see what happens. Are you rooted, or is your N7 stock?
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Furthermore, have you enabled "Unknown Sources" in Settings to sideload apps like you are trying to do? If not, that could be your problem as well. It could also be the the version of the apps you are trying to sideload are old and aren't supported in Android 4.x, hence the suggestion to try installing from the Play Store.
With Android 4.2 sideloaded apps are scanned, please review: this. It gives you information about what you are trying to do, and the "why" aspect of it.
So before you fly off the handle again with odd no-legged grandma references, try the above mention suggestions to see what happens. Are you rooted, or is your N7 stock?
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Well U might be right about the apps being not 4.2 supported. Because some of them are old.
I'm not rooted, just stock.
Some apps are not compatible with certain devices.
It doesn't matter whether a user paid for them or not. They paid for the app. and it installed on the device they had at the time, and it worked. Nowhere is it written, that a dev has to support any devices a person buys in the future.
The app dev's, have no obligation to program the app to work on everybody;s devices, regardless whether you paid for it or not. This is the nature of programming development.
Nowhere is it said that if you buy a new device, the app you purchased last year is compatible. If somebody can prove me wrong, please tell me.
Yes, you may be able to sideload the app. Another way is to make a build.prop edit to make it compatible. This is OK, and you are welcome to do so.
What is not acceptable, is to ask for paid apk's or discuss anything related to software piracy. This is against XDA rules, and also, against the law in most countries.
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Some apps are not compatible with certain devices.
It doesn't matter whether a user paid for them or not. They paid for the app. and it installed on the device they had at the time, and it worked. Nowhere is it written, that a dev has to support any devices a person buys in the future.
The app dev's, have no obligation to program the app to work on everybody;s devices, regardless whether you paid for it or not. This is the nature of programming development.
Nowhere is it said that if you buy a new device, the app you purchased last year is compatible. If somebody can prove me wrong, please tell me.
Yes, you may be able to sideload the app. Another way is to make a build.prop edit to make it compatible. This is OK, and you are welcome to do so.
What is not acceptable, is to ask for paid apk's or discuss anything related to software piracy. This is against XDA rules, and also, against the law in most countries.
MD
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all well said and true. Not against the law in my country... what now? Its totally normal download music illegal here, no one buys it... not a problem (Just a fun fact not piracy, just saying how easy it is to get stuff )
mrsofa said:
all well said and true. Not against the law in my country... what now? Its totally normal download music illegal here, no one buys it... not a problem (Just a fun fact not piracy, just saying how easy it is to get stuff )
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Your weak rationalization aside, it is still piracy.
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RMarkwald said:
Wow, so you don't want to just TRY going to the Play Store to install one of these paid for apps to see (called troubleshooting) if it'll install? Google keeps a list of everything you installed, Settings - My Apps - swipe over to All, there's your list.
I know you bought the tablet, no one questioned that. You are asking how to install an app that you have to pay for but you got it via another means (pirated app), and it won't install...again, you won't find help for that here. You're getting asked questions which helps with trying to figure out the root of the problem, and your grandma reference is just disturbing and irrelevant.
Paid for apps don't get installed in /system like system apps are, so the question is relevant.
So here's your answer: Go to the Play Store, search for ONE of the paid apps you are having trouble installing, and TRY installing it from there. Oh yeah, and in Android 4.2 there is more built in security for pirated app detection, so like I've said before, if they are apps that cost money and you didn't purchase each of those apps, you won't be able to install them.
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Dude, why do you even care if this guy bought those games or not, he is only asking how can he install them with out downloading it from the play store

Do you install gapps package (Google Apps) ?

Often ROM's instruct you to install the gapps package (http://goo.im/gapps ), which adds a collection of Google Apps. I'm often surprised that more people don't know, even sometimes Rom Developers themselves, that you don't always need them.
In fact not installing them, saves not only space, but ram & cpu usage. You end up with a faster device. Everything you need is already added in almost every standard Rom (including Chameleon OS for example).
For example, checking Gmail. You don't need Gmail App. The normal e-mail program that comes with Android already supports Gmail (and other e-mail providers).
You also don't need Google Search. The stock browser already uses it when you search. You save about 20 MB Ram (sometimes more, depending on which Rom you use), by not having Search on the desktop.
About the only con (drawback) is if you're flashing a phone, you're going to want or need gapps as that includes the voice commands (if I recall correctly). But if that's something you feel you can live without or don't need (because you have a tablet or maybe you don't use them on your phone), then not installing gapps can make things easier.
So do you install gapps (Google Apps)?
Actually, for some custom roms, in order for all the features to work, you need to flash Gapps. But for most you dont need. I have never had any bad things from flashing or not flahsing. But i always do flash so i can sync my purchases and apps.
I never flash the Gapps packages for any ROM I use. I only will add the Google Play Store, Google Services Framework and the Account Manager (for JB). All those Google apps are pointless and like stated earlier, will bog down the battery life and performance. Usually I will freeze the Play Store and such when not using them.
Its quite easy to put the required apps in the /system/app folder, set permissions correctly and reboot to get ONLY the Google Play Store. Of course you will need a root explorer like app to do this.
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I never flash the Gapps packages for any ROM I use. I only will add the Google Play Store, Google Services Framework and the Account Manager (for JB). All those Google apps are pointless and like stated earlier, will bog down the battery life and performance. Usually I will freeze the Play Store and such when not using them.
Its quite easy to put the required apps in the /system/app folder, set permissions correctly and reboot to get ONLY the Google Play Store. Of course you will need a root explorer like app to do this.
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Every ROM I've ever used had Google Play already installed. I believe Framework and Account Manager are already inside as well. So I've not needed to track down the actual app for it.
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Every ROM I've ever used had Google Play already installed. I believe Framework and Account Manager are already inside as well. So I've not needed to track down the actual app for it.
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Sometimes I'll get lucky and the Play Store is preloaded like SBlood's CM7. I usually use twa_priv's ROMs as my primaries in which I most always have to add Google Play, except I think the latest release (4-19-13), I believe that had it built in.
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Sometimes I'll get lucky and the Play Store is preloaded like SBlood's CM7. I usually use twa_priv's ROMs as my primaries in which I most always have to add Google Play, except I think the latest release (4-19-13), I believe that had it built in.
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Google Play store updates its self. So no matter which version you installed, it will be current sooner rather than later.
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Google Play store updates its self. So no matter which version you installed, it will be current sooner rather than later.
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I am well aware of that but thanks for mentioning it as maybe it will enlighten other users
I use this Gapps package. It is light apps and RAM usage.
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I think some of you have misunderstood the Gapps.
AFAIK, every AOSP-based ROM will have separate Gapps. Some REQUIRED, some not. You can choose to install or not. NOTE: if you won't install Gapps, you WON'T get Google Play.
Or connection to google services. If you do not flash Google Apps, you get nothing google (beside the software) so your wifi signal, will always be grey, instead of that nice blue. Thats the reason why i flash, that grey bugs me, I only want the blue colour(;
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I think some of you have misunderstood the Gapps.
AFAIK, every AOSP-based ROM will have separate Gapps. Some REQUIRED, some not. You can choose to install or not. NOTE: if you won't install Gapps, you WON'T get Google Play.
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That's not true or at least its not try with the ROMs I use. Google's app store is there without me having to add all the extras that come with Gapps
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Or connection to google services. If you do not flash Google Apps, you get nothing google (beside the software) so your wifi signal, will always be grey, instead of that nice blue. Thats the reason why i flash, that grey bugs me, I only want the blue colour(;
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Also not true. I have a nice Wifi signal without Gapps. I also connect to my Gmail using the stock e-mail problem.
This was posted using the stock browser without gapps installed.
Well, seeing this thread, I've tried freezing several system apps on my devices. After freezing backupconfirm and sharebackup, apps seems to open up faster and the device snappier..
I used to install gapps every time, now I usually dont. I like the email app in JB a lot better than the gmail app. Usually install the play store and maps
I like the maps and play store hate the gmail
I find that installing gapps, especially Google play services causes more bugs
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Had no idea!!!!!!!!!
hey guys,thanks for this post i was under the impression I HAD NO OTHER CHOICE...every time i have asked this in a specific rom ...always told to read the beginning of the 1st post on how to install before i post.....maybe wasnt making myself clear..thanks for answering my question...time to experiment !!!!!!!! :good::good::good::good:
Does anyone know exactly what Google flavored apps are required for the just the Play Store to function properly?
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I install gapps everytime because I am always getting new apps. It is interesting to hear that it isn't needed and can make things snappier if you don't need to download new apps.
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I install gapps everytime because I am always getting new apps. It is interesting to hear that it isn't needed and can make things snappier if you don't need to download new apps.
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I want to know exactly which ones are absolutely necessary so I can either remove or freeze the ones I don't need. I'm all about battery life and performance
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Install latest youtube on FireOS 4.5.3 and be able to login WITHOUT ROOT(!!!)

I am running FireOS 4.5.3 on Fire HDX 7" and it is not (and never has been) rooted.
Settings > Applications > Apps from unknown sources is On
I have the file manager with zip support installed.
Uninstall any versions of the 5 apks mentioned below.
Download this zip file:
https://mega.co.nz/#!OItCnSSA!VqBqlbwUa3h5VR0bmIXmRVBq4UeYo5bhBmzmflml3Vk
Open or extract it and install the apks in this order:
account manager 4.0.3
framework 4.0.4
play services 7.3.29
playstore 4.3.10
youtube 10.16.53
Reboot the tablet.
Go to youtube and you should get that normal google account login screen.
Login and presto! There you have it latest youtube apk with sign in ability.
Hasn't crashed on me (yet), but play store does not work (I've tried a few versions).
Yes I am aware of that youtube app with the blue icon in the amazon app store but I wasn't satisfied with it.
I haven't tried any other google apps yet with this combo.
I really hope this works for others. I just spent the last 5-6 hours figuring this out and it's now nearly 2am.
works for me
Youtube works.
Not for playstore gmail.
Oh that's cool I'm glad it's worked for others.
I just wanted to give something back to this forum cause I've gone to it so many times myself.
Found a gmail apk that works
Don't want to burst your bubble, but someone already figured out how to get YouTube to work on unrooted devices (along with other Google apps): http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/themes-apps/how-to-install-gapps-root-t2954372
Yes true but that guy (at end of thread) is 4.5.2 and has to execute some kinda command I don't. Lemme have my glory! Lol
Thanks. Works for me. How about Chrome?
kkcheong said:
Thanks. Works for me. How about Chrome?
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Chrome should work regardless of framework (at least it did last time I tried). If not try Opera. Same underlying engine (Chromium) with a different skin.
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Yes true but that guy (at end of thread) is 4.5.2 and has to execute some kinda command I don't. Lemme have my glory! Lol
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That command is for Google+ to work. It's not needed if you don't use G+. But at least you provided newer versions.
Is it just me, or does doing this break other apps? Skype won't work properly (no contacts or message history), TuneIn radio won't even get past the initial screen. Why is this happening? Sorry I'm new to this stuff.
I should add that uninstalling these packages then causes everything to work again, so it does seem to be causing it.
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Is it just me, or does doing this break other apps? Skype won't work properly (no contacts or message history), TuneIn radio won't even get past the initial screen. Why is this happening? Sorry I'm new to this stuff.
I should add that uninstalling these packages then causes everything to work again, so it does seem to be causing it.
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Installing Google framework/services/store/etc on Fire OS is always a crap shoot as Amazon has its own set of conflicting services. Many get it to work (at least partially) while others experience problems. Installing framework/services on an unrooted device presents additional challenges....but also adds a layer of safety as you can typically install/experiment/uninstall without serious consequences. Unfortunately, I don't have an answer to your current situation; responding to "why is this happening?". You'll probably get it to work eventually with help from others.
That makes sense. I did manage to get Skype 5.1 working but anything after that breaks. Must have added a new feature since then that gets into that services conflict you mention. No luck with TuneIn, though I found an alternative for that.
Any word on a working play store app? Wife got a Fire Tablet today on 4.5.3 and so far its unrootable and most google things arent working. Thinking about a new tablet at this point.
myke66 said:
Any word on a working play store app? Wife got a Fire Tablet today on 4.5.3 and so far its unrootable and most google things arent working. Thinking about a new tablet at this point.
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If your family is looking for unfettered access to the play store you should definitely look for another device. It will be awhile before alternative roms become available to newer Kindles and most play store implementations are hacks at best. While the hardware is wonderful you really have to be wed to the Amazon ecosystem to truly appreciate the device (or be fortunate enough to have an 'older' model that can be rooted/unlocked and run a Google friendly rom).
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If your family is looking for unfettered access to the play store you should definitely look for another device. It will be awhile before alternative roms become available to newer Kindles and most play store implementations are hacks at best. While the hardware is wonderful you really have to be wed to the Amazon ecosystem to truly appreciate the device (or be fortunate enough to have an 'older' model that can be rooted/unlocked and run a Google friendly rom).
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I appreciate the frank reply. I was able to set her up with Chrome and Gmail which were her main concerns. The 1Mobile 3rd party marketplace had any of the other apps she was looking for. I also finished moving all her books over so she's going to take it for a spin this weekend when we head to the beach for a night and see how it goes.
myke66 said:
I appreciate the frank reply. I was able to set her up with Chrome and Gmail which were her main concerns. The 1Mobile 3rd party marketplace had any of the other apps she was looking for. I also finished moving all her books over so she's going to take it for a spin this weekend when we head to the beach for a night and see how it goes.
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If you are comfortable with 1moble (one of my favorite 'alternative' marketplaces) then many of the shortcomings inherent with the Amazon store can be mitigated. Chrome (more often Gmail) can get fussy without google services/framework. Opera is a nice alternative that utilizes the same core engine as Chrome. Gmail is a little tougher to directly emulate; plenty of alternatives if the Gmail app coughs up a fur ball (I happen to like Aquamail). You really don't need root but if you choose to do so Xposed framework adds a few nice touches that can further tame an HDX without compromising native functionality.
Hope it works out for you folks.
You can run Google services framework without root. People have been having issues with the newer builds however. If it does not work for you, try build version 7.0.99.
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You can run Google services framework without root. People have been having issues with the newer builds however. If it does not work for you, try build version 7.0.99.
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That will work for now (thanks @lekofraggle for the tip) but be aware Google is quickly adapting apps to leverage capabilities introduced in newer builds of services framework. For now that appears confined to Maps and Google Now (eg: card features) and primarly targets Lollipop.
You are welcome. I know about the impending issue with Google play services. Hopefully they fix the issues soon. Google maps works for now but complains.
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Google ending support for Android Market on Android 2.1 and lower

Looks like no more market for pre-NGP devices.
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/06/ending-support-for-android-market-on.html
similardilemma said:
Looks like no more market for pre-NGP devices.
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/06/ending-support-for-android-market-on.html
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Thanks for posting this. I wondered when the final axe would fall. Well, it's simpler if GApps are not installed anyway and it was getting more and more temperamental. All the more reason for people to share packages of apps that they are using which work well on the device so we can side-load them. They can't take that away!
Does anyone know if this will affect the license check-in for paid apps? :/
Wondering about Titanium Backup Pro especially, it seems to check in on almost every boot. It would suck if we couldn't use it on the Nook Touch anymore, even though there are some clumsy alternatives.
Oops! Tried installing the 1337 ROM from 9th April 2015... No support for Android Market makes the rom unusable
Definitely backup your entire device + your original recovery before installing clockworkmod or 1337 ROM
I will now rever to stock and probably use Nook Manager to root the stock ROM.
Such a shame, I was super excited ot try out what seemed to be the best NST ROM out there
If it wasn't for ending the support for google apps, it might have been a great improvement, oh well...
Anyone with similar experience?
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Looks like no more market for pre-NGP devices.
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/06/ending-support-for-android-market-on.html
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July 2 and I can still use SearchMarket and install market apps....wonder if working installations are going to continue hobbling along?
Seems like it's gone for me. The market search function at least. The gmail app still works though.
How would you go about unlinking the NST from a google account all together?
It's not registered in the google device manager online, so I can't unlink it there.
I'm worried that things will start to wrong now when the framework is not supported anymore.
PremiumMediocre said:
Seems like it's gone for me. The market search function at least. The gmail app still works though.
How would you go about unlinking the NST from a google account all together?
It's not registered in the google device manager online, so I can't unlink it there.
I'm worried that things will start to wrong now when the framework is not supported anymore.
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I'm surprised your gmail works. I could never keep mine going. It would retrieve mail OK but would only send for a few days and then have to be reinstalled to work for a few more days.
The only concern I have is GoogleBooks, but so far it's OK. I'm not sure you need Market access to sync mail or books, but down the line these older applications may be rejected as security concerns. Time will tell.
So far I see no sign of weirdness.
Edit: OK, today (July 4) my NST is officially independent of the Market. No server contact. However, Google Books still works at this point. I'm not sure you should do anything. You could uninstall SearchMarket but that's about it. After all, lots of people are signed into Google on various devices to get mail but do not access the PlayStore. Famous last words
I have disabled both MarketUpdater.apk and Vending.apk (found in /system/app) by renaming them as *.OLD. After a reboot I have seen no problems running the few apps I had actually obtained from the PlayStore or those I side-loaded. Note I do not have any for-pay apps.
It may be possible to also disable Talk.apk and any adjuncts as this is used to interface with the Market, but I'm not there yet. A good goal would be to quiet down any behind-the-scenes activity by apps that can't connect any longer but keep trying to phone home just to be sure. At the same time I'm trying to maintain sync capability so that, for example, Google Books will continue to work for as long as possible. This, it seems to me, is the only remaining reason to bother with the GApps package at all since Google Sync is enabled with it.
Hello everyone. A few days ago i took my phone wich was lying around in the dust (x10 mini pro). Happily switched on, connected to internet and hit on market, just to realize this happened.
So, is there some market for 2.1-update? I was thinking about F-droid, but, how about this?
PD: sorry for my english
Sirius_Balzier said:
Hello everyone. A few days ago i took my phone wich was lying around in the dust (x10 mini pro). Happily switched on, connected to internet and hit on market, just to realize this happened.
So, is there some market for 2.1-update? I was thinking about F-droid, but, how about this?
PD: sorry for my english
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See https://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-touch/general/regain-market-acccess-nst-g-t3662594
nmyshkin said:
See https://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-touch/general/regain-market-acccess-nst-g-t3662594
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Thanks bro. I will try it soon :fingers-crossed:

Stock ROM without Google?

Hi,
I'm looking for a stock ROM without any Google apps or services.
I want to test the phone without Google and see if it is usable.
Is there a script I can use to remove all Google files from the phone?
Thanks
halifage said:
Hi,
I'm looking for a stock ROM without any Google apps or services.
I want to test the phone without Google and see if it is usable.
Is there a script I can use to remove all Google files from the phone?
Thanks
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Are you aware of it? You can't use the same apps with the same behavior as before. It's not a big deal. messenger apps for example uses google play services for instant messaging. Many other apps are unreliable without play services.
But you need to root your stock rom and can freeze Google play services(only this one is enough for first testing). It's the main service/app that's needed for every other Google service/app/connection.
strongst said:
Are you aware of it? You can't use the same apps with the same behavior as before. It's not a big deal. messenger apps for example uses google play services for instant messaging. Many other apps are unreliable without play services.
But you need to root your stock rom and can freeze Google play services(only this one is enough for first testing). It's the main service/app that's needed for every other Google service/app/connection.
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vielen Dank
I am fully aware of the repercussions. I want to dive in and delete the files, not just freeze them.
I've used the terminal debloater as suggested by @rajatgupta1998 but it doesn't offer the option to delete lib, jar, xml and other files.
At least i don't get the black screen after deleting, which is better than all scripts i flashed so far.
You could try NanoDroid, but make a backup before.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nanomod-5-0-20170405-microg-t3584928
thorin0815 said:
You could try NanoDroid, but make a backup before.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nanomod-5-0-20170405-microg-t3584928
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vielen Dank,
But i'm not actually looking install microG or any other form of GApps.
I just want to delete the ones that come with the stock ROM to have a Google-free stock ROM.
It seems certain files (like Google Services Framework) cause the phone to be stuck at black screen during boot.
halifage said:
vielen Dank,
But i'm not actually looking install microG or any other form of GApps.
I just want to delete the ones that come with the stock ROM to have a Google-free stock ROM.
It seems certain files (like Google Services Framework) cause the phone to be stuck at black screen during boot.
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As I wrote before, you can do the following on stock rom: just freeze/delete Google play services app and you cut every Google communications. You can't execute play store, YouTube, drive, accounts or whatever Google app. You'll see no Google play services wakelock anymore. If framework files are there after that doesn't matter.
strongst said:
As I wrote before, you can do the following on stock rom: just freeze/delete Google play services app and you cut every Google communications. You can't execute play store, YouTube, drive, accounts or whatever Google app. You'll see no Google play services wakelock anymore. If framework files are there after that doesn't matter.
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Thanks.
Looks like my only option so far.
halifage said:
Thanks.
Looks like my only option so far.
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Just do this test and see if it's suitable for your purposes
strongst said:
Just do this test and see if it's suitable for your purposes
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Testing now.
@strongst It's actually kinda like having the best of both worlds. It turns out some apps that required the maps API still works, including Maps (from Google).
The added bonus is that is can switch play services on at will.
I just deleted Google apps that i don't use.
Phone has been working without any issues at all. I have very few apps (whatsapp, automateIt, etc). i use xperia keyboard, FOSS apps like new pipe (for youtube), Dnotes (for keep), yalp store (for playe store).
Battery life and SOT have almost doubled.

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