Heres my dream: a tiny Android that appears to be a "dumb"phone when in reality it's a beefed up Huawei M835.
This is a far fetched idea but I want to mod my Huawei M835 to run JellyBean 4.3, smoothly.
I was on iFixit today and it made me get into that kind of mood. What if I bought a dual core processor among other chips and IC's and went to work? Is it possible to find such hardware that is compatable with this phone? Or even a new motherboard that will fit (of course with some adjustments) and/or a new screen, camera, etc.? ANY HARDWARE/SOFTWARE THAT I CAN USE TO AT LEAST DO SMALL UPGRADES WILL HELP!
nice one
u can but dream
They must start coding for new OS. From now on they wont able to do that
Not as far as you think really...
Have you ever heard of "Computer Glasses".
A pair of Android Sunglasses would make for a "Tiny" device.
Hello!
I'm working on a very ambitious project and I thought i'd reach out to see if anyone here at xda would have some comments.
I detailed the basics in this reddit post:
http://www.reddit.com/r/SideProject/comments/2pqh3f/an_idea_to_end_the_proprietary_living_room/
TL/DR: I want to make a new embedded dev board (like a raspberry pi) but with more power, and HDMI Inputs, and HDCP Compliance. This dev board would be the heart (brain) of new open source AV Receivers.
I want to target linux, as well as Android with this. I think an Android powered AV Receiver would be AMAZING!
Currently i'm leaning towards an atom processor, as the price is right, and the performance seems to be very good. x86 development is very mature, however that could prove a hindrance, as arm is more optimized. However, i'm sure others have insight into the ideal configuration. I haven't used the nexus player (only x86 device i know of), so i'm interested in hearing peoples experiences.
I welcome all questions and comments. I'm looking for someone interested in helping with the design of the board.
The Open Home Alliance
Freeing humanity from the proprietary living room
Coming soon to other rooms...
Hello everyone, i want to ask something about Android Wear OS and Hardware Specs which is related my Bachelor of Science Thesis subject. First of all, I searched the forum; there were no answers about my question, I also searched developer.android.com/wear and there were no extra information, it contains information about well-known smart watch developers' products such as sony, samsung, lg, etc...
so, my intention is building both software and hardware parts of a special version of android wear device. that means, i need to etch special pcbs, solder chips onto that pcbs, mount capacitive touchscreen, build metal body (cnc cutted) on hardware side
then i must reconfigure, rebuild and fine-tune the stock android wear rom for my specially built hardware, for example my design includes 9-DOF IMU sensor, then i must write its driver (*.so) for my hw, and so on...
And the question is, i want to know if there is any documentation or technical datasheets, example pcb designs, hardware compatiblity lists, reference diy projects, etc?
thanks guys
-fatalblade.
Am looking for any Android watches that have a heart rate sensor on the back (touching skin)? I haven't seen any on Alibaba or elsewhere.
Intention is ... I want to bulk order (for a project) such watches with custom Android ROM in it that periodically tracks the heart rate. Non-Android ones are available though (and I don't think they would run Android).
abuduri said:
Am looking for any Android watches that have a heart rate sensor on the back (touching skin)? I haven't seen any on Alibaba or elsewhere.
Intention is ... I want to bulk order (for a project) such watches with custom Android ROM in it that periodically tracks the heart rate. Non-Android ones are available though (and I don't think they would run Android).
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You can find the Reedone X1 on AliExpress. There are of course Android Wear too.
The Reedone X1 uses the Ingenic MIPS X1 platform. Comparing to my disintegrating Omate Truesmart, it has advantages:
* Lighter, 49g
* Transflective LCD
* Android 4.3 from start - BT 4.0
* Barometer, HR sensor
* Cheap, less than US $100
* Android dev in the open they say, not as for MediaTek
Questionable:
* IP67 on paper. Less "holes" (antennas, speaker) than the Omate improves the chance slightly, still questionable.
* No speaker or vibrator.
* MIPS unproven, some apps will not work. For instance XPosed will be tricky. (Same SoC as SmartQ Z1.)
* Just 512+512 RAM+ROM, most will be used by the OS, few apps. Just Minuum keyboard uses 120MB!
* How is battery lasting?
* Most HR sensors in non sports watches are questionable it seems, need protection like the TomTom Cardio
* Most info in Chinese, no info outside China for this watch.
Will miss SIM and WIFI.
No camera is not a dealbreaker.
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You can find the Reedone X1 on AliExpress. There are of course Android Wear too.
The Reedone X1 uses the Ingenic MIPS X1 platform. Comparing to my disintegrating Omate Truesmart, it has advantages:
* Lighter
* Transflective LCD
* Android 4.3 from start - BT 4.0
* Barometer, HR sensor
* Cheap, less than US $100
* Android dev in the open they say, not as for MediaTek
Questionable:
* MIPS unproven, some apps do not work.For instance XPosed will be tricky. (Same SoC as SmartQ Z1.)
* Just 512+512 RAM+ROM, most will be used by the OS, few apps. Just Minuum keyboard uses 120MB!
* How is battery lasting?
* Most HR sensors in non sports watches are questionable it seems, need protection like the TomoTom Cardio
* Most info in Chinese
No camera is not a dealbreaker.
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Wow .. @gerhardo ... thanks a bunch! Been searching for 3 days now and not sure how I missed this one. May be I was biased towards Mediatek ones. This one right?
Would really love to hear your thoughts on the following w.r.t. Ingenic vs Mediatek (or other most popular ones).
Am trying to build a complete custom interface for a specific audience
The watch will be used as a complete standalone (using SIM) and will not be paired with a phone
The intended audience will not be tinkering around at all, and will not do any app installs ... just use it daily - thats all
So, keeping the above in mind, and if I built my own custom ROM with my user interface, would I face issues if I went with Ingenic now and then next year want to shift to another (say Mediatek)?
abuduri said:
Wow .. @gerhardo ... thanks a bunch! Been searching for 3 days now and not sure how I missed this one. May be I was biased towards Mediatek ones. This one right?
Would really love to hear your thoughts on the following w.r.t. Ingenic vs Mediatek (or other most popular ones).
Am trying to build a complete custom interface for a specific audience
The watch will be used as a complete standalone (using SIM) and will not be paired with a phone
The intended audience will not be tinkering around at all, and will not do any app installs ... just use it daily - thats all
So, keeping the above in mind, and if I built my own custom ROM with my user interface, would I face issues if I went with Ingenic now and then next year want to shift to another (say Mediatek)?
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Looks like it doesn't have GSM ... sigh!
abuduri said:
Wow .. @gerhardo ... thanks a bunch! Been searching for 3 days now and not sure how I missed this one. May be I was biased towards Mediatek ones. This one right?
Would really love to hear your thoughts on the following w.r.t. Ingenic vs Mediatek (or other most popular ones).
Am trying to build a complete custom interface for a specific audience
The watch will be used as a complete standalone (using SIM) and will not be paired with a phone
The intended audience will not be tinkering around at all, and will not do any app installs ... just use it daily - thats all
So, keeping the above in mind, and if I built my own custom ROM with my user interface, would I face issues if I went with Ingenic now and then next year want to shift to another (say Mediatek)?
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The link is for the same phone I have seen on AliExpress.
No GSM, but you could save data locally and upload when close to a paired phone.
MediaTek do not honor the GPL, keeps even the kernel closed source. It is part of their business model to sell GPL code. They are crooks.
Ingenic says they are doing open source, but I have not seen it.
MediaTek (mostly) uses supported ARM architechture so native NDK apps like games and browsers work.
Ingenic uses a MIPS platform with very little external support (yet at least).
In either way, it is a lot of work making a custom ROM. See the SmartQ Z threads for some hints, should be comparable to the Reedone X1.
Most of the _additions_ to the application you want to do will be done using the Android SDK, i.e. Java code where ARM/MIPS does not matter.
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The link is for the same phone I have seen on AliExpress.
No GSM, but you could save data locally and upload when close to a paired phone.
MediaTek do not honor the GPL, keeps even the kernel closed source. It is part of their business model to sell GPL code. They are crooks.
Ingenic says they are doing open source, but I have not seen it.
MediaTek (mostly) uses supported ARM architechture so native NDK apps like games and browsers work.
Ingenic uses a MIPS platform with very little external support (yet at least).
In either way, it is a lot of work making a custom ROM. See the SmartQ Z threads for some hints, should be comparable to the Reedone X1.
Most of the _additions_ to the application you want to do will be done using the Android SDK, i.e. Java code where ARM/MIPS does not matter.
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You lost me there ... so a phone like Z01 (other version) ... is the ROM running on it (Android 4.4) their own custom ROM?
You are right, my needs are all in the app layer and want just a single app to occupy the entire interface, no matter what buttons pressed ... no settings, no menus, no music etc
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You lost me there ... so a phone like Z01 (other version) ... is the ROM running on it (Android 4.4) their own custom ROM?
You are right, my needs are all in the app layer and want just a single app to occupy the entire interface, no matter what buttons pressed ... no settings, no menus, no music etc
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Almost every phone has its specific hardware, requiring specific drivers. In the embedded world, you usually integrate the drivers in the build, so each device has its own custom ROM in some sense.
Most apps on the application layer uses the defined Android interfaces only, then the lower layers are not visible.
As many devices with MediaTek chipsets use MediaTek reference designs and the MediaTek services for the ROM (that they sell), you can mix MediaTek ROM to some extent, but that is an exception.
For instance the difference between Umeox x201 (Omate TrueSmart etc) and Umeox x202 (UNOVA IronMan) is the sensorhub, so sensors will not work when using UNOVA KitKat in a Omate TS.
If your needs are so specific, Android should not be a requirement, any OS should do.
gerhardo said:
Almost every phone has its specific hardware, requiring specific drivers. In the embedded world, you usually integrate the drivers in the build, so each device has its own custom ROM in some sense.
Most apps on the application layer uses the defined Android interfaces only, then the lower layers are not visible.
As many devices with MediaTek chipsets use MediaTek reference designs and the MediaTek services for the ROM (that they sell), you can mix MediaTek ROM to some extent, but that is an exception.
For instance the difference between Umeox x201 (Omate TrueSmart etc) and Umeox x202 (UNOVA IronMan) is the sensorhub, so sensors will not work when using UNOVA KitKat in a Omate TS.
If your needs are so specific, Android should not be a requirement, any OS should do.
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Yeah. May be the app can be made in such a way (with background service and app) that notifications, alerts, user inputs etc are all driven just by the front-end app - making it a simple Google Play app install.
I want to be able to use heart rate sensor, temp sensor (if available), phone service (make/receive calls), GPS tracking, reminders/alerts/notifications, track movements, sleep etc ... basically ALL the features of the watch ... USING MY APP reporting to some sort of backend server app is connected to
Main reason for mentioning custom ROM is - I dont want my intended user to get confused with menu structure, unwanted/unknown button presses etc etc - means remove them totally from the user interface
So am I still in need of a custom ROM? or just app?
And Android because its a standard platform, SDK available, support available etc.
Hi,
can you advise me some ultra cheap chinese smartwatch only for developing (around 20€)? I'm begginer android developer and I want to develop also version for smartwatch. I don't need any heart rate sensor, GPS, cellular, etc ... Also I don't care about design. I need only a battery life for 3+ hours and bluetooth.
Do you have any ideas? And what about OS - I need Android or Android Wear?
For example - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2017-Pewant-Wearable-Devices-PW01-Smart-Watch-GT08-Android-Wear-Clock-Smartwatch-With-Camera-SIM-Smart/32799609496.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.10.5DyKmW&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10065_10151_10068_10344_10345_10342_10343_10340_10341_10541_10307_10303_10060_10155_10154_10056_10055_10539_10537_10536_10059_10534_10533_100031_10103_10102_5670011_10142_10107_9983_10171_5660011_10562_5740011_10084_10083_10561_10312_10313_10314_10550_10073_10551_10552_10553_10554_10557_5650011,searchweb201603_25,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=1c69ec10-c4d3-458c-81a3-654e2ec08a26&algo_expid=6803b1a1-e8fb-4d40-8e64-843b20b2a6af-4&algo_pvid=6803b1a1-e8fb-4d40-8e64-843b20b2a6af
It is possible to run my own application on this smartwatch?
Thanks