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I am looking to buy a Smartwatch. I saw very good reviews of the Moto 360 1st gen (good price too) but I have small wrists so it would look huge on me. I recently stumbled upon Finow X5 and No. 1 D5 (and G4) but since they are not as popular I couldn't find as much information... Now I just found another one - K9 3G. That's why I am seeking your help. Which one should I go for? It saw that No. 1 tends to look weird on the hand, so for me now is mostly down to X5 vs K9. I don't know if the X1 / X3 models of Finow are worth over X5.
I am open to any smartwatch suggestions in the budget of £100-150, which means I also consider the Moto 360 2nd gen (42mm), but there are so many options in this market, I am just confused.
Also, I will plan to use the Smartwatch with no SIM inside (who uses a sim with that anyway? I need it in my phone), I live in the UK and I got an Android phone with 5.1. Will i be able to get full functionality out of the above models?
If you can drop your 2 cents here, I would greatly appreciate.
If you can afford it moto 360 2nd gen especially if it's for watch faces as they are much easier to install over the full Android watches. Android wear is a bit like Apple it just works well and more apps come out daily.
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snake65 said:
If you can afford it moto 360 2nd gen especially if it's for watch faces as they are much easier to install over the full Android watches. Android wear is a bit like Apple it just works well and more apps come out daily.
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Thanks for the reply. Sorry for being such a noob, Finow devices don't use android wear? So if they use stock android, there might be some advantages in that too I guess.
You would say Moto 2nd gen 42mm over Finow X5 for functionality? Cause regarding design, Moto has that little black strip unfortunately, a bit of turn off)
I had the Moto 360 1st gen and loved it but wanted something more powerful. Don't get me wrong from what I've seen here the finow is exceptional value for money , I have an i2 but stuck at bootloader and waiting on the arrival of the kw88, but you need to look around and read for yourself.
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The 2nd gen Moto 360 has appalling battery life apparently, which is a thing to be wary of. I'd love for the Chinese manufacturers to up their game when it comes to companion watches, I understand the advantages of a standalone, but I think they've underestimated what a large market segment they could tap into by pressuring the mainstream brands (I also understand this is down to Google licensing of android wear, but what happened to AWC? Shows there are workarounds?).
That said, watches like the X5 etc. Show massive potential, the Ticwatch 2 looks very interesting as well.
PS. Just to add that Motorola's customer service and repair centres are woeful also if you're in the UK
letrix42 said:
Thanks for the reply. Sorry for being such a noob, Finow devices don't use android wear? So if they use stock android, there might be some advantages in that too I guess.
You would say Moto 2nd gen 42mm over Finow X5 for functionality? Cause regarding design, Moto has that little black strip unfortunately, a bit of turn off)
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Take a look here - https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/109827242607524552712
We have done a lot of work with these devices and when it comes to custom watch faces the X5, X3 (which is the same as K9) and X1 (same as D5) is a fantastic watch.
It is really a stand alone watch at the moment though. It takes a sim card and works exactly like a mobile phone.
pablo11 said:
Take a look here - https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/109827242607524552712
We have done a lot of work with these devices and when it comes to custom watch faces the X5, X3 (which is the same as K9) and X1 (same as D5) is a fantastic watch.
It is really a stand alone watch at the moment though. It takes a sim card and works exactly like a mobile phone.
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Wow, just awesome!! Finow X5 looks like a great great device. I see you know what you are talking about, so maybe you can help me out a little.
My main concern is that I won't be able to get the most out of my Finow if I don't use it with its own SIM - and really, who would ditch the phone over a smart watch? I can only think how much you lose: web browsing with ease on bigger screen, private phone calls (you keep it to your ear, not on speaker), writing messages a lot easier, photos/videos on decent screen etc.
Will I be able to do the following with the X5?
- get notifications from the phone on the watch (SMS, Emails, Whatsapp, Facebook)
- disable notifications / reply to messages received on phone with the X5
- accept calls from the watch (again, no SIM inside, call received on the phone)
Also, is the Moto360 (2nd gen, 42mm) more limited compared to the Finow X5 from other points of views? Will I be able to load any watchface on the Moto 360, as I see we are able to do with the X5? Will I be better off using a SIM in my phone and one in my X5? Does the X5 communicate with my smartphone whatsoever - do they share any notifications?
letrix42 said:
Wow, just awesome!! Finow X5 looks like a great great device. I see you know what you are talking about, so maybe you can help me out a little.
My main concern is that I won't be able to get the most out of my Finow if I don't use it with its own SIM - and really, who would ditch the phone over a smart watch? I can only think how much you lose: web browsing with ease on bigger screen, private phone calls (you keep it to your ear, not on speaker), writing messages a lot easier, photos/videos on decent screen etc.
Will I be able to do the following with the X5?
- get notifications from the phone on the watch (SMS, Emails, Whatsapp, Facebook)
- disable notifications / reply to messages received on phone with the X5
- accept calls from the watch (again, no SIM inside, call received on the phone)
Also, is the Moto360 (2nd gen, 42mm) more limited compared to the Finow X5 from other points of views? Will I be able to load any watchface on the Moto 360, as I see we are able to do with the X5? Will I be better off using a SIM in my phone and one in my X5? Does the X5 communicate with my smartphone whatsoever - do they share any notifications?
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To be honest - looking at your list of requirements - I would suggest Android Wear.
All you really want is a companion watch - these X5 etc etc are stand alone.
Not good for pairing with phones - although some people do manage to work through it with app like M2D and similar
pablo11 said:
To be honest - looking at your list of requirements - I would suggest Android Wear.
All you really want is a companion watch - these X5 etc etc are stand alone.
Not good for pairing with phones - although some people do manage to work through it with app like M2D and similar
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Well I will definitely take the X5 over Android Wear if I could get paring to work too. The no flat tire display just looks better. Can you please tell me which are, in your opinion, the 1-2 major functionalities of X5 over Android Wear (Moto 360) and one major downside?
And hold on a minute, I got an idea. What if I put my SIM in the X5 and use this M2D app on the phone to get notification from the watch on the phone. Will that improve the communication between the devices? I mainly use my phone for browsing on a big screen (over WiFi, no SIM use), taking pictures (no SIM use) and making calls (SIM use). So how do you cope with phone calls on the speaker of the X5? Aren't you concerned about other people hearing the person you are speaking to / the quality of the X5 microphone?
Honestly, I incline more for the X5 at this point, but I still want to clarify the above points before making a decision. Thank you so much Pablo!
letrix42 said:
Well I will definitely take the X5 over Android Wear if I could get paring to work too. The no flat tire display just looks better. Can you please tell me which are, in your opinion, the 1-2 major functionalities of X5 over Android Wear (Moto 360) and one major downside?
And hold on a minute, I got an idea. What if I put my SIM in the X5 and use this M2D app on the phone to get notification from the watch on the phone. Will that improve the communication between the devices? I mainly use my phone for browsing on a big screen (over WiFi, no SIM use), taking pictures (no SIM use) and making calls (SIM use). So how do you cope with phone calls on the speaker of the X5? Aren't you concerned about other people hearing the person you are speaking to / the quality of the X5 microphone?
Honestly, I incline more for the X5 at this point, but I still want to clarify the above points before making a decision. Thank you so much Pablo!
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As far as a companion, Wear is a much better choice. Of Wear, skip the 360 and get the original LG (square). You can find the LG for as little as $50 these days. And even though the LG might not look cool to you, it has the same CPU, RAM, storage and features the Asus, LG R and many others.
In a X5 vs Wear;
Readability of the font- Wear (the UI is designed for smartwatches)
Notification interaction- Wear (X5 requires third party apps for notification interactions)
Notification logs- X5
Wearable Apps- Wear (while limited in features, all apps for Wear are designed for smaller screens)
Voice Commands- Wear
Navigation- tie
Remote music and camera control- Wear
Phonecalls on watch from phone- neither work
Phonecalls on watch (no phone)- X5 *requires a SIM in the watch* (but about 2 hours is the best you will get)
Custom watchfaces- Wear has something like 100,000, X5 couple hundred
Watchface features- Wear, by a long shot if you use WatchMaker
Battery life- As a companion using BT, same
The best way to look at this is Wear is designed to be a companion out of the box. The X5 (D5, K9, etc) are tiny little phones for your wrist with tiny little batteries, and not really designed to be a full companion device.
Lokifish Marz said:
As far as a companion, Wear is a much better choice. Of Wear, skip the 360 and get the original LG (square). You can find the LG for as little as $50 these days. And even though the LG might not look cool to you, it has the same CPU, RAM, storage and features the Asus, LG R and many others.
In a X5 vs Wear;
Readability of the font- Wear (the UI is designed for smartwatches)
Notification interaction- Wear (X5 requires third party apps for notification interactions)
Notification logs- X5
Wearable Apps- Wear (while limited in features, all apps for Wear are designed for smaller screens)
Voice Commands- Wear
Navigation- tie
Remote music and camera control- Wear
Phonecalls on watch from phone- neither work
Phonecalls on watch (no phone)- X5 *requires a SIM in the watch* (but about 2 hours is the best you will get)
Custom watchfaces- Wear has something like 100,000, X5 couple hundred
Watchface features- Wear, by a long shot if you use WatchMaker
Battery life- As a companion using BT, same
The best way to look at this is Wear is designed to be a companion out of the box. The X5 (D5, K9, etc) are tiny little phones for your wrist with tiny little batteries, and not really designed to be a full companion device.
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Alright, I just bought a second hand LG Urbane W150 in good condition for $130. I hope I made the right choice, looking for your opinion. I didn't go for the square LG cause I don't like the design... and the Moto 360 has that flat tire on the bottom that I don't like.
I gathered some information in this forum and around the internet and I've found that there are 2 possibilities for me: android wear devices (but the price is higher) and Chinese smartwatches, which seems to be more "complete" as they run a modified version of android (so that play store and other common android features work on the watch). Plus, I'd like to know more about rooting and flashing smartwatches... I see some kingwear, or lemfo lem5 (currently my favourite by design).
Now, is this correct? And if so, what smartwatch would you suggest right now?
I've also found these: FINOW X5: http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watch-phone/pp_576172.html NO.1 D5+: http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watch-phone/pp_446744.html
GoldenGallade said:
I gathered some information in this forum and around the internet and I've found that there are 2 possibilities for me: android wear devices (but the price is higher) and Chinese smartwatches, which seems to be more "complete" as they run a modified version of android (so that play store and other common android features work on the watch). Plus, I'd like to know more about rooting and flashing smartwatches... I see some kingwear, or lemfo lem5 (currently my favourite by design).
Now, is this correct? And if so, what smartwatch would you suggest right now?
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The only problem i have with the chinese smartwatches (i have 3 different types) is battery life (with the exeption of LEM4 / DM98). I can't get thru the day with one charge. And what good is a smartwatch if it runs out of battery in the middle of the day. It's like wearing a rock around your wrist.
Android wear smartwatches get thru the day on one charge, sometimes even two or three days (i have the LG G watch R, and only have to charge it once in two days). I'm waiting untill the Android Wear 2.0 smartwatches will hit the marked in a few weeks/month to really replace my LG g watch R. Yes, they will be more expensive then the chinese "full android" smartwatches but battery life is important to me.
froggerman said:
The only problem i have with the chinese smartwatches (i have 3 different types) is battery life (with the exeption of LEM4 / DM98). I can't get thru the day with one charge. And what good is a smartwatch if it runs out of battery in the middle of the day. It's like wearing a rock around your wrist.
Android wear smartwatches get thru the day on one charge, sometimes even two or three days (i have the LG G watch R, and only have to charge it once in two days). I'm waiting untill the Android Wear 2.0 smartwatches will hit the marked in a few weeks/month to really replace my LG g watch R. Yes, they will be more expensive then the chinese "full android" smartwatches but battery life is important to me.
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I don't think battery life would be a problem for me, I would not make an intense use of it. It's more like -when my phone battery runs out, I still have my watch. But ye when the battery runs out the watch becomes a rock. So I should consider battery life of: NO.1 D5+, FINOW X5 PLUS and LEMFO LEM5 (my 3 choices for now). Do you have any of them?
GoldenGallade said:
I don't think battery life would be a problem for me, I would not make an intense use of it. It's more like -when my phone battery runs out, I still have my watch. But ye when the battery runs out the watch becomes a rock. So I should consider battery life of: NO.1 D5+, FINOW X5 PLUS and LEMFO LEM5 (my 3 choices for now). Do you have any of them?
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No i don't have those. I have a Q1, LEM4 (sold it recently) and DM368(LF16). And i'm about to sell them all and i will probably wait for the android wear 2.0 smartwatches (although i kinda like the full android type of watches). I did a lot of searching and internet browsing before i bought my watches. And spend a lot of time tweaking them (also rooting them). But as a said, the battery life is a bit of a party crasher for me. I'm looking for a smartwatch that can replace my smartphone on some days. The LEM4 came close, but it's not a very appealing smartwatch, and the Android 4.4 version that i bought (android 5.1 is also available) had a very small app installation partition.
My perfect smartwatch isn't out there yet...
froggerman said:
No i don't have those. I have a Q1, LEM4 (sold it recently) and DM368(LF16). And i'm about to sell them all and i will probably wait for the android wear 2.0 smartwatches (although i kinda like the full android type of watches). I did a lot of searching and internet browsing before i bought my watches. And spend a lot of time tweaking them (also rooting them). But as a said, the battery life is a bit of a party crasher for me. I'm looking for a smartwatch that can replace my smartphone on some days. The LEM4 came close, but it's not a very appealing smartwatch, and the Android 4.4 version that i bought (android 5.1 is also available) had a very small app installation partition.
My perfect smartwatch isn't out there yet...
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I see, since this would be my first smartwatch ever, I will get the NO.1 D5+ I think cause i like the band and the hardware is really powerful for the price. Who knows, maybe one day i will try one with android wear 2.0 like you. Thanks
I just bought the new DT28 Smart Watch with this Nordic SoC and i want to know how to add or install dial face or watch face, what type of format use, XML or VPX, even if its possible to install application or the UI interface to the watch from a different watch with the same SoC. like the Microwear L5,i do like the interface IU and the watch faces.
thanks
It's not possible. The VXP apps are only for MediaTek LinkIT watches (Aster platform). The Nordic MPU has much better battery life but it has more limitations.
thanks, that’s what I thought so no way to do something that’s to bad
Watch faces
azw413 said:
It's not possible. The VXP apps are only for MediaTek LinkIT watches (Aster platform). The Nordic MPU has much better battery life but it has more limitations.
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Yeah, but how did the company do it? can't they help us installing custom watches. How did they install the current ones??
Is it really
Is it really not possible to do anything with this magnificent chinese technology?
I opened my x1, it's a first generation, and i am looking for which pins to connect to in order to read and flash to the watch, i have posted pictures over on:
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Hi guys, My new Blackview X1 smartwatch is working ok,good battery,good connection,send an recieve data from/to app, but my problem is the black screen(verydimmed-night mode) and for that I cannot enter any command from watch because i cannot see...
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If anyone can offer assistance I'd greatly appreciate it!
Please, help me to find the best android smart watch. I need a powerful, reliable device, which can to replace a smartphone andy easy develop apps for them.
TLDR: I need an android smartwatch (no wear os, true android with open loader, etc), that supports SIM (mobile network), nfc (if possible), water protection (IP67/IP68), good hardware and battery. I searched in Chinese markets like Ali***ss.
I search for good models and opinions of these models users. My interest is a made in China device with true android as a replacement for typical budget smartphone (but with some specific watch's features like water protection). In ideal case, such watch will have a good mtk processor, 2+gb ram, water protection, bright display (amoled always on, if possible), nfc (in any implementation, if possible), high volume battery.
My typical use case are voice communication, notifications reading, management of other devices via their apps (TV, kitchen appliances in smart home, etc) and healthcare (with regular - continuous or one per 10 seconds pulse checks). How long an android smartwatch will work in this mode? How many hours working device I can get, if I will use skype/telegram/sip client for a hour, a hour of display use and other time idle (with pulse checking and network on to be in touch - for new notifications)?
I found some interesting devices:
IP67: lemfo lem8/lemX, kospet hope. Also found "kospet optimus/optimus pro", but I can''t understand the difference from them to hope/hope lite except specific design. How about chinese IP67? The standard guaranties 30 minutes of waterproof, but I don't know, can I trust the seller's promises? Can I take a shower or swim in such watches?
IP68: Kospet Brave, H7 4G, makibes m2.
Anyone know anything about these models, may be, some one used them? Take your review, comparison or opinion please. May be, you know better alternatives? Why I don't see abundance of roms/hacks for all mentioned above devices on this forum? Is it because they are new or they are not interesting to anyone?
From Kospet, the best selections so far are the Kospet Hope (released last year) and Kospet Optimus Pro (similar specs, only the Optimus Pro has dual OS (Android 7.1 and Lite OS) and dual processors. My understanding is that the second processor only kicks in when you're low on battery.
I have the Kospet Hope, so I can only tell you about this watch.
It's an idea that sounds good on paper: A true Android smartwatch that can double as a phone complete with a camera. Specs are great - 3GB RAM, 32GB ROM. Amoled screen. "8 megapixel" camera.
In reality, I still find it hard to see how this watch can ever replace my phone.
First, they claim that the battery lasts a few days on a single charge. This is true on maximum power-saving mode, airplane mode on, WIFI off, minimal screen brightness, no media running. If you try to use this watch to stream music via BT, play a game, or watch a video on Youtube, you will quickly find that the battery level plummets quite readily.
Second, if you try to watch any video or run Google Maps on this watch, you'll not only notice a sudden drop in battery life but also the watch overheating. I assume it's because the phone wasn't designed w/ any meaningful way for heat to be dissipated.
(BTW, Google Maps is useless on this watch. It takes forever to load a map, let alone get any form of turn-by-turn directions. I tried downloading the maps, but the same thing happens. I'm assuming Maps is not optimized for this device. There's just too much battery drainage to justify using Maps on the watch when I could just run it on my smartphone.)
Third, I don't think the Android OS was meant to run on a device with such a small screen. The watch can switch between full-screen circular display and shrunken square display (to allow everything to fit on screen). But regardless of which you use, the screen is simply too small. Imagine tapping on a link on a webpage on your android smartphone. Now try to do the same thing with the webpage shrunken down to fit into that 1.39" Amoled screen. There are workarounds though, like pinch zooming to increase font size.
Fourth, there are no custom roms for this phone (last I checked). I can go on and on, like the smartwatch doesn't have BT calling, the GPS doesn't sync with Google Fit or other fitness apps, etc...but I think you get my point.
wallofbytes said:
Please, help me to find the best android smart watch. I need a powerful, reliable device, which can to replace a smartphone andy easy develop apps for them.
TLDR: I need an android smartwatch (no wear os, true android with open loader, etc), that supports SIM (mobile network), nfc (if possible), water protection (IP67/IP68), good hardware and battery. I searched in Chinese markets like Ali***ss.
I search for good models and opinions of these models users. My interest is a made in China device with true android as a replacement for typical budget smartphone (but with some specific watch's features like water protection). In ideal case, such watch will have a good mtk processor, 2+gb ram, water protection, bright display (amoled always on, if possible), nfc (in any implementation, if possible), high volume battery.
My typical use case are voice communication, notifications reading, management of other devices via their apps (TV, kitchen appliances in smart home, etc) and healthcare (with regular - continuous or one per 10 seconds pulse checks). How long an android smartwatch will work in this mode? How many hours working device I can get, if I will use skype/telegram/sip client for a hour, a hour of display use and other time idle (with pulse checking and network on to be in touch - for new notifications)?
I found some interesting devices:
IP67: lemfo lem8/lemX, kospet hope. Also found "kospet optimus/optimus pro", but I can''t understand the difference from them to hope/hope lite except specific design. How about chinese IP67? The standard guaranties 30 minutes of waterproof, but I don't know, can I trust the seller's promises? Can I take a shower or swim in such watches?
IP68: Kospet Brave, H7 4G, makibes m2.
Anyone know anything about these models, may be, some one used them? Take your review, comparison or opinion please. May be, you know better alternatives? Why I don't see abundance of roms/hacks for all mentioned above devices on this forum? Is it because they are new or they are not interesting to anyone?
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anybody tested the
KOSPET Prime 4G?
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anybody tested the
KOSPET Prime 4G?
Hey guys is there any way I can install a custom OS like Wear OS on my Noise Active Smart Watch? I don't like the OS that came up with this. any links or information to the correct resource is highly appreciated. I'm new to this world I did a bit of installing custom ROM on phones. Not sure It's possible. thanks!
I have this model.
NoiseFit Active Smartwatch
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I have same problem. Actually, i got this watch from gift but it doesn't count the steps correctly, It counted 10x. So, I want to flash my watch but don't know that it's available or not.