T-mobile has been announcing a variety of improvements to their LTE wireless network,:
4×2 MiMo, 15+15 and 20+20 LTE networks, 700 mhz.
Is any of this relevant to N4's running LTE? What about the N5?
kmandel said:
T-mobile has been announcing a variety of improvements to their LTE wireless network,:
4×2 MiMo, 15+15 and 20+20 LTE networks, 700 mhz.
Is any of this relevant to N4's running LTE? What about the N5?
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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I'm surprised at your answer. As far as frequency, I thought the N4 only had the hardware for LTE at 1700mhz. For 4x2Mimo I thought it depended on the antenna arrangement in the phone (as well as the tower). I don't know what factors are related to 15+15 and 20+20.
The answer I expected was no for N4 and possibly yes for N5.
The n4 definitely doesnt support 700mhz anything for lte, no existing device (officially) supports band 12, though many recent ones support band 17 (which does not help for band 12).
Weither or not it can do carrier aggregration on the same band in hardware: i doubt it can do it in software (this is just opinion until someone can test it with a terminal emulator).
Even more basic stuff like cell tower location services is broken while in LTE on the N4.
Multi band carrier aggregration definitely isnt possible as the N4 only "supports" a single band.
The S4pro and S600 (technically the MDM9x15M as they both use it) platform should only support a maximum of 2x2 MIMO as they're all only rated for LTE Cat 4 (E-UTRA - User Equipment (UE) categories - Wikipedia)
It's the S800 and newer that use the MDM9x25 and that supports LTE Cat 5, which includes 4 stream MIMO
Here in Italy I got LTE+ icon with TIM carrier but the speed is almost the same reached in classic LTE: 25mb/s download speed.
The same SIM card used in S7 edge reaches 95 mb/s.
With VODAFONE carrier, instead, I ve never seen the LTE+ icon but just LTE and the speed is about 20-25 mb/s.
Anyone want to share his experience?
Thanks!
Anyone?
LTE+ or 4G+ is at lest a higher form of channel bonding. Try dial code *0011#, *2263# should have band selection,(note this may not always work but did on my note5) it should bring up tower info. Band 2 is [email protected] when LTE+ you will have like band 4 not sure it might be [email protected], this channel bonds to 30mhz with the 20mhz becoming download only vs 10mhz for download and 10mhz upload. The band 4 or whatever your carrier chooses (I have AT&T we use Band 2 and Band 4 as our top bonding, I set Band 2 as favored for default, best performance) becomes the upload only. This makes a + environment like HSPA vs HSPA+.
TechNyne66 said:
LTE+ or 4G+ is at lest a higher form of channel bonding. Try dial code *0011#, *2263# should have band selection,(note this may not always work but did on my note5) it should bring up tower info. Band 2 is [email protected] when LTE+ you will have like band 4 not sure it might be [email protected], this channel bonds to 30mhz with the 20mhz becoming download only vs 10mhz for download and 10mhz upload. The band 4 or whatever your carrier chooses (I have AT&T we use Band 2 and Band 4 as our top bonding, I set Band 2 as favored for default, best performance) becomes the upload only. This makes a + environment like HSPA vs HSPA+.
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unfortunatelly these codes don't work in italy...
Ive got a couple of questions and wondering if anyone can help.
Gsmarena lists the note fe as cat12, dose anyone know if cat9 would be supported a cat12 device?
Prior to doing any mods on my n935s, i was not getting 4G+ or the highest data speeds using the EE UK network. On my G935F with the same sim card id would get 4G+ and higher data speeds. Im pretty sure that is due to the fact the S7 was able to make use of 3 cell carrier aggregation. The G935F is CAT 9.
I have installed TWRP on my N935S and then installed the Note 7 BTU CSC to see if my N935S can make use of 3CA, however nothing interms of data speeds has changed. I dont think the phone allows the 3CA connection. I can see from the specs that all the nessacery bands are supported by the N935S.
Does anyone have any ideas?
I'm eyeing this phone to replace my well worn S5. Does anyone know for sure if the x727 variant has the UMTS B4 1700/2100Mhz? The listings on the various Chinese sites are hit and miss, that's why I'm looking for first hand info. Based on my research the x720 appears to have 3G band 4, but it is unclear if the x727 does.
Thanks!
x727 is the NA version, which launched alongside the US version of Le Eco's online store. It supports B2/4/12 and VoLTE + WiFi calling on T-Mobile.
I'm planning to use it on Freedom Mobile in Canada on their 3G network (not LTE), that's why AWS band 4 on 3G is a requirement.
Thanks.
paradoxum said:
I'm planning to use it on Freedom Mobile in Canada on their 3G network (not LTE), that's why AWS band 4 on 3G is a requirement.
Thanks.
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T-Mobile US also relies on 1700/2100 AWS B4 for HSPA/UMTS. LTE discovery shows the LTE band, so I'm not sure how to do the same for HSPA.
I found the FCC application for the x727 and the SAR exposure report lists WCDMA band 4 @ 1700Mhz, so I'm good to go. Coincidentally it appears the device has the highest radiation level on that band.
page 4:
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=3160895
The full FCC application can be found here:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...d=tRbB27x6FnmQ5/KxMnrdWw==&fcc_id=2AFWMLEX727
Thanks for you help.
Does Max Pro M1 support Band 41 2500 Mhz?
In the specification its not mentioned. Any VF MH user tested this?
Vodafone maharashtra uses band 1 and band 41 for 4G, it will be a big setback if Band 41 is not supported by the phone.
Should i assume it doesn't support TDD Band 41? As no one told in affirmative?
Then Vodafone MH customers better avoid buying this phone, as High bandwidth 20Mhz Band 41 signal will not be pickedup by the phone in Maharashtra and Goa.
It will lead to low throughout issues in those places having good band 41 signal strength.
saumik.bose said:
Should i assume it doesn't support TDD Band 41? As no one told in affirmative?
Then Vodafone MH customers better avoid buying this phone, as High bandwidth 20Mhz Band 41 signal will not be pickedup by the phone in Maharashtra and Goa.
It will lead to low throughout issues in those places having good band 41 signal strength.
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Still not bad either as it supports 7 lte bands.
SumitGupta2442 said:
Still not bad either as it supports 7 lte bands.
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Agreed that 7 LTE bands supported, but my telco, Vodafone MH & Goa transmits LTE in only 2 bands:
Band 1 (5 Mhz Bandwidth DL)
Band 41 (20 Mhz Bandwidth DL)
hence its clear that only Band 41 can give quality throughput to Vodafone MH & GOA customers and not Band 1.
Its shameful that Max Pro M1 doesnt support Band 41 considering MH & Goa is a huge service area.
I am going for the elusive Redmi Note 5 Pro now, cancelled order for Max Pro M1 last week itself.
Thanks for your reply though.
Maybe I'm not reading this correctly, but when I use activity launcher to view what bands are available to enable, band N71 doesn't show as being enabled or a option to enable this. Comparing what shows as 5G on my McLaren vs my 7T show no difference at all between the two connections. Attaching the photo from what I'm looking at
This phone's 5G is currently non-standalone and probably difficult to configure. Or menus haven't kept up with the tech.
Could be the app needs an update to see it.
That being said on almost every speed test I have done today. My new iPhone pro xl is faster than the 1+7PT5GMCRN I think I’m sending mine back.
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chakra said:
Could be the app needs an update to see it.
That being said on almost every speed test I have done today. My new iPhone pro xl is faster than the 1+7PT5GMCRN I think I’m sending mine back.
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I am a T-Mobile Mobile Expert (ME).
The 5G band used by T-Mobile's OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren is the low band 600Mhz; this means that the range will be significantly increased per tower at about the same speeds as the 4G LTE speeds. Our low band 5G range is 100sq miles per tower.
sixxkilur said:
I am a T-Mobile Mobile Expert (ME).
The 5G band used by T-Mobile's OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren is the low band 600Mhz; this means that the range will be significantly increased per tower at about the same speeds as the 4G LTE speeds. Our low band 5G range is 100sq miles per tower.
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Thanks for the info. But how do I get my phone to actually display a 5G connection? I'm definitely within range. However, I only get 4G LTE to show.
js042507 said:
Thanks for the info. But how do I get my phone to actually display a 5G connection? I'm definitely within range. However, I only get 4G LTE to show.
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I have not received my 5G device yet; we have only the display McLaren; no Note10+ 5G's in store they are ship to only so I have not tinkered with the devices as of yet. I can take a look at the McLaren when I go in tomorrow and see if there are any settings that have to be enabled. To my understanding it was all done via signal detection and based on the area you are in. I will have a look and get back to you guys.
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I am a T-Mobile Mobile Expert (ME).
The 5G band used by T-Mobile's OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren is the low band 600Mhz; this means that the range will be significantly increased per tower at about the same speeds as the 4G LTE speeds. Our low band 5G range is 100sq miles per tower.
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Does 600mhz mean band 71? My phone shows 5G all the time but lte Discovery and signal spy say only band 2, 4, and 12. No 71, so why not?
aaronc_98 said:
Does 600mhz mean band 71? My phone shows 5G all the time but lte Discovery and signal spy say only band 2, 4, and 12. No 71, so why not?
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Yes "T-Mobile's 600 MHz Band 71 Network."
T-Mobile LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71 Frequencies 1900, 1700 def, 700 a, 600
See map for your coverage: 5g-coverage-map
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Yes "T-Mobile's 600 MHz Band 71 Network."
T-Mobile LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71 Frequencies 1900, 1700 def, 700 a, 600
See map for your coverage: 5g-coverage-map
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So why no band 71 if 5G is supposedly on the 600mhz network? What am missing?
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So why no band 71 if 5G is supposedly on the 600mhz network? What am missing?
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All three of these are part of 5G
T-Mobile has multiple 5G bands just not all of them are implemented on large scale across the nation yet. For example the millimeter wave spectrum above 24 GHz, it is also referred to as High Band.
"Millimeter wave is incredibly fast, but the signal does not travel very far from the tower and can be disrupted by trees and windows.
We currently have 5G millimeter wave available in 6 major cities.
Speed: Fastest.
Coverage: A couple city blocks."
"Mid Band consists of spectrum between 1 GHz and 8 GHz.
Mid Band has the benefit of being fast while also covering a larger area than millimeter Wave. The breadth of coverage is vast and still delivers a fast experience.
T-Mobile has not yet deployed Mid Band 5G service.
Speed: Fast."
'Low Band consists of spectrum under 1 GHz, this includes our new 600 MHz signal.
Our newest, most powerful 600 MHz low band signal is the foundation of our 5G network. No signal goes farther or is more reliable, so with T-Mobile you’ll get 5G in more places.
Our 600 MHz signal travels several miles from the tower so we have a wide footprint. The signal also penetrates walls and deep inside buildings so it’s better indoors.
Speed: Average.
Coverage: Hundreds of square miles from the tower."
chakra said:
Could be the app needs an update to see it.
That being said on almost every speed test I have done today. My new iPhone pro xl is faster than the 1+7PT5GMCRN I think I’m sending mine back.
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The speed difference for you is that drastic that you would return it? Was it purchased outright or you paying monthly into your bill? Curious since speed itsnt my main issue, it's the terrible GPS locking issues.
Looking at the configurations of the OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren in the store; the 5G only shows when WiFi is off. All of the other settings is automatic unless they have been changed manually. You can check the main configurations in Settings>Wifi>Sim>Preferred Network.
I have not been able to get my McLaren to show 5G at all only 4G LTE. I spoke to a store rep which told me there is currently a software bug preventing it from showing. But.... They didn't seem to be too sure how the signals actually work, even mentioned MmWave for some reason.... Could be straight BS, I will do some more testing later today. My speeds are faster but not sure if its because of actually being connected to the n71 or not.
savage25rcracer said:
I have not been able to get my McLaren to show 5G at all only 4G LTE. I spoke to a store rep which told me there is currently a software bug preventing it from showing. But.... They didn't seem to be too sure how the signals actually work, even mentioned MmWave for some reason.... Could be straight BS, I will do some more testing later today. My speeds are faster but not sure if its because of actually being connected to the n71 or not.
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At least I'm not the only one. I've played with all kinds of settings, but have never seen it show a 5g signal.
js042507 said:
At least I'm not the only one. I've played with all kinds of settings, but have never seen it show a 5g signal.
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I had same issue, after 30 minutes trying different things, what I did reset Wi-Fi data Bluetooth, phone comes with 2G/3G/LTE/5G by default so I click the second option 2G/3G/LTE and I reboot the phone after boot click the first 2G/3G/LTE/5G then reboot again now my phone shows 5G almost all the time
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I had same issue, after 30 minutes trying different things, what I did reset Wi-Fi data Bluetooth, phone comes with 2G/3G/LTE/5G by default so I click the second option 2G/3G/LTE and I reboot the phone after boot click the first 2G/3G/LTE/5G then reboot again now my phone shows 5G almost all the time
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Thanks for the tip. It didn't work though. :crying:
I got mine on Saturday, and I've had 5G without doing anything. Yeah, there's a few spots where it falls back to 4G LTE, but that's expected. I'm in southern California FYI.
Didn't work for me in Chicago north burbs.
K4laz said:
I had same issue, after 30 minutes trying different things, what I did reset Wi-Fi data Bluetooth, phone comes with 2G/3G/LTE/5G by default so I click the second option 2G/3G/LTE and I reboot the phone after boot click the first 2G/3G/LTE/5G then reboot again now my phone shows 5G almost all the time
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Tried with no luck. I wonder if this has to do with a software version, what is on yours?
savage25rcracer said:
Tried with no luck. I wonder if this has to do with a software version, what is on yours?
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I got the latest update on it I live in Grand rapids Michigan
I still use my 6 months old SIM