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Update 19 April

btw ATT users rejoice (update 19 April)
http://www.winrumors.com/exclusive-att-windows-phone-7-nodo-update-due-april-19

Wonder what the ATT special Features are... probably another free trial of their useless services.

yeah, it looks like they haven't heard any of us who bypassed them complaining of any problems, so they figure the beta test is complete.

I wonder if AT&T is also going to push the Samsung specific update that has been showing up on other networks.

Wondering same thing. Will we get a notification to update if we used the VPN method to update. (not the chevron)
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TOA Duck said:
Wondering same thing. Will we get a notification to update if we used the VPN method to update. (not the chevron)
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I wouldn't be surprised if you did. I guess we wait 3 days and see. I like what I've seen of NoDo. Now onto great anticipation of MANGO! (Or most likely an in between update termed Pre-Mango)

Wish our debranded focus also get the firmware update... That's all.
No thanks to the AT&T features...

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No thanks to the AT&T features...
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Can't this «features» contain an updated Audience noise suppression chip driver?

Not worth the wait (and sooo glad I did the VPN hack update)
Apparently the ATT exclusive *features* they are adding is a WISPr protocol that switches you to login into att wifi hotspots automatically when near one. To save you (and them) data bandwidth.
The other feature is to allow you to sync your contacts with your att address book. Even lamer.
So yes ATT made you wait this long for nothing.
Lesson learned. Always rely on the fans and community for support, not the ones you have a contract with.
Source: http://wmpoweruser.com/att-unique-features-coming-with-nodo-update-revealed/

Agreed. I could care less if I get a notification now or not.
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asiancuta said:
and sooo glad I did the VPN hack update
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how do i do that?

You guys may never know. This update might hav special bug fixes. We'll see tomorrow.
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Freddy2Fred said:
You guys may never know. This update might hav special bug fixes. We'll see tomorrow.
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Waiting... waiting... anyone get the AT+T update yet?

No update for me yet...anyone?

goose egg here.

same here nada, I guess I will try again when I get home

I hope no one here is expecting any kind of miracle with this update. I have seen nodo on other platforms and honestly, other than cut & paste I dont see the difference.

hx4700 Killer said:
I hope no one here is expecting any kind of miracle with this update. I have seen nodo on other platforms and honestly, other than cut & paste I dont see the difference.
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marketplace...

tfouto said:
marketplace...
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bluetooth driver update?

I had done the unbranding then got the NODO usiong the VPN method. I am on ATT. I just plugged my phon einto Zune and it shows a Samsung update is available. I am updating now. I am guessing it showed my phone was already on NODO then went on to the Samsung.

KitKat Rolling Out on Rogers

Ran a software update check this morning on my Rogers Note3, after my friend mentioned he got KitKat on his Bell S4 on the weekend. Sure enough, 400+MB update was available.
Servers were slow (both my home Wi-Fi and LTE were getting the same speed. Took about an hour to download). Install went smoothly and only took 2-3 minutes. And KitKat it is.
I'm using Nova Launcher, so the only immediately visible change is that all the icons in the status bar are plain white. Otherwise, I perused through the system settings and didn't see much that was different beyond the addition of a "Printing" option under Connections > More networks, and the odd change here and there. However, things do feel smoother and basic stuff like unlocking the device has no lag at all.

Just a quick note, also available for Telus this morning...

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Just a quick note, also available for Telus this morning...
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Am wondering. I am rooted with knox 0x0 on 4.4.2 using the mexican telcel rom form a cpl months back and the old modem from 4.3 mj4.
I want to get latest KK from Rogers while maintaining root. SO I cant do an update this way. Is there a way to flash just the modem and sytem files form this update ot get me to latest version of things without wiping all my data?

I'm just wondering. Why is it because Bell and Rogers note 3 gets KitKat that at&t note 3 gets KitKat? Not trying to be a smartass or anything but does one of them own the other or something?
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tylercarter said:
I'm just wondering. Why is it because Bell and Rogers note 3 gets KitKat that at&t note 3 gets KitKat? Not trying to be a smartass or anything but does one of them own the other or something?
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I'm not really sure what you mean?
Bell, Rogers and Telus all use the same versions of most phones as what AT&T in the U.S. offer, as their networks share the same spectrum ranges. So when the manufacturer of a phone (Samsung) releases an OS update for an AT&T model phone, all four companies then have access to that and can tweak that update and release it to their customers when they wish. Typically (though not always) that means that all of the companies release updates to their customers around roughly the same time.

saltorio said:
I'm not really sure what you mean?
Bell, Rogers and Telus all use the same versions of most phones as what AT&T in the U.S. offer, as their networks share the same spectrum ranges. So when the manufacturer of a phone (Samsung) releases an OS update for an AT&T model phone, all four companies then have access to that and can tweak that update and release it to their customers when they wish. Typically (though not always) that means that all of the companies release updates to their customers around roughly the same time.
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You answered my question perfectly. Thanks! Hope to see KitKat on my note 3 soon.
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the way things are going cricket wireless will have kitkat for the note 3 before at&t and they probably don't even have the note 3 in their line up. you know its bad when sprint gets the update before us.

dligon said:
the way things are going cricket wireless will have kitkat for the note 3 before at&t and they probably don't even have the note 3 in their line up. you know its bad when sprint gets the update before us.
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Yeah I wonder what the holdup is.
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I talked to my source and he said that AT&T already has the update but they are currently in the process of figuring out the maximum amount of bloatware they could add before phone stops booting.

NICE! !!! ? lmao
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I upgraded to urdroid rom ... just to minimize the trolling banter just wanted all to know it works great for me. Not many visible differences but the feel is all you need to tell.
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Walter.White said:
I talked to my source and he said that AT&T already has the update but they are currently in the process of figuring out the maximum amount of bloatware they could add before phone stops booting.
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LOL :laugh: :highfive: It would be nice to have someone on the inside leaking info like that for us.

Walter.White said:
I talked to my source and he said that AT&T already has the update but they are currently in the process of figuring out the maximum amount of bloatware they could add before phone stops booting.
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I just wonder if they actually believe people use all or any of their bloatware. if their products were in a store it would be already marked down and discontinued.

I unrooted my Rogers Note 3 with Kingo and managed to download the update file on my device. Once I began the install it failed and rebooted. Any ideas?

Wait! Your telling me there are different apps out there that are not from at&t? Every aspect of the phone can be used by an AT&T app.
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Fixed! Used Kies and update worked. Anyone try Kingo to now root 4.4.2?

Lol. I got a kick out of that. Sounds a lot like something AT&T would do.
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I talked to my source and he said that AT&T already has the update but they are currently in the process of figuring out the maximum amount of bloatware they could add before phone stops booting.
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Just update to kit kat . Phone can't read or mount sdcard . need help please non-rooted

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/03/17/galaxy-note-3-android-4-4-kitkat-release-fast-pace/
I love the start of the second paragraph apparently no one must have gave At&t the memo about how fast the update was suppose to come out and we're suppose to have the fastest network of course but the slowest upgrades.

Just updated mine. Noticed a massive spike in android OS usage. Did a factory reset and ST card format
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Stagefright Vulnerabilities

Is someone more technical than me able to tell me if the stock 5.0.1 Tmobile has us on vulnerable to this?
http://blog.zimperium.com/experts-found-a-unicorn-in-the-heart-of-android/

Yes. Even the nexus 5 on 5.1.1 is still vulnerable. Google has already distributed a patch to all carriers, but as far as I know, none of the carriers have actually released it. The only patched rom so far is the most recent cyanogenmod 12.1 nightlies

acdcflame said:
Yes. Even the nexus 5 on 5.1.1 is still vulnerable. Google has already distributed a patch to all carriers, but as far as I know, none of the carriers have actually released it. The only patched rom so far is the most recent cyanogenmod 12.1 nightlies
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Switched to the CM nightly today. It's going to take for ever for Samsung to get this patch of there.
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Turn off auto retrieve in mms settings of you messaging app and only accept vids and pics from close friends! It's an annoyance but it'll keep you safe for now!

I have also heard you can just use hangouts as your default text app and avoid the issue all together.
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ShrekOpher said:
I have also heard you can just use hangouts as your default text app and avoid the issue all together.
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I'm not so sure seeing as it centers around that video being downloaded with the virus automatically before you even open it but if true that would be nice!

Dvanzutphenkann said:
I'm not so sure seeing as it centers around that video being downloaded with the virus automatically before you even open it but if true that would be nice!
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Hangouts uses a cloud based system to handle mms. Basically everything goes through Google Photos. The pictures and videos are the loaded to you phone once you click on them. As long as you dont click on a video or picture from someone you dont know, it would never reach your phone and thus not be an issue.
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ShrekOpher said:
Hangouts uses a cloud based system to handle mms. Basically everything goes through Google Photos. The pictures and videos are the loaded to you phone once you click on them. As long as you dont click on a video or picture from someone you dont know, it would never reach your phone and thus not be an issue.
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Do you have a link to a reference on that?
I ask this because the guys that originally found the exploit stated that depending on what SMS app you use, you may not even know you were infected, hangouts being one of those.
(Joshua) Drake found that when the exploit code was opened in Google Hangouts it would “trigger immediately before you even look at your phone… before you even get the notification”.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/07/27/android-text-attacks/

pcriz said:
Do you have a link to a reference on that?
I ask this because the guys that originally found the exploit stated that depending on what SMS app you use, you may not even know you were infected, hangouts being one of those.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/07/27/android-text-attacks/
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Drake found that when the exploit code was opened in*Google Hangouts it would “trigger immediately before you even look at your phone… before you even get the notification”
The above is true, but hangouts allows you to approve the messages which hold them in photos before they are delivered. You can also block all sms message that are not from contacts in hangouts.
See the screen shot below. The stock messaging app on many android phones does not have this option.
Also hangouts can be updated without a carrier approval so they will address it in the next update. The infamous hangouts 4.0.
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ShrekOpher said:
Drake found that when the exploit code was opened in*Google Hangouts it would “trigger immediately before you even look at your phone… before you even get the notification”
The above is true, but hangouts allows you to approve the messages which hold them in photos before they are delivered. You can also block all sms message that are not from contacts in hangouts.
See the screen shot below. The stock messaging app on many android phones does not have this option.
Also hangouts can be updated without a carrier approval so they will address it in the next update. The infamous hangouts 4.0.
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I suppose the clarification I wanted to get out there is that this isnt some inherently present functionality without some forethought to change those settings. So hangouts like any other text app needs to be made secure enough to prevent the exploit if you are not running a patched build. Just making sure the people reading don't get a false sense of security simply because they are using Hangouts.

pcriz said:
I suppose the clarification I wanted to get out there is that this isnt some inherently present functionality without some forethought to change those settings. So hangouts like any other text app needs to be made secure enough to prevent the exploit if you are not running a patched build. Just making sure the people reading don't get a false sense of security simply because they are using Hangouts.
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In all reality this is just a puff piece to try and make Apple who is losing market share look more secure and to get this Drake guys name in some press. The threat HAS NOT BEEN SEEN IN THE WILD, and its very likely Drake is the only one to ever produce it.
Its also very low class to unveil a zero day exploit that you know hasn't been patched and that no one else has found. Dude just wants the fame, in reality no one is at risk as long as it gets patched in the near future (months) . And if that douche would have kept his mouth shut and just let Google know and not the press none of us would have been at risk at all.
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ShrekOpher said:
In all reality this is just a puff piece to try and make Apple who is losing market share look more secure and to get this Drake guys name in some press. The threat HAS NOT BEEN SEEN IN THE WILD, and its very likely Drake is the only one to ever produce it.
Its also very low class to unveil a zero day exploit that you know hasn't been patched and that no one else has found. Dude just wants the fame, in reality no one is at risk as long as it gets patched in the near future (months) . And if that douche would have kept his mouth shut and just let Google know and not the press none of us would have been at risk at all.
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It's not even really about Google dropping the ball after the fact. Google has already released the patch, it just hasn't been implemented across the various OEMs. Just because it has yet to be exploited doesnt mean it shouldn't be brought to light. In fact the exploit was found in APRIL and the article I cited was posted June 27th. Also Google has its own team of software nerds that do this very thing. Find vulnerabilities in software and give the authors a window to respond before publishing it. Of course the last 0day exploited posted to google for windows 8.1 was published 90 days after its finding but the person who found it NEVER contacted Microsoft..
This is why I would be weary of trying to call this dude out as starved for attention when our beloved Google does the same thing his firm does.
I'm sorry but I am all for transparency when it comes to security issues no matter how big or small. Especially in this mobile world we live in.

And now more potential hackers have been made aware of this.

StageFright defense
ChompSMS has patched their sms app from running StageFright, fingers crossed, you will see the explanation when you search PS for it
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pcriz said:
It's not even really about Google dropping the ball after the fact. Google has already released the patch, it just hasn't been implemented across the various OEMs. Just because it has yet to be exploited doesnt mean it shouldn't be brought to light. In fact the exploit was found in APRIL and the article I cited was posted June 27th. Also Google has its own team of software nerds that do this very thing. Find vulnerabilities in software and give the authors a window to respond before publishing it. Of course the last 0day exploited posted to google for windows 8.1 was published 90 days after its finding but the person who found it NEVER contacted Microsoft..
This is why I would be weary of trying to call this dude out as starved for attention when our beloved Google does the same thing his firm does.
I'm sorry but I am all for transparency when it comes to security issues no matter how big or small. Especially in this mobile world we live in.
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I'm with you, what's really hilarious is that when I called the nation's largest carrier, and as usual I was transferred 3 times for a simple question, no one knew of the SF exploit, what does the word EMAIL or MEMO mean again Verizon??

Sprint released their patch specifically for stagefright...
The other major carriers will soon follow!
Do not download the Korean version released today 910t3...
You may be sorry!
But that's just my 2 cents...

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Yes. Even the nexus 5 on 5.1.1 is still vulnerable. Google has already distributed a patch to all carriers, but as far as I know, none of the carriers have actually released it. The only patched rom so far is the most recent cyanogenmod 12.1 nightlies
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So would the latest cm nightly rom from here be good to go? http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-temaseks-unofficial-cm12-0-build-v9-t3066174

There is an app called stage fright detector in the playstore that can tell you if you are vulnerable.
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Missing some Advanced Features from settings...

Is anyone else missing some features from the advance feature menus on the verizon s7 edge? I was looking for the switch for the app drawer removal and the switch for the white pages caller id. Is there any way to sideload with out rooting? I cannot root i use samsung pay everyday.

Verizon has removed the white pages feature.

Any way to enable them like you can with adaptive storage?
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Coming from an iPhone 5s to this thing and I am again reminded of carrier tampering and bloatware on Android phones. Seriously, why would Verizon not allow users to try out the app drawer removal option?

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Any way to enable them like you can with adaptive storage?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/help/enable-white-pages-hopefully-t3333735
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/help/enable-white-pages-hopefully-t3333735
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FYI - This doesn't actually do anything. It will say you've turned it on, but it doesn't work.

They also removed the auto restart feature.

I finally have 7.0 on my Verizon GS7 Edge. I know Verizon blocks some Samsung​ features, but I was wondering if anyone has a list of everything that is missing. Unfortunately, this is a work phone, so I can't just switch carriers. I had the Note 7 with T-Mobile, but we all know how that turned out. Rather than carrying 2 S7 Edge phones I decided to cancel my line with T-Mo and just rock the one phone for a while. Now I'm wondering if that was a mistake.
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For everybody upset about the removal of features, wait for the 7.0 U firmware and flash it.

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For everybody upset about the removal of features, wait for the 7.0 U firmware and flash it.
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If it ever comes LOL

Hey, just be happy they didn't remove the GPS, phone-dialer, SMS and the clock - and then offer to sell them back to you [VZ Clock, VZ GPS, VZ Phone, etc.]
Hell, I'm kind of surprised they don't remove the entire Android OS and offer to sell THAT back to you for a monthly fee.

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If it ever comes LOL
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It will. XDA as a whole is just a bunch of impatient whiners, and I've been here a long time.
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Hey, just be happy they didn't remove the GPS, phone-dialer, SMS and the clock - and then offer to sell them back to you [VZ Clock, VZ GPS, VZ Phone, etc.]
Hell, I'm kind of surprised they don't remove the entire Android OS and offer to sell THAT back to you for a monthly fee.
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Well, they do have VZ Nav, and I'm honestly surprised they haven't blocked Google Maps from their branded devices. Back in the early days of Android, they actually didn't ship them with Maps, though you could still install it later.

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It will. XDA as a whole is just a bunch of impatient whiners, and I've been here a long time.
Well, they do have VZ Nav, and I'm honestly surprised they haven't blocked Google Maps from their branded devices. Back in the early days of Android, they actually didn't ship them with Maps, though you could still install it later.
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I remember on my Omnia Verizon locked the GPS, it worked only With VZNav. Definitely a shady company.
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On a related note, is there a repository of apk files for all stock apps in the 935U firmware? I might try installing P the app alone.
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you could see if this work for whitepages if you are rooted
https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-s7-edge/themes/whitepages-att-stock-fw-t3431054

Update AQG4 is out

Got this today

Downloading now.
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The ability to hide the navigation bar is nice.
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Yeah, except the ability to really choose it's color beyond some very fluffy defaults, is gone.

Anyone been able to install daydream? This update was supposed to enable it for us but I can't install from the play store, still "unavailable." Sideloading the apk, it launches but gets to a point in setup that says the phone is not daydream ready. I could use daydream on my rooted HTC 10 and was really looking forward to having it back

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Anyone been able to install daydream? This update was supposed to enable it for us but I can't install from the play store, still "unavailable." Sideloading the apk, it launches but gets to a point in setup that says the phone is not daydream ready. I could use daydream on my rooted HTC 10 and was really looking forward to having it back
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Maybe it's something Google has to flip a switch on. The update just puts the groundwork in place and then Google has to add the device to a "blessed" list. Just a thought.

That's what I was thinking, I figured with the update being today and the latest apk on apkmirror being july 13th, they neex to update the app itself

Any other changes?
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Maybe it's something Google has to flip a switch on. The update just puts the groundwork in place and then Google has to add the device to a "blessed" list. Just a thought.
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Any other changes?
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So far just the supposed daydream support, hideable nav bar, and what ever the stupid send a gif during calls is

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Yeah, except the ability to really choose it's color beyond some very fluffy defaults, is gone.
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Yeah WTF. I want my black nav bar back. This limited color is BS. And WTF is MY Verizon. Guided Navigation under Accessibility options ???
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Hasherx1 said:
Yeah WTF. I want my black man bar back. This limited color is BS. And WTF is MY Verizon. Guided Navigation under Accessibility options ???
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I'm pissed with the lack of a transparent nav bar now! So I either have to be supremely annoyed swiping up every time I want to back out of an app, screen, etc... to have a normal colored nav bar....or deal with a bs solid one???? WTF verizon???? Which idiot thought this was a good idea!
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I'm pissed with the lack of a transparent nav bar now! So I either have to be supremely annoyed swiping up every time I want to back out of an app, screen, etc... to have a normal colored nav bar....or deal with a bs solid one???? WTF verizon???? Which idiot thought this was a good idea!
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Well going to Best Buy to check out the unlocked version and see if it is different. If so buying it and dumping this Verizon version. I am tired of a provider having control over what is put on a device via firmware updates. I paid for the phone.
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Hasherx1 said:
Well going to Best Buy to check out the unlocked version and see if it is different. If so buying it and dumping this Verizon version. I am tired of a provider having control over what is put on a device via firmware updates. I paid for the phone.
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Well bought the SM-G955U1 and no more verizon crap. So far only missing Wi-Fi calling and I can live without that. Hopefully no more wierd updates. They can keep them.
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As a follow up on this issue. It appears that the T-Mobile version also was updated with the same nav bar updates. So I contacted Samsung and with no surprise was just told Samsung is always updating firmwarer to enhance your experience. They could not state whether the same changes would come to the unlocked version. So I have 15 days to determine whether to return the unlocked one and figure out what this may make me do with the verizon version. I might be able to tolerate it but I am tired of paying large sums of money and having no control or say on what is added or removed from my device. I don't rant much but the idea of sneaking in some little change without noting it in update descriptions is not good business practice.
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Hasherx1 said:
As a follow up on this issue. It appears that the T-Mobile version also was updated with the same nav bar updates. So I contacted Samsung and with no surprise was just told Samsung is always updating firmwarer to enhance your experience. They could not state whether the same changes would come to the unlocked version. So I have 15 days to determine whether to return the unlocked one and figure out what this may make me do with the verizon version. I might be able to tolerate it but I am tired of paying large sums of money and having no control or say on what is added or removed from my device. I don't rant much but the idea of sneaking in some little change without noting it in update descriptions is not good business practice.
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Sadly, I think the navbar color limitation will come to all models. I think they're doing this to try and reduce burn in. The color choice is so mild/mixed that it won't tax the pixels to as much of a total on/off state. It keeps them in line with the rest of the screen use. That's my theory anyway.

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Sadly, I think the navbar color limitation will come to all models. I think they're doing this to try and reduce burn in. The color choice is so mild/mixed that it won't tax the pixels to as much of a total on/off state. It keeps them in line with the rest of the screen use. That's my theory anyway.
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Yes, after reading numerous articles I agree. As George Carlin said. " There is club....and you and I ain't in it." (Paraphrased). So we just take what we get . Still debating the worth of this unlocked phone though.
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I'm noticing since the update and possibly since the "Samsung Always on update" my Verizon S8+ seems to be warm in the back of the phone. The phone just seems to stay warm. My cpu temperature with no activity and the phone in my pocket is a constant 39.9-40.4 . I do use the "always on display", but can never ever remember my phone being warm all the time like that when I pull it out of my pocket. Strangely enough when removed from my pocket and in use the phone starts feeling cooler, cpu temperature at first going to 44.2, but with more use going down to 40.2. I've always had the setting to keep the screen off when the phone is in my pocket enabled.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
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Download the firmware here
https://www.androidfilehost.com/user/?w=settings-dev-files&flid=199802

Ya the Navbar is totally screwed up after this update. I'm going to have to revert to the previous build
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Hasherx1 said:
As a follow up on this issue. It appears that the T-Mobile version also was updated with the same nav bar updates. So I contacted Samsung and with no surprise was just told Samsung is always updating firmwarer to enhance your experience. They could not state whether the same changes would come to the unlocked version. So I have 15 days to determine whether to return the unlocked one and figure out what this may make me do with the verizon version. I might be able to tolerate it but I am tired of paying large sums of money and having no control or say on what is added or removed from my device. I don't rant much but the idea of sneaking in some little change without noting it in update descriptions is not good business practice.
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Good luck with the return. I tried to return my phone and ended up with nothing but lip service. I called four different times and was told four different times that a return shipping label would be e-mailed to me within five business days. Well....that was a month ago and I'm still waiting for that e-mail!!