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Sprint Does Bloatware Right

I really like how Sprint installs the vast majority of a device's bloatware after you set up the device. It means you can simply uninstall it and it's actually gone. It's not just disabled or frozen. I understand the business reasons behind bloatware and of course I'd prefer it not be there at all. That said, since it isn't going away, I wish all carriers would adopt Sprint's method rather than cluttering up the system partition with it. Thoughts?
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Agreed. I've been with them awhile now and they are really easing up on it recently.
I guess this helps them get the product out faster since they don't need to bake these programs in the ROM anymore.

The most recent update I received (I've had like 3 of them already) pushed the additional bloatware, but when I try to uninstall it, it doesn't give the option. Can't wait until we can root this thing.

UPSGuy said:
Can't wait until we can root this thing.
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We can, the T Mob version works, but I would proceed with caution afterwards since we don't have a ROM image to flash if things go south.
I've just been tweaking stuff... Until I can actually remove it and not worry.

I was able to uninstall everything except Lookout, Sprint ID, and Sprint Zone. We are talking about all the extra apps installed by Sprint. This doesn't apply to the additional Samsung apps.
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Itchiee said:
We can, the T Mob version works, but I would proceed with caution afterwards since we don't have a ROM image to flash if things go south.
I've just been tweaking stuff... Until I can actually remove it and not worry.
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How many people have successfully used the t-mob on the sprint note 4?

Me, and two others.
It does break system updates but we'll have downloadable roms soon enough.

Itchiee said:
That's the Note 3, don't use.
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Yeah, realized after I posted it and edited post.

I can't uninstall or freeze Evernote either.
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Evernote is an app that Samsung preinstalls. It's highly integrated with S-Note, which is why you can't disable it. Same with Flipboard.
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Just the same as carrier branding on sprints phones... there is little to none. I like it that way. I dont go walking down the street, see someone with a huge wart of a verizon logo on the phone and say to myself, "im getting Verizon". Its rediculous that carriers have to put their big old stamp on otherwise beutiful hardware. Same goes for software. I dont see the point in 20 apps that simply take you to the carriers website. Sprint has its share of bloat but its not nearly as bad as others.

Agreed. When it comes to bloatware, AT&T is by far the worst. I owned their Galaxy S5 and there were 17 apps that were specifically installed by AT&T. They even preinstall an app called ReadyToGo which replaces the standard welcome/setup screen (when you turn the device on for the first time) with one that's got AT&T's brand all over it. That's just obscene.
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I'm shocked at the lack of "bloat" on this phone. Almost all the Sprint apps are easily uninstalled, but what gets me is the lack of Samsung apps. First time ever I don't have a Samsung folder full of their apps. I actually opened Galaxy App and installed a few just to see whats going on..........

jauger said:
I'm shocked at the lack of "bloat" on this phone. Almost all the Sprint apps are easily uninstalled, but what gets me is the lack of Samsung apps. First time ever I don't have a Samsung folder full of their apps. I actually opened Galaxy App and installed a few just to see whats going on..........
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needs MOAR bloat ........ said no one ever

fatboypup said:
needs MOAR bloat ........ said no one ever
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I read his post and I saw no way to interpret it as him advocating for more bloatware. That post was made out of happiness at how little there is.
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oldblue910 said:
I read his post and I saw no way to interpret it as him advocating for more bloatware. That post was made out of happiness at how little there is.
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i know ....... im just having some fun

fatboypup said:
i know ....... im just having some fun
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Sorry. Didn't mean to sound like a prick.
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oldblue910 said:
Sorry. Didn't mean to sound like a prick.
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ive NEVER seen a prick on XDA .........
See what I did there?! haha Cheers!:highfive:

fatboypup said:
needs MOAR bloat ........ said no one ever
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Do I really want a S5 port on my nice new shiny Note 4?? lol

jauger said:
Do I really want a S5 port on my nice new shiny Note 4?? lol
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Sure, why not?
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Verizon Bloat in 5.1

Looks like Verizon somehow got their backup bloat into the Nexus 6 5.1 image. I am on AT&T and have the backup app with Verizon's logo for it.
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stooley said:
Looks like Verizon somehow got their backup bloat into the Nexus 6 5.1 image. I am on AT&T and have the backup app with Verizon's logo for it.
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That is disgusting to see. Then again, like SprintDM, the phones will have all of this so that all the models with have the same OS and therefore one model for all networks.

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Looks like Verizon somehow got their backup bloat into the Nexus 6 5.1 image. I am on AT&T and have the backup app with Verizon's logo for it.
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Somehow I think you'll survive.
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Can it be uninstalled?
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Doesn't look like Verizon. file name says com.motorola.android.buacontactadapter

Yup, go to Accounts and click Add Account, you'll see 2 Verizon items in there, Backup and Verizon!!!! I'm on a T-Mobile Nexus 6 too. Grrrr
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Doesn't look like Verizon. file name says com.motorola.android.buacontactadapter
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It's the same backup assistant my gf had on her Razr M from Verizon.

nxt said:
Yup, go to Accounts and click Add Account, you'll see 2 Verizon items in there, Backup and Verizon!!!! I'm on a T-Mobile Nexus 6 too. Grrrr
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It's the same backup assistant my gf had on her Razr M from Verizon.
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When I click add, I see backup but I don't see Verizon. I click on backup and it just goes to a blank account screen. I definitely don't doubt you but I just thought it was odd it has Motorola in the process name.

biggiestuff said:
When I click add, I see backup but I don't see Verizon. I click on backup and it just goes to a blank account screen. I definitely don't doubt you but I just thought it was odd it has Motorola in the process name.
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You know what, I think Verizon shows up because I have the My Fios app installed, yeah that's why.

My Nexus 6 has this App and I didn't buy it in the US (nor do I use it there).
It's very disappointing to see stuff like that which can't be disabled.
There's also something called "VZWAPN"

Daveoc64 said:
My Nexus 6 has this App and I didn't buy it in the US (nor do I use it there).
It's very disappointing to see stuff like that which can't be disabled.
There's also something called "VZWAPN"
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YUCK. The worst part is you can't even disable it or uninstall it. OH well it's going right next to SprintDM in titanium backup frozen hell

There's SprintDM and T-Mobile MyAccount too, on mine. Sounds like the risk of having a single update for all carriers is you gotta have the stuff for all carriers in it. I wonder if the factory image will have this stuff.

SolsticeZero said:
There's SprintDM and T-Mobile MyAccount too, on mine. Sounds like the risk of having a single update for all carriers is you gotta have the stuff for all carriers in it. I wonder if the factory image will have this stuff.
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Exactly. People need to get over this.

Think isn't that bad ?
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stas333 said:
Exactly. People need to get over this.
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Yeah, it's really not bad. It's not like the apps are even being used at all. I mean, you can always delete the apks with a file manager if it hurts that much.

SolsticeZero said:
There's SprintDM and T-Mobile MyAccount too, on mine. Sounds like the risk of having a single update for all carriers is you gotta have the stuff for all carriers in it. I wonder if the factory image will have this stuff.
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The t-mobile one you can uninstall. I don't have that one on my phone. The sprintDM and verizon backup wouldn't be such a big deal if it was just on the phone but the fact that it runs in the background is the annoying part for me. I'll probably end up needing that Verizon one as I plan on swapping my VZ and Tmobile sims from time to time. I hope 5.1 allows me to just swap the sim in instead of factory resetting the phone.

biggiestuff said:
The t-mobile one you can uninstall. I don't have that one on my phone. The sprintDM and verizon backup wouldn't be such a big deal if it was just on the phone but the fact that it runs in the background is the annoying part for me. I'll probably end up needing that Verizon one as I plan on swapping my VZ and Tmobile sims from time to time. I hope 5.1 allows me to just swap the sim in instead of factory resetting the phone.
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All you have to do is switch sims, no need to reset. Also you have 3 GB of ram in the phone. You'll be OK.
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david279 said:
All you have to do is switch sims, no need to reset. Also you have 3 GB of ram in the phone. You'll be OK.
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Good to hear they fixed that in 5.1 . every ounce of RAM counts hahaha. I'm just OCD when it comes to memory management hahaha.

biggiestuff said:
YUCK. The worst part is you can't even disable it or uninstall it. OH well it's going right next to SprintDM in titanium backup frozen hell
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Wow, people. You should really listen to yourselves. When you have a device that works on multiple carriers, there are ALWAYS going to be carrier specific libraries in order to make things work. Yes, there's a VZWAPN APK. Yes, there's a SprintDM APK, there are also US Cellular-specific APKs in there, and there's probably some very T-Mobile and AT&T specific code if you want to dig for it. Christ, people. You have a phone that works on just about every network in the history of the world. Do you think that all happens just like magic without any involvement from any carrier at all?
And for those of you outside the US, clearly Google doesn't want to have to manage two separate ROMs for the Nexus 6 just over a few APKs, so yeah, your ROM is going to have APKs for US based carriers in it too. Somehow, I think you'll survive.
Come on, now. I know y'all are smarter than this.

I think its funny people are calling it bloat. Like its bing maps, skype or the samsung S apps.

oldblue910 said:
Wow, people. You should really listen to yourselves. When you have a device that works on multiple carriers, there are ALWAYS going to be carrier specific libraries in order to make things work. Yes, there's a VZWAPN APK. Yes, there's a SprintDM APK, there are also US Cellular-specific APKs in there, and there's probably some very T-Mobile and AT&T specific code if you want to dig for it. Christ, people. You have a phone that works on just about every network in the history of the world. Do you think that all happens just like magic without any involvement from any carrier at all?
And for those of you outside the US, clearly Google doesn't want to have to manage two separate ROMs for the Nexus 6 just over a few APKs, so yeah, your ROM is going to have APKs for US based carriers in it too. Somehow, I think you'll survive.
Come on, now. I know y'all are smarter than this.
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We are smarter than that. That's why we freeze it. . It's just one of the things friends ask me is. Why do you like nexus phones and why should I switch? I tell them that nexus phones don't have all that bloatware carrier phones come with. And while it's still free of bloatware for the most part, I hope it's not a trend in the wrong direction. If they can install carrier apps depending on what carrier Sim, why weren't they able to keep these apps carrier specific? It's not THAT big of a deal for now but like I said I hope it doesn't go in the wrong direction.
My theory is that eventually the upcoming Google wireless service will be compatible across all 4 carriers. Imagine never having a coverage issue because you have a phone that works on all 4 concurrently with one service.

Verizon WILL NOT DELAY UPDATES

seezar said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...hd-voice-will-work-pixel-phones-google-store/
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Good news keeps coming.

seezar said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...hd-voice-will-work-pixel-phones-google-store/
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Very cool. Didn't know that!
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Maybe next they will even let us unlock the boot loader for the verizon model too lol

razor237 said:
Maybe next they will even let us unlock the boot loader for the verizon model too lol
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That will never happen. And firmware images from Google are not going to be signed to flash to the Verizon-locked phones. Because Verizon knows people will try and do that.

xocomaox said:
That will never happen. And firmware images from Google are not going to be signed to flash to the Verizon-locked phones. Because Verizon knows people will try and do that.
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Oh I know that just joking around lol

So basically all Verizon will do is sign the updates. They would do this in order to lock down the device.

xocomaox said:
That will never happen. And firmware images from Google are not going to be signed to flash to the Verizon-locked phones. Because Verizon knows people will try and do that.
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Does that mean I wont be able flash custom roms?
I know the answer just hate it didnt dawn on me before buying from Verizon:crying:

JasonJoel said:
Really? It doesn't on the Nexus 6P... Unless I'm mistaken...
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I bought two Nexus 6p's through Google and used both of them on Verizon. Volte worked on both! Soooo
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they gotta say something to get you into the store so they can try to upsell you their crap & services they offer while buying this phone.. it’s Verizon, can’t trust them at all till you see it happen...i remeber when the HTC Rezound was promised ICS "shortly after launch" and didn’t get it for another 9 months.

Now correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Verizon branded nexus 6 have an unlockable bootloader? And I can confirm the unlocked version of the nexus 6 having fully working volte minus video calling on Verizon

You guys are silly if you believe them. Research the last time Verizon had a Nexus.
Why in the world would Verizon want to handle updates other than to alter, add bloat and remove features they csn charge you for.
I will say. Getting a free Google VR headset with pre order is tempting
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Rippley05 said:
You guys are silly if you believe them. Research the last time Verizon had a Nexus.
Why in the world would Verizon want to handle updates other than to alter, add bloat and remove features they csn charge you for.
I will say. Getting a free Google VR headset with pre order is tempting
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You get a free vr headset if you preorder directly with Google too.
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seezar said:
You get a free vr headset if you preorder directly with Google too.
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Right, but i cant pay full price and Google won't finance anyone with credit less than Jesus
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shotguntheenforcer said:
Does that mean I wont be able flash custom roms?
I know the answer just hate it didnt dawn on me before buying from Verizon:crying:
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Yes. Unless someone cracks the bootloader. Verizon carries all the government contracts so they will never knowingly allow unlocked phones on their network. Honestly though I doubt you will find a more streamlined experience than stock Android on the Pixel. It was designed to run 7.1. I doubt any ROM will improve on it. The fact that Google is in control of the software as well means you will always be on the latest version.

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Yes. Unless someone cracks the bootloader. Verizon carries all the government contracts so they will never knowingly allow unlocked phones on their network. Honestly though I doubt you will find a more streamlined experience than stock Android on the Pixel. It was designed to run 7.1. I doubt any ROM will improve on it. The fact that Google is in control of the software as well means you will always be on the latest version.
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But Google is not in control. Just because Verizon says they'll release at same time
A. Doesn't mean they will. They've lied before
B. Doesn't mean Verizon won't strip features they think they can profit from by offering their crappy version. It's done on virtually every android phone they offer. Why else would they want to "handle" updates
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Rippley05 said:
But Google is not in control. Just because Verizon says they'll release at same time
A. Doesn't mean they will. They've lied before
B. Doesn't mean Verizon won't strip features they think they can profit from by offering their crappy version. It's done on virtually every android phone they offer. Why else would they want to "handle" updates
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Actually Google is in control. It's a first for them but it will be how apple controls their software. Read number 6 from this link
http://www.computerworld.com/article/3128785/android/google-pixel-phone-verizon.html#6

Gizmoe said:
Actually Google is in control. It's a first for them but it will be how apple controls their software. Read this article a guy took a snippet but a link is a few post above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/cancelled-preorder-heres-t3474157/post69105296
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Sorry wrong article. Read number 6 from this link
http://www.computerworld.com/article/3128785/android/google-pixel-phone-verizon.html#6
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Right. So I don't see anything about Verizon and not allowing carriers like Verizon to remove apps and features on their phones. They let them install bloatware Verizon apps that can be "deleted" but can they be uninstalled?
This isn't like Apple because Apple doesn't let Verizon "handle" their updates.
I bit the bullet and ordered a pixel xl, but nobody will know how Verizon will tamper with it until a new version of android releases.
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Rippley05 said:
Right. So I don't see anything about Verizon and not allowing carriers like Verizon to remove apps and features on their phones. They let them install bloatware Verizon apps that can be "deleted" but can they be uninstalled?
This isn't like Apple because Apple doesn't let Verizon "handle" their updates.
I bit the bullet and ordered a pixel xl, but nobody will know how Verizon will tamper with it until a new version of android releases.
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I linked an article and said to read #6 but you did not. So here it is on a spoon for you.
Update [10/12/16]:?*Google and Verizon seem to have reached a revised and more firmly defined position on this matter. In a new statement provided this morning, Google now says: "Google controls the distribution of all OS updates and security patches for Pixel devices. OS updates and monthly security patches will be updated on all Pixel devices (Verizon and non-Verizon versions) simultaneously."

Everything I have read has stated the the VZ apps are uninstallable.
It is more like Apple for updates in this case. Google and Verizon both said Google will be pushing the updates.
"Google and Verizon seem to have reached a revised and more firmly defined position on this matter. In a new statement provided this morning, Google now says: "Google controls the distribution of all OS updates and security patches for Pixel devices. OS updates and monthly security patches will be updated on all Pixel devices (Verizon and non-Verizon versions) simultaneously."

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Everything I have read has stated the the VZ apps are uninstallable.
It is more like Apple for updates in this case. Google and Verizon both said Google will be pushing the updates.
"Google and Verizon seem to have reached a revised and more firmly defined position on this matter. In a new statement provided this morning, Google now says: "Google controls the distribution of all OS updates and security patches for Pixel devices. OS updates and monthly security patches will be updated on all Pixel devices (Verizon and non-Verizon versions) simultaneously."
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Yeah the Nexus program was just google dabbling. They are going directly after apple with the Pixel. And hopefully other Android OEM's. Fragmentation has always been a problem and Google is finally starting to do something about it. iOS has always had the upper hand this way by controlled releases and software/hardware being designed together. That's exactly what the Pixel was made to compete with.

Verizon Galaxy S8 Delivered! 4/19

Just received my S8 today! Super stoked. Also, before I completely set up the phone, I didn't add any google accounts. I immediately went to disable all the bloatware and preinstalled apps I don't use. Not sure what Verizon did, but I was able to delete most of the bloatware that came on the device! The disable feature wasn't blocked out. Guess Verizon is finally giving the customers what they wanted. Was able to delete the following:
Verizon : Navigator, Caller ID, Cloud, Message+, NFL mobile, Slacker Radio & games
Google: Google Play/TV, Music, Hangouts ( I don't use any of these apps)

can you post a screenshot of what the settings menu looks like? i heard the verizon one looks different than the other carrier ones

Settings screenshots attached

Does the firmware still say it's a U model?

I got my S8 too, I love it beyond my expectations
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cadcamaro said:
Does the firmware still say it's a U model?
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Yes, G950U

The model for the US versions are all the same except for Carrier specific S/W and bloat. Not much bloatware on VZW except noted in OP and a couple of games which I think are Samsung. There are a couple of Amazon apps which I use but otherwise its fairly clean.
Now to disable Bixby and remap the Bixby key.
Phone feels too narrow even to my smallish hands but very comfortable. No problems navigating so far.
my 2 cents

equake said:
The model for the US versions are all the same except for Carrier specific S/W and bloat. Not much bloatware on VZW except noted in OP and a couple of games which I think are Samsung. There are a couple of Amazon apps which I use but otherwise its fairly clean.
Now to disable Bixby and remap the Bixby key.
Phone feels too narrow even to my smallish hands but very comfortable. No problems navigating so far.
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SO better to leave phone on verizon FW even tho using it with tmobile sim ?

Can you check if SamsungCloud is available for backup and restore?
I really need that. Thank you!

T33H00 said:
Can you check if SamsungCloud is available for backup and restore?
I really need that. Thank you!
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Only Verizon cloud is accessible. I tried using Samsung Cloud via nova shortcuts, but I can't get the backup button to work properly.

FYI, I had uninstalled all of the Verizon bloat I was allowed to right when I got the phone(12pm cst). Just a few minutes ago after opening voicemail (it downloaded visual) I noticed all of the bloat was back and couldn't be uninstalled...
I went ahead and did a factor reset which let me remove it again. I have now disabled DT Ignite which I assume is being used to push the bloat again.
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sage3 said:
FYI, I had uninstalled all of the Verizon bloat I was allowed to right when I got the phone(12pm cst). Just a few minutes ago after opening voicemail (it downloaded visual) I noticed all of the bloat was back and couldn't be uninstalled...
I went ahead and did a factor reset which let me remove it again. I have now disabled DT Ignite which I assume is being used to push the bloat again.
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Did the bloat install again?

Eddie Hicks said:
Did the bloat install again?
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Nope sure hasn't. Also note, I have not taken the Verizon OTA yet.
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sage3 said:
Nope sure hasn't. Also note, I have not taken the Verizon OTA yet.
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Thanks, I'm using Package Disabler Pro, but it's better to uninstall app to save space.

Eddie Hicks said:
Thanks, I'm using Package Disabler Pro, but it's better to uninstall app to save space.
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I just wish they would allow us to uninstall all of their crap. I still have Message+, Caller Name ID, VZ protect, and Cloud all of which I don't use. Also have voicemail and my Verizon which I use. So what.. really only got to uninstall a couple better than none I guess. Probably wasn't worth my time.
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Took the most recent update. AQD9. None of the bloat came back.
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sage3 said:
FYI, I had uninstalled all of the Verizon bloat I was allowed to right when I got the phone(12pm cst). Just a few minutes ago after opening voicemail (it downloaded visual) I noticed all of the bloat was back and couldn't be uninstalled...
I went ahead and did a factor reset which let me remove it again. I have now disabled DT Ignite which I assume is being used to push the bloat again.
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Be sure you disable "DT Ignite". That is the app that install all the bloat.

Update AQG4 is out

Got this today

Downloading now.
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The ability to hide the navigation bar is nice.
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kraminc said:
The ability to hide the navigation bar is nice.
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Yeah, except the ability to really choose it's color beyond some very fluffy defaults, is gone.

Anyone been able to install daydream? This update was supposed to enable it for us but I can't install from the play store, still "unavailable." Sideloading the apk, it launches but gets to a point in setup that says the phone is not daydream ready. I could use daydream on my rooted HTC 10 and was really looking forward to having it back

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Anyone been able to install daydream? This update was supposed to enable it for us but I can't install from the play store, still "unavailable." Sideloading the apk, it launches but gets to a point in setup that says the phone is not daydream ready. I could use daydream on my rooted HTC 10 and was really looking forward to having it back
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Maybe it's something Google has to flip a switch on. The update just puts the groundwork in place and then Google has to add the device to a "blessed" list. Just a thought.

That's what I was thinking, I figured with the update being today and the latest apk on apkmirror being july 13th, they neex to update the app itself

Any other changes?
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Averix said:
Maybe it's something Google has to flip a switch on. The update just puts the groundwork in place and then Google has to add the device to a "blessed" list. Just a thought.
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Any other changes?
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So far just the supposed daydream support, hideable nav bar, and what ever the stupid send a gif during calls is

Averix said:
Yeah, except the ability to really choose it's color beyond some very fluffy defaults, is gone.
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Yeah WTF. I want my black nav bar back. This limited color is BS. And WTF is MY Verizon. Guided Navigation under Accessibility options ???
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Hasherx1 said:
Yeah WTF. I want my black man bar back. This limited color is BS. And WTF is MY Verizon. Guided Navigation under Accessibility options ???
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I'm pissed with the lack of a transparent nav bar now! So I either have to be supremely annoyed swiping up every time I want to back out of an app, screen, etc... to have a normal colored nav bar....or deal with a bs solid one???? WTF verizon???? Which idiot thought this was a good idea!
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jroyalty7 said:
I'm pissed with the lack of a transparent nav bar now! So I either have to be supremely annoyed swiping up every time I want to back out of an app, screen, etc... to have a normal colored nav bar....or deal with a bs solid one???? WTF verizon???? Which idiot thought this was a good idea!
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Well going to Best Buy to check out the unlocked version and see if it is different. If so buying it and dumping this Verizon version. I am tired of a provider having control over what is put on a device via firmware updates. I paid for the phone.
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Hasherx1 said:
Well going to Best Buy to check out the unlocked version and see if it is different. If so buying it and dumping this Verizon version. I am tired of a provider having control over what is put on a device via firmware updates. I paid for the phone.
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Well bought the SM-G955U1 and no more verizon crap. So far only missing Wi-Fi calling and I can live without that. Hopefully no more wierd updates. They can keep them.
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As a follow up on this issue. It appears that the T-Mobile version also was updated with the same nav bar updates. So I contacted Samsung and with no surprise was just told Samsung is always updating firmwarer to enhance your experience. They could not state whether the same changes would come to the unlocked version. So I have 15 days to determine whether to return the unlocked one and figure out what this may make me do with the verizon version. I might be able to tolerate it but I am tired of paying large sums of money and having no control or say on what is added or removed from my device. I don't rant much but the idea of sneaking in some little change without noting it in update descriptions is not good business practice.
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Hasherx1 said:
As a follow up on this issue. It appears that the T-Mobile version also was updated with the same nav bar updates. So I contacted Samsung and with no surprise was just told Samsung is always updating firmwarer to enhance your experience. They could not state whether the same changes would come to the unlocked version. So I have 15 days to determine whether to return the unlocked one and figure out what this may make me do with the verizon version. I might be able to tolerate it but I am tired of paying large sums of money and having no control or say on what is added or removed from my device. I don't rant much but the idea of sneaking in some little change without noting it in update descriptions is not good business practice.
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Sadly, I think the navbar color limitation will come to all models. I think they're doing this to try and reduce burn in. The color choice is so mild/mixed that it won't tax the pixels to as much of a total on/off state. It keeps them in line with the rest of the screen use. That's my theory anyway.

Averix said:
Sadly, I think the navbar color limitation will come to all models. I think they're doing this to try and reduce burn in. The color choice is so mild/mixed that it won't tax the pixels to as much of a total on/off state. It keeps them in line with the rest of the screen use. That's my theory anyway.
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Yes, after reading numerous articles I agree. As George Carlin said. " There is club....and you and I ain't in it." (Paraphrased). So we just take what we get . Still debating the worth of this unlocked phone though.
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Sir_Eagle said:
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I'm noticing since the update and possibly since the "Samsung Always on update" my Verizon S8+ seems to be warm in the back of the phone. The phone just seems to stay warm. My cpu temperature with no activity and the phone in my pocket is a constant 39.9-40.4 . I do use the "always on display", but can never ever remember my phone being warm all the time like that when I pull it out of my pocket. Strangely enough when removed from my pocket and in use the phone starts feeling cooler, cpu temperature at first going to 44.2, but with more use going down to 40.2. I've always had the setting to keep the screen off when the phone is in my pocket enabled.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
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Download the firmware here
https://www.androidfilehost.com/user/?w=settings-dev-files&flid=199802

Ya the Navbar is totally screwed up after this update. I'm going to have to revert to the previous build
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Hasherx1 said:
As a follow up on this issue. It appears that the T-Mobile version also was updated with the same nav bar updates. So I contacted Samsung and with no surprise was just told Samsung is always updating firmwarer to enhance your experience. They could not state whether the same changes would come to the unlocked version. So I have 15 days to determine whether to return the unlocked one and figure out what this may make me do with the verizon version. I might be able to tolerate it but I am tired of paying large sums of money and having no control or say on what is added or removed from my device. I don't rant much but the idea of sneaking in some little change without noting it in update descriptions is not good business practice.
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Good luck with the return. I tried to return my phone and ended up with nothing but lip service. I called four different times and was told four different times that a return shipping label would be e-mailed to me within five business days. Well....that was a month ago and I'm still waiting for that e-mail!!