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Hi all. I have a few questions about my Note 3 n9005.
Im on stock TW 4.4.2 with Towel root and knox is 0x0.
I have read in the threads but have not fund the answers i'm looking for. I hope you fine people can help me
1. Knox. Do i need to care if Knox is 0x0 or 0x1 if my phone is without warranty?
2. Do i benefit from upgrading to Lollipop at all? If so, in what way? What Lollipop? Faster? Better battery? Features?
3. Are there drawbaks to Lollipop on Note 3? If so, what?
4. If i stay on TW 4.4.2, do i benefit from changing to a costum kernel? Faster? Better battery? Features?
5. If not Lollipop, are there stable and battery friendly custom TW-roms that you can recommend?
I'm asking because i'm not quite satisfied with stock 4.4.2. I think it might draw unnecessary battery for one. Idle and in use.
And of course i want to see what Lollipop is all about. (It's not available via update in Sweden for me)
My phone is stable and thats how i like and need my phone right now. So i don´t really want to go through all the hassle of experimenting to see what works or not. Not if there are kind people here to help me in the right direction.
Then i can experiment and see what works for me
I really do appreciate if you can help me with this.
Regards. //Tesla
Tesla said:
What?
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1- No and Yes. If your warranty is void then you shouldn't care about KNOX. You should only care about KNOX if you use that security. I mean if you turn on KNOX your phone will be more secured and all that, but I don't care about that, can't say about you.
2- Yes, in my opinion. It's faster, smoother, better battery life absolutely by 20-25% for me (however I have heard the opposite as well), don't know if there is any additional features or not, don't think so.
3- Depends on your taste. For some people the whitish/ lighter background of Lollipop is bothersome, but for me it was the opposite, I hated darkish background of KitKat. Also some people say battery backup is worse than KK, but it was opposite for me. You will also hear that some apps/ games crash to often, but I personally haven't found a single app which crashes, and I don't play games on my phone. Some will say RAM usage is much higher, it was true, but with latest update (OF3) I don't see any high RAM usage at all.
4- You will always benefit from using a custom kernel over stock kernel, for everything.
5- No interest or idea about non-Lollipop ROMs any more. But if you are looking for LP ROMs then flash AryaMod if you want to have quite a lot of features, or just flash the stock Deodexed version of latest ROM and install Xposed framework to get most out of your phone.
It's either hate or love with LP, I love it, but you might hate it. And no one can tell you either because no one will know your personal taste.
Thank you so much for your long and detailed answer m8. I really appreciate it.
Okey. Then i don´t care abot Knox. :d
Is it AryaMod V7.1 TW Lollipop Official POF3 you are referring too? Do you have experience of this Rom?
I think i will start with a custom kernel for TW. But i have to say that i'm lost in which one to choose. Do you have a sugestion for 4.4.2 Kernel?
Lollipop sounds good if you are one of the lucky ones. I will try it soon.
Thank you again my friend.
Yes, it is AryaMod 7.1 I am referring to. I used Arya for over a month actually, very stable and full featured ROM, but the ROM has its own systemUI mods, for that Xposed is not fully compatible with it, and I had to ditch it. I can't live without Xposed modules.
For KK kernel, I don't really remember much, but when I was on KK I remember using the Faux's kernel, I think the kernel was maintained by someone called yank555 or something like that, it was a great kernel. And as it was not available for LP any more I switched to Audax kernel (as you can see in my siggy), another great kernel (it's actually a continuation of Fulgor kernel, and Fulgor was available for KK too as far as I can remember, so you can try that too if you wish to stay on KK). And if you want better battery related kernel for LP then Arter's kernel should be your choice, but I prefer for performance over anything, so not using it.
And anytime, we are here to help only, and seek it when in need
Ooh.. i doo love my Xposed modules. :/ Then i will have to find another Rom.
What Rom are you on now and is it what i'm looking for? Link? Arter's kernel works with the rom you are using?
Thanks. Now i can use the search and see what i find here
Thanks for the great support. You help in the true XDA Spirit.
Was afraid of getting the "Read" answer. Se my siggy.
Tesla said:
Ooh.. i doo love my Xposed modules. :/ Then i will have to find another Rom.
What Rom are you on now and is it what i'm looking for? Link? Arter's kernel works with the rom you are using?
Thanks. Now i can use the search and see what i find here
Thanks for the great support. You help in the true XDA Spirit.
Was afraid of getting the "Read" answer. Se my siggy.
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I am using Deodexed version of Stock ROM, which has very slight number of features added, like UPSM etc.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-qs-n9005-lp-t3037655
Yes, Arter kernel works with LP obviously, http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/arter97-kernel-galaxy-note-3-t3028148
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Hi guys,
Been reading these forums for the last few hours but still struggling to make my mind up...I would like to know your opinions on the best method of rooting my phone (SM-n9005 on lollipop 5.0) and what ROM and kernal you recommend please? The most important factor for me is stability/lack of bugs but without going back to an earlier version of android. Or would that mean that it would make more sense to keep the stock ROM/kernal?
I apologise in advance for any stupid questions as I am pretty new to this but very eager to tinker!
Thanks!
my choice!
Darren653 said:
Hi guys,
Been reading these forums for the last few hours but still struggling to make my mind up...I would like to know your opinions on the best method of rooting my phone (SM-n9005 on lollipop 5.0) and what ROM and kernal you recommend please? The most important factor for me is stability/lack of bugs but without going back to an earlier version of android. Or would that mean that it would make more sense to keep the stock ROM/kernal?
I apologise in advance for any stupid questions as I am pretty new to this but very eager to tinker!
Thanks!
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* Root via CF Auto Root
* Flash AryaMod ROM (via TWRP)
* Flash Lean Kernel 6.3 (via TWRP)
Well my choice for rooting is simple. Install a custom recovery (TWRP), then flash the SuperSU zip from there, done.
My preferred custom ROM (for you) would be Arya, cause it comes with lots of features, and it's based on stock Samsung TW ROM, so its stable as hell.
Kernel? Well I am sorry to say I can't say that, probably Audax? I am on Stock at this moment, and all I know if I move to a custom kernel it will be Audax at this moment, cause honestly I don't see any reason to use any other kernel other than that. I prefer a kernel for its additional features, and those aren't available then I don't see any point of using a custom kernel
ithehappy said:
Well my choice for rooting is simple. Install a custom recovery (TWRP), then flash the SuperSU zip from there, done.
My preferred custom ROM (for you) would be Arya, cause it comes with lots of features, and it's based on stock Samsung TW ROM, so its stable as hell.
Kernel? Well I am sorry to say I can't say that, probably Audax? I am on Stock at this moment, and all I know if I move to a custom kernel it will be Audax at this moment, cause honestly I don't see any reason to use any other kernel other than that. I prefer a kernel for its additional features, and those aren't available then I don't see any point of using a custom kernel
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Thanks a lot for the help! By the sounds of it then, i will definitely go with the Arya ROM...I'm assuming this and Aryamod are the same thing? Also, will this offer many more advantages as the stock ROM and will it be as stable? The main reason i have decided to root my phone is to get more out of apps requiring root and to get rid of bloatware.
With regards to the kernal, i guess being a novice, all i understand is that they can improve battery performance and phone performance so i would like to go for one fitting this. Unless i have missed the idea completely lol
Thanks again mate
Darren653 said:
Thanks a lot for the help! By the sounds of it then, i will definitely go with the Arya ROM...I'm assuming this and Aryamod are the same thing? Also, will this offer many more advantages as the stock ROM and will it be as stable? The main reason i have decided to root my phone is to get more out of apps requiring root and to get rid of bloatware.
With regards to the kernal, i guess being a novice, all i understand is that they can improve battery performance and phone performance so i would like to go for one fitting this. Unless i have missed the idea completely lol
Thanks again mate
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This is Arya mate, http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-aryamod-v1-tw-lollipop-t2990920
Yes, the ROM is damn stable, as stable as stock ROM, I used the ROM for almost two months, and in fact I am downloading it now, getting bored of stock ROM.
Yes, kernel can improve battery life and performance, if you know what to tweak.
ithehappy said:
This is Arya mate, http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-aryamod-v1-tw-lollipop-t2990920
Yes, the ROM is damn stable, as stable as stock ROM, I used the ROM for almost two months, and in fact I am downloading it now, getting bored of stock ROM.
Yes, kernel can improve battery life and performance, if you know what to tweak.
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Thanks a lot! I'm just backing up my phone then I'm going to try to root it and install the ROM tonight! I think i'll leave the custom kernal for a while so I can see how i get on with the stock kernel. At least then i'll hopefully be able to compare once i do flash a new one.
Thanks for being patient
Darren653 said:
Thanks a lot! I'm just backing up my phone then I'm going to try to root it and install the ROM tonight! I think i'll leave the custom kernal for a while so I can see how i get on with the stock kernel. At least then i'll hopefully be able to compare once i do flash a new one.
Thanks for being patient
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Sure mate, we are here to help. Just do a wipe before doing all that, cause without wiping the ROM and all its features might not work and the ROM won't be stable anyway. Wipe everything from TWRP, under Advanced wipe section, except external SD card of course. Take a backup beforehand. Remember, if you do that advanced wipe thing, then you won't have anything on your phone, so better download Arya before doing all that.
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Sure mate, we are here to help. Just do a wipe before doing all that, cause without wiping the ROM and all its features might not work and the ROM won't be stable anyway. Wipe everything from TWRP, under Advanced wipe section, except external SD card of course. Take a backup beforehand. Remember, if you do that advanced wipe thing, then you won't have anything on your phone, so better download Arya before doing all that.
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I've managed to root it without any problems so I'm well chuffed
I decided to get the hang of titanium backup and TWRP backup before i start messing about too much with custom ROMS. Which for me, is a very sensible decision
I've been looking at the Arya rom which like you said, seems amazingly stable now, and the Darklord N5 or S6 port, which apparently is stable now too. Do you have any experience with the Darklord N5 or S6 ROMs? How do these compare to the Arya? Lastly, now that I've rooted it, is there much to gain from a custom ROM as it seems that you can get many different apps to customise different things whilst keeping the stability of the OEM ROM?
Darren653 said:
I've managed to root it without any problems so I'm well chuffed
I decided to get the hang of titanium backup and TWRP backup before i start messing about too much with custom ROMS. Which for me, is a very sensible decision
I've been looking at the Arya rom which like you said, seems amazingly stable now, and the Darklord N5 or S6 port, which apparently is stable now too. Do you have any experience with the Darklord N5 or S6 ROMs? How do these compare to the Arya? Lastly, now that I've rooted it, is there much to gain from a custom ROM as it seems that you can get many different apps to customise different things whilst keeping the stability of the OEM ROM?
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Unfortunately I don't posses any idea about those ROMs mate. As much as I would like to respect and admire those developers (you have no idea how hard it is to do even a simple mod, let alone a full ROM like that), at the same time I will have to say almost all the ported ROMs have some sort of issues, be it S6 or Note 5 or Note 4, yes, they might be negligible to some, but I want my phone to be performing as stable as possible. And as Arya is based on Stock Note 3 firmware there is no chance of any instability. But if you find Darklord Note 5 port stable and don't encounter any problem then use it, by all means. Heck if Samsung doesn't release 5.1.1 i next couple of months then I too obviously will that route, but for now 5.0 is okay enough for me.
And yes, with a custom ROM you can do a lot of things as you have already experienced. You rooted it to install the custom ROM, and then there are the ROM features which need root, so yes, custom all the way. This is coming from a stock ROM lover by the way, but as I said before, Arya is as stable as a stock ROM, and comes with some really handy features additionally, so its a simple decision for me
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Unfortunately I don't posses any idea about those ROMs mate. As much as I would like to respect and admire those developers (you have no idea how hard it is to do even a simple mod, let alone a full ROM like that), at the same time I will have to say almost all the ported ROMs have some sort of issues, be it S6 or Note 5 or Note 4, yes, they might be negligible to some, but I want my phone to be performing as stable as possible. And as Arya is based on Stock Note 3 firmware there is no chance of any instability. But if you find Darklord Note 5 port stable and don't encounter any problem then use it, by all means. Heck if Samsung doesn't release 5.1.1 i next couple of months then I too obviously will that route, but for now 5.0 is okay enough for me.
And yes, with a custom ROM you can do a lot of things as you have already experienced. You rooted it to install the custom ROM, and then there are the ROM features which need root, so yes, custom all the way. This is coming from a stock ROM lover by the way, but as I said before, Arya is as stable as a stock ROM, and comes with some really handy features additionally, so its a simple decision for me
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That sounds like good advice mate. Thanks for all of your help!
Hi everyone,
I've been using my OP5 for the past year and now I've exhausted my full 64Gb of storage. Was planning to backup my data onto my laptop and start afresh but I thought it is time to root. I've rooted pretty much every phone I've had in the past for some or the other reason like increasing battery life, overclocking, debloated roms for more storage etc. etc.
I have been technologically dead for the past 2 years so I'm kind of lost right now and in confusion on as to whether to root or not? What would be the main advantages I'd be getting if I root. My phone is still blazing fast, has amazing battery life and OOS is really smooth.
Just in a lot of confusion and want to find more reasons to root.
If you have to ask, you don't need it.
If you root your phone you'll be able to actually use your phone. The only disadvantage to rooting your phone that I see would be that whenever I see a new rom, I want to flash it. I've never understood why somebody would not want to root their phone. Maybe warranty? But then again, I think there are ways around that?
Rickyloc said:
The only disadvantage to rooting your phone that I see would be that whenever I see a new rom, I want to flash it.
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This! +1
Dirk said:
If you have to ask, you don't need it.
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Should have seen a reply like this coming my way. Buddy, I've rooted every other phone I've had in the past. Either for updates, better battery life, smoother ram management and so on.. The only thing I couldn't understand is this phone isn't lacking in any of the above mentioned points including updates **touch wood** so wanted to understand others thought process on the advantages cause I am unaware of all the cool mods you can do at the moment, if there are any.
Rickyloc said:
If you root your phone you'll be able to actually use your phone. The only disadvantage to rooting your phone that I see would be that whenever I see a new rom, I want to flash it. I've never understood why somebody would not want to root their phone. Maybe warranty? But then again, I think there are ways around that?
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Thank you, this was helpful.. I don't see why i shouldn't root it too. I'll probably be rooting too. Which Rom would you suggest for stability and everyday usage with some good extra additional functionality?
Kunal5894 said:
Thank you, this was helpful.. I don't see why i shouldn't root it too. I'll probably be rooting too. Which Rom would you suggest for stability and everyday usage with some good extra additional functionality?
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My favorite rom is Codename Phoenix. It's fast and it's not on XDA, which is probably why I like it. It's got a lot of features. If there is a feature a rom doesn't have you can always get Xposed or something to enable.
But the main reason for rooting my phone is so that I can use gcam properly. I love Photoshop and gcam offers the best photos. In my opinion, far better than stock or any other.
There's an option just to flash a custom ROM and leave it unrooted ?
I can recommend Resurrection Remix unofficial. Simply followed the steps with unlocking the bootloader and gaining root on stock ROM, then flashed a custom ROM without rooting it.
If you thought battery life was great with stock OOS you're going to be pretty surprised with battery at Resurrection Remix and Flash Kernel ?
Kunal5894 said:
Thank you, this was helpful.. I don't see why i shouldn't root it too. I'll probably be rooting too. Which Rom would you suggest for stability and everyday usage with some good extra additional functionality?
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The best combination of stability and improved battery life is between the stock stable OxygenOS paired with the latest Franco kernel. I have tried pretty much all of the custom ROMs but every time the battery life of my phone was getting worse (compared to fully stock) until I tried stock OOS with Franco Kernel. But I have to say that I only have rooted my phone to use the Franco Kernel Manager and I do not have any add-ons into Magisk. Root + Franco and everything else is stock. I am not flashing new roms/kernels like crazy and really often, because the stable OOS is getting released once in two or even three months. Franco's kernel is being updated, hm, let's say once in a month or two months. So 99% of the time you are going to use your phone without flashing anything new.
I am liking stock OOS and not a big fan of custom ROMs but reading the posts in some of custom kernel threads, I start to wonder if rooting is worth it just for the sake of flashing a custom kernel.
Performance is already great on stock so the question becomes whether battery life is that much better on a custom kernel compared to stock?
Depends on the Kernel. If you choose Omega, then Yes. Battery life is definitely better. Also if you root you can also use Root Apps to change Themes, get a System-Wide AMOLED Black Dark Mode and change the Fingerprint Animation. Custom Kernels are an added benefit.
Hello everyone,
I was a Samsung user for many years, until I changed my mind after looking at the OP specs and amazing features.
I bought it two days ago and it's really impressive, fast and smooth OS, clean and fluid, it also has a great battery life.
But I was wondering, if I should root it to get the maximum of the performance and battery improvements, I saw a couple of kernels and some of the users' comments on how they improved the experience.
So all I'm asking, is it worth rooting the device only to flash ROMs and kernels for better experience?
Thank you!
EDIT: I forgot to mention that I have the 12GB RAM (256GB) version
I think it is worth for custom kernels at least for me. I personally use a lot of Magisk modules for charging, ad blocking and so on and I'd never want an unrooted device
This is the first phone ive ever had which I've not rooted or even unlocked the bootloader. It's on my to-do list, was waiting for a fully functional TWRP. But I think that times soon.
The benefits to rooting and installing a custom ROM are huge, it's a great phone for development so yes I would recommend it..
Personally I don't usually go with custom kernels as I tend to find stock kernels more stable, but that also depends.
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I think it is worth for custom kernels at least for me. I personally use a lot of Magisk modules for charging, ad blocking and so on and I'd never want an unrooted device
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Haha, yeah I feel you brother, all my previous devices were rooted but now the OP.. ah, I should root it
Thanks for replying
dladz said:
This is the first phone ive ever had which I've not rooted or even unlocked the bootloader. It's on my to-do list, was waiting for a fully functional TWRP. But I think that times soon.
The benefits to rooting and installing a custom ROM are huge, it's a great phone for development so yes I would recommend it..
Personally I don't usually go with custom kernels as I tend to find stock kernels more stable, but that also depends.
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Yeah same, but I'm not planning to flash any custom ROMs, I'll use only custom kernels because some of them are promising and tend to improve the overall experience.