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[Q] Rooted 2.2 to Rooted Gingerbread?

As my title says I am inquiring how to get from stock rooted 2.2 to rooted 2.3. I have searched for quite a few hours but all I seem to find is dead links and a bunch of instructions that say "must have 2.3.3 already installed." I mainly want to go to gingerbread to utilize the custom roms. Seeing as there seems to be no sweet froyo roms for the phone. I had a droid 1 for a while and really liked sorcery rom, but alas no such thing for the D2. All I'm looking for is a straight answer or link or link to how to get GB. Thanks for any help.

To get Gingerbread would require flashing a ROM that has it, since you can't flash a kernel. Your best bet is CM7 if you want that stock feel but I would recommend Miui since it is a lot more polished and is basically a whole new, fresh redesign of the system.

DeBaKai said:
To get Gingerbread would require flashing a ROM that has it, since you can't flash a kernel. Your best bet is CM7 if you want that stock feel but I would recommend Miui since it is a lot more polished and is basically a whole new, fresh redesign of the system.
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So, what your saying is that if I flash CM7 I can then Flash roms such as apex or ZS that require you to already have GB? Also, I see that you have an DInc, those are much easier to deal with aren't they? I really doubt I'll be using MIUI, I tried it multiple times on my DInc that I had(sold it b/c of the horrendous batt. life, even after rom/kernal) and I honestly don't like it, I also don't like CM very much but I guess if i have to flash that then another I guess that is what I'll do.

Miui is great once you install a launcher. It gives it more of that Android feel. The newest builds have been very polished and smooth. It has been great on the battery life too.
Yeah, the Inc is easier because it is unlocked (an thus you can change kernels). With the the Droid 2 you have to rely on the ROMS to update your system. It can be hit and miss depending on the ROM.
Yeah, usually most people flash CM7 before flashing any other ROM. I didn't have too for Miui though.
Edit: I was reading this. You can just flash the GB leak before flashing your ROM. You don't need to Flash CM7.

DeBaKai said:
Miui is great once you install a launcher. It gives it more of that Android feel. The newest builds have been very polished and smooth. It has been great on the battery life too.
Yeah, the Inc is easier because it is unlocked (an thus you can change kernels). With the the Droid 2 you have to rely on the ROMS to update your system. It can be hit and miss depending on the ROM.
Yeah, usually most people flash CM7 before flashing any other ROM. I didn't have too for Miui though.
Edit: I was reading this. You can just flash the GB leak before flashing your ROM. You don't need to Flash CM7.
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Ok, well, that was quite a debacle. I wish it would have been more clear that if you haven't updated to the unrooted GB leak that you just flash the rootBG leak and its all good. Nope, i flashed the unrooted leak and then took hours to find out why nothing worked then hours to sbf. Incase anyone is wondering, sbf doesn't work for beans on parallels mac, or on win7 in bootcamp. I had to use my dads dino XPS to get back to stock then flash the correct file. Half a day later I'm on zombie stomp, saw a lot of good things about it, esp battery life and thats what I'm after, battery life and just enough performance where it doesn't hang all the time. Ok, now, how in the world can I get wireless tether to work? I cant seem to find the how to on how to enable it on gb roms. Its not super important but it sure is handy in a pinch. BTW, not blaming you for my ignorance of GB install and thanks for the links

Your welcome. I get so much help from this forum that it's only fair that I give some back. It's kind of a learning experience for me when I do. Thus I try to help whenever I can.
As for tethering, I really have no idea. I've been meaning to test out the built in tethering feature on Miui. I am sure there are tethering apps you can use, though.

DeBaKai said:
Your welcome. I get so much help from this forum that it's only fair that I give some back. It's kind of a learning experience for me when I do. Thus I try to help whenever I can.
As for tethering, I really have no idea. I've been meaning to test out the built in tethering feature on Miui. I am sure there are tethering apps you can use, though.
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Yah, there is wireless tether, but it does not work. I know on htc you had to get a compatible kernel. But since motos is locked im not sure on the work around. Its a shame htc has such nice phones but such small batteries.

Should i modify it?

Hi, i'm a little bit scared about modifying it. Is there a real big difference in performance between the stock rom and a custom with a kernel at stock frequencies? And i've seen a lot of methods about unlocking/rooting it, but i am scared if i brick it... Is there a 100% safe method to unlock and root it? And i've heard about a problem with the buggy stock recovery, will i have this problem if i flash cwm?
Sorry for the huge number of questions and for my bad english
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Personally I found that there is not a great deal of difference between stock ROM and many of the custom ROMs out there. For me it is more to do with having the freedom to get tore into the tablet.
There is never a 100% guarantee that yo won't mess up when rooting and installing custom software, however the vast majority of users on here have managed to do it safely with the tools available.
If you are going down the path of rooting and customs, may I suggest you give the team EOS ROM a try coupled with Franco kernel. They work together like a dream. Also paranoid android ROM for something different . Though I found it to be a little slow for my liking.
Finally clemsyns elite kernel if you want crazy performance, but it does eat the battery
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Rooting is quite painless and reasonably safe if you follow the directions closely. The one click rooting methods, elsewhere in this forum...work well.
Myself, I prefer the stock rom. The custom roms might offer better performance, but can be buggy at times. although. I do switch back and forth to try them out. Remember, these roms
are all works in progress, so do not be surprised if something does not work the way you think
it should.

Thanks for the answers. I'm thinking about only rooting it. Will i receive the ota for a new update?
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As long as you keep the stock recovery you can keep doing ota updates
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In my experience, OTA never worked to well.. but there are ways around it, for example... backing up your apps, then load a fresh updated factory image. then just restore your apps..
Titanium backup is one such app, but there are others .

So far no matter what I try I cant brick it oh I can get it stuck but theres always a way to fix it. And like some others here I have tried I believe every ROM out there. Not one really stands out "different" for ME then any other. Nexus root toolkit is by far the easiest to use for me. If your into battery life so far Stock wins hands down.

Unlocking and rooting the Nexus is really simple and pretty much foolproof. I'll admit there isn't that much of a difference between stock and custom ROMs because the N7 with JB is already a beast. I just like custom ROMs because you have the ability to make it faster if you want to (I have my CPU over clocked by 500 MHz and my GPU over clocked by 300 MHz thanks to clemsyn's elite kernel) the only reasons why I wanted to put a custom ROM on this was because I missed the 3 in 1 shutdown menu and the ability to remove the notification shae toggles, other than that I don't mess with much because JB is already buttery smooth. Gone are the days when you have to root, OC and install custom ROMs just to get good performance out of your device like I had to do with the OG droid.

I would definitely at least root the device for the time being. Aside from some customization options in a few custom ROMs I actually really enjoy stock on my N7... I would also take a look at ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905961 once you have it all ready to go... I found it made an improvement to my Wifi and GPS by a fair bit, no custom rom needed.

Opinions on best root method, ROM & Kernal for SM-n9005 (lollipop 5.0)

Hi guys,
Been reading these forums for the last few hours but still struggling to make my mind up...I would like to know your opinions on the best method of rooting my phone (SM-n9005 on lollipop 5.0) and what ROM and kernal you recommend please? The most important factor for me is stability/lack of bugs but without going back to an earlier version of android. Or would that mean that it would make more sense to keep the stock ROM/kernal?
I apologise in advance for any stupid questions as I am pretty new to this but very eager to tinker!
Thanks!

my choice!
Darren653 said:
Hi guys,
Been reading these forums for the last few hours but still struggling to make my mind up...I would like to know your opinions on the best method of rooting my phone (SM-n9005 on lollipop 5.0) and what ROM and kernal you recommend please? The most important factor for me is stability/lack of bugs but without going back to an earlier version of android. Or would that mean that it would make more sense to keep the stock ROM/kernal?
I apologise in advance for any stupid questions as I am pretty new to this but very eager to tinker!
Thanks!
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* Root via CF Auto Root
* Flash AryaMod ROM (via TWRP)
* Flash Lean Kernel 6.3 (via TWRP)

Well my choice for rooting is simple. Install a custom recovery (TWRP), then flash the SuperSU zip from there, done.
My preferred custom ROM (for you) would be Arya, cause it comes with lots of features, and it's based on stock Samsung TW ROM, so its stable as hell.
Kernel? Well I am sorry to say I can't say that, probably Audax? I am on Stock at this moment, and all I know if I move to a custom kernel it will be Audax at this moment, cause honestly I don't see any reason to use any other kernel other than that. I prefer a kernel for its additional features, and those aren't available then I don't see any point of using a custom kernel

ithehappy said:
Well my choice for rooting is simple. Install a custom recovery (TWRP), then flash the SuperSU zip from there, done.
My preferred custom ROM (for you) would be Arya, cause it comes with lots of features, and it's based on stock Samsung TW ROM, so its stable as hell.
Kernel? Well I am sorry to say I can't say that, probably Audax? I am on Stock at this moment, and all I know if I move to a custom kernel it will be Audax at this moment, cause honestly I don't see any reason to use any other kernel other than that. I prefer a kernel for its additional features, and those aren't available then I don't see any point of using a custom kernel
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Thanks a lot for the help! By the sounds of it then, i will definitely go with the Arya ROM...I'm assuming this and Aryamod are the same thing? Also, will this offer many more advantages as the stock ROM and will it be as stable? The main reason i have decided to root my phone is to get more out of apps requiring root and to get rid of bloatware.
With regards to the kernal, i guess being a novice, all i understand is that they can improve battery performance and phone performance so i would like to go for one fitting this. Unless i have missed the idea completely lol
Thanks again mate

Darren653 said:
Thanks a lot for the help! By the sounds of it then, i will definitely go with the Arya ROM...I'm assuming this and Aryamod are the same thing? Also, will this offer many more advantages as the stock ROM and will it be as stable? The main reason i have decided to root my phone is to get more out of apps requiring root and to get rid of bloatware.
With regards to the kernal, i guess being a novice, all i understand is that they can improve battery performance and phone performance so i would like to go for one fitting this. Unless i have missed the idea completely lol
Thanks again mate
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This is Arya mate, http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-aryamod-v1-tw-lollipop-t2990920
Yes, the ROM is damn stable, as stable as stock ROM, I used the ROM for almost two months, and in fact I am downloading it now, getting bored of stock ROM.
Yes, kernel can improve battery life and performance, if you know what to tweak.

ithehappy said:
This is Arya mate, http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-aryamod-v1-tw-lollipop-t2990920
Yes, the ROM is damn stable, as stable as stock ROM, I used the ROM for almost two months, and in fact I am downloading it now, getting bored of stock ROM.
Yes, kernel can improve battery life and performance, if you know what to tweak.
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Thanks a lot! I'm just backing up my phone then I'm going to try to root it and install the ROM tonight! I think i'll leave the custom kernal for a while so I can see how i get on with the stock kernel. At least then i'll hopefully be able to compare once i do flash a new one.
Thanks for being patient

Darren653 said:
Thanks a lot! I'm just backing up my phone then I'm going to try to root it and install the ROM tonight! I think i'll leave the custom kernal for a while so I can see how i get on with the stock kernel. At least then i'll hopefully be able to compare once i do flash a new one.
Thanks for being patient
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Sure mate, we are here to help. Just do a wipe before doing all that, cause without wiping the ROM and all its features might not work and the ROM won't be stable anyway. Wipe everything from TWRP, under Advanced wipe section, except external SD card of course. Take a backup beforehand. Remember, if you do that advanced wipe thing, then you won't have anything on your phone, so better download Arya before doing all that.

ithehappy said:
Sure mate, we are here to help. Just do a wipe before doing all that, cause without wiping the ROM and all its features might not work and the ROM won't be stable anyway. Wipe everything from TWRP, under Advanced wipe section, except external SD card of course. Take a backup beforehand. Remember, if you do that advanced wipe thing, then you won't have anything on your phone, so better download Arya before doing all that.
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I've managed to root it without any problems so I'm well chuffed
I decided to get the hang of titanium backup and TWRP backup before i start messing about too much with custom ROMS. Which for me, is a very sensible decision
I've been looking at the Arya rom which like you said, seems amazingly stable now, and the Darklord N5 or S6 port, which apparently is stable now too. Do you have any experience with the Darklord N5 or S6 ROMs? How do these compare to the Arya? Lastly, now that I've rooted it, is there much to gain from a custom ROM as it seems that you can get many different apps to customise different things whilst keeping the stability of the OEM ROM?

Darren653 said:
I've managed to root it without any problems so I'm well chuffed
I decided to get the hang of titanium backup and TWRP backup before i start messing about too much with custom ROMS. Which for me, is a very sensible decision
I've been looking at the Arya rom which like you said, seems amazingly stable now, and the Darklord N5 or S6 port, which apparently is stable now too. Do you have any experience with the Darklord N5 or S6 ROMs? How do these compare to the Arya? Lastly, now that I've rooted it, is there much to gain from a custom ROM as it seems that you can get many different apps to customise different things whilst keeping the stability of the OEM ROM?
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Unfortunately I don't posses any idea about those ROMs mate. As much as I would like to respect and admire those developers (you have no idea how hard it is to do even a simple mod, let alone a full ROM like that), at the same time I will have to say almost all the ported ROMs have some sort of issues, be it S6 or Note 5 or Note 4, yes, they might be negligible to some, but I want my phone to be performing as stable as possible. And as Arya is based on Stock Note 3 firmware there is no chance of any instability. But if you find Darklord Note 5 port stable and don't encounter any problem then use it, by all means. Heck if Samsung doesn't release 5.1.1 i next couple of months then I too obviously will that route, but for now 5.0 is okay enough for me.
And yes, with a custom ROM you can do a lot of things as you have already experienced. You rooted it to install the custom ROM, and then there are the ROM features which need root, so yes, custom all the way. This is coming from a stock ROM lover by the way, but as I said before, Arya is as stable as a stock ROM, and comes with some really handy features additionally, so its a simple decision for me

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Unfortunately I don't posses any idea about those ROMs mate. As much as I would like to respect and admire those developers (you have no idea how hard it is to do even a simple mod, let alone a full ROM like that), at the same time I will have to say almost all the ported ROMs have some sort of issues, be it S6 or Note 5 or Note 4, yes, they might be negligible to some, but I want my phone to be performing as stable as possible. And as Arya is based on Stock Note 3 firmware there is no chance of any instability. But if you find Darklord Note 5 port stable and don't encounter any problem then use it, by all means. Heck if Samsung doesn't release 5.1.1 i next couple of months then I too obviously will that route, but for now 5.0 is okay enough for me.
And yes, with a custom ROM you can do a lot of things as you have already experienced. You rooted it to install the custom ROM, and then there are the ROM features which need root, so yes, custom all the way. This is coming from a stock ROM lover by the way, but as I said before, Arya is as stable as a stock ROM, and comes with some really handy features additionally, so its a simple decision for me
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That sounds like good advice mate. Thanks for all of your help!

why is there so little rom development

Since we have a mostly stable root... why are there only 2 custom roms??
After being locked out of my s6, I was so excited this phone had root... just don't understand

Anthrax79 said:
Since we have a mostly stable root... why are there only 2 custom roms??
After being locked out of my s6, I was so excited this phone had root... just don't understand
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Because there are not many options as we can only use stock 6.0.1 base with the locked bootloader that uses the engineering kernel. If we could use any kernel it would be a WAY different story.

Thanks for the insight. Did not realize the engineering kernel was so restricted. I came from an HTC one prior, and we had lots of roms based off the base kernel, but I am a jafu so my knowledge is limited.

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Thanks for the insight. Did not realize the engineering kernel was so restricted. I came from an HTC one prior, and we had lots of roms based off the base kernel, but I am a jafu so my knowledge is limited.
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Would give stang5litre a run man. Dude put a lot of work in it. Color just bout anything the way u want to. Smooth ass rom. Way smoother than stock rooted. Got a nice group of people come join

It could be worse....
Anthrax79 said:
Thanks for the insight. Did not realize the engineering kernel was so restricted. I came from an HTC one prior, and we had lots of roms based off the base kernel, but I am a jafu so my knowledge is limited.
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You COULD be stuck with a MTK tablet; the only MTK devices getting any love are phablets and phones for the most part (and those are mostly in the MEAR: Middle East, Asia, and Russia). My Lenovo A7-30F (not the A3000 or A3300) has two recoveries (one each for KitKat and Lollipop) and no custom ROMs at all; my GNex (which is far older) has more ROMs just for KitKat (let alone Lollipop, Marshmallow, and Nougat).

The LG G3 was nice because there was an exploit (and it hasn't been patched to this day) that allows you to have what is called a "bumped" TWRP so you can flash all sorts of custom ROMs, including AOSP-based ROMs, as well as custom kernels. That was a nice feature of the LG G3 on VZW. Not sure why they never patched the exploit. I do miss those days, but I did stop rooting and such because I could still get really good battery life. Plus, Android Pay was a nice feature I liked using and now with the S7, I absolutely love Samsung Pay. Makes life so much easier when I check out not having to pull out my wallet, fumble and find the credit/debit card, swipe, etc. Just tap and pay! Nice!

To root or to not root?

Hi everyone,
I've been using my OP5 for the past year and now I've exhausted my full 64Gb of storage. Was planning to backup my data onto my laptop and start afresh but I thought it is time to root. I've rooted pretty much every phone I've had in the past for some or the other reason like increasing battery life, overclocking, debloated roms for more storage etc. etc.
I have been technologically dead for the past 2 years so I'm kind of lost right now and in confusion on as to whether to root or not? What would be the main advantages I'd be getting if I root. My phone is still blazing fast, has amazing battery life and OOS is really smooth.
Just in a lot of confusion and want to find more reasons to root.

If you have to ask, you don't need it.

If you root your phone you'll be able to actually use your phone. The only disadvantage to rooting your phone that I see would be that whenever I see a new rom, I want to flash it. I've never understood why somebody would not want to root their phone. Maybe warranty? But then again, I think there are ways around that?

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The only disadvantage to rooting your phone that I see would be that whenever I see a new rom, I want to flash it.
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This! +1

Dirk said:
If you have to ask, you don't need it.
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Should have seen a reply like this coming my way. Buddy, I've rooted every other phone I've had in the past. Either for updates, better battery life, smoother ram management and so on.. The only thing I couldn't understand is this phone isn't lacking in any of the above mentioned points including updates **touch wood** so wanted to understand others thought process on the advantages cause I am unaware of all the cool mods you can do at the moment, if there are any.

Rickyloc said:
If you root your phone you'll be able to actually use your phone. The only disadvantage to rooting your phone that I see would be that whenever I see a new rom, I want to flash it. I've never understood why somebody would not want to root their phone. Maybe warranty? But then again, I think there are ways around that?
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Thank you, this was helpful.. I don't see why i shouldn't root it too. I'll probably be rooting too. Which Rom would you suggest for stability and everyday usage with some good extra additional functionality?

Kunal5894 said:
Thank you, this was helpful.. I don't see why i shouldn't root it too. I'll probably be rooting too. Which Rom would you suggest for stability and everyday usage with some good extra additional functionality?
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My favorite rom is Codename Phoenix. It's fast and it's not on XDA, which is probably why I like it. It's got a lot of features. If there is a feature a rom doesn't have you can always get Xposed or something to enable.
But the main reason for rooting my phone is so that I can use gcam properly. I love Photoshop and gcam offers the best photos. In my opinion, far better than stock or any other.

There's an option just to flash a custom ROM and leave it unrooted ?
I can recommend Resurrection Remix unofficial. Simply followed the steps with unlocking the bootloader and gaining root on stock ROM, then flashed a custom ROM without rooting it.
If you thought battery life was great with stock OOS you're going to be pretty surprised with battery at Resurrection Remix and Flash Kernel ?

Kunal5894 said:
Thank you, this was helpful.. I don't see why i shouldn't root it too. I'll probably be rooting too. Which Rom would you suggest for stability and everyday usage with some good extra additional functionality?
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The best combination of stability and improved battery life is between the stock stable OxygenOS paired with the latest Franco kernel. I have tried pretty much all of the custom ROMs but every time the battery life of my phone was getting worse (compared to fully stock) until I tried stock OOS with Franco Kernel. But I have to say that I only have rooted my phone to use the Franco Kernel Manager and I do not have any add-ons into Magisk. Root + Franco and everything else is stock. I am not flashing new roms/kernels like crazy and really often, because the stable OOS is getting released once in two or even three months. Franco's kernel is being updated, hm, let's say once in a month or two months. So 99% of the time you are going to use your phone without flashing anything new.