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My phone has been off the charger for roughly 3 hours and my batter is already down to 66% .. I spent about 10 minutes in the market and that's about it.
Battery status looks like this-
Android OS 70%
Display 10%
Android System 5%
Cell Standby 4%
Phone Idle 3%
Market 2 %
Any ideas on what is going on with my android OS?
*Running completely stock*
Rooted phones have a few extra options like cpu settings unvolted kernel. Stock phones-try to lower you brightness, shorten screen time out, turn off gps and bluetooth. There is a app called juicedefinder that seems to help.
check what services are running maybe?
settings>applications>running services
dionysos911 said:
My phone has been off the charger for roughly 3 hours and my batter is already down to 66% .. I spent about 10 minutes in the market and that's about it.
Battery status looks like this-
Android OS 70%
Display 10%
Android System 5%
Cell Standby 4%
Phone Idle 3%
Market 2 %
Any ideas on what is going on with my android OS?
*Running completely stock*
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You can click on Android OS and get a more detailed break down of what is using up the most juice in that subset... I am betting you downloaded an app at some point that is corrupt and running non-stop draining your battery.
pjcforpres said:
You can click on Android OS and get a more detailed break down of what is using up the most juice in that subset... I am betting you downloaded an app at some point that is corrupt and running non-stop draining your battery.
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I clicked on it from the battery status but it only lists CPU Total, Data Sent, and Data Received. Doesn't break out what programs are doing it.
Under the running services is there a way to see the programs power usage or perhaps an app that will do this?..
On a side note my battery is now down to 30% with it's only uses since it was at 66% was taking it out of standby every once in a while to see the battery usage. Android OS is now up to 73% of the usage..
You either have a high refresh rate for data on a running service, or you downloaded a program with crappy code that doesn't kill itself when not in use.
List your installed programs.
dionysos911 said:
I clicked on it from the battery status but it only lists CPU Total, Data Sent, and Data Received. Doesn't break out what programs are doing it.
Under the running services is there a way to see the programs power usage or perhaps an app that will do this?..
On a side note my battery is now down to 30% with it's only uses since it was at 66% was taking it out of standby every once in a while to see the battery usage. Android OS is now up to 73% of the usage..
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Odd... I am on a Desire ROM, but when I open up my system battery usage, AndroidOS isn't even showing, it has a long list of apps, and appears to be in order of battery usage. I could swear AndroidOS does the same.
Download Spare Parts from the market, then click on Usage Statistics to see which apps have been running the most, etc.
I am using Task Manager to autokill apps but I feel this tool is itself eating battery no??
How do you like this ??? ...(but: no WiFi/3G used !!)
Check out the battery & hours!
vegetaleb said:
I am using Task Manager to autokill apps but I feel this tool is itself eating battery no??
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Yes.
Task manager are running service(battery eaters) that monitors and closes apps in saved states(not battery eaters) and other running services. It's counter intuitive to run autokill applications because it itself, is wasting battery killing stuff that doesn't need to be killed.
Task managers that autokill are good for applications that have ****ty code and don't close themselves, or for programs that hang up.
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If you're autokill killing services alll day long, why are you even running the services? Just run then as needed.
my display is like 65/70% of the battery use
So you are using Cyanogen ROM
Try Emo or Desire Roms it should fix display battery problems
muncheese said:
Yes.
Task manager are running service(battery eaters) that monitors and closes apps in saved states(not battery eaters) and other running services. It's counter intuitive to run autokill applications because it itself, is wasting battery killing stuff that doesn't need to be killed.
Task managers that autokill are good for applications that have ****ty code and don't close themselves, or for programs that hang up.
Nothing More
If you're autokill killing services all day long, why are you even running the services? Just run then as needed.
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I've tried more taskkiller programs (ATM, Taskiller, etc) and came to the conclusion, that the ONLY auto task killer which actually SAVES battery (compared to setup w/o task killer program) is Task Panel. Don't ask me why/ how, but with TaskPanel my N1 is fast en lean, battery lasts about 130% of native (w/o/ TaskPanel).
Of course, question is whether task killer necessary, but as I use lots of widgets, programs, in my experience task killing helps to keep my N1 fast..
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So you are using Cyanogen ROM
Try Emo or Desire Roms it should fix display battery problems
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imm using modaco custom R13 rom
http://android.modaco.com/content/g...custom-rom-for-nexus-one-with-online-kitchen/
this one
this morning at 100% it was 8am
at 2PM im at 52% , its been 6hours with 3G on, light at 25%, everything else off.
with 30min music, 10min calling, some sms and a 50min TV show....
my iphone held quite a bit better
So after some systematic disabling of apps it seems the culprit was the Touch Input that came with the HTC_IME .. After disabling that I am back up to regular battery life and android OS is only using 2% of my battery again.
Sometimes the Android OS is stuck at 70% and the battery is drained really quickly. A reboot fix it. Next time I have to check what exactly is causing that Android OS is at 70% battery usage.
So after some systematic disabling of apps it seems the culprit was the Touch Input that came with the HTC_IME .. After disabling that I am back up to regular battery life and android OS is only using 2% of my battery again.
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just to be sure, you're using nexus one? if so, can you elaborate more on what app or service you're talking about. thanks
that's weird because i am using the HTC IME keyboard and i have touch input running too, but my display takes up 90% of my battery all the time. must have been some weird glitch.
RogerPodacter said:
that's weird because i am using the HTC IME keyboard and i have touch input running too, but my display takes up 90% of my battery all the time. must have been some weird glitch.
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Yes this is a Nexus One running stock ROM.
It may have just been a fluke with the version I downloaded from this forum. I am going to install the new version as soon as I get around to it. Not sure how it did it but as soon as I disabled it my battery usage went back to normal.
I was having this same issue on a MyTouch 3G running a 1.6 Rom (TheOfficial), and it appears it's a common problem on the Droid as well from some research. I was using HTC_IME. I just switched back to the default android keyboard and will see if it fixes my battery drain issue.
(My thread in the mytouch devel forum got locked for some reason, even though I consider this a legitimate concern for ROM development, since it's a rather major and hard-to-find defect.)
UPDATE: the "Android OS" task has stopped being a problem after I switch from HTC_IME, but "Cell Standby" is now taking up 50% of the battery, so the battery still drains, but slightly 30% slower.
How long does a full charge last for you on your continuum?
I got a new warranty replacement battery from verizon yesterday, because my battery only lasted 4 hours. This was with turning off applications and having the screen off. I also have the brightness turned all the way down for when I actually use the phone.
Right now, Im running Adrynalyne's kernel and the "3.30.11 Clean Continuum DL17 Rom". I hope this battery lasts.
Mine will usually last all day (around 12 ish hours) with moderate use (meaning checking facebook, browsing the internet lightly and checking email, making calls and texting). I've never had a problem with my battery except when I first go tit and I couldn't put the thing down lol
Tricks to get your battery to last longer:
1. Get "Advanced Task Killer" from the market and kill all unnecessary processes that run. The Task Manager that comes on your phone can detect applications that are multitasking, but it can't detect processes. Processes can randomly start running when you open apps like Facebook, Browser, etc. When you press the "back" button to exit an application, these processes keep running and consume lots of battery life. I saved muchos battery life with this app.
2. Go to Settings>About phone>Battery use and see what's consuming the most of your battery life. Click on the items you see that are consuming battery life and it'll tell you if you can do anything about it.
3. Live Wallpapers consume a considerate amount of battery life, so if you're having battery problems, avoid using them.
4. Remove unneeded widgets.
5. A friend told me using battery conserving apps actually increased his battery consumption. I don't know if it's true, or why that would be but I would try testing to see if using a battery conserving app actually helps, or makes it worse.
6. Turn off WiFi when you're not using it, or it will constantly attempt to search for WiFi, decreasing your battery life.
7. Try using SetCPU, and set a limit to the processing power (is that what it's called?) that your phone can use. Don't set it to the minimum because you don't want a laggy phone, but try lowering it a bit and see if that reduces the amount of battery life used.
If that doesn't work, nothing will. I don't know why you only have 4 hours of battery life, but that should fix anything that makes your phone have less battery life
There's a better apparently than adv task killer it has like 5 apps in one its called android assistance. And its worth looking at trust me
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I have upgraded to GB firmware recently, and the battery consumption now is quite bad. So i use Juice Defender(free), it says the battery improved by 1.4X, but overnight consumption in standby mode could cost up to 40%, is there any ways to solve this?
Thanks
* I not sure should i post it here or QnA, please shift if necessary.
OnyxGraphite said:
I have upgraded to GB firmware recently, and the battery consumption now is quite bad. So i use Juice Defender(free), it says the battery improved by 1.4X, but overnight consumption in standby mode could cost up to 40%, is there any ways to solve this?
Thanks
* I not sure should i post it here or QnA, please shift if necessary.
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One suggestion is to stop using Juice Defender. I think it is keeping the the phone out of deep sleep, causing the overnight battery drain. Also, check if your wifi is set to turn off at screen off (Settings > Wifi > Wifi > [menu > advanced] > Wifi Sleep Policy). Turning off mobile data, or switching to 2g, will also help. Background data and syncing will also reduce battery life.
And yes, it should have been in Q&A.
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Frosty666 said:
One suggestion is to stop using Juice Defender. I think it is keeping the the phone out of deep sleep, causing the overnight battery drain. Also, check if your wifi is set to turn off at screen off (Settings > Wifi > Wifi > [menu > advanced] > Wifi Sleep Policy). Turning off mobile data, or switching to 2g, will also help. Background data and syncing will also reduce battery life.
And yes, it should have been in Q&A.
Sent from my x10, rocking Wolf's 2.3.3 + DooMKernel, overclocked to 1.2 GHz...
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I dont use data nor sync, i will only on the wifi if i need them, so i not sure why they drained so fast during the night since i off them, the day was ok(maybe due to JD).
Not sure is there any other alternative to help with this situation if i dont use JD?
Check your CPU usage using CPU spy overnight. Your phone should spend at least 90% in deep sleep. If not then something is keeping your phone awake burning up battery.
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Asa2303 said:
Check your CPU usage using CPU spy overnight. Your phone should spend at least 90% in deep sleep. If not then something is keeping your phone awake burning up battery.
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I just downloaded it from the market, all the bar have % in them, how do i just check overnight data?
You'll just have to leave your phone on through the night, then check CPU Spy again.
Ogbert_theNerd said:
You'll just have to leave your phone on through the night, then check CPU Spy again.
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The original data wont affect anything? Because the data now are quite low on the deep sleep. only 30over %.
Before you go to bed, reboot phone and then leave it. Check CPU when you wake.
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Just my 2 cents,
Juice Defender made my phone run extremely HOT
and the battery was draining significantly faster than usual.
Green Power Free is a good and free alternative, less features (only controls data & WiFi) but much easier to set-up too.
And it doesn't hurt battery life all that much.
Bear in mind though, any app that runs constantly in the background
and manages core phone functions, will impact your battery and CPU usage.
In my opinion, an APN and WiFi on/off widgets come quite handy.
Asa2303 said:
Before you go to bed, reboot phone and then leave it. Check CPU when you wake.
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Alright, got it. Will update the result within these few days and ask for more advice. Thanks guys.
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iridaki said:
Just my 2 cents,
Juice Defender made my phone run extremely HOT
and the battery was draining significantly faster than usual.
Green Power Free is a good and free alternative, less features (only controls data & WiFi) but much easier to set-up too.
And it doesn't hurt battery life all that much.
Bear in mind though, any app that runs constantly in the background
and manages core phone functions, will impact your battery and CPU usage.
In my opinion, an APN and WiFi on/off widgets come quite handy.
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I will try that and uninstall JD instead. =D
Actually i dont use data at all, so data ia off all the time. Wifi i used it at times, but i do off it when not in use. Sync i do not put it as auto too. I kill task quite often too.
EDIT: that app like dont do much, i didnt change change the setting at all, somewhat my basic settings. =X
OnyxGraphite said:
I kill task quite often too.
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DON'T.
See, most -if not all- task killers use a very "nasty" way to kill apps
and the system thinks that they crashed and immediately restarts them.
Which leads to increased CPU usage and battery drain.
Don't kill tasks, let Android handle its memory.
Does Android tell you what to eat and when?
Why should you tell it how to function?
If you have many useless apps that include background services,
(and I bet you have, since you are not using data and you installed Juice Defender! hehehe )
consider uninstalling them to "clean up" your phone.
iridaki said:
DON'T.
See, most -if not all- task killers use a very "nasty" way to kill apps
and the system thinks that they crashed and immediately restarts them.
Which leads to increased CPU usage and battery drain.
Don't kill tasks, let Android handle its memory.
Does Android tell you what to eat and when?
Why should you tell it how to function?
If you have many useless apps that include background services,
(and I bet you have, since you are not using data and you installed Juice Defender! hehehe )
consider uninstalling them to "clean up" your phone.
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Mostly i have is games and i do play them, i will uninstall them when i dont need them =X Some do pop out after crashing them, then i just force close them if they appear on the kill task list again.
Programs which appeared on the kill task list is what are actually running?
OnyxGraphite said:
Mostly i have is games and i do play them, i will uninstall them when i dont need them =X Some do pop out after crashing them, then i just force close them if they appear on the kill task list again.
Programs which appeared on the kill task list is what are actually running?
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No, programs in the kill task list can be in either one of 5 states.
Read this:
Android
On Android, apps are suspended when they are no longer visible to the user. Suspended means the app is still in memory, but it is frozen. No processing or event handling happens. If the system needs additional memory, the least-frequently used apps that are suspended (in the background) have their state saved to persistent storage and are then killed, freeing up their memory. To the user though, those apps still appear to be in the background. When they are brought to the foreground to be used again, they are restarted and passed an object containing their last state so they can be restored to look exactly as the user left them.
If an app requires processing while in the background, then it must also have a service component. A service on Android is like a separate small application that runs without a user interface in the background (though not actually a separate application). The service has a server/client relationship with the app. It performs whatever action an app needs it to continue performing should the app be suspended. For example, the service might handle all uploading, so if an app is placed in the background while an upload is in progress, the upload continues. Or, like Pandora, the service might handle all network streaming and audio output with the app only acting as the front-end controls. Unlike apps, services are not suspended or killed (except in extreme low-memory conditions).
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So, no need for task-killers, you are only making things worse. Trust me on that.
It seems package disablers are pretty popular now for helping you disable some apps that you wouldnt otherwise be able to disable. It seems alot of peoples reasoning for disabling apps is to save battery but iam wondering how much battery is the package disabler app itself using? After all. Its constantly running in the back working to keep those apps from waking right??
First of all, once you disable the app, it is disabled forever, no need for PD. As far as how much saving you get? 3 nights ago charged phone 100% before sleep, wake up 98%, 2 nights ago charged 100% before sleep, wake up 80% left. That would be x10 higher power usage . I went to app manager and force stop about 5 apps and everything went back to normal. Some apps can be brutal on battery (not sure if by design or it crashed) and all those people complaining about poor battery, it's not the phone, it's some programs running in background. For example If I don't even have facebook account, why is facebook running on my phone? If you know what you're doing you could easily double battery life.
Iam not fully understanding your reply! Are you saying package disabler is the reason your battery life improved?
pete4k said:
First of all, once you disable the app, it is disabled forever, no need for PD. As far as how much saving you get? 3 nights ago charged phone 100% before sleep, wake up 98%, 2 nights ago charged 100% before sleep, wake up 80% left. That would be x10 higher power usage . I went to app manager and force stop about 5 apps and everything went back to normal. Some apps can be brutal on battery (not sure if by design or it crashed) and all those people complaining about poor battery, it's not the phone, it's some programs running in background. For example If I don't even have facebook account, why is facebook running on my phone? If you know what you're doing you could easily double battery life.
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So what's your secret then?!
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I bought but haven't really touched Package Disabler Pro.
I think its better to have 1 app controlling/blocking multiple things than having multiple apps running multiple things and wasting battery.
Blaalad12 said:
It seems package disablers are pretty popular now for helping you disable some apps that you wouldnt otherwise be able to disable. It seems alot of peoples reasoning for disabling apps is to save battery but iam wondering how much battery is the package disabler app itself using? After all. Its constantly running in the back working to keep those apps from waking right??
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I run package disabler pro and it shows as 0% battery usage with 37% battery left. I don't think the app runs in the background, it just force closes the apps that you select and disables them from running, so I think it helps your battery seeing it stops other apps from using your battery.
Is there any apps in particular recommended to disable besides the obvious? When i view the list of files within package disabler. It shows some items using ram but most of them seem to have no affect on battery life and aren't intrusive in anyway so i imagine it's just not necessary to disable them. I mainly wanted to disable Knox and bixby but bixby doesn't seem to be using any battery so again, iam not sure i need to disable it.
To make quick points in simplest way:
1. For best performance, only programs that you actually use should be running on your phone.
2. Package disabler is the program to use for system files, especially now, since we have no root yet.
As far as looking at the battery statistics, they are not very reliable IMO: I had my phone discharging 2% overnight and at other time 20%, when I looked at settings/battery/battery usage they looked almost the same in both cases: Android OS, Android System, Device Idle etc. no smoking gun and yet the phone was using battery x10 more. I do not know what caused this excessive usage, but I went to APP manager and manually force stop every non system application and all went back to normal. This is not the first time this happened to me and IMO simplest solution is not to have unnecessary software running on my phone, less chance for the programs to go haywire.
I have an HD8 (2018), it's rooted and removed all amazon software using the toolbox on xda.
So it's in good shape and I like it, just it reduces the batter relatively faster than all my other device, if I not using my HD8 for a whole day, it'll reduce battery from 100% to 80%,
this is acceptable but also significantly faster than my iPad and phone when not using them.
To be clear, I'm not using the Automate app script to keep Amazon ads closed, there is no script constantly running in the Automate app, so I really not sure why it reduces the battery so fast.
Is this normal? How can I find out which apps are reducing the battery while the device is in sleep mode?
Thanks!
sky1331 said:
I have an HD8 (2018), it's rooted and removed all amazon software using the toolbox on xda.
So it's in good shape and I like it, just it reduces the batter relatively faster than all my other device, if I not using my HD8 for a whole day, it'll reduce battery from 100% to 80%,
this is acceptable but also significantly faster than my iPad and phone when not using them.
To be clear, I'm not using the Automate app script to keep Amazon ads closed, there is no script constantly running in the Automate app, so I really not sure why it reduces the battery so fast.
Is this normal? How can I find out which apps are reducing the battery while the device is in sleep mode?
Thanks!
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Install a battery monitoring app like Acubattery, GSAM or BBS from the Play Store (my preference is GSAM). Should be evident which app is not playing nice after a few screen-off cycles.
You can also derive this information from tools built into Android 7+ (FireOS v6) but it takes a little more experience to collect and interpret the results.
I've found that disabling everything Amazon can drain battery more than leaving it all intact.
In that case, you'll need to find the culprit by reenabling and then disable things gradually and see what happens.
Kctucka said:
I've found that disabling everything Amazon can drain battery more than leaving it all intact.
In that case, you'll need to find the culprit by reenabling and then disable things gradually and see what happens.
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Same. My battery life TANKED when I debloated. It returned to it's great battery life once I rebloated. It sucks..
runderekrun said:
Same. My battery life TANKED when I debloated. It returned to it's great battery life once I rebloated. It sucks..
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Debloating is not an all or nothing action. Disable items one at a time until you find the culprit ravaging your battery. Leave that pup enabled and move on to the next item. Only disable items are exceptionally annoying instead of nuking everything.
I have an HD 8 (2017) 7th Generation. I rooted it and put in Google Store, and then debloated a few Amazon apps. I also replaced the /etc/hosts file for ad-blocking purpose. Then I found that the battery drained really quickly.
By using BetterBatteryStats https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 I found that one app maintains Partial Locks constantly. Once I disable it, the tablet would get into Deep Sleep state more often.
(On a PC/Mac with adb)
adb shell
su
pm disable com.amazon.client.metrics
sky1331 said:
I have an HD8 (2018), it's rooted and removed all amazon software using the toolbox on xda.
So it's in good shape and I like it, just it reduces the batter relatively faster than all my other device, if I not using my HD8 for a whole day, it'll reduce battery from 100% to 80%,
this is acceptable but also significantly faster than my iPad and phone when not using them.
To be clear, I'm not using the Automate app script to keep Amazon ads closed, there is no script constantly running in the Automate app, so I really not sure why it reduces the battery so fast.
Is this normal? How can I find out which apps are reducing the battery while the device is in sleep mode?
Thanks!
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The battery is draining quickly, that's the Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and Location services are turned on, and running an unnecessary apps in background.
Disable this:
-> Collect App Usage Data
-> Location Services
-> System sounds
-> UI animations (in developer settings)
Enable this:
-> Airplane mode (it will turning off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth)
-> Do not disturb (scheduled at 12:00am to 7:00am)
Uninstall an unnecessary apps.
AmznUser444 Dev said:
The battery is draining quickly, that's the Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and Location services are turned on, and running an unnecessary apps in background.
Disable this:
-> Collect App Usage Data
-> Location Services
-> System sounds
-> UI animations (in developer settings)
Enable this:
-> Airplane mode (it will turning off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth)
-> Do not disturb (scheduled at 12:00am to 7:00am)
Uninstall an unnecessary apps.
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Following this Rx effectively cripples the device. Several recommendations have nothing to do with power savings (where do get this stuff).
Install a battery/power monitoring tool like GSAM which will quickly identify the culprits. You can also use tools built into most ROMs (including FireOS) but the info is often scattered across several different locations.