My phone has been off the charger for roughly 3 hours and my batter is already down to 66% .. I spent about 10 minutes in the market and that's about it.
Battery status looks like this-
Android OS 70%
Display 10%
Android System 5%
Cell Standby 4%
Phone Idle 3%
Market 2 %
Any ideas on what is going on with my android OS?
*Running completely stock*
Rooted phones have a few extra options like cpu settings unvolted kernel. Stock phones-try to lower you brightness, shorten screen time out, turn off gps and bluetooth. There is a app called juicedefinder that seems to help.
check what services are running maybe?
settings>applications>running services
dionysos911 said:
My phone has been off the charger for roughly 3 hours and my batter is already down to 66% .. I spent about 10 minutes in the market and that's about it.
Battery status looks like this-
Android OS 70%
Display 10%
Android System 5%
Cell Standby 4%
Phone Idle 3%
Market 2 %
Any ideas on what is going on with my android OS?
*Running completely stock*
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You can click on Android OS and get a more detailed break down of what is using up the most juice in that subset... I am betting you downloaded an app at some point that is corrupt and running non-stop draining your battery.
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You can click on Android OS and get a more detailed break down of what is using up the most juice in that subset... I am betting you downloaded an app at some point that is corrupt and running non-stop draining your battery.
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I clicked on it from the battery status but it only lists CPU Total, Data Sent, and Data Received. Doesn't break out what programs are doing it.
Under the running services is there a way to see the programs power usage or perhaps an app that will do this?..
On a side note my battery is now down to 30% with it's only uses since it was at 66% was taking it out of standby every once in a while to see the battery usage. Android OS is now up to 73% of the usage..
You either have a high refresh rate for data on a running service, or you downloaded a program with crappy code that doesn't kill itself when not in use.
List your installed programs.
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I clicked on it from the battery status but it only lists CPU Total, Data Sent, and Data Received. Doesn't break out what programs are doing it.
Under the running services is there a way to see the programs power usage or perhaps an app that will do this?..
On a side note my battery is now down to 30% with it's only uses since it was at 66% was taking it out of standby every once in a while to see the battery usage. Android OS is now up to 73% of the usage..
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Odd... I am on a Desire ROM, but when I open up my system battery usage, AndroidOS isn't even showing, it has a long list of apps, and appears to be in order of battery usage. I could swear AndroidOS does the same.
Download Spare Parts from the market, then click on Usage Statistics to see which apps have been running the most, etc.
I am using Task Manager to autokill apps but I feel this tool is itself eating battery no??
How do you like this ??? ...(but: no WiFi/3G used !!)
Check out the battery & hours!
vegetaleb said:
I am using Task Manager to autokill apps but I feel this tool is itself eating battery no??
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Yes.
Task manager are running service(battery eaters) that monitors and closes apps in saved states(not battery eaters) and other running services. It's counter intuitive to run autokill applications because it itself, is wasting battery killing stuff that doesn't need to be killed.
Task managers that autokill are good for applications that have ****ty code and don't close themselves, or for programs that hang up.
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If you're autokill killing services alll day long, why are you even running the services? Just run then as needed.
my display is like 65/70% of the battery use
So you are using Cyanogen ROM
Try Emo or Desire Roms it should fix display battery problems
muncheese said:
Yes.
Task manager are running service(battery eaters) that monitors and closes apps in saved states(not battery eaters) and other running services. It's counter intuitive to run autokill applications because it itself, is wasting battery killing stuff that doesn't need to be killed.
Task managers that autokill are good for applications that have ****ty code and don't close themselves, or for programs that hang up.
Nothing More
If you're autokill killing services all day long, why are you even running the services? Just run then as needed.
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I've tried more taskkiller programs (ATM, Taskiller, etc) and came to the conclusion, that the ONLY auto task killer which actually SAVES battery (compared to setup w/o task killer program) is Task Panel. Don't ask me why/ how, but with TaskPanel my N1 is fast en lean, battery lasts about 130% of native (w/o/ TaskPanel).
Of course, question is whether task killer necessary, but as I use lots of widgets, programs, in my experience task killing helps to keep my N1 fast..
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So you are using Cyanogen ROM
Try Emo or Desire Roms it should fix display battery problems
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imm using modaco custom R13 rom
http://android.modaco.com/content/g...custom-rom-for-nexus-one-with-online-kitchen/
this one
this morning at 100% it was 8am
at 2PM im at 52% , its been 6hours with 3G on, light at 25%, everything else off.
with 30min music, 10min calling, some sms and a 50min TV show....
my iphone held quite a bit better
So after some systematic disabling of apps it seems the culprit was the Touch Input that came with the HTC_IME .. After disabling that I am back up to regular battery life and android OS is only using 2% of my battery again.
Sometimes the Android OS is stuck at 70% and the battery is drained really quickly. A reboot fix it. Next time I have to check what exactly is causing that Android OS is at 70% battery usage.
So after some systematic disabling of apps it seems the culprit was the Touch Input that came with the HTC_IME .. After disabling that I am back up to regular battery life and android OS is only using 2% of my battery again.
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just to be sure, you're using nexus one? if so, can you elaborate more on what app or service you're talking about. thanks
that's weird because i am using the HTC IME keyboard and i have touch input running too, but my display takes up 90% of my battery all the time. must have been some weird glitch.
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that's weird because i am using the HTC IME keyboard and i have touch input running too, but my display takes up 90% of my battery all the time. must have been some weird glitch.
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Yes this is a Nexus One running stock ROM.
It may have just been a fluke with the version I downloaded from this forum. I am going to install the new version as soon as I get around to it. Not sure how it did it but as soon as I disabled it my battery usage went back to normal.
I was having this same issue on a MyTouch 3G running a 1.6 Rom (TheOfficial), and it appears it's a common problem on the Droid as well from some research. I was using HTC_IME. I just switched back to the default android keyboard and will see if it fixes my battery drain issue.
(My thread in the mytouch devel forum got locked for some reason, even though I consider this a legitimate concern for ROM development, since it's a rather major and hard-to-find defect.)
UPDATE: the "Android OS" task has stopped being a problem after I switch from HTC_IME, but "Cell Standby" is now taking up 50% of the battery, so the battery still drains, but slightly 30% slower.
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hello guys i have x10a fw r2ba026 rooted and i install setcpu and i have 2 task killers systempanel and process manager but still i dont see any improvement in my battery life i dont even know what to do. please guys when u read this thread please reply. i went to my battery use and this is the result i got it says 8 hours since unplugged but i unplugged like 13 hours ago i dont know why its saying that please help
8h 20m 39s since unplugged
display 72%
cell standby 8%
voice calls 6%
phone idle 5%
android system 3%
maps 3%
browser 2%
wifi 2%
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2 task killers systempanel and process manager but still i dont see any improvement in my battery life
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i would not bother running task killers. i have not got anything like that running in my rooted 26 and i can get 2 days from a charge with general usage. Task killers run and actually chew up more power than they free up and on another note, android itself is very clever at handling resources. you do not need to have 80% of your ram free (read: wasted) in order for your phone to be running well. android will kill off tasks as required.
my advise, ditch your task killers and enjoy longer battery life
I agree, automatic task killers are a complete waste of time.
Ditch the task killers. Seriously.
Also make sure your screen brightness isn't too high. Just wastes battery for nothing.
should i uninstall setcpu also? or keep it ? i uninstall process manager but havnt uninstalled systempanel
battery
on my x10 firmware v...26 rooted, battery lasts over 3 days. HOWEVER for 30hours was in plane mode and i use SetCPU in powersave mode...It's third week since i bought the phone. And screen brightness is on automatic. In that 3 days 1 reboot, few calls, mp3s, video clips, vwifi web browsing for a few minutes. If I want to play for instance NFS shift It will last for only a few hours...
@kremx can u tell me your setcpu profile settings? r u using any task killers?
I use setcpu and juice defender, both on automatic settings and set to start on bootup. Batt lasts 2 days with normal usage
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I agree, automatic task killers are a complete waste of time.
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I see that said a lot on here, has the theory been tested at all, is there any data to support that?
In response to the O.P, I use Advanced Task Killer and SetCPU.
i use setcpu and juice defender, works well for me, i get bout 20 hours of heavy usage out of my phone which is a lot better then when i first got it (got like 6 hrs of battery life), i am also running 020
edit: am also using helix launcher
mate as bin said by others, cant stress enuf, get rid of any task killers and battery aids as i hav found they do more harm, since the update the only thing i use is SEEPU to monitor the processor and memory, and my battery life has improved on mass amount, typical day, unplug at midnite, 3%/4% used overnight, bluetooth on at 8 till 4.30 with gps and sometimes wifi with few phone calls and tx plus bit of browsing market etc, by time i get home for 5.30 i still hav 65% left, so could easy do 2 day, if i turned it all off i reckon i could prob get 3 half day out of the battery maybe little more
@Shonan_ thanks an ill delete all taskkiller on phone to see how it goes. what is seepu app for i saw it on market how do i use it? does it have any benefit?
Imho task killers, setcpu etc. do more harm than help. Your display usage seems high what is your display timeout? Mines set at a minute and while my battery only lasts a day, the r1f fw my battery would only last 4-6 hours. Definite improvement. Hope this helps
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i download helix launcher omg in 6 hours i only lost 5% with like 15 texts and 10 mins call and 45 mins browsing. wow every1 should install helix launcher donut.
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wow every1 should install helix launcher donut.
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Nice! glad to hear it is going better for you
FWIW - i run ADW launcher on mine, no task killers/CPU or Battery tools and short screen timeouts. I get great battery life.
Turn down the display brightness!!!
the_ahmadzais said:
hello guys i have x10a fw r2ba026 rooted and i install setcpu and i have 2 task killers systempanel and process manager but still i dont see any improvement in my battery life i dont even know what to do. please guys when u read this thread please reply. i went to my battery use and this is the result i got it says 8 hours since unplugged but i unplugged like 13 hours ago i dont know why its saying that please help
8h 20m 39s since unplugged
display 72%
cell standby 8%
voice calls 6%
phone idle 5%
android system 3%
maps 3%
browser 2%
wifi 2%
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72% of your battery goes to display! Man that should give a clue!
Turn down the brightness of your display, way down. 20% brightness perhaps, that's what I can live with under most weather circumstances.
Even with auto-brightness my display doesn't eat THAT much battery.
Do you live perhaps in a very sunny area, that you keep your display so bright??
Anyway, to improve your battery life, turn down the brightness!!
I found juice defender made a difference. Before I installed it Android System was using the most power, now it's screen which is as it should be!
sent from my rooted x10i using XDA App
tnleeuw said:
72% of your battery goes to display! Man that should give a clue!
Turn down the brightness of your display, way down. 20% brightness perhaps, that's what I can live with under most weather circumstances.
Even with auto-brightness my display doesn't eat THAT much battery.
Do you live perhaps in a very sunny area, that you keep your display so bright??
Anyway, to improve your battery life, turn down the brightness!!
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I also dont get great battery life and the display is always using at least 70% of it when I check the usage but when I turn off auto brightness it ends up being brighter even when its manually turned all the way down so it seems auto would make more sense....
First let me tell you exactly what my phone says
9 Hours 42 Minutes since unplugged
Battery Level 84 %
Display 41 %
The major things that can help in saving the battery is killing the 3G and Manually set the brightness.
am using the 3G only when i need it , i wont keep it running all the time, the reason of that is most of our apps mails etc, will Auto sync , and that will eat your batter.
Plus : Stop GPS , Bluetooth when it is not needed
why display shows 70 % of consumption ?? (((( cause you have 4 inches LCD screen ))) , smaller the screen the less it will use .
Task Killer , is not for saving battery , it is for freeing your RAM , X10 has 384 MB RAM , Android is using more than 200 MB out of it , leaving you with less than 180 MB to run your apps , so if you run few apps your free RAM will start dropping and you will start feeling how heavy is it to start any app.
I agree to the post above.
Here are the check list to improve battery life:
If you use email, put the update duration to max, except for important mail account
Set brightness to automatic
Enabled GPS, Bluetooth and WiFI when required
Only enabled 3G when you are using the phone for internet access (Find a good 2G-3G switch apps, mine runs in notification), i also found talking on 2G line gives better quality specially if you live where 3G BTS is very scarce
Uninstall all task killer and battery management
Use less widget, widget updates also takes baterry
I usually able to run the phone without need to charge for 2 days for daily task such as check email, messaging, IM and few phone calls.
wlan - standby
... with juice plotter i have seen, that my wlan-standby (screen off) does not work correctly, if some apps (also no typical always on apps) are installed, but i cant remember which ones. So after installing new apps, i always check juice plotter after (in the standby mode) ...
... i know some apps are doing an intervall update, that is ok (you can see spikes in juice plotter) but a 100% time use is silly ...
... is there a app i can monitor, which app and when an app use wlan/gps/bt (time/open/close) ???
I have seen over and over people state how they use ATK or other task killers to improve battery life, when in fact they are actually hurting android 2.2 multi tasking. In 2.2 google changed the api that devs used to kill apps in all other versions of android. I myself use Auto Killer and Auto starts. Those two apps tweak androids internal task manager and keep my phone running smooth
Even the creator of ATK and the other most popular task manager Advance task killer have stated it. Your better of using an app like Auto Killer ( http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.rs.autokiller ). It tweaks android internal task manager.
AutoKiller is an award winner minfree tweaker, it fine tunes android's inner memory manager to keep your device fast and lowers battery consumption. Also includes a manual process/service manager.
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Here are a couple articles about why you dont need them in android 2.2
FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
Froyo update kills Android task killer apps
http://androinica.com/2010/08/09/froyo-update-kills-android-task-killer-apps/
Task killers have long been a crutch for users to forcefully shut down applications and “free up memory” to conserve battery life and space. However, that’s a common misconception buoyed by old Android flaws and the power of the placebo effect. Task killers actually get in the way of Android handling memory management as intended. We’ve already written an article on why you should not be using a task killer, so read that post for more information.
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Google and Cyanogen comments imply task killer/manager apps are pointless
http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/go...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
However, developers of task killing apps are of a different opinion. Arron La, developer of Advance Task Manager, suggests that task killers are more important for legacy devices like the G1 and phones running older versions of Android.
“Task Managers were absolutely needed in the past before the new services UI came out in Android 2.0 or 2.1,” La said in an e-mail. “Task Managers had a niche of allowing users to quickly kill services associated with apps – including all the other stuff as well, such as alarms – but that was the only way to do it before the introduction of the new services UI.”
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I am gunna try out the difference. I do follow cyanogen and I saw that exact tweet lol. at the time though i was on windows. we will see what happens.
This needs to be moved to the head of the class as it is great info and everyone should read.
There is a lot of people running around saying task killers need to be used.
THis isnt winmo.
The idea that leaving all your applications open not hurting performance or battery flies against what most of us expect to be true. Lately ATK hasn't worked. I'll kill all apps, then minutes later they will all reappear. I will try going without a task killer for a while and monitor subsequent battery life.
What about all the OCD people? I would imagine it being hard for people with OCD to not compulsively close tasks.
I would add the use of auto killer as the op has stated. It works in conjunction with the way android kills task. You can set it aggressively or not. I cannot quote on battery life as I tend to damage mine. Only a rogue app would cause major drain. I also use a program called data on demand. That works by turning off data when the phone is off and lock.
this is indeed an interesting light for us all!
testing begins.
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The idea that leaving all your applications open not hurting performance or battery flies against what most of us expect to be true. Lately ATK hasn't worked. I'll kill all apps, then minutes later they will all reappear. I will try going without a task killer for a while and monitor subsequent battery life.
What about all the OCD people? I would imagine it being hard for people with OCD to not compulsively close tasks.
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As an actual sufferer of OCD who is trying out the no task killer method, I will say that it IS making me itch a little bit :/
....need to stop killing tasks. Its hard. I'm so used to it now. Will report my findings!
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Glad to see everyone is finding this info helpful. The word really needs to be spread.
Also you can add an app called watchdog that monitors your memory and lets you know when it gets below a certain threshold. it will then notify you and let you know wich app caused the memory drain.
You can do it. Consider this the support group for those who don't use task killers.
Thank u mvp77 for bringing this to light. For me my hd2 runs so smooth!!!
Well, with no task killer, after about 90 minutes of sitting on my desk at work, sending about 20 texts & listenening to 2 songs, my battery went from 70% to 35%. I was shocked at the accelerated battery drain, and I noticed that the back of my phone started getting hot too, which it NEVER did before I disabled the ATK. I re-enabled it around 5:30 on the way home, and after heavier texting, data, and music usage, it's only gone down to 22% after 4 hours.
I'm gonna conclude that my task killer serves a very good purpose, at least with my specific setup. Methinks I'll keep it enabled!
wow thats really strange because that actually goes against the way android actually works. as it stands the task killer is needlessly killing so called process's that may not even be active.
This is based on what the google android developers say. To each their own I will continue you to run without it as a see a speed increase without it. I would venture to say that there is a program that is causing problems.
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Well, with no task killer, after about 90 minutes of sitting on my desk at work, sending about 20 texts & listenening to 2 songs, my battery went from 70% to 35%. I was shocked at the accelerated battery drain, and I noticed that the back of my phone started getting hot too, which it NEVER did before I disabled the ATK. I re-enabled it around 5:30 on the way home, and after heavier texting, data, and music usage, it's only gone down to 22% after 4 hours.
I'm gonna conclude that my task killer serves a very good purpose, at least with my specific setup. Methinks I'll keep it enabled!
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I have never experienced battery drain like that. It would seem you have a bad app causing it. I would suggest you install watchdog and set the threshold at 30% and see what app is causing the problem.
The Creator of ATK stated on his blog, witch I can't find now, that his app does not work the same with 2.2 because the API used is no longer there.
Also install autokiller and autostarts to tweak android internal task manager and to stop unnecessary apps from starting.
I think it is the placebo effect cyangon and others mentioned.
I actually think my screen is killing my battery. I have to much current draw as noted using current widget.
I'll try Watchdog, and I've already got autokiller & autostarts installed.
I'm thinking about hard resetting. I've noticed that lately my battery hasn't even been charging completely, it only goes to 95% unless I charge it in WM or when it's turned off.
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I actually think my screen is killing my battery. I have to much current draw as noted using current widget.
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I believe I have the same issue running ShubCraft 1.5. 95% of the power consumption goes to display, while everything else is at 5%. This is after 1 hour of usage.
In comparison. If I use MattC SenseUI build. 45% goes to battery while everything else goes to Phone Standy or Idle.
Though I can get about 20 hours on Shubcraft instead of like 8 hours for MattC. SenseUI must be very taxing on battery.
Well Like i stated at the beginning I ruin batterys by constantly tethering or atleast I think it does.
Watching the current widget the ma's can be upwards of 150ma which isnt right at all. When I look at watchdog I am under 95% idle which means apps are behaving correctly.
looking at the battery information it shows that the display is using the most of my battery.
Watch dog states that the android system is using 1.3% of cpu.
If i select real time watchdog jump to 6.8 percent which is understandable since it isnt being passive.
Right now I think the screen management is the problem. I cant do this any scientific way but based on what I see it seems to be the only reasonable thought.
+1 for screen being the cause every thing i use to test shows as screen being the issue of battery drain next to some live wallpapers
100% AGREE!!!
I have tried Taskiller and ATK and both did what they were made to do but my battery simply was eaten 12% every hour... So, I uninstalled EVERYTHING related to "battery preservation" and installed AUTOKILLER - this gave me 60% improvement over my old setup and battery life... I now easily pull more than 24hrs in stand-by - about 15hrs with average usage!
FYI: When installing certain apps (as AutoKiller) allow three four charging cycles - use phone as usual and re-charge 3-4 times... You will see that battery self-operates into the best working option and it starts working great...
With setCpu and ATK installed (with kill set during screen off and setcpu on ignore list) I had 12% drain / hr on stand-by ...
Both have been uninstalled now and only Autokiller is installed (Akiller shrinks memory threshold so Apps are shut-down natural "organic" way by Android OS) and I get less than 5%/hr drain on batery...
How is that possible? Simple - Linux is not like WinMo or WinOS - running process does not necessarily means it will drain battery.
I got a heavy battery drain after flashing to the official Kies 2.2 here in Norway, on JM2 I had over two days usable time, now down to a normal day.
I've reset it several times, tried running it without any apps at all, still heavy battery drain. After checking the battery statistics/history I can see under "Partial awake time", Android System, 2 hours after 14 hours "uptime". And under "Sensor use", Gallery eats up 9 hours, 11 mins. Now what the hell is that about T_T
At least waiting for the new official fw in november.. At least the GPS got better for my part, so it's not all bad
After updating to the official 2.2 that came here in Norway, I started experiencing heavy battery drain compared to before.
After some digging I noticed under *#*#4636#*#* and Battery History and Sensor Usage, Gallery is on top! And it's using the phone's sensors almost 100% of the time it's been on. So, now; the phone has been unplugged for 12 hours, 14 minutes, and Gallery has used the sensors for 12 hours, 4 minutes. Doesn't make sense.
I suspected wifi to be the culprit to begin with, as it throned at the top in the normal battery drainage-graph (about phone, battery usage), but even if I turned off wifi, 3g and autosync over the night, the battery percentage fell just as quickly.
Now, I've tried resetting the phone several times, as I thought it was an installed app that caused the drainage, but that wasn't the case. So, what else can I do when a reset doesn't do it?
Using a GT-i9000 with JPM/JP6 non-rooted.
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After updating to the official 2.2 that came here in Norway, I started experiencing heavy battery drain compared to before.
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Well, for what it's worth I too experienced exceptionally high battery usage when I updated to JP6 via KIES hack (same version as yours). Downgraded to the latest stock ROM for my region (Eclair JG4) and the issue is gone.
Now I think I will wait for the official 2.2 update for my region (although, having had a peek at what Froyo has to offer I think I can pretty safely even skip it without missing much).
I too notice a lot of power drain and general lack of ram. What I found was that froyo has a crapload of startup services/processes compared to eclair. I disabled most of them that could be removed and replaced most of the rest like k9 for email and handscent for messeging. System seems less laggy due to more free ram and more power as CPU isn't bogged down by extra unwanted processes like samsungs remote wipe and stupid sns
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I'm also suffering from battery drainage with Froyo (JP6). I was quite satisfied with battery use on Eclair. Froyo has reduced battery life almost by 50 percent. I have same programs and I'm using exactly the same settings than with Eclair. I haven't noticed anything odd from the battery history statistics though. Only strange thing is that phone reports that screen in consuming over 90 percent of the battery all the time. Well, that's just not true.
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I'm also suffering from battery drainage with Froyo (JP6). I was quite satisfied with battery use on Eclair. Froyo has reduced battery life almost by 50 percent. I have same programs and I'm using exactly the same settings than with Eclair. I haven't noticed anything odd from the battery history statistics though. Only strange thing is that phone reports that screen in consuming over 90 percent of the battery all the time. Well, that's just not true.
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it's a sensor issue, looking at the spare parts batt usage stats. but no idea what sensor/app is the culprit. very annoying
An App I use daily for all manor including checking battery usage is 'SystemPanel'. It's been a God-send and sorted out many a problem.
There's a Free & paid version but the App is that good I immediately went for the paid App.
In 6 hours battery has gone from full charge to 85% in standby mode.
Is this normal? Charge goes awfuly quick when using the phone.
3G on, all syncs off.
Running on Froyo reg hack. Same problem on Eclair!
Phone is 85% charge from full charge on idle over 6 hours.
3G is on, 2 bars showing. WiFi on, not connected.
Display 50%, WiFi 30%, Cell 14%, Phone 6%
Froyo, Eclair same usage except Wifi connected better with Eclair on home network...
2 meters from wifi transmitter and signal fluctuates.
Also, anyone's stock browser lags with yogurt? Was good on eclair
Is it because of fash? Seems to lag on all sites now.
Just to add to this... I had similar battery life in Froyo... HOWEVER, yesterday I used the Gallery and my battery drained from full in under 10 hours with no use (overnight standby with data off).
I check my battery stats when i switched my phone back on and they're okay for the 'since last unplugged'... however... for 'all time' gallery is also my highest user!
So, looks like gallery is only a problem if you use it... if not, it's fine.
crabby
I also have like a 2hr sensor usage on my gallery...
About the light sensor atleast on the JPM/JP6 theres like 2 steps of brightness full and low.. is this normal ?
Beards said:
An App I use daily for all manor including checking battery usage is 'SystemPanel'. It's been a God-send and sorted out many a problem.
There's a Free & paid version but the App is that good I immediately went for the paid App.
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+1 for that app! Paid one with possibility to see history over time..
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Sensor usage for me was also 100% in spare parts, even if the phone was off. I had to turn off auto-rotate, and it quickly became a lot less. Although I have to say it haven't solved my problem! My battery consumption with full brightness over wifi is 10%/30 min. That's just ridiculous. I'm still on the problem, and will update anything I find out. We could actually make a "BIG BATTERY DRAINAGE" thread, where everybody posts detailed logs about the drain.
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+1 for that app! Paid one with possibility to see history over time..
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I have the payed version, How do I set it to monitor battery usage and show w/c app is using the battery so much ?
i'm on jp6 and my gallery is eating up my sensor usage too ):
looks like I've got to restart everytime I use the gallery.
EarlZ said:
I have the payed version, How do I set it to monitor battery usage and show w/c app is using the battery so much ?
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activate monitoring under "menu / settings tab"
then you can see look under menu/monitor and select history tab..
on top tab where it says plot you can select top apps.
/H
just a question. you guys that are experiencing the sensor issues, are you on jp6? could it be a jp6 issue?
Exchange email accounts are a huge drain to in Scandinavian Froyo
If you set up Exchange email accounts, setting the Email retrieval update interval to anything else than 'Never' results in a continious 10% CPU load, draining the battery two times faster than in Eclair 2.1
Set it to 'Never', or have Tasker kill the Email app x seconds after Display Off
Determined by using System Panel app.
I have notice a large battery drain overnight with the OFFICIAL samsung froyo JPO. I suspect it may be the gallery/sensor issue.
1 can anyone affirm this.
2 can we replace the gallery or fix it
tanks
JPA was better for me. With JPO I noticed that the media scanner would eat up the CPU all the time. It seems to get stuck on certain files more easily.
Battery drAin last night 10% and alarm didnt sound.
Now have 5%, and drain 1% each 3 or 4 min, its amazing... (mode ironic off).
What can I do?
No wifi or data plan activated, only phone in 3g mode...
Download TaskKiller from the market and kill any task you aint using. Then fully charge and keep the memuse low
friscoltu959 said:
Battery drAin last night 10% and alarm didnt sound.
Now have 5%, and drain 1% each 3 or 4 min, its amazing... (mode ironic off).
What can I do?
No wifi or data plan activated, only phone in 3g mode...
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weird as I'm using the same setup as you are, only 3G activated and my battery goes 16 hours with 93% left.
Till today with an hour and a half of game play, my battery went to 49% after 36 hours unplugged.
The battery is amazing, you just need yo restart and check what's activating in background
Do you have whatsapp running?
I'm not using any task killers by the way
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Task killers are not good for what you are talking about here. Don't just sit there kill every task you see. That could actually hurt your battery performance because the kernel will just start those apps and processes right back up again taking cycles from the cpu, and juice from your battery
Besides, Gingerbread has it's own task killer, so why clutter your system with more unnecessary apps?
What you need to do is open your battery stats and find what exactly is running and destroying your battery. Im most certain its only one thing, and just stop that one process.
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I have new experiences. Let´s go...
23:00 - 00:00: Only wifi turn on. Twitter, facebook, playing snes emulator, also fpse psx emulator. My baterry drain 60% to 50%.
00:00: All radios turn off. Very impressed 23:00 to 00:00 because only 10% of battery usage on heavy mobile working. Let´s see what happened when I go to bed.
00:00 - 7:30: With 50% of battery, alarm don´t sound because ALL BATTERY HAVE DISSAPEARED, in other words, 0% of battery. Seven hours after, with all radios off (airplane mode on), xperia in inactive mode, and don´t have battery. I´m really disapointed, scared, angry,...
CONCLUSIONS:
If I turn mobile to inactive, each 5 minutes, 1% of battery drain. With 50% and 7:30 hours of inactivity, no batery to my xperia.
So please.
What Can I do? Love this phone is my second android (i´m bored using iphone), but this unnormal draining of my battery, scares me. I can´t complete faith with xperia.
One more thing.
Before goint to sleep I´ve installed Go launcher, and no plugins because this problem happens to me since first day, and want to be secure not was my fault.
Please help me
friscoltu959 said:
I have new experiences. Let´s go...
23:00 - 00:00: Only wifi turn on. Twitter, facebook, playing snes emulator, also fpse psx emulator. My baterry drain 60% to 50%.
00:00: All radios turn off. Very impressed 23:00 to 00:00 because only 10% of battery usage on heavy mobile working. Let´s see what happened when I go to bed.
00:00 - 7:30: With 50% of battery, alarm don´t sound because ALL BATTERY HAVE DISSAPEARED, in other words, 0% of battery. Seven hours after, with all radios off (airplane mode on), xperia in inactive mode, and don´t have battery. I´m really disapointed, scared, angry,...
CONCLUSIONS:
If I turn mobile to inactive, each 5 minutes, 1% of battery drain. With 50% and 7:30 hours of inactivity, no batery to my xperia.
So please.
What Can I do? Love this phone is my second android (i´m bored using iphone), but this unnormal draining of my battery, scares me. I can´t complete faith with xperia.
One more thing.
Before goint to sleep I´ve installed Go launcher, and no plugins because this problem happens to me since first day, and want to be secure not was my fault.
Please help me
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there are several causes to this
It could be an application running wildly in background
Or
Your battery is defective
I recommend you re-installing your firmware and note the applications you use
Avoid task killers and any app that updates itself every 10 minutes or so ( Facebook twitter.. etc ) let them update every couple of hours or manually
The battery in Xperia play is amazing so it's sad what's happening with you
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I solved problem, and really impressed with battery performance.
Have 80% with all day wifi on, playing emulators, and using whatsupp, gmail...
What i do:
Task Manager de Rhythm Software = close apps when turn off screen.
SystemPanel App - Task Manager = cpu usage, close apps
MySettings app
Im using Power control plus, and deleted Extended Control Plus.
My battery now, is better than other smartphones like defy or nexus, which I´ve tried.
Tornlogic said:
Besides, Gingerbread has it's own task killer, so why clutter your system with more unnecessary apps?
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where is this? i dont see?
Settings then applications then manage applications.
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Then you will see 4 tabs on the top. Select "running"
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Then you will see 4 tabs on the top. Select "running"
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Sorry forgot that. Cheers.
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Settings then applications then manage applications.
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no that is different, that is running services not running apps. Samsung has a default task killer on their phones, which is very good and shows actual running apps and allows you to kill them. i used to have it on my galaxy s i miss it.
there is only one app i have found on the market that works in the same way, that is; Active Apps. all other task killers are a load of **** and really do nothing.
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no that is different, that is running services not running apps. Samsung has a default task killer on their phones, which is very good and shows actual running apps and allows you to kill them. i used to have it on my galaxy s i miss it.
there is only one app i have found on the market that works in the same way, that is; Active Apps. all other task killers are a load of **** and really do nothing.
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You mean the task manager with the galaxy s one when you hold the menu button? That is useful but must admit never needed to use it. I prefer to restart the phone.
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matknny said:
You mean the task manager with the galaxy s one when you hold the menu button? That is useful but must admit never needed to use it. I prefer to restart the phone.
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well you dont have to hold down the home button to access it. you download it through samsung apps and can use it like a normal app. dont know about you, but i found it very useful and used it very often. for example; when you quit the web browser, it never really closes. go into samsung task killer and you can see it running and can stop it and close it FULLY from there. again, any app you use the "home button" to exit out off, will remain running in the background. i always used the samsung task killer to end these apps properly.
the only other app, as i've said, that works like this is Active Apps. all other task killers are such of load of ****.
I have gotten as much as 7 hours straight gameplay out of this device !
So battery life is exellent just kill tasks that are un-needed. ( f.e. google maps , media server , etc...)
As for standby mode I can squeeze in 2 days I guess
Still playing to much so kinda hard to confirm
Battery life is excellent for me.
I started yesterday on 100%.
- Took it in the bathroom and watched some youtube while i had my bath (ye ye i know !)
- Played 1-2 hours worth of gaming
- Phone went on standby for another 2-3 hours while i went out, did some shopping and some random texting
- Came home had another 1 hour roughly gaming and web surfing
- Text some more to say i'm going round my mates house to watch the boxing
- Spent 4-5 hours up my mates house, showing him the phone, google earth, streetview, maps, emulators, games, everything
- Came home late at night, left my phone on the floor OFF from charge and woke up this morning with 7% battery power left.
Considering how much i used it, i think that's dam good.
Same battery problem here too. Recieved at 10am. Charged by 1pm, dead at 10pm with little use really. Some downloading, browsing, few texts and 30 secs of phone calls.
Advanced task killer seems to have done nothing. Any tips guys, defective battery maybe?
try active apps.
advance task killer, task killer advance, yada yada yada are all full of ****.
also put a shortcut for "Running Services" on your homescreen. periodly check this to end services like "get games" or "Event management" or "TimeScape" or "Google Maps", etc.
Zub7 said:
try active apps.
advance task killer, task killer advance, yada yada yada are all full of ****.
also put a shortcut for "Running Services" on your homescreen. periodly check this to end services like "get games" or "Event management" or "TimeScape" or "Google Maps", etc.
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Tried that, active apps isn't showing any apps that are using any cpu time at all, just the same stuff advanced task killer shows for using ram, which i continually kill. This is with all signals barring normal signal turned off, i'm getting a 1% drain every 10 mins at the moment.
The battery monitor is showing cell standby, phone idle and display as the main things eating the battery. Will give it until the end of the day then call orange for a new battery as there's obviously something wrong here.
fishbow, I recommended you hard reset, because me happens same thing.
I discovered extended controls was my problem.
In your case, maybe anything.
im new so i cant post on rachs thread...anybody can help me with my battery problem on rach floyo v0.20...only 12 hours..is that normal?..
well I got the same problems with custom ROMs so it seems to be kinda common.
maybe you should try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024867
it seem to be helpfull, I did it and now batterminder app shows me the same (approx. 14hours) but device is on about 24-26 hours. I hope you know what I mean
madmax0511 said:
only 12 hours..is that normal?..
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we can't answer you unless we know how much do you use your phone if you're not exploiting it at all, then it's bad, if you have your wifi turned on all the time (and other battery-draining stuff) then it's really good.
well i use the wifi on my way to work, a little bit at work, lunch break, and maybe an hour or two after work...i think its not that much..
Wipe battery stats in recovery after full charge
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thanks man..il try that
I have tryed this app and the battery drain still the same. My batery is working for about 15h and I'm not using the phone a lot.
52% Display (47m 36s) (with the lowest brightness)
18% Phone idle
11% Cell standby
6% Android system
6% Browser
2% LauncherPro
2% Android OS
2% Fancy Widget
I think that it's a lot of batery on the display for only 47min
fine but that's very rough list...
did you tried dynamic view on processes & services & apps running - how much % of cpu time they consume? you can check details also with
- Spare parts
- System panel
- Astro file manager (Menu - Tools - Process Manager)
and last option is faulty battery.
wipe battery stats.
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mmlogin said:
fine but that's very rough list...
did you tried dynamic view on processes & services & apps running - how much % of cpu time they consume? you can check details also with
- Spare parts
- System panel
- Astro file manager (Menu - Tools - Process Manager)
and last option is faulty battery.
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I'm trying with spare parts but yesterday I wipe my battery stats.
Apps
Dialer
Switfkey
Android System
Astro
Settings
SuperUser
Tuenti
Spare Parts
Facebook
Talk
Messagin
Network Speed
Services
Astro
SwiftKey
Tuenti
Dialer
Android System
Android System
Android System
Android System
Network Speed
Dialer
Android System
Is it normal to have 5 Android System services??
5 x system could represents different services, so would not be afraid of that... more important for you is to see how much % of cpu time are they consuming at different time of day.
maybe apps like battery indicator could be more of help.
mmlogin said:
5 x system could represents different services, so would not be afraid of that... more important for you is to see how much % of cpu time are they consuming at different time of day.
maybe apps like battery indicator could be more of help.
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After wipe the battery from the xRestore the batery is working for longer.
Thanks for your help!
i wiped battery stats yesterday too after reaching 100% battery. And i saw in some place that now i should let phone battery go to 0%.
Strange thing is that since 8:00 my phone is with less than 25%, i have wireless, msn, skype, facebook, linkedin and some other random stuff turned on and atm i have 22& battery life.
Looks like my battery never gonna end today
+1 wipe battery status
proud owner of sexperia X8
I will try this too, since i feel that my battery-up-time is getting worse...