Theory on the EPD clarity - YotaPhone

So today I got a bit of water on the epd and noticed that it was much sharper than the rest of the matte display.
So my theory is, would putting a screen protector on(which is not matte) do the same?

Sounds interesting, if you decided to try it out let us know the result.

Hi guys,
You are right! Since I noticed the issue with the stock protector (when I remove it) I decided to use with yp2 epd with screen protector. It is almost a clear screen with a transparent protector and there's no matte view. Just try it!
If you can't find original protector, you can use normal soft transparent covers by scissoring it. I use it like way

WTF!? I just dropped some water to test this and I couldn't believe how sharp it was... Will definitely try a screen protector. Thanks!

jaboto said:
WTF!? I just dropped some water to test this and I couldn't believe how sharp it was... Will definitely try a screen protector. Thanks!
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some advise for the best:
i use A4 sheet transparent sticker like this
You can print (be aware of setting printscale to 1:1) the attached forcut.pdf file on back face of the sticker and let's cut borders carefully. Then you can apply it to the epd screen. Tips: don't be afraid for the small air bubbles under 1mm diameter. They will dissappear since adhesive of the sticker will spread slowly in the room temperature in a few days. That's the theory :good:
And also don't worry about small fingerprints on the sticker, they also will be gone for the same reason.
See the attached file and images mine yp2

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Which screen protector?

Hello guys
A friend of mine gave me a BW screen protector and when I tried to place it, apparently the screen had some dust or sth on it, and immediately it filled with dust and became unusable :s
Which screen protector would you suggest for the universal? And also, any way to safely and completely remove all dust etc from the screen before placing it?
Sorry for the weird post but I'm afraid I'm gonna start scratching the display with extended use of the stulys :/
Thnx in advance!
I have a Martin Fields screen protector. It's a bugger to apply, but great once it's on. Clean the screen with a spectacle lens cloth before you start and hope you don't get any bubbles.
Yeah, bubbles ruined it last time I tried
Anyone has this on his universal?
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...sories-WriteSHIELD%99+AG~item~WSPDA011-2D.htm
I use it on all my devices (the AG one) and I love it.
It is EASY to apply, you can remove and re-add it, you can move it from one device to another, if it gets dust sticked to the adhesive side you can clean it and I haven't yeat thrown a single one away.
It isn't glossy, so your display won't be "shiny" as without it, but the anti-glare effect is very welcome and its thickness is enough to protect the display from almost anything.
Considering that I haven't yet thrown a single one away, despite messing around a lot with them, I consider them to be very good value.
Nice, I'll order one within the week
ps, is a screen protector really that important? I mean, apart from dust, fingerprints etc (which are the main reasons I'll get it), using for example the stylus for gaming and/or handwriting, does this really compromises the screen (scratches etc)?
i have it
it is a good accessory. and it actually does what it is supposed to do.
i would recomend it all save the screen.
I have a Martin Fields screen protector.
More information: http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/martin_fields_overlay_plus_pda_screen_protector_review_
I have one of these: http://shop.brando.com.hk/ultraclearscreenprotector.php
You can hardly notice that it's there, apart from making the screen a little more shiny, and the slightly poorer stylus response (doesn't bother me, as I don't use the handwriting input) which I believe is inevitable with any screen protector.
Before applying, I found that wiping the screen firmly with a decent lint-free lens cloth (as you'd get from a photography supplier) was sufficient to remove all fingerprints, fluff etc. The trick is to inspect the screen throughly from all angles with a nice bright light source such as a torch or desk lamp with the display off, as well as with the illumination of the backlight on maximum.

How to remove scratches from your Trinity screen

(Not sure if there has been a post about this, apologies if there has.)
Just wanted to let everyone know that I had a fairly big scratched area, right where I write the letters for the Letter Recogniser SIP which was very annoying as it prevented the stylus from gliding smoothly. I heard that I should use Brasso (~£1.30 from your local supermarket) on the screen and it has been VERY successful. It's completely removed the scratch.
Just apply a small amount with a cotton-bud and work into the screen in circlular motion (press harder for deeper scratches). Keep doing this for about 10-15 times or until the scratch disappears.
Hope this helps anyone with screen scratches or anyone wondering about using Brasso but too scared to try.
Careful
I wouldn't recommend it as too much brasso will affect the screen, It's not just an abbrasive but solvent too so you will melt the plastic screen. Over-use will make the screen look warped.
I tried this on my M500 ages ago; now if HTC have improved on the screen then hey.. go ahead but don't say I didn't warn you.
Screen protectors are a much better option. If the screen is already marked a protector would give you a smooth finish again. If thats to expensive an option clear contact sheet will also offer the same results and a roll of that will give you screen covers for the rest of your natural life.
it would not "melt" the screen - how misguided. it is a mild solvent and abrasive and so is unlikely to cause much harm to the screen unless used constantly. screen protectors look awful on a screen - especially when the device is off.
http://www.mobilecomputermag.co.uk/2007100487/my-laptop-screen-is-scratched.html
Off topic a bit. I bought an expensive screen protector from Brando.. it works very well.. but.. for some reason it (the screen protector) got scratched. any easy way to solve it? Brasso is ok? I thought if there can be any method of using .. say car wax to fill in the grooves of the scratch.
I think it got scratched when stuff like sand got attached to my face and when I list to the phone, it stick onto the scren pctr.. and when I write on it.. it got scratched.
Just be happy you had the screen protector on!
I tried to take out the scratches from the plastic cover on my Casio watch with (Crest) toothpaste and it worked FANTASTIC!!!
Thanks a lot to the Guy who suggested this solution for PDA screens.
Damage to screen with brasso
rich1986 said:
it would not "melt" the screen - how misguided. it is a mild solvent and abrasive and so is unlikely to cause much harm to the screen unless used constantly. screen protectors look awful on a screen - especially when the device is off.
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OK it doesn't melt the screen off but it gives it a warped look if you reflect light off it.
No tricks can help
Do not fool yourself. Brasso, toothpaste, Displex all leave marks on the screen. Check it with the device off in sunlight or a strong light source.
Brando protector is expensive.
Cheap and perfect is a new digitizer (USD 8).
I just ordered two more. And whenever I get a scratch and I have time I replace it.
hmmm... Brando's protector is selling for 9-10 dollars - you can easily find cheaper alternatives.
I guess the time and hassles (and of course the warranty alone) of replacing the actual digitizer don't really worth the few bucks saved.

Screen Protector - A Must?

How many of you are using a screen protector?
I just can't install this damn thing without making bubbles between the screen
and the screen protector.
Tried putting invisible shield today which covers the entire device. it came with
some spray to avoid dust but i'm still not happy with it. on the back it's ok, but
the front shield was so ugly and unclear that made me to remove it and now
i'm with no front protector at all.
The screen is more clear now but i'm afraid to scratch it.
Does anyone know how to install the screen protector in a way which it will be
totally unnoticeable?
I haven't ever used one, I find they make the screen less responsive. I do have a few scratches on my screen though but they are invisible when the screen is backlit...
GoldCoin said:
How many of you are using a screen protector?
I just can't install this damn thing without making bubbles between the screen
and the screen protector.
Tried putting invisible shield today which covers the entire device. it came with
some spray to avoid dust but i'm still not happy with it. on the back it's ok, but
the front shield was so ugly and unclear that made me to remove it and now
i'm with no front protector at all.
The screen is more clear now but i'm afraid to scratch it.
Does anyone know how to install the screen protector in a way which it will be
totally unnoticeable?
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Your screen protector is a must as scratches can appear on your screen very easily without it.
As for the bubbles I've managed to get mine on with only a couple of bubbles around the speaker & 3G camera. Doesn't bother me to much any more
Try this thread as it has a number of recommendations on which is the best screen protector to use
Yes, the screen protector is a must!
Especially for a device with such a huge display. I have read here about cracked displays and I am sure that screen protectors give added resistance against cracking (besides their primary function against scratches).
It takes PATIENCE to apply one though. I wasted 2 before i managed to put one flawlessly (well almost)
Some of the protectors can be washed and re-applied.
Do you really think it has some impact on the way the screen respond ? Does the screen protector makes the bends more noticeable when you press on the center of the screen ?
I've used my Universal for over 3 years with no scrren protector, and there is a mark in the top right where the X icon is but no other issues. However the Universal is a clam shell design so the scrren is protected when it's in my pocket. I don't think I'd want to use the HD without one.
I couldn't fit the screen protector that came with the HD properly because it has to be done with microscopic precision. However I bought 6 protecoter for £3 on Ebay from Ecell and am very happy. They're much easier to fit because they're a fraction smaller, plus you can use a couple to practice with and still have spares left over.
I use the protector from day one and I can't imagine not using it. It's just too much of a risk, and by watching my used protectors, how they're covered with scratches, some of them quite big and quite deep. I would not want to have this permanently on my screen.
I have bought some additional protectors as well. I predict I will be changing protectors every 3 or 4 months.
I have no idea why everyone seems to have so much problems with applying them. It was very easy for me to apply both the stock protector and the Brando protector. Just clean the front screen as thoroughly as possible with a piece of cloth that does not leave those small fabric hairs. I used a cleaning cloth for glasses, and put a few drops of window cleaning fluid as well to remove eventual grease.
After that it was piece of cake. Started at the top and just rolled down the protector in one smooth move. Had 1 bubble, which I simply pushed to the edge of protector until it was gone.
I reccomend you do all of this in a dust-free environment. Bathroom is a good place, for example. Let the dust settle for like 20 minutes before going in. Avoid rooms which have carpets and such stuff.
I used mine for the first month+ without the screen protector and sustained no scratches. I have one on now simply because one day I was putting stuff away, saw the screen protector, put it to my HD and it went on perfectly without trying, so I decided to keep it on.
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How.....unnoticeable?
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GoldCoin,
Have you tried buying on from a phone shop and asking them to install?
I installed mine as soon as I removed the "do not sit down with the HD in your pocket warning" Best way to ensure that the screen is clean. Took a couple of attemps to get it started but a little effort and I got it. Left with a small bubble round the ear piece and one top right, but that looks like a slight defect in the protector as the alignment looks almost perfect.
When installing, I peeled back a portion of the protector and aligned it best I could - incidentally, I placed the HD back in the foam that it came in to hold it firm. Without peeling any more off I try to gauge the alignment. If I think is good to go, I slowly peel the backing whilst rubbing my finger back and forth across the area just stuck down.
Here's another suggestion. PSP Screen Protector installation
Good Luck,
Yes, it's a must!
I use a screenprotector and it has lot's of scratches on it, which otherwise would be on the screen itself
Absolutely!
I Use clear-coat and are very satisfied (had it on my diamond as well and have it on my psp)
Once you get a mark on the display u will regret going without.
Thank you all for sharing your opinions. already ordered a Brando protector + 3 extra just in case i will mess things up again.
Following Rozenthal advice i think i'll apply it in the bathroom this time and not in my dusty workroom.
Bubbles are not problem. After installing screen protector just take you credit card. You can remove all bubbles with credit card.
Just adding my two pennies worth. I haven't ever used a screen protector on any of my previous phones. However Touch HD is a little bit special (as we know) so I invested. The one that came with was utter....well it was naff. I bought an invisible shield but some areas didn't dry and adhese correctly....so I opted for Exim...now this was awesome....a few attempts later and I have it installed with no bubbles at all using a credit card to apply.
(Top Tip: use selotape to remove any unwanted dirt from the screen before installing....the static tends to draw dust to it straight out of the packet....helped me anyway!)
GoldCoin said:
Thank you all for sharing your opinions. already ordered a Brando protector + 3 extra just in case i will mess things up again.
Following Rozenthal advice i think i'll apply it in the bathroom this time and not in my dusty workroom.
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For what it's worth, it wouldn't hurt to use a can of dust remover or compressed air to spray the area before applying. Worked for me. Just a thought.
Does the normal screen protector that comes in the box makes the screen feels like bending when u press on it ? in the center specifically ? and makes you need to press harder when u tap ?
Invisible shield on mine and wouldn't be without a screen protector on any of my devices with my way of using them and pocketing them they tend to get scratched but loving the invisible shield. Should be installed at the factory imo
Jezwick said:
... I find they make the screen less responsive....
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I've always used one, XDA mini, Kaiser and now the THD.
In all cases I've found the sensitivity is affected but to varying degrees.
In each case I've used tweaking tools to change the sensitivity back to acceptable levels.
But im only concerned to know. Does makes the screen feels like bending when u press on it ? I already know that all resistive screens do what i am talking about but does it increase when using a protector ?
Xeon said:
But im only concerned to know. Does makes the screen feels like bending when u press on it ? I already know that all resistive screens do what i am talking about but does it increase when using a protector ?
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I haven't experienced this with the Exim protector I am using. In fact...it's as though there is nothing there....even when swiping!

Putting on InvisibleSHIELD...

So, I was putting on my InvisibleSHIELD full body armor earlier... but no matter what I did there are still quite a few small bubbles under the screen protector. The sides and the back are fine except for the piece between the headset port and the proximity sensor where it leaves with a bit of space which won't fit perfectly around the corner.
Will the bubbles on the front screen gone after a while? What should I do with that piece next to the proximity sensor?
Thanks!
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So, I was putting on my InvisibleSHIELD full body armor earlier... but no matter what I did there are still quite a few small bubbles under the screen protector. The sides and the back are fine except for the piece between the headset port and the proximity sensor where it leaves with a bit of space which won't fit perfectly around the corner.
Will the bubbles on the front screen gone after a while? What should I do with that piece next to the proximity sensor?
Thanks!
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Did you remove the pre installed Screen Protector?, which imo does a very good job and is the first phone I have owned installed from the factory.
Give it 2 days. All the microbubbles will go away.
I put this on my 17" laptop. It was next to impossible to remove them, but after several days they all went away.
Im still waiting do install mine, the 12hours dry time just makes it a little hard.
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Did you remove the pre installed Screen Protector?, which imo does a very good job and is the first phone I have owned installed from the factory.
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Its hard to call it screen protector. I already have few scratches with using the pouch. So from me i can only give it a big D.
yoshik777 said:
Im still waiting do install mine, the 12hours dry time just makes it a little hard.
Its hard to call it screen protector. I already have few scratches with using the pouch. So from me i can only give it a big D.
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Well it's doing it's job then as the screen protector, you will hopefully always be able to take off the factory installed protector and find a pristine screen underneath.
I hate fitting screen protectors myself, they always looks a mess so I am glad that this phone came with one factory fitted.
My factory fitted screen protecting film was set quite badly, it had little wrinkle and couple big air bubbles so I took it away and set the one that came with the phone, its been working good except lately it has start going off from my screen corner for no reason? it just won't stick anymore.
2 3 days and bubbles will be all gone worked on mine..... invisibleshield works really well
If you end up with any larger bubbles or some that don't seem to go away (which most all of them should disappear on their own) you can get yourself a very fine needle and poke as small a hole in the bubble as possible and use a damp cloth to push out the air.
Put one on my old iphone and as soon as i did my dog took to the texture and started chewing it I ended up with a "flap" if you will and even that smoothed out nicely over time. Great product, although the smaller pieces will eventually start peeling off at the edges. Mine is in the mail from Zagg for my new X10. Being very careful with it until then.
Double screen protection
When you opened the box the screen has a film used for shipping. Some have said that this film was bubbled. Than under that film is real screen protector that is already attached to the phone. A second screen protector is in the box and is an extra.
To be clear there are three films to protect the screen.
1) shipping film covering the screen and a screen protector that is attached underneath this to the screen itself. (often bubbled) (easy to remove)
2) the actual screen protector that is already attached to the screen and is under the shipping film. (look very closely and you can see the edge) (will not come off easily)
3) spare screen protector to be used at a later time.
Sounds to me like you boys put a screen protector on top of a screen protector
There was already a real screen protector? like i thought i saw on my htc touch? which was hard to pull of but i did it, after that the phone didn't react to touching anymore, oops! it was the layer of the screen responsible for receiving pressure from touching.. i hope it isnt the same with this phone.. that would really suck
onigiri said:
There was already a real screen protector? like i thought i saw on my htc touch? which was hard to pull of but i did it, after that the phone didn't react to touching anymore, oops! it was the layer of the screen responsible for receiving pressure from touching.. i hope it isnt the same with this phone.. that would really suck
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well the touch had a resistive type screen the x10 has a capacitive type.
so peelin of the pre applied on the x10 makes no diff.
but remember the pre applied film is less a screen protector and more a shatter proof sheet which helps to keep the piece of glass together in case the screen breaks..
ok, thanks for the information, now i know it wont kill my phone to take it off, which im not going to do, also then i know i dont have to be worried to death about scratching my screen
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so I really cant tell here if you guys have removed the factory installed protector prior to placing the Zagg sheild on or not.
If yes, how the heck did you get it off?? And if no, did it seem to affect the responsiveness of the screen?
I have my protector and I just want to make sure whether or not I should or should not remove the film (protector or not it is frigin on there......tight).
I just peeled of the preinstalled screen protector with my fingernails (i probably have to cut them ). It took me about 30 secs and was quite easy to do. I wouldn't recommend anything sharper than your fingernails. Using your own body is the easiest way, because you have full control of your finger and get a "feedback" on how to remove the screen protector.
My InvisibleSHIELD is drying since 18 hours and I'm gonna wait till it dried 24 hours. I'll tell you in a few hours if there are any differences between a XPERIA with a preinstalled screen protector and a XPERIA without a preinstalled screen protector but an InvisibleSHIELD.
Have a nice day
well I just went ahead and put the screen on right over the preinstalled one, and I must say that I got it on there about as precisely as is possible. No bubbles and it looks great! Also no change in screen responsiveness as im using right now with swype keyboard. Works perfect.
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Ok, I couldn't wait to use my phone again, so I powered it on and in case of responsiveness there aren't any changes with the preapplied one removed and the InvisibleSHIELD installed. I'm even more amazed by the white one now, because it now has some kind of grip on its backside. Before installing the shield it was definitively too slippery.

S8 Active Screen Defect?

Just got one this weekend. I got a decent glass screen protector. I applied it and noticed lines under the protector form and not go away. It looks as if there is moisture or grease...or maybe adhesive from the dust removal sticker I used on the screen prior to putting the glass on. Nothing changed in 24 hours, so I took it off and the line marks were ghosted onto the underside of the glass protector. And I had to scrub remnants of the lines off the screen itself. I used the second of 2 glass protectors after really cleaning and drying. Same thing.
I took the protector off and cleaned the screen. Upon inspecting, I find that holding the phone on a certain angle, there are ripple lines on the screen. It's like the screen isn't flat (that may be the problem of the lines under the protector?) It's like the screen is wavy..but symmetrical wavy. I've looked at a co workers Note 8 and I dont see this wave pattern on the screen.
Is anyone noticing this or familiar? I am attaching 2 photos. One showing what happens with the glass protector. Then another with the glass off. I had to angle the phone just right. You can see the ripple if you look at the reflection of the white window frame in the photo.
Thoughts?
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Just got one this weekend. I got a decent glass screen protector. I applied it and noticed lines under the protector form and not go away. It looks as if there is moisture or grease...or maybe adhesive from the dust removal sticker I used on the screen prior to putting the glass on. Nothing changed in 24 hours, so I took it off and the line marks were ghosted onto the underside of the glass protector. And I had to scrub remnants of the lines off the screen itself. I used the second of 2 glass protectors after really cleaning and drying. Same thing.
I took the protector off and cleaned the screen. Upon inspecting, I find that holding the phone on a certain angle, there are ripple lines on the screen. It's like the screen isn't flat (that may be the problem of the lines under the protector?) It's like the screen is wavy..but symmetrical wavy. I've looked at a co workers Note 8 and I dont see this wave pattern on the screen.
Is anyone noticing this or familiar? I am attaching 2 photos. One showing what happens with the glass protector. Then another with the glass off. I had to angle the phone just right. You can see the ripple if you look at the reflection of the white window frame in the photo.
Thoughts?
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My screen has similar waves on it when looking at an angle. I think that's just a side effect of the gorilla glass. I haven't used a screen protector on it though, can't help you there...
hotbyz168 said:
My screen has similar waves on it when looking at an angle. I think that's just a side effect of the gorilla glass. I haven't used a screen protector on it though, can't help you there...
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Ohh boy. You better put something on it. This screen is SO susceptible to scratches, its pathetic. I used the phone for 2 days before my first glass protector came and I already had 3 small scratches on the screen. I had the phone in a felt lined pouch the whole time....never was dropped or used by anyone else but me.
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Ohh boy. You better put something on it. This screen is SO susceptible to scratches, its pathetic. I used the phone for 2 days before my first glass protector came and I already had 3 small scratches on the screen. I had the phone in a felt lined pouch the whole time....never was dropped or used by anyone else but me.
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Yeah there's plenty of those marks on it, but only noticeable when looking with the screen off. While the screen is on, it's not noticeable. My main concern is fractures, in that sense, it's sturdy.

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